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| ybit | strages: also look into http://studierstube.icg.tu-graz.ac.at/handheld_ar/artoolkitplus.php | 01:00 |
|---|---|---|
| ybit | ..if you are looking into the artoolkit | 01:00 |
| ybit | oh yeah, link: http://studierstube.icg.tu-graz.ac.at/handheld_ar/artoolkitplus.php | 01:01 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: kanzure * r f23019f08a16 /unittests/test_geom.py: make tests work | 01:20 |
| kanzure | wait, what? | 01:21 |
| kanzure | why does that work for me? | 01:21 |
| kanzure | there's "geom.blah()" sprinkled throughout that file | 01:21 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: kanzure * r 16ab66e6f3ee /unittests/test_geom.py: outline of further tests | 01:47 |
| fenn | stupid perl scripts.. why is it chopping off two characters from the commit hash? | 02:03 |
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| kanzure | hey davidnunez | 06:55 |
| davidnunez | 'allo | 06:57 |
| davidnunez | how's your fab lab coming? | 06:57 |
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| kanzure | slowly. | 07:03 |
| * kanzure goes back to sleep (will be back soon) | 07:03 | |
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| kanzure | todo: fetch Hydrogen Storage On Carbonized Chicken Feather Fibers | 10:49 |
| kanzure | re: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090623120833.htm | 10:49 |
| kanzure | found that in an email from the spacesettlers mailing list asking whether or not chickens would have a role to play on a spacehab :p | 10:49 |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/lab/super_what.py | 11:32 |
| kanzure | fenn: any idea why the name attribute isn't what I think it should be? | 11:32 |
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| kanzure | hey elias` | 12:02 |
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| flamoot | http://nextbigfuture.com/2009/08/previous-dense-plasma-focus-research.html | 12:40 |
| flamoot | "The problem with hydrogen as a gas or liquid is its density is too low," Wool says. "Using currently available technology, if you had a 20-gallon tank and filled it with hydrogen at typical room temperature and pressure, you could drive about a mile. When we started we didn't know how well carbonized chicken feathers would work for hydrogen storage, but we certainly suspected we could do a lot better than that." | 12:43 |
| flamoot | i don't understand at all | 12:43 |
| drazak | I really should read about beta-catenin | 12:43 |
| flamoot | don't chicken feathers plus hydrogen take up more space than just hydrogen ?! | 12:43 |
| flamoot | anyone please | 12:46 |
| flamoot | is the hydrogen in -solid- form ?!? | 12:47 |
| kanzure | drazak: I typoed the hell out of that. sorry | 12:57 |
| kanzure | might be beta-catenein or beta-catinein or something :) | 12:57 |
| flamoot | wtf | 12:58 |
| flamoot | 13:49 <@flamoot> oh i can still remember julie tolentino | 12:59 |
| flamoot | 13:49 <@flamoot> the dancing filipino | 12:59 |
| flamoot | 13:49 <@flamoot> we used to run around | 12:59 |
| flamoot | 13:49 <@flamoot> she and flouncin' freddy were goin hot and steady | 12:59 |
| flamoot | 13:50 <@flamoot> now she runs a dike bar, the biggest one in town | 12:59 |
| kanzure | ? | 13:01 |
| drazak | kanzure: how did you typo the hell out of it? | 13:02 |
| drazak | I'm so confuzzled! | 13:02 |
| flamoot | look | 13:05 |
| flamoot | that article actually really angried up my blood | 13:06 |
| flamoot | -i- cant picture any denser storage of hydrogen than as a compressed gas | 13:06 |
| kanzure | drazak: by not checking whether or not I got the spelling correct | 13:18 |
| kanzure | is gp_Trsf._CSFDB_Getgp_Trsfloc supposed to return anything for a gp_Trsf that has been .SetTranslaton()'d ? | 13:18 |
| drazak | kanzure: why were you typing it anyway | 13:25 |
| kanzure | was listing out some ideas for using neural stem cells | 13:27 |
| drazak | beta-catenin doesn't have much to do with neural stem cells | 13:32 |
| bkero | 9~p/win 22 | 13:40 |
| drazak | well, unless you mean because of wnt signaling | 13:41 |
| * ybit is either going to purchase http://www.excaliberpc.com/590907/samsung-nc10-14gbk-160g-xp-10.2.html or http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9370272&type=product&id=1218093001788&ref=06&loc=01&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=9370272 within the next couple of weeks | 13:51 | |
| ybit | unless anyone knows of something better? | 13:52 |
| ybit | btw, if the treo 700w can handle AR apps, then the freerunner won't have a problem | 13:52 |
| ybit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM3K93Md3Wc | 13:52 |
| bkero | ybit: Actually | 14:14 |
| bkero | I'd recommend going on eBay and picking up a Fujitsu P1620 | 14:14 |
| bkero | Same size as either of those, much higher resolution, and has an ultra low voltage core 2 duo instead of an atom. | 14:15 |
| bkero | They used to be really expensive, but circuit city lease returns all got shoved on eBay, and drove the market value way way down. | 14:15 |
| bkero | also it's a tablet :) | 14:16 |
| drazak | ergh, what's the nmap flags for network discovery? | 14:17 |
| drazak | I want to know what hosts are online on my /24 | 14:17 |
| drazak | -sP? | 14:18 |
| kanzure | -B? | 14:19 |
| kanzure | well, for ping at least | 14:19 |
| ybit | bkero: what size keyboard is that? | 14:23 |
| bkero | ybit: better than an aspire one, eee 10" and dell mini 9/10. | 14:24 |
| bkero | I haven't measured the damn thing. | 14:24 |
| ybit | the heh | 14:25 |
| ybit | just wondering if it compares with the samsung netbooks, which have 93% and 97% regular notebook size keyboards | 14:25 |
| * ybit has large hands | 14:26 | |
| ybit | bkero: thanks for mentioning it | 14:27 |
| bkero | I just got one. | 14:27 |
| bkero | SIck of having 3 atoms in the house. | 14:27 |
| bkero | Nice, comes with a dock, extended battery, and dual battery charger | 14:27 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: kanzure * r 596603ad27ae / (geom/geom.py unittests/test_geom.py): flesh out the Transform class, make the unit test for Translation pass | 14:51 |
| fenn | kanzure: re super_what.py: doing "self =" in an init doesn't do what you want.. it just sets the local variable self to whatever, since python assigns by reference | 15:01 |
| kanzure | oh lovely | 15:01 |
| fenn | so if you did print self.name right after assigning it, it'll say hello2 but otherwise say hello in the rest of the program | 15:01 |
| fenn | btw why do you want to do self = anyway? | 15:02 |
| kanzure | that was a few hours ago, I figured out the right way to do it since then | 15:03 |
| kanzure | er, sort of. I figured out the right way but didn't implement it entirely. | 15:03 |
| fenn | flamoot: the hydrogen is dissolved into the solid, so yeah i guess you could say it's in solid form | 15:04 |
| fenn | flamoot: and to be a nit picker as usual, liquid hydrogen is denser than compressed hydrogen gas | 15:04 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: kanzure * r f010c82ea8e8 /geom/geom.py: fix it so fenn doesn't get confused when he inevitably reads the code a | 15:06 |
| fenn | yay | 15:06 |
| * fenn tries to fix ciabot | 15:06 | |
| kanzure | that's probably their max message length | 15:06 |
| kanzure | oh, the last two characters | 15:07 |
| fenn | the first two chars of the commit hash | 15:07 |
| fenn | substr($commit, 2, 12); probably has something to do with it | 15:08 |
| drazak | kanzure: the PI at my lab is going to be making oligos next week | 15:09 |
| kanzure | by hand? | 15:09 |
| drazak | yup | 15:09 |
| kanzure | why? | 15:09 |
| drazak | he's making them for gel shift assays, so they're radioactively labeled | 15:09 |
| kanzure | maybe you mean he's just labeling them | 15:10 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: kanzure stuff * r master /geom/geom.py: fix it so fenn doesn't get confused when he inevitably reads the code a | 15:10 |
| drazak | he said he was making them | 15:10 |
| fenn | what is 'stuff' supposed to be, a branch? | 15:10 |
| kanzure | 'stuff' is not a branch over here. | 15:10 |
| fenn | it was just what i typed when i ran the script | 15:11 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: kanzure see? * r master /geom/geom.py: fix it so fenn doesn't get confused when he inevitably reads the code a | 15:11 |
| kanzure | devil magic | 15:11 |
| drazak | lol | 15:11 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: kanzure * r 369247a /geom/geom.py: quick typo fix, also testing CIA | 15:12 |
| drazak | kanzure: I think he words were "i need to make oligonucleotides, the labs gonna get hot next week" | 15:12 |
| kanzure | it's just surprising if he's really bothering to do that | 15:13 |
| drazak | he used to do it in grad school | 15:13 |
| drazak | I guess that's just what he does | 15:13 |
| fenn | __doc__ = gp_Trsf.__doc__ | 15:13 |
| fenn | __doc__ = gp_Trsf.Inverted.__doc__ | 15:14 |
| drazak | kanzure: he's going to do footprinting too | 15:14 |
| fenn | you're going to make gel molds of your feet, how fun! | 15:15 |
| kanzure | fenn: nope | 15:15 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: kanzure * r 99648aa /geom/geom.py: worked on Rotation | 15:27 |
| kanzure | hm totally forgot about this: 325 def get_point(self): return list(self.__gp_Pnt_point.Coord()) | 15:28 |
| fenn | elif not gp_pnt == None: | 15:36 |
| fenn | same as saying "elif gp_pnt" | 15:37 |
| kanzure | rawr | 15:37 |
| fenn | assertNotEqual( Point(1,2,3).Transformed(gp_Trsf()), Point(1,2,3)) | 15:42 |
| fenn | that's wrong | 15:42 |
| kanzure | they should be equal | 15:42 |
| fenn | assertFalse(Point(1,2,3).Transformed(gp_Trsf()) is Point(1,2,3)) | 15:42 |
| kanzure | point1 = Point(1,2,3) | 15:43 |
| kanzure | point2 = point1.Transformed(gp_Trsf()) | 15:43 |
| kanzure | assertFalse(point1 is point2) | 15:44 |
| fenn | same thing | 15:44 |
| fenn | oops | 15:44 |
| fenn | ok | 15:44 |
| * kanzure adds | 15:44 | |
| CIA-38 | skdb: kanzure * r ff60d0c /unittests/test_geom.py: test Point.Transform | 15:46 |
| fenn | TypeError: __init__() should return None, not 'Point' | 15:58 |
| kanzure | why is __init__ returning something? | 15:58 |
| fenn | because i'm stupid | 16:09 |
| kanzure | I can accept that answer. | 16:15 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: fenn * r de77dc2 /geom/geom.py: modernizing safe_* functions | 16:20 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: fenn * r 682b3cd / (geom/geom.py unittests/test_geom.py): remove safe_* functions, allow passing OCC_triple as first argument | 16:20 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: fenn * r 0dc7f38 / (geom/geom.py unittests/test_geom.py): Merge branch 'master' of ssh://adl.serveftp.org/var/www/skdb | 16:20 |
| * fenn gets out the butterknife | 16:20 | |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/lab/screenshots/2009-08-15_theo.png | 16:22 |
| kanzure | fenn: test_yamlcrap.py is failing on test_bad_tag | 16:33 |
| fenn | is Point.Transform supposed to change Point? i mean gp_Pnt.Transform modifies the point, but gp_Pnt.Transformed doesn't | 16:53 |
| fenn | test_bad_tag always failed | 16:53 |
| kanzure | Point.Transform could be called Point.Transformed if you're having an anxiety attack about the name-switcha-roo | 16:53 |
| kanzure | Point.Transform was supposed to return a new Point, not change the current self | 16:54 |
| fenn | right, i think we should stick to OCC naming conventions if it's so close | 16:54 |
| fenn | i mean you even capitalized the method | 16:54 |
| fenn | i dont think we should have any attributes/variables named transform | 16:55 |
| kanzure | okay | 16:55 |
| fenn | so it's a verb then | 16:55 |
| fenn | not a noun | 16:55 |
| fenn | use transformation if it's a noun | 16:56 |
| fenn | fucking math people fucking everything up all the time | 16:56 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: fenn * r 0f9d9cc / (geom/geom.py unittests/test_geom.py): fix bad init when passing gp_Pnt to Point | 16:57 |
| fenn | wtf | 17:08 |
| fenn | since when does "if 0" do something different than "if 1" | 17:09 |
| fenn | if 1e-999: print 'hi' | 17:12 |
| fenn | this is bullshit | 17:12 |
| kanzure | in all other languages, "0" is considered to be "false" | 17:18 |
| kanzure | so that's why I keep finding it strange that you want me to do stuff like "if some_var" | 17:19 |
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| CIA-38 | skdb: fenn * r 31c1c06 / (6 files in 5 dirs): not blah == None -> blah is not None | 17:37 |
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| kanzure | hey embraceunity | 17:37 |
| fenn | i think my not (x==None and y==None and z=None) was wrong anyway | 17:38 |
| embraceunity | hello | 17:38 |
| kanzure | try z==None | 17:38 |
| fenn | it wasn't a type | 17:38 |
| fenn | blah | 17:38 |
| fenn | i mean the logic of the statement was wrong | 17:38 |
| kanzure | you lose points for making typos about your typos | 17:38 |
| fenn | should have been x==None or ... | 17:38 |
| fenn | there wasn't any typo! | 17:38 |
| kanzure | "it wasn't a type" | 17:38 |
| fenn | go to hell | 17:39 |
| kanzure | hehe | 17:39 |
| kanzure | btw, Point().Transform() doesn't work | 17:39 |
| kanzure | I think your hack broke it | 17:39 |
| fenn | what is Point() supposed to do? | 17:39 |
| kanzure | Point(1,2,3).Transform(Transform()) | 17:39 |
| fenn | er. see this is why methods shouldnt be capitalized | 17:39 |
| kanzure | ValueError: invalid null reference in method 'gp_Pnt_Transformed', argument 2 of type 'gp_Trsf const &' | 17:40 |
| fenn | ok so should class Transform: actually be called Transformation? | 17:41 |
| kanzure | one step at a time | 17:41 |
| kanzure | sure why not | 17:41 |
| kanzure | but it's still broken anyway | 17:42 |
| fenn | >>> geom.Point(1,2,3).Transform(geom.Transform()) | 17:42 |
| fenn | Point(1.0, 2.0, 3.0) | 17:42 |
| kanzure | ok | 17:43 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: kanzure * r 7a0a62e / (geom/geom.py unittests/test_geom.py): added unit test for stacked transformations | 17:57 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: kanzure * r f831921 / (6 files in 5 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of ssh://bryan@adl.serveftp.org/var/www/skdb | 17:57 |
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| kanzure | ybit: I would appreciate it if you could somehow stalk me down a webkit+xpaths doohickey. | 19:20 |
| kanzure | and eventually I need to bother myself with setting up a squidproxy server somewhere | 19:31 |
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| CIA-38 | skdb: kanzure * r 06fe686 / (5 files in 3 dirs): added a unit test for (basic) part mating transforms | 21:13 |
| kanzure | test_geom.py fails somewhere but the failure is weird and was unexpected | 21:14 |
| kanzure | also I think I meant to do Transformation.run() somewhere but I don't remember doing it, so watch out for it's lackage | 21:17 |
| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Bachelet | 21:41 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: kanzure * r 7ffb2d3 /pymates/pymates.py: fix pymates imports | 21:57 |
| kanzure | so now it's just a matter of writing the correct unit tests in test_geom.py to make sure mate_connection() in geom.py works correctly. (it currently does not.) | 21:58 |
| ybit | hrm, so kanzure, you, samrose, and smari are developers of openkollab? | 22:07 |
| ybit | there is an irc channel #openkollab | 22:08 |
| kanzure | what the hell is openkollab | 22:14 |
| kanzure | from what I can tell, it's nathan's attempt at hijacking om | 22:15 |
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| kanzure | hi tropology_ | 22:29 |
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| kanzure | todo: mate first part with origin and some direction at origin | 22:42 |
| flamoot | http://media.englishrussia.com/jungle_pet/1_017.jpg | 22:54 |
| ybit | openkollab, from what i've gathered and veriefied on their irc channel is an initiative to develop collaboration tools... | 22:58 |
| ybit | .... | 22:58 |
| ybit | http://www.societyofrobots.com/robot_ERP.shtml | 23:38 |
| ybit | http://ros.sourceforge.net/ :: robot operating system | 23:39 |
| ybit | http://wagn.org/Explore_Organize_Thrive is what openkollab is basing their development around | 23:41 |
| fenn | ybit: if you know why my name is on the openkollab page please tell | 23:46 |
| ybit | i have no clue | 23:52 |
| ybit | i was surprised to see all those names on there and no discussion about it | 23:52 |
| fenn | i was to busy looking at pictures like http://media.englishrussia.com/jungle_pet/1_016.jpg to fix it | 23:54 |
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| ybit | Folding DNA into Twisted and Curved Nanoscale Shapes is in /usorted | 23:56 |
| ybit | papers/unsorted* | 23:56 |
| ybit | http://adl.serveftp.org/papers/unsorted/Folding%20DNA%20into%20Twisted%20and%20Curved%20Nanoscale%20Shapes.pdf | 23:56 |
| ybit | meh, lame | 23:57 |
| ybit | where's the cad program all these news outlets speak of | 23:57 |
| fenn | what's this supposed to mean, "beware of underwater robotic tentacles"? http://englishrussia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/000dqw64.jpg | 23:58 |
| fenn | ybit: nanorex? | 23:58 |
| ybit | http://bionano.physik.tu-muenchen.de/ | 23:59 |
| ybit | is it nanorex? | 23:59 |
| fenn | no | 23:59 |
| fenn | nanoengineer-1.com/ | 23:59 |
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