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| fenn | i think it's odd that he suggests banning terminator seeds: http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/miller20090803/ | 00:12 |
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| fenn | i mean most of the time you don't want GE seeds to spread uncontrolled | 00:12 |
| genehacker | huh? | 00:13 |
| genehacker | heh | 00:14 |
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| fenn | mmm lego starcraft http://www.pcworld.com/article/163742/9_lego_games_youll_never_see.html | 01:24 |
| genehacker | how is the lego project going? | 01:41 |
| fenn | interesting: http://www.brickarms.com/Toys/Weapons.aspx | 01:42 |
| genehacker | have you considered doing fischertechnik? | 01:42 |
| fenn | wtf is that | 01:42 |
| genehacker | yup | 01:42 |
| fenn | i have my hands full enough with regular technic | 01:42 |
| genehacker | fischertechnic is a build system toy that is also sold as an industrial prototyping solution | 01:44 |
| fenn | modeling flexible elements is difficult | 01:44 |
| fenn | there are a zillion and one construction toy systems | 01:44 |
| genehacker | part interfacing is via dovetail slots | 01:45 |
| fenn | i personally don't care to do them all | 01:45 |
| genehacker | ok | 01:45 |
| genehacker | lego might be best | 01:45 |
| genehacker | fischertechnik is a bit complex | 01:45 |
| fenn | why do you think it's complex? | 01:45 |
| fenn | besides the unwieldy name | 01:45 |
| genehacker | because I am not skilled in it's arts | 01:45 |
| genehacker | http://www.robotmatrix.org/images/Fischertechnik-Super-Cranes-Model-03.gif | 01:47 |
| genehacker | basic part interface | 01:47 |
| genehacker | http://www.robotmatrix.org/images/Fischertechnik-Super-Cranes-Model-03.gif | 01:47 |
| genehacker | error | 01:47 |
| genehacker | http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/yhst-57190479284260/Fischertechnik1.jpg | 01:48 |
| fenn | i would do 80/20 framing way before i ever considered modeling fischertechnik | 01:50 |
| genehacker | yeah | 01:50 |
| fenn | apparently zombie lego apocalypse is all the rage on the net these days | 01:51 |
| fenn | i found this amusing at least http://www.flickr.com/photos/wintermute2600/2801481805/ | 01:53 |
| genehacker | wintermute... | 02:16 |
| genehacker | we can make the zombie apocalypse happen to the security community | 02:17 |
| genehacker | though I don't | 02:19 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: fenn * r 676a13ec1502 / (doc/readme readme): swap symlink and actual file; apparently github will display a file named "readme" automatically but not if it is a symlink | 02:33 |
| fenn | kanzure plz update github | 02:35 |
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| CIA-38 | skdb: fenn * r 903958720a2c /packages/lego/interfaces.py: fix minor repr bug | 02:48 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: fenn * r b0002657a378 /core/part.py: options now takes a list of parts to evaluate for suitability (but, suitable for what process?) | 02:48 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: fenn * r a8195e7e13c1 / (doc/readme pymates/pymates.py pymates/rapid-test.py readme): oops. merge | 02:48 |
| kanzure | http://automenta.com/netention | 04:50 |
| * ybit doesn't sleep on this stuff | 06:47 | |
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| ybit | hi kardan| | 07:50 |
| kardan| | hey ybit! | 07:50 |
| ybit | :) kardan|: what's on the agenda today? | 07:52 |
| kardan| | next step: get some sleep | 07:53 |
| kardan| | but depends .. why you asking? got some work to do? | 07:54 |
| * ybit was visiting with the sickly grandfather | 08:01 | |
| ybit | work to do? always | 08:01 |
| ybit | ====================================================================== | 08:04 |
| ybit | http://heybryan.org/books/labmusic not found | 08:04 |
| ybit | odd place for music to be located :) | 08:04 |
| ybit | there she blows, labmusic2 | 08:06 |
| kanzure | it was renamed because fenn was running a wget -m of the hdd but didn't want labmusic | 09:12 |
| * ybit isn't sure of the best way to mirror your content | 09:13 | |
| ybit | rsync or wget --mirror, and should i send you a hard drive so you can do it yourself, or should i grab at certain times of the day | 09:14 |
| ybit | maybe i can ping the server, and if it's a low ping (whatever that is determined to be), that's how the computer will know to start retrieving data | 09:16 |
| kanzure | sending me a hard drive would be ideal at this point | 09:16 |
| ybit | s/i/my computer | 09:16 |
| ybit | 2tb? | 09:16 |
| kanzure | 1tb would be sufficient | 09:16 |
| ybit | figure that could hold heybryan and adl | 09:17 |
| kanzure | adl doesn't have anything unique that isn't on heybryan | 09:17 |
| ybit | does heybryan use a static ip? | 09:18 |
| kanzure | no | 09:19 |
| kanzure | not any more | 09:19 |
| ybit | http://ybit.ath.cx/ | 09:28 |
| ybit | well that's convenient | 09:28 |
| ybit | and http://heath.im get you here in about 8 hours | 09:31 |
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| kanzure | ybit: speaking of domain names, spacehab.org is taken, however spacefab.org remains open. | 10:04 |
| ybit | speaking of, i've added a docs directory which has books and and papers | 10:15 |
| ybit | ybit.ath.ca/docs | 10:15 |
| ybit | ybit.ath.cx/docs | 10:15 |
| ybit | ** | 10:15 |
| ybit | haven't quite got around to moving everything there yet | 10:16 |
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| ybit | oh wtf | 10:19 |
| ybit | dammit | 10:20 |
| ybit | i just deleted all my books -_- | 10:20 |
| ybit | here was the list | 10:23 |
| ybit | /home/heath/documents/McGraw-Hill\ -\ PIC\ Microcontroller\ Project\ Book\ by\ John\ Lovi* books/ | 10:23 |
| ybit | er | 10:23 |
| ybit | /home/heath/documents/McGraw-Hill\ -\ PIC\ Microcontroller\ Project\ Book\ by\ John\ Lovi* books/ | 10:23 |
| ybit | argh | 10:23 |
| ybit | /home/heath/documents/McGraw-Hill\ -\ PIC\ Microcontroller\ Project\ Book\ by\ John\ Lovi* books/ | 10:24 |
| ybit | http://dpaste.com/77302/ | 10:24 |
| ybit | there | 10:24 |
| ybit | - /Biology\ -\* books/ | 10:24 |
| ybit | phew, i didn't delete them | 10:31 |
| ybit | did anyone ever see this? http://ybit.ath.cx/videos/helio%20robot%20commercial.flv | 10:36 |
| kanzure | you deleted all of them? | 11:06 |
| kanzure | why is ybit.ath.cx redirecting to localhost? | 11:06 |
| kanzure | ok fixed | 11:07 |
| kanzure | Does anyone have a good explanation for how adderall works? Since it's proprietary tech, the only explanation I have ever found is "it is a stimulant", which is saying absolutely nothing. | 11:44 |
| kanzure | does anyone have a clip of magneto lifting the golden gate bridge? | 11:57 |
| drazak | man | 12:18 |
| drazak | you guys can make anything boring | 12:18 |
| drazak | kanzure: adderall downregulates inhibitors of MAO's | 12:22 |
| kanzure | according to who? | 12:33 |
| kanzure | wikipedia says "Amphetamines are believed to exert their effects by binding to the monoamine transporters and increasing extracellular levels of the biogenic amines dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin." but there's no citation | 12:34 |
| kanzure | "It is hypothesized that D-amphetamine acts primarily on the dopaminergic (DA) systems, while L-amphetamine is comparatively norepinephrinergic (NE)." but it's not cited as to who hypothesizes this | 12:34 |
| drazak | well then you should put a citation needed sign into the article | 12:38 |
| kanzure | if adderall really works like that, then iproniazid and phenelzine would be used instead of adderall | 12:40 |
| kanzure | phenelzine is Nardil | 12:40 |
| kanzure | or tranylcypromine (Parnate) | 12:40 |
| drazak | thosea are both MAOI's? | 13:08 |
| drazak | it also upregulates the release of monoamines | 13:09 |
| fenn | "the new helio Ocean: don't call it a phone" well wtf is it then? | 13:51 |
| fenn | don't we have a name for a jeejah yet? | 13:51 |
| fenn | "YAML is more of a socket wrench sort of tool, it makes a very bad hammer, and it really isn't a screw driver. I say socket wrench since you can get 'adapters' (aka tags) to fit the sort of data you need." | 13:58 |
| ybit | fenn: heh, it was the robots i liked most. i wanted to build something like them since i was wee little man | 15:08 |
| ybit | was +a | 15:08 |
| * ybit starts learning to weld tomorrow | 15:14 | |
| * ybit needs a project to work on | 15:14 | |
| fenn | what sort of welding? | 15:14 |
| ybit | maybe a bicycle... | 15:14 |
| ybit | dunno | 15:14 |
| fenn | don't weld on galvanized | 15:14 |
| * ybit knows nothing about it aside from the fact that it's welder and that welders melt metal together | 15:15 | |
| ybit | plan on doing some research before i go though | 15:15 |
| ybit | noted, no galvenized metal | 15:16 |
| ybit | my friend wants me to work for him at some chip manufacturing facility | 15:17 |
| ybit | that sounds a lot more fun than k-mart electronics guy | 15:17 |
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| fenn | possibly | 15:19 |
| kanzure | does TRN overstimulation lead to inhibition of thalmocortical projection neurons? and if so, does this result look the same as a lesion of the TRN? | 15:19 |
| kanzure | TRN = thalamic reticular nucleus | 15:19 |
| ybit | Many different energy sources can be used for welding, including a gas flame, an electric arc, a laser, an electron beam, friction, and ultrasound. | 15:19 |
| kanzure | ultrasound? how does that work? | 15:19 |
| fenn | and thermite! | 15:19 |
| fenn | i larnt me that on the telly | 15:19 |
| ybit | didn't realize welding was such an ambiguous term | 15:19 |
| fenn | ultrasonic welding is usually for plastics | 15:20 |
| ybit | ah | 15:20 |
| kanzure | does it cause plastic deformation, or melting, or what? | 15:20 |
| ybit | i was wondering, because i hadn't seen a gas flame used on plastics | 15:20 |
| fenn | say you have a snap fit blobject. the contact area between the two pieces rubs together if you flex the pieces | 15:20 |
| fenn | ultrasound just does this a zillion times a second and that melts the contact area | 15:20 |
| fenn | ybit: usually plastic welding is done with this thing sorta like a cross between a glue gun and a hot air gun | 15:21 |
| ybit | Heat guns can be used to dry and strip paint, apply heat shrink tubing, apply shrink film, dry out damp wood, bend and weld plastic, soften adhesives, heat shrink wrap on packaging, and thaw frozen pipes. | 15:21 |
| * ybit has a heat gun, huh | 15:21 | |
| fenn | most plastics dont weld very well | 15:22 |
| * ybit should really pay attention to wiki articles on items he has access to | 15:22 | |
| kanzure | there's this study that says that TRN synapses projecting on to the anterior and mediodorsal thalamic nuclei cause disinhibition (or, excitation) of thalamic relay neurons (which are projecting to the the prefrontal cortices); but in another study, TRN has inhibitory activity, not disinhibitory activity | 15:23 |
| * kanzure wonders which one to believe | 15:23 | |
| fenn | both! | 15:23 |
| kanzure | but then it doesn't make sense. it's either GABAergic or not. | 15:24 |
| fenn | you should take a class on neuranatomy (or just show up or something) | 15:24 |
| kanzure | thanks for the help | 15:24 |
| fenn | seriously, then you could ask someone and they'll scratch their head and say nobody knows | 15:24 |
| fenn | i mean a professor or something | 15:25 |
| fenn | that's the supposed reason to pay megacents right? | 15:25 |
| kanzure | no, the reason to pay megacents has something to do with getting a job or something | 15:26 |
| * kanzure doesn't pretend to understand it any more | 15:26 | |
| ybit | probably not a good idea to make a bike from car parts | 15:28 |
| ybit | ideally it should be light | 15:28 |
| ybit | 15:23 * kanzure doesn't pretend to understand it any more | 15:29 |
| ybit | and your college education is complete | 15:29 |
| ybit | maybe timschmidt__'s machine requires welding, and i'll have a project to work on | 15:35 |
| ybit | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arc_welding | 16:21 |
| ybit | that's what i'll be doing | 16:21 |
| ybit | there's about 3 at the junkyard | 16:21 |
| ybit | more specific: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shielded_metal_arc_welding is definitely there, not sure what else | 16:33 |
| fenn | who do you know at the junkyard? | 16:41 |
| ybit | the owner, my grandfater, the one that is sick in the room next to me | 16:46 |
| ybit | and the junkyard beside is my great uncle | 16:46 |
| fenn | well that's convenient | 16:47 |
| fenn | my grandparents owned condo's and a cattle ranch | 16:47 |
| fenn | on opposite sides of the country | 16:47 |
| ybit | http://maps.google.com/maps?cbp=12,352.72,,0,11.06&cbll=34.831786,-87.619148&ll=34.831786,-87.619148&layer=c | 16:52 |
| ybit | that's a pic of my grandfather's, the uncle's is on the right down the street | 16:52 |
| ybit | it's currently closed since he's sick | 16:52 |
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| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/protocol-cache.zip <- all protocols on protocol-online.org | 17:31 |
| kanzure | elinks doesn't seem to like 8 MB HTML files | 17:32 |
| fenn | that's smaller than i expected | 17:35 |
| fenn | 8MB for all of them? | 17:35 |
| fenn | gee no wonder i had such a hard time figuring this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonical_name#Terminology_of_CNAME_vs_.22canonical_name.22 | 17:37 |
| fenn | CNAME should have been called ALIAS | 17:37 |
| kanzure | yes 8 MB for all of them cat'd together | 17:38 |
| fenn | but it's 30MB unzipped | 17:38 |
| kanzure | hm | 17:38 |
| kanzure | huh there's a transformation by heat shock protocol | 17:46 |
| fenn | yeah heat shock activates dna repair mechanisms that aren't normally used | 17:47 |
| kanzure | it doesn't count if the protocol requires calcium chloride | 17:50 |
| kanzure | (because then it's a calcium chloride protocol) | 17:50 |
| kanzure | protocols should be named after the most ridiculously expensive component that they require | 17:50 |
| fenn | what if heat shock improves cacl2 protocol? | 17:50 |
| kanzure | then call it heat-shock-calc2 | 17:50 |
| kanzure | cacl2 | 17:50 |
| fenn | driveway ice melter is expensive? | 17:50 |
| kanzure | in texas | 17:51 |
| fenn | openkollab: "Our goal is to catalyze strategic confluence among related projects, allowing more of them to survive to maturity." | 17:57 |
| fenn | Help related projects find each other | 17:57 |
| fenn | Give distributed teams an easy way to plan and host a series of virtual and physical meetings to sustain their project | 17:57 |
| fenn | Provide access to a broader community of collaboraters and facilitators that can help your team improve its process | 17:57 |
| kanzure | ok updated: http://adl.serveftp.org/protocol-cache.tar.gz | 18:00 |
| kanzure | (58 MB) | 18:00 |
| kanzure | includes PDFs and HTML files of any sites that resolved correctly, plus all cached pages | 18:00 |
| kanzure | the previous one included only cached pages (thus just HTML) | 18:00 |
| fenn | huh. "parameterized lego bricks" http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:591 | 18:00 |
| kanzure | "required tools" list seems new | 18:01 |
| kanzure | also looks like it sucks | 18:01 |
| kanzure | http://www.thingiverse.com/tool:36 | 18:01 |
| kanzure | er why is a tool different from a thing | 18:01 |
| kanzure | how can an stl file be parametric? | 18:02 |
| genehacker_light | it can? | 18:02 |
| kanzure | not to my knowledge | 18:02 |
| genehacker_light | they aren't | 18:03 |
| genehacker_light | people write scripts | 18:03 |
| genehacker_light | for making parametric objects | 18:03 |
| genehacker_light | http://blog.thingiverse.com/2009/07/01/more-on-parametrics/ | 18:04 |
| fenn | that's not what the lego bricks are doing | 18:05 |
| fenn | lego bricks are doing CSG and then meshing/skeining | 18:05 |
| fenn | oh joy, .aoi is binary data | 18:06 |
| genehacker_light | dang it can't find their parametric object collection | 18:06 |
| genehacker_light | oh joy someone's posted a new printable bearing | 18:08 |
| QuantumG | I did CSG with trimeshes once.. it was challenging | 18:08 |
| fenn | know anything about converting .stl back to primitives like cylinder, sphere | 18:09 |
| QuantumG | nope | 18:10 |
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| kanzure | fenn: campbell should have a labbie do stl->CSG. that's totally "automated design"-related | 18:35 |
| fenn | it's a hard problem, i really doubt anyone he could get would be able to do it | 18:38 |
| fenn | there's probably stuff out there already though, just needs to be found | 18:38 |
| fenn | some theory about mesh collision detectionhttp://qxx.planetquake.gamespy.com/bsp/ | 18:44 |
| kanzure | I thought the hard part was small open spaces | 18:44 |
| fenn | seems to be more about 2d level editing actually, now that i read the whole thing | 18:45 |
| * fenn fails miserably at searching for a mesh->csg algorithm | 18:46 | |
| kanzure | http://cadcam.me.ccu.edu.tw/english/paper/journal/2003_01.pdf surface reconstruction | 18:48 |
| kanzure | http://cvcweb.ices.utexas.edu/ccv/papers/1996/conference/sharp.pdf | 18:49 |
| kanzure | there you go | 18:49 |
| QuantumG | I think he's talking about the reverse csg problem | 18:50 |
| QuantumG | given a bounding volume, find the minimum sequence of boolean operations from platonic primitives that can construct it. | 18:51 |
| kanzure | that's right | 18:51 |
| QuantumG | good luck with that. | 18:51 |
| QuantumG | might as well GA it | 18:52 |
| kanzure | it's easy to do if you're allowed to use as many guesses | 18:52 |
| kanzure | right | 18:52 |
| kanzure | "Automatic reconstruction of 3D CAD models from digital scans" | 18:52 |
| CIA-38 | brain: kanzure master * r7b887a2 / human_brain.yaml : i forget - http://bit.ly/K4GIX | 19:26 |
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| fenn | hum i always just thought finns were all crazy http://lifeboat.com/images/world_of_r_and_d_2005.jpg | 20:12 |
| kanzure | wonder how that happened | 20:17 |
| genehacker | what just happened? | 20:22 |
| kanzure | finland's ridiculously high number of engineers per GDP | 20:23 |
| fenn | it's not even that high really, 0.7% | 20:25 |
| fenn | they're obviously doing something right though | 20:26 |
| genehacker | ok | 20:28 |
| kanzure | maybe it's their ridiculously awesomely unprunouncable names | 20:28 |
| genehacker | why do you say that | 20:28 |
| kanzure | unpronouncable | 20:28 |
| kanzure | unspellable too :/ | 20:28 |
| kanzure | because I have a hard time reading the names of finnish authors in papers | 20:29 |
| kanzure | damn you university of edinburgh! | 20:29 |
| genehacker | you just need to install a finnish language pack to your language associated regions | 20:30 |
| fenn | http://www.changethethought.com/evolution-gif/ | 20:43 |
| genehacker | nicely done | 20:49 |
| genehacker | still makes people think evolution is like pokemon | 20:49 |
| genehacker | transition from bacteria to fish was rather fast if you ask me | 20:50 |
| genehacker | the fact that it loops makes the whole thing rather depressing | 20:50 |
| genehacker | huh every thingiverse thing has a QR code | 20:52 |
| genehacker | hehehehehe | 20:52 |
| genehacker | can american phones read QR codes yet? | 20:53 |
| genehacker | oh I got an idea | 20:53 |
| genehacker | put the QR code on the object | 20:53 |
| fenn | nothing special about this aerial drone except that it's so easy to do this sort of thing now http://www.youtube.com/v/RELqx_fsjao& | 21:00 |
| fenn | that chopper is actually way bigger than it needs to be | 21:06 |
| genehacker | fenn the big fuss in aerial drones these days is using them to make 3d models of cityscapes | 21:19 |
| genehacker | that are updated EVERYDAY | 21:20 |
| genehacker | bigger than it needs to be, but then again it's a quadcopter probably designed for carrying different payloads | 21:21 |
| genehacker | cities are a 3d environment | 21:23 |
| ybit | http://softwear.cc/ :: it's worth keeping an eye on this | 21:24 |
| ybit | right now, it's just an intro to electronics, it's missing 'examples' sadly | 21:24 |
| fenn | wtf "All TWIW articles are written in the first person, but not directly authored by the subjects, and we’re not allowed to see them before they’re published." | 21:26 |
| fenn | extreme misattribution | 21:27 |
| genehacker | is heekscad anygood? | 21:28 |
| fenn | "One of my favorite programs that we didn't make is Rescue Time. It runs in the corner of my computer and tracks how much time I spend on different things." | 21:30 |
| fenn | genehacker: it's the best open source cad program, but that isn't saying much | 21:30 |
| genehacker | runs on linux? | 21:30 |
| fenn | of course | 21:30 |
| kanzure | fenn: any suggestions on how to make two vectors point at each other? given OCC | 21:30 |
| fenn | kanzure: vectors don't have a location in space | 21:31 |
| genehacker | vector connecting two points? | 21:31 |
| kanzure | they do if the vector is pointing from an origin | 21:31 |
| kanzure | vectors point | 21:31 |
| fenn | perhaps you mean 'ray' | 21:31 |
| genehacker | vectors pointing at each other from 2 points in space | 21:31 |
| kanzure | no | 21:31 |
| genehacker | that's easy | 21:31 |
| kanzure | is it? | 21:31 |
| fenn | kanzure: anyway, use my point_at code | 21:31 |
| genehacker | yeah | 21:32 |
| fenn | or whatever it was called | 21:32 |
| kanzure | point_shape | 21:32 |
| genehacker | make vector from point to point | 21:32 |
| ybit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nInbHSFFG5k | 21:32 |
| fenn | or was it called orient_shape? balh | 21:32 |
| genehacker | make it a unit vector | 21:32 |
| ybit | linked from http://geekmyride.org/wiki/index.php/Trent's_Magna | 21:32 |
| ybit | the controller in the vid is based on arduino | 21:32 |
| kanzure | btw, while I'm thinking about it | 21:32 |
| kanzure | spacehabs.org and spacefab.org is available for grabbing :p | 21:32 |
| ybit | more links from geekmyride.org | 21:33 |
| * ybit is too tired to grab them right now | 21:33 | |
| kanzure | I was figuring 'spacefab' is a suitable play on 'spacehab' | 21:33 |
| * ybit thinks he may have picked up something from the stinky and sickly customers | 21:33 | |
| kanzure | but nobody except fenn and eric are going to get it | 21:33 |
| * fenn wonders if he should release the 'arduino nano' and make "millions" | 21:34 | |
| fenn | wow you can show your engine RPM on your iphone ~~ | 21:35 |
| fenn | why does that video make me want to get a machine gun | 21:35 |
| ybit | http://jon.oxer.com.au/ . first vid is a presentation of things to do witha car | 21:35 |
| ybit | fenn, you're my best friend, don't shoot me | 21:36 |
| kanzure | sometimes friends have to be that way | 21:36 |
| kanzure | take a bullet for the team :) | 21:37 |
| fenn | "look at me i'm writing a book" | 21:37 |
| ybit | away from fenn? sure | 21:37 |
| ybit | hehe | 21:37 |
| ybit | hehe was for writing a book comment | 21:37 |
| ybit | i'm guess guessing you were talking about softwear? | 21:38 |
| ybit | don't need to answer that | 21:38 |
| fenn | is softwear by jon oxer? | 21:38 |
| ybit | dunno | 21:39 |
| fenn | anyway, arduino was cool about a year ago | 21:39 |
| ybit | just found it from the latest twitter friend | 21:39 |
| ybit | ..who tweets constantly about arduino | 21:39 |
| ybit | http://twitter.com/littlebirdceo | 21:39 |
| fenn | it's like ubuntu and debian | 21:40 |
| fenn | people think ubuntu is the best thing since sliced bread, but have no idea what debian is | 21:40 |
| fenn | so when you tell them to grow up and use a real microcontroller they just stare blankly | 21:40 |
| kanzure | for the past few years on the internet, everything has been turning into that | 21:41 |
| kanzure | and I'm not sure anybody is actively trying to stop that or anything | 21:41 |
| ybit | fenn, that is a good analogy | 21:41 |
| ybit | good in that it's something i've experienced | 21:41 |
| kanzure | I used to be more harsh on newbies .. but then I figured out I was just an ass. | 21:42 |
| ybit | and so i'm going to make the assumption and say every arduino user is like that | 21:42 |
| ybit | fuck the newbs | 21:42 |
| ybit | i eat newbs for a living | 21:42 |
| ybit | the world would be better without them, hail hitler | 21:42 |
| fenn | heil machiavelli | 21:43 |
| kanzure | sometimes they need a good bonking on the head | 21:43 |
| kanzure | but that would be "abuse" or something | 21:43 |
| ybit | er, hale :P | 21:43 |
| fenn | kale kittler | 21:43 |
| ybit | :) | 21:43 |
| kanzure | any conversation is sufficiently stupid once hitler is compared to lolcats and/or kittens | 21:43 |
| fenn | http://onastick.net/sitz/images/ | 21:44 |
| ybit | maybe that should be one of the rules on the channel, no comparisons of lolcats nor philosophy is allowed | 21:44 |
| kanzure | that's spoofing something, but I'm too lame to figure it out | 21:44 |
| ybit | lolcats *and hitler* | 21:44 |
| fenn | what about hitler's philosophy about lolcats? | 21:45 |
| fenn | it's from warhamer 40k, which (used to be) the best minifig RPG ever | 21:46 |
| fenn | don't tell steve jackson | 21:46 |
| ybit | new topic: hai can has stdio? visible "hitlr wishez he wuz lulz kat" kthnxbye | 21:47 |
| kanzure | you know, I'm not sure I understand why point_shape is necessary at all | 21:53 |
| kanzure | what's all this el-math.pi/2 crap | 21:53 |
| * kanzure deletes randomly | 21:53 | |
| fenn | *drool* http://youtube.com/watch?v=vlD_6p1aV5E | 21:58 |
| fenn | el-math.pi/2 is so the rotations end up in the right place .. why are you deleting stuff? | 21:59 |
| fenn | az = azimuth, el = elevation | 21:59 |
| genehacker | wow that's amazing | 22:10 |
| genehacker | they really do chip away the metal | 22:11 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: kanzure * r 78974a1a1a1c / (core/yamlcrap.py pymates/pymates.py pymates/rapid-test.py): trying to get two simple interface vectors to display correctly, see rapid-test.py presently | 22:14 |
| kanzure | fenn: how come that's not right? what am I doing wrong? the vectors do not point to the same spot | 22:14 |
| kanzure | the rays, I mean | 22:14 |
| kanzure | arrows | 22:14 |
| genehacker | interface vectors? | 22:15 |
| genehacker | you seem to be making progress | 22:15 |
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| genehacker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86Krv3gE-c4&feature=channel_page | 22:47 |
| genehacker | what skdb might be like once we get up to the fabrication stage | 22:48 |
| fenn | god that guy's annoying | 23:18 |
| fenn | what does that have to do with skdb?\ | 23:18 |
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| genehacker | kanzure has talked about having tech dependency trees | 23:28 |
| genehacker | this guy worked up a dependency tree | 23:28 |
| fenn | he needs a video editor | 23:29 |
| fenn | wtf is the point of videos anyway | 23:30 |
| genehacker | documentation | 23:32 |
| genehacker | I guess | 23:32 |
| genehacker | the point is | 23:32 |
| genehacker | this is what working up a tech dependency tree might be like | 23:32 |
| fenn | i'm sorry i didn't watch the video | 23:32 |
| fenn | easily aggravated today it seems | 23:33 |
| genehacker | code not working? | 23:34 |
| genehacker | well he is quite annoying | 23:34 |
| genehacker | hey isn't there some website that allows one to view videos removed from youtube? | 23:38 |
| fenn | how would they know which ones were going to be removed? | 23:39 |
| fenn | or just download all of them? is that possible? | 23:39 |
| genehacker | I don't know | 23:39 |
| genehacker | www.crunchgear.com/2009/04/16/japanese-geek-builds-awesome-giant-beetle-robot-for-some-reason-video/ | 23:39 |
| genehacker | damn copyright claims | 23:39 |
| fenn | meh | 23:40 |
| genehacker | I wanted to see if it didn't use wheels for moving around | 23:41 |
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