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| ybit | hrm, think there's been a paper publish with something similar to that question... | 00:22 |
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| genehacker | nah seems it's basic math | 00:23 |
| genehacker | just need to find length | 00:24 |
| genehacker | canfind angle easily | 00:24 |
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| ybit | i wouldn't say basic, and the paper wasn't referring to that specific question, something similar to it though | 00:45 |
| ybit | mason-l is also the author of uzbl_tabbed.py ftr | 00:45 |
| mason-l | And the cookie_daemon.py (in the uzbl project) | 00:45 |
| ybit | mason-l: soon i will go to bed, promise | 00:46 |
| mason-l | ybit, See you later. | 00:46 |
| ybit | hehe | 00:46 |
| ybit | yeah, it's time | 00:46 |
| * ybit waves goodbye | 00:46 | |
| mason-l | Thats: uzbl.org if anyone is interested (and or doesn't know what ybit was referring to) | 00:46 |
| ybit | i had mentioned it in here before | 00:47 |
| mason-l | ah :) | 00:47 |
| ybit | kanzure the proceeded to post about it in diyh+ i believe | 00:47 |
| ybit | s/the/then | 00:47 |
| mason-l | Nice | 00:48 |
| ybit | mason-l: http://groups.google.com/group/diytranshumanist/browse_thread/thread/cd11a83bcd3532b6/1e908ea08ba2d9f2?lnk=gst&q=uzbl#1e908ea08ba2d9f2 | 00:49 |
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| genehacker | HOLY COW! | 01:16 |
| genehacker | you guys should really go outside | 01:16 |
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| genehacker | saw some meteors that were brighter than Mars and left an ion trail that lasted acouple of minutes | 01:17 |
| fenn | thanks for reminding me | 01:59 |
| fenn | well that was underwhelming | 02:46 |
| genehacker | how long did you watch and how much sky did you cover per unit time? | 02:48 |
| fenn | let's see.. my eyeballs were scanning approximately 0.8 steradians at a luminous flux intensity of 2.9dB*m^2/W | 03:14 |
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| fenn | i saw a heron, four quick streaks, a green ion trail, and some thing that looked like a meteor but stayed in the sky too long and wobbled around a lot | 03:16 |
| genehacker | a heron? | 03:16 |
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| genehacker | I saw a chinook helicopter | 03:17 |
| fenn | well it was a huge white bird that was really high up.. should have brought the binoculars | 03:18 |
| genehacker | dang | 04:03 |
| genehacker | I assume the wobbly one is a joke? | 04:03 |
| genehacker | well switching partitions | 04:05 |
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| genehacker | http://nextbigfuture.com/2009/08/rowan-university-publishes-further.html | 04:22 |
| genehacker | WTF? | 04:22 |
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| kanzure | it's hilarious that it took nine minutes for him to switch partitions | 06:38 |
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| drazak | kanzure: all your base are belonged to the internet | 09:20 |
| fenn | kanzure: add these to the ppt plz http://fab.cba.mit.edu/content/tools/design/web/git.html | 09:53 |
| fenn | just the images | 09:53 |
| fenn | http://adl.serveftp.org/lab/fenn/stone-presentation/ | 10:07 |
| fenn | kanzure: can you get this in ppt without it barfing? http://adl.serveftp.org/lab/fenn/stone-presentation/yaml.yaml | 10:19 |
| strages | ybit: http://www.eetimes.eu/products/electromech/212902183 | 10:37 |
| drazak | kanzure: do you still have a bunch of papers on nanoparticles? | 11:37 |
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| CIA-38 | skdb: fenn * r 42fe328c4722 /core/yamlcrap.py: forgot iteritems(); fixes the "too many values to unpack" error | 11:42 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: fenn * r ad431bba5ea9 /packages/lego/lego.py: typo | 11:42 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: fenn * r 9c281cccc4c2 /geom/geom.py: Merge branch 'master' of ssh://adl.serveftp.org/var/www/skdb | 11:42 |
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| kanzure | drazak: nanoparticles? hrm. you mean the eznanoparticle synthesis stuff? | 11:46 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: fenn * r c2435d2f8f83 /packages/threads/__init__.py: this probably has something to do with the "no module threads" error | 11:52 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: fenn * r 3b3092f22766 /pymates/ (pymates.py rapid-test.py): ORANGE doesnt exist (on my pythonOCC at least) | 11:52 |
| kanzure | what about PURPLE? | 11:52 |
| fenn | nope | 11:52 |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/lab/presentations/updates-from-austin.odp | 11:54 |
| kanzure | " Living cells use energy to move actively and spontaneously. To influence them without jeopardizing their chemical makeup was a tremendous challenge. Dogariu and Sugaya began exploring the idea of moving an entire cell by focusing on its inner mechanisms. Inside the cells there are slender rods made up of a protein called actin. | 12:27 |
| kanzure | “Actin rods are constantly vibrating, causing the cells to move sporadically” Sugaya said. The researchers demonstrated that low-intensity polarized light can guide the rods’ Brownian motion to ever-so-slowly line up and move in the desired direction." | 12:27 |
| drazak | kanzure: I think you had a bunch of stuff about nanoparticles | 12:28 |
| drazak | at some point | 12:28 |
| kanzure | any other keywords? | 12:41 |
| drazak | not that I remember | 12:43 |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/lab/presentations/updates-from-austin.pdf | 13:17 |
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| fenn | http://www.peeron.com/inv/sets/951-1 | 13:59 |
| fenn | kanzuretron, scriptify! | 13:59 |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/lab/legos/bulldozer.tar | 14:01 |
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| ybit | it's times like these when i wish i hadn't deleted my mirrored content | 15:57 |
| ybit | strages: saw it, some time last i believe | 15:58 |
| ybit | last +year | 15:58 |
| * ybit doesn't see the Suda paper on eugen's website | 15:59 | |
| ybit | argh, hate gmail's interface. | 16:03 |
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| katsmeow-afk | Phreedom of Phreedom.org? | 16:46 |
| Phreedom | katsmeow-afk: eh? | 16:46 |
| katsmeow-afk | i was just wondering | 16:47 |
| katsmeow-afk | you're Phreedom, and there's a Phreedom.org | 16:47 |
| ybit | katsmeow-afk: phreedom as in the other person who wants to live on a boat | 16:49 |
| ybit | er.. water vehicle | 16:49 |
| katsmeow-afk | he could still be the same Phreedom as Phreedom.org, it's not an exclusing possibility | 16:50 |
| ybit | :) | 16:50 |
| ybit | off to work | 16:50 |
| Phreedom | katsmeow-afk: not in my case ;) | 16:51 |
| katsmeow-afk | Today, after several days of smoke from trash fires, i purchased a double bib Tyvek hood and some aerosol/fume respirator cartridges. I have fans to run off batteries to blow thru the cartridges into the hood, to have clean air to breathe and no smoke in my hair or upper shirt area. | 16:53 |
| katsmeow-afk | now might be a good time to buy steel, if you plan on a steelboat; you can get 3/16 4x8 plate under $100 | 16:55 |
| strages | interesting idea: say I wanted to make a cloud indoors, where would I start? | 17:08 |
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| fenn | 1) get or make an orbital habitat a couple miles across | 17:50 |
| fenn | 2) add water | 17:50 |
| CIA-38 | brain: kanzure master * r768c102 / allenbraininstitute/mouse/gene_names_by_len : removing cruft (blank lines) - http://bit.ly/2xe57E | 18:06 |
| CIA-38 | brain: kanzure master * r06d34fd / allenbraininstitute/mouse/gene_names_by_len : passed the gene name list through uniq - http://bit.ly/AtLwE | 18:11 |
| CIA-38 | brain: kanzure master * r15ccede / allenbraininstitute/mouse/gene_names_by_len : | 18:11 |
| CIA-38 | brain: Revert "passed the gene name list through uniq" | 18:11 |
| CIA-38 | brain: This reverts commit 06d34fdb04b5ef18b19f301c620e61c2256b1fab. | 18:11 |
| CIA-38 | brain: it didn't work anyway - http://bit.ly/2FRIP1 | 18:11 |
| CIA-38 | brain: kanzure master * r41cc077 / allenbraininstitute/mouse/gene_names_by_len : ran the file through uniq properly this time - http://bit.ly/hmuJf | 18:11 |
| kanzure | jonathan totally screwed this section up: | 18:15 |
| kanzure | http://openwetware.org/wiki/DIYbio/FAQ#What.27s_all_this_about_.22open.22.2C_anyway.3F | 18:15 |
| genehacker | a cloud of what? | 18:28 |
| genehacker | phosgene? | 18:29 |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/lab/presentations/skdb-updates/updates-from-austin.html | 18:30 |
| kanzure | oh fuck | 18:34 |
| kanzure | zeroday: | 18:34 |
| kanzure | http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/fulldisclosure/2009-08/0174.html | 18:34 |
| kanzure | '- Linux 2.6, from 2.6.0 up to and including 2.6.30.4 ' | 18:34 |
| kanzure | '- Linux 2.4, from 2.4.4 up to and including 2.4.37.4 ' | 18:34 |
| kanzure | 'All Linux 2.4/2.6 versions since May 2001 are believed to be affected: ' | 18:34 |
| kanzure | Linus committed a patch correcting this issue on 13th August 2009. | 18:34 |
| kanzure | http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=e694958388c50148389b0e9b9e9e8945cf0f1b98 | 18:34 |
| kanzure | "This bug was discovered by Tavis Ormandy and Julien Tinnes of the Google | 18:34 |
| kanzure | Security Team. | 18:34 |
| kanzure | -- | 18:34 |
| kanzure | ------------------------------------- | 18:34 |
| kanzure | tavisosdf.lonestar.org |" | 18:34 |
| kanzure | sdf.lonestar.org?: | 18:34 |
| genehacker | zero day for linux? | 18:37 |
| drazak | sdf.lonestar.org is an old shell server | 18:37 |
| genehacker | good thing I'm on vista right now | 18:38 |
| genehacker | oh wait | 18:38 |
| kanzure | genehacker: so did you figure out apt-get yesterday? | 18:42 |
| genehacker | yes | 18:44 |
| genehacker | I love linux | 18:44 |
| kanzure | yeah? | 18:44 |
| genehacker | yes | 18:44 |
| kanzure | fenn: will you revert paths.py back to whenever it was working or something? | 18:47 |
| kanzure | or fix the changes that broke it? | 18:48 |
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| kanzure | "intranasal stem cell therapy" | 20:32 |
| genehackerclone | does it work? | 20:32 |
| kanzure | "The migrating stem cells got a boost if the researchers first had the rodents snort an enzyme called hyaluronidase, whose day job is to make connective tissue more permeable. Of approximately 300,000 stem cells administered, an average of 584 reached the olfactory bulbs when the enzyme was not given; when it was, the number nearly tripled. The effect was muted for cells reaching the cerebral cortex and other areas of the brain, however." | 20:41 |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/papers/Intranasal%20delivery%20of%20cells%20to%20the%20brain.pdf (give it a few seconds to finish uploading) | 20:43 |
| katsmeow-afk | that's not new news tho, is it? | 20:48 |
| katsmeow-afk | wasn't that reported some yrs ago? | 20:48 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: fenn * r 1a5c8b25ca15 /packages/lego/interfaces.py: Feature.type got overwritten by null, restore it | 20:57 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: fenn * r 215763b12893 /packages/lego/demo.py: wrong interface name; this would just print the same thing every time | 20:57 |
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| jonathan__ | ping | 21:14 |
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| kanzure | why'd they only let it go for 1 hour? | 21:15 |
| kanzure | cells can't migrate that far in only one hour | 21:15 |
| kanzure | maybe there's a way to deactive the nasopharyngeal mucosa | 21:21 |
| kanzure | oh | 21:21 |
| kanzure | glioma cells were able to migrate to the cerebral cortex (frontal cortex) | 21:21 |
| kanzure | "viral capsids and macromolecules like albumin or liposomes injected into the striatum in rats were shown to be transported to the globus pallidus within 30 minutes (Hadaczek et al., 2006)" | 21:23 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: fenn * r ece46bc0d14d /core/part.py: make part1.options(part2) work | 21:27 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: fenn * r 928d6aaee9da /packages/lego/data.yaml: didn't mean to leave part: null lying around | 21:27 |
| ybit | kanzure: you were asking what type of clouds, i think strages is trying to do what bill gates is doing, in a smaller form atm | 21:31 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: fenn * r 9aaed79b0e12 /core/skdb.py: make tags.yaml self-test work again | 21:33 |
| kanzure | ? | 21:33 |
| kanzure | part mating | 21:33 |
| ybit | who is the mailing admin diyh+? | 21:35 |
| kanzure | probably jata | 21:36 |
| ybit | yup | 21:36 |
| kanzure | can anyone give me a job | 21:42 |
| QuantumG | as in employment? | 21:42 |
| QuantumG | you're like the most inventive guy I know.. can't you start a cottage business of some sort? | 21:43 |
| kanzure | how do I make people give me money? | 21:44 |
| QuantumG | sell interesting stuff that people want :) it doesn't have to be something no-one else is selling, but that is interesting, and I know you like interesting. | 21:45 |
| QuantumG | or do a service.. | 21:45 |
| kanzure | that doesn't tell me how to make people give me money | 21:46 |
| kanzure | don't get me wrong, I have a billion and one ideas | 21:46 |
| kanzure | and lots of time to implement them | 21:46 |
| QuantumG | people give you money because it is of more value to them to get you to do it than to do it themselves. | 21:46 |
| kanzure | just because I am offering something you want doesn't mean you will give me money | 21:46 |
| QuantumG | its a good start | 21:47 |
| QuantumG | but, the thing to remember, we still live in the restricted-means-of-production economy | 21:49 |
| kanzure | okay? | 21:50 |
| QuantumG | if you can get access to some means of production that others cannot, you really don't have to think about how to make money. | 21:50 |
| QuantumG | in your case, can you get access to a wet lab? | 21:50 |
| kanzure | sure | 21:50 |
| QuantumG | so what's the problem? pick a few protocols that people need done, put up a website to take "orders" and fulfill em | 21:51 |
| QuantumG | people who don't have access to a wet lab or just have too much of their own wet lab work to do are your customers. | 21:52 |
| kanzure | I'd rather sell kits. | 21:53 |
| QuantumG | ya, so you'll be doing mailing until you hire people to do that for ya or outsource it.. but that requires volume. | 21:54 |
| kanzure | so does doing protocols | 21:54 |
| QuantumG | yeah. | 21:56 |
| kanzure | does anyone have a tool that extracts images from PDFs? | 21:58 |
| QuantumG | printscreen :) | 21:59 |
| kanzure | I'm doing automatic image analysis on my PDF collection | 21:59 |
| kanzure | I want to find all images that have arrows by training an image recognition association weighting engine thinger | 21:59 |
| QuantumG | ahh | 21:59 |
| kanzure | I guess I have this: | 22:00 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/scripts/segment_image | 22:00 |
| ybit | http://multivalent.sourceforge.net/Tools/pdf/Extract.html | 22:01 |
| ybit | http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Graphics/PdfRipImage-16804.shtml | 22:01 |
| kanzure | yay | 22:01 |
| ybit | and maybe something like http://incubator.apache.org/pdfbox/ ..there's some patches which allow image extraction from what i gather | 22:02 |
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| kanzure | Journal of Source Code for Biology and Medicine: http://www.scfbm.org/ | 22:05 |
| ybit | nice | 22:09 |
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| ybit | b | 22:20 |
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| CIA-38 | skdb: fenn * r 002897ca8eca /unittests/test_package.py: unscrew tests | 22:58 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: fenn * r f7c2809a4355 /unittests/tests.py: threads is a package now | 22:58 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: fenn * r 851f7863b824 /packages/screw/ (data.yaml metadata.yaml): use standard container for screw | 22:58 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: fenn * r 4aa1038e93bc /unittests/test_package.py: maybe someday these will be useful | 22:58 |
| genehackerclone | does anyone here know about network booting? | 23:35 |
| ybit | genehackerclone: what are you wanting to do? | 23:36 |
| genehackerclone | turn on my computer from Mexico | 23:36 |
| genehackerclone | so I can VNC into it | 23:36 |
| QuantumG | wake-on-lan | 23:37 |
| QuantumG | no, I don't know anything :) | 23:37 |
| genehackerclone | ok | 23:37 |
| QuantumG | Wake on LAN must be enabled in the Power Management section of a PC motherboard's BIOS setup utility. | 23:38 |
| QuantumG | In addition, in order to get WoL to work it is sometimes required to enable this feature on the interface card. Details of how to do this depend upon the operating system and the device driver. | 23:38 |
| QuantumG | you need to know the MAC address of the ethernet card in that computer | 23:39 |
| QuantumG | http://www.depicus.com/ | 23:40 |
| QuantumG | http://gsd.di.uminho.pt/jpo/software/wakeonlan/mini-howto/wol-mini-howto-3.html | 23:40 |
| genehackerclone | only have wireless | 23:40 |
| genehackerclone | this will not work out | 23:40 |
| genehackerclone | thanks for the info though | 23:41 |
| QuantumG | :) | 23:41 |
| QuantumG | some people I know run a company selling a product called "Greentrac" which tracks how active your computers are and allows admins to set different power profiles for different times of day/week. They use wake-on-lan to wake up the machines which have been shutdown by the profile. | 23:42 |
| fenn | wake on lan != boot from network (or turn on computer from network either) | 23:43 |
| genehackerclone | now I just need a good VNC client... | 23:43 |
| fenn | you know what ssh is right? | 23:43 |
| QuantumG | fenn: it isn't boot from network.. it *is* turn on a computer that has been appropriately shutdown by sending a magic packet across the lan. | 23:44 |
| genehackerclone | no I don't | 23:44 |
| fenn | *bonk* | 23:44 |
| genehackerclone | it's a network communication protocol | 23:45 |
| genehackerclone | that's all I know | 23:45 |
| fenn | ssh -X will let you run stuff from a remote computer | 23:46 |
| genehackerclone | and see the screen? | 23:46 |
| fenn | it's not exactly like vnc but same general idea | 23:46 |
| fenn | you just see the program you're running, not the whole screen | 23:46 |
| genehackerclone | and not as vulnerable to attack as VNC? | 23:46 |
| fenn | not nearly | 23:46 |
| genehackerclone | I wonder how vulnerable VNC is without encryption and if I should even worry | 23:47 |
| QuantumG | even with encryption it blows | 23:47 |
| genehackerclone | how so? | 23:48 |
| QuantumG | if you care about security, you should ssh into the machine and port forward the VNC port to your local machine | 23:48 |
| QuantumG | password protection of VNC is a joke | 23:48 |
| QuantumG | initially they were sending the password plaintext | 23:49 |
| QuantumG | someone pointed that out | 23:49 |
| QuantumG | then they switched to sending the password hashed | 23:49 |
| genehackerclone | shit | 23:49 |
| QuantumG | which is exactly the same | 23:49 |
| genehackerclone | that is a joke | 23:49 |
| fenn | that's pretty funny | 23:49 |
| QuantumG | I don't know if they've moved to a trivial challenge/response yet | 23:49 |
| fenn | the only thing vnc is good for is screencasting | 23:51 |
| QuantumG | yeah, it's great.. it's just not secure :) | 23:51 |
| QuantumG | setting up my mum's computer without going over there.. gold | 23:51 |
| fenn | hmm ok | 23:51 |
| fenn | if you're into that sort of thing | 23:51 |
| genehackerclone | screencasting as in use a program from far away? | 23:54 |
| fenn | no, as in making a movie | 23:54 |
| fenn | i've had bad luck with existing tools (it might have gotten fixed tho) | 23:55 |
| QuantumG | ahh.. | 23:55 |
| QuantumG | VNC also has the session sharing stuff | 23:55 |
| QuantumG | that's awesome | 23:55 |
| QuantumG | we used to run it on our build machine | 23:56 |
| QuantumG | and have 4 people vnc'd into the same machine at the same time | 23:56 |
| fenn | gross | 23:56 |
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