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| QuantumG | http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article6804599.ece | 02:42 |
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| fenn | wow cool | 03:24 |
| fenn | EMC now supports arbitrary serial kinematics | 03:24 |
| fenn | "these work for manipulators with up to 8 joints, either rotary or prismatic, and provide forward and inverse kinematics and jacobian functions." | 03:24 |
| fenn | http://juve.ro/blog/puma | 03:25 |
| QuantumG | I was looking at Bullet again yesterday | 03:26 |
| QuantumG | when I get the itch, I think I'll check out their soft body dynamics | 03:26 |
| QuantumG | see if I can do some space tether simulations | 03:26 |
| fenn | ah but the difference is EMC can control real machinery | 03:26 |
| fenn | the simulator is mostly just to check what you're about to do | 03:27 |
| QuantumG | ya | 03:28 |
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| splicer_ | did you see W3Cs Simple Knowledge Organization System (SKOS): http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/REC-skos-reference-20090818/ | 09:06 |
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| kanzure | pythonOCC now has qt4 support | 10:00 |
| kanzure | so for some reason, sciencedirect.com requires you to log in to get an RSS feed for a particular journal | 10:04 |
| kanzure | but the way that this works is that they give you a link with an md5 hash that tells them that it's a unique link, i.e. so that nothing fishy is going on (from their end) | 10:04 |
| kanzure | however once you generate the feed, you can go to that feed's link | 10:04 |
| kanzure | and you just have to log in with the free registration system | 10:04 |
| kanzure | seems like a weird and painful way to do it | 10:05 |
| kanzure | there's about 1800 journals on sciencedirect, so I figure getting their RSS feeds would be useful | 10:05 |
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| * ybit wonders if it's worth also purchasing http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2430460&CatId=495 | 12:18 | |
| ybit | kanzure: i have a few rss sdirect subscriptions in the rss feed xml i posted yesterday | 12:19 |
| ybit | it is a major pain in the arse to deal with | 12:19 |
| ybit | "The only cooling benefit comes from the finned heatsink on top. The pipe should pass through that, but doesn't. As useful as a Cherrybomb muffler on a Honda Civic, all flash and no benefit." | 12:22 |
| kanzure | ok done | 12:27 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/rss/journals/sciencedirect/ | 12:27 |
| kanzure | hell yeah | 12:27 |
| ybit | wow, good going | 12:28 |
| ybit | did you manually sign up for all of these?.. | 12:28 |
| kanzure | no :) | 12:29 |
| ybit | would be near impossible to do so in ~2 hours | 12:29 |
| ybit | ..manually | 12:29 |
| ybit | so..let's see that script of yours | 12:29 |
| kanzure | never! | 12:29 |
| kanzure | er, okay | 12:29 |
| ybit | :) | 12:29 |
| ybit | http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4401384&RSort=4&csid=ITD&body=#ReviewStart or http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3516738&RSort=4&csid=ITD&body=#ReviewStart | 12:30 |
| ybit | can buy one of the first or 2 of the second.. | 12:30 |
| ybit | splicer_: i think skos was mentioned in here at least once before | 12:31 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/sciencedirect-rss-src.zip | 12:32 |
| kanzure | oh fooey | 12:34 |
| kanzure | I fucked up all of the files | 12:34 |
| kanzure | double http | 12:34 |
| kanzure | well. I have nature and sciencedirect. I guess I'll do PLoS next but I'm running out of ideas. | 12:37 |
| kanzure | gah 15 MB of RSS :( | 12:38 |
| kanzure | and that's just the meta crap | 12:39 |
| ybit | Life Hours: 50,000 hours | 12:41 |
| ybit | that scares me | 12:41 |
| ybit | that's only 5 years | 12:41 |
| * ybit goes with option | 12:42 | |
| ybit | 1 | 12:42 |
| kanzure | hm, it seems there were 1526 RSS feeds when I tried doing this back in 2008 | 12:43 |
| kanzure | wtf hah | 12:43 |
| ybit | so.. i've spent $150. went with http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4034139&csid=_21 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3501402&pagenumber=2&RSort=4&csid=ITD&recordsPerPage=5&body=#ReviewStart and http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4401384&RSort=4&csid=ITD&body=#ReviewStart | 12:43 |
| kanzure | so, /mnt/maxtor/all/sciencedirect/ contains my attempts at scraping the entire sciencedirect collection | 12:43 |
| kanzure | at that time I also bothered to scrape the RSS stuff | 12:43 |
| kanzure | and now that I'm looking at the timestamps .. | 12:43 |
| kanzure | -rwxrwxrwx 1 bryan bryan 838682 2008-08-23 14:52 sciencedirect_OPML_cc630df8be87344d227964577339d9b4.xml | 12:44 |
| kanzure | nice to know I've gone *nowhere* in the last year | 12:44 |
| kanzure | how is it that I seem to cycle back to the same damn thing at the same damn time of each year? | 12:44 |
| ybit | thanks kanzure for ultimate-tool-buying-guide.yaml | 12:45 |
| kanzure | rawr | 12:45 |
| kanzure | only one sunday left | 14:02 |
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| ybit | one sunday left until what/ | 14:26 |
| ybit | trip to l.a., until school starts, until doomsday? | 14:29 |
| ybit | speaking of doomsday.. | 14:31 |
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| ybit | dooomsday == rebooting teh linux machines | 15:00 |
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| * ybit is curious how to protect against electromagnetic bombs | 16:42 | |
| drazak_ | lots of lead | 16:43 |
| fenn | lead isn't the ideal shielding | 16:45 |
| fenn | silicon steel is good, mu-metal probably best | 16:45 |
| fenn | ultra pure iron is also good, but even more expensive than mu-metal | 16:45 |
| ybit | a faraday cage is the term for such a protective covering | 16:46 |
| fenn | as a practical matter, a 50 gallon drum welded shut will protect against EMP from a nuclear bomb | 16:46 |
| fenn | faraday cage is only conductors and won't protect against rapid changes in magnetic fields | 16:46 |
| fenn | you also have to have magnetic shielding | 16:46 |
| fenn | i could be wrong | 16:47 |
| fenn | also, humans aren't immune to EMP as often portrayed in science fiction | 16:47 |
| fenn | kanzure: why would ADL care about EMC being able to run arbitrary robot kinematics? | 16:48 |
| drazak_ | who is adl | 16:52 |
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| genehacker | I'm online but I'm not online | 16:53 |
| fenn | drazak_: a mailing list | 16:55 |
| drazak_ | fenn: about what? | 16:55 |
| kanzure | fenn: pradeep is studying kinematics | 16:55 |
| kanzure | drazak_: Automated Design Lab | 16:56 |
| drazak_ | oh cool | 16:56 |
| drazak_ | so, I need a solution for something | 16:56 |
| drazak_ | my handwriting sucks horribly | 16:57 |
| drazak_ | and you need to label all these tubes at the lab so that other people can read them | 16:57 |
| drazak_ | what's the best solution that's as quick as writing on them? | 16:57 |
| kanzure | pre-printing out sticky tape ID numbers | 16:58 |
| kanzure | since you already know what you're going to be doing, | 16:58 |
| kanzure | you could even pre-print the labels | 16:58 |
| fenn | kanzure: pradeep is studying parallel kinematics | 16:58 |
| kanzure | inverse kinematics | 16:58 |
| fenn | still, serial matrix math won't help him at all | 16:59 |
| drazak_ | kanzure: but I don't always know what I'm going to be doing before hand | 16:59 |
| drazak_ | kanzure: or more than 5 minutes beforehand | 16:59 |
| fenn | get a rhinopro 5000 | 16:59 |
| drazak_ | that's fucking expensive | 17:00 |
| kanzure | drazak_: you're doing it wrong, then. that's not how labs should work. | 17:00 |
| kanzure | also you should be able to print in under <1min | 17:00 |
| drazak_ | kanzure: well, I don't always know what set of samples it's on | 17:00 |
| fenn | i got the rhinopro 1000 for like $40 | 17:00 |
| drazak_ | kanzure: or rather I know the set "hamstrings from vegf and msc treated animals" but not the numbers until I look at the tubes | 17:01 |
| fenn | it's probably good enough | 17:01 |
| genehacker | kanzure | 17:01 |
| genehacker | got a paper you should read | 17:01 |
| kanzure | fennn, is there any way I could force you to write your trig method today? | 17:01 |
| fenn | still i'd rather have something with a standard USB interface | 17:01 |
| genehacker | inverse kinematics is cool | 17:01 |
| kanzure | genehacker: well let's here it | 17:01 |
| kanzure | *hear | 17:01 |
| genehacker | finding it | 17:02 |
| fenn | kanzure: i believe some chocolate might motivate me | 17:02 |
| kanzure | how about a molten chocolate cake? | 17:02 |
| fenn | ew | 17:02 |
| kanzure | picky picky | 17:02 |
| genehacker | Towards cyclic fabrication systems | 17:02 |
| genehacker | for modular robotics and rapid manufacturing | 17:02 |
| kanzure | genehacker: yes I read that yesterday | 17:02 |
| fenn | i have bad associations with chili's | 17:02 |
| genehacker | oh good | 17:02 |
| genehacker | cool paper | 17:02 |
| fenn | last time i ate there i got a mouth infection | 17:02 |
| kanzure | the references are better imho | 17:02 |
| kanzure | hm is that where you got it from? | 17:02 |
| fenn | well not really | 17:02 |
| fenn | but my body doesn't know the difference | 17:02 |
| kanzure | does stealing from your own chocolate collection count? | 17:03 |
| kanzure | there was some mint chocolate in the freezer iirc | 17:03 |
| fenn | my chocoat collection is bankrumpt | 17:03 |
| kanzure | have you tried filing for chocolate chapter 11? | 17:03 |
| kanzure | genehacker: http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/rss | 17:04 |
| kanzure | genehacker: http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/rss/ | 17:04 |
| kanzure | genehacker: http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/rss/journals/sciencedirect/ | 17:04 |
| genehacker | you know we really should consider making a bioengineer cocoa plant | 17:04 |
| genehacker | cocoa cultivation uses a fair amount of modern day slavery | 17:05 |
| drazak_ | kanzure: you have all the sciencedirect journals?! | 17:06 |
| fenn | gene http://adl.serveftp.org/papers/moses_urethane_wax_replicator.pdf | 17:06 |
| fenn | it'll be done uploading any minute now | 17:06 |
| kanzure | drazak_: not all of them have RSS | 17:06 |
| kanzure | but yes all of the ones that have RSS | 17:06 |
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| drazak_ | kanzure: oh, I thought that was a scrape of the journals | 17:07 |
| kanzure | no the scrape is elsewhere on the hdd | 17:07 |
| kanzure | and it's only a partial scrape | 17:07 |
| kanzure | so I haven't shown it to you guys yet | 17:07 |
| fenn | drazak_: the rhinopro 1000 is definitely worth the $40 | 17:07 |
| drazak_ | fenn: yeah, I'll look into it at some point | 17:07 |
| drazak_ | fenn: I just need to write better on tubes | 17:07 |
| fenn | tubes weren't made for writing on | 17:08 |
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| fenn | if God had intended us to write on tubes, he would have given them stick-on labels! | 17:09 |
| genehacker | some tubes come with areas to write | 17:09 |
| fenn | genehacker: what were you doing with a microscope a couple weeks ago? | 17:10 |
| genehacker | kanzure got a link to setting up internet with linux? | 17:10 |
| genehacker | huh? | 17:10 |
| kanzure | genehacker: for UT? | 17:10 |
| genehacker | yeah? | 17:10 |
| genehacker | what microscope fenn? | 17:10 |
| genehacker | oh that | 17:10 |
| kanzure | genehacker: linux at utexas: https://management.pna.utexas.edu/static/faqs/dot1x/dot1x-linux.html | 17:11 |
| drazak_ | genehacker: generally speakiung our lab writes on the cap then details on the sides | 17:11 |
| genehacker | I was using it to look at metal | 17:11 |
| kanzure | genehacker: is that what you needed? | 17:12 |
| genehacker | yup | 17:12 |
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| fenn | this is helpful for figuring out license snafus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Quick-guide-gplv3-compatibility.svg | 17:20 |
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| genehacker | UBUNTU WOO! | 17:31 |
| genehacker | ubuntu woo | 17:31 |
| genehacker | seems slow for some reason | 17:32 |
| genehacker | no config needed | 17:32 |
| fenn | slow is probly bad DNS | 17:37 |
| * fenn mumbles something about /etc/resolv.conf | 17:37 | |
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| genehacker | http://www.hizook.com/blog/2009/08/03/high-speed-robot-hand-demonstrates-dexterity-and-skillful-manipulation | 17:59 |
| genehacker | wow | 18:00 |
| QuantumG | I like the tweezers one :) | 18:02 |
| genehacker | do you see how fast those fingers move? | 18:15 |
| genehacker | gah | 18:15 |
| genehacker | humanity is doomed | 18:19 |
| drazak_ | kanzure: I should take an inventory of all the chemicals we have at the lab | 18:32 |
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| fenn | just once i'd like to see a youtube robotics video without some comment about "humanity is doomed" | 18:45 |
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| kanzure | drazak_: if you take a full inventory you will become my bestest frnord ever | 18:50 |
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| drazak_ | kanzure: I'll do as good as I can | 18:56 |
| drazak_ | kanzure: I have an hour in the morning before anyone else gets there | 18:56 |
| fenn | you could take high resolution photos and have a pakistani child type up the chemical names | 18:58 |
| fenn | drazak_: kanzure wants you to look at this for some reason http://adl.serveftp.org/git/gitweb.cgi?p=skdb.git;a=blob;f=inventory/data/biology-lab-chemicals.incomplete.yaml | 18:59 |
| fenn | pictures are good too | 19:00 |
| drazak_ | fenn: I'm not going to type it up like that | 19:01 |
| drazak_ | fenn: no fucking way I have /that/ much time | 19:01 |
| drazak_ | fenn: I'm going to bring my laptop in and start cataloging it | 19:02 |
| fenn | what do you mean cataloging? | 19:02 |
| drazak_ | making a list | 19:06 |
| fenn | but that is a list | 19:06 |
| fenn | i don't really agree with the format | 19:07 |
| fenn | name, concentration, and volume are good enough | 19:07 |
| fenn | if it's something non-standard of course you should probably say what it is | 19:08 |
| fenn | 'buffer A' for example | 19:08 |
| drazak_ | I meant mainly the powders, and kits | 19:09 |
| drazak_ | I'll do the fridges some other day | 19:09 |
| genehacker | hehe | 19:11 |
| drazak_ | how is cataloging different than making a list? | 19:12 |
| drazak_ | I can make a list and put numbers next to it | 19:12 |
| drazak_ | and put where it is | 19:12 |
| fenn | you said "i'm not going to type it up like that. i'm going to start cataloging it (instead)" | 19:13 |
| fenn | which presumably meant you were going to do something different than type it up | 19:13 |
| drazak_ | well I'm certainly not going to put it in yaml format | 19:13 |
| fenn | yaml is easy | 19:14 |
| drazak_ | takes too long | 19:14 |
| fenn | compared to what? | 19:14 |
| drazak_ | NaCl | 19:14 |
| fenn | what does that even mean? | 19:14 |
| drazak_ | it means I don't have time to type Chemical: blah, Date: Blah, Concentration: Blah | 19:15 |
| drazak_ | instead I label a columns and just start going | 19:15 |
| fenn | is it solid? how many grams are there? | 19:16 |
| drazak_ | how do you measure grams when it's in a container without measuring it outside of the container | 19:16 |
| fenn | estimate | 19:16 |
| fenn | pick it up and shake it | 19:16 |
| drazak_ | oh god I suck at that | 19:16 |
| fenn | anyway just saying "NaCl" doesn't communicate very much | 19:17 |
| drazak_ | I'd rather look at the volume, and the supposed mass of stuff in the container, estimate the volume fraction and decide how much of it there is | 19:17 |
| fenn | sure, that's perfectly fine way to do it | 19:17 |
| fenn | just be consistent however you decide to write it up | 19:18 |
| fenn | not like i know wtf anyone is going to do with all these inventories anyway | 19:19 |
| drazak_ | I'll use it | 19:19 |
| drazak_ | I mean, if I want to do some sort of experiment, I want to know if we have something, or if we have enough | 19:19 |
| drazak_ | I dunno wtf you people are going to do with the inventories from my lab | 19:19 |
| fenn | yeah that's what i meant | 19:20 |
| drazak_ | I mean | 19:20 |
| drazak_ | I know if I was going to start a lab my inventory would be much different | 19:20 |
| drazak_ | I would have less of these kits | 19:20 |
| drazak_ | and more of the actual stuff to do stuff | 19:20 |
| fenn | stuff! | 19:21 |
| fenn | and lots of thingies | 19:21 |
| drazak_ | I mean I'd have the specific reagents to isolate DNA and a method for the lab | 19:21 |
| drazak_ | that way if we switch kits results won't change, we're all using the same reagents | 19:21 |
| fenn | SCIENCE | 19:21 |
| drazak_ | because there's no kit to change, anyway | 19:22 |
| fenn | kanzure: i'll write that code as soon as i figure out how to run pythonOCC | 19:23 |
| fenn | er. s/run/import/ | 19:23 |
| * fenn kicks sshfs in the nads | 19:24 | |
| drazak_ | so are you guys just sitting next to eachother? | 19:26 |
| drazak_ | also what code | 19:26 |
| fenn | wtf why can't user "bryan" read this? drwxr-xr-x 1 fenn bryan | 19:30 |
| fenn | drazak_: he's in the other room watching the simpsons | 19:30 |
| drazak_ | lol | 19:31 |
| fenn | i'm attempting to write some cad code on bryan's computer because mine sucks and/or doesn't have a monitor or functioning pythonOCC install | 19:31 |
| kanzure | fenn, drazak: I wasn't estimating the mass of the containers. they were graduated glassware. | 19:32 |
| drazak_ | kanzure: these aren't | 19:33 |
| drazak_ | kanzure: and I'm not talking about how you did it, but how i'm going to do it | 19:33 |
| fenn | what does this mean? d????????? ? ? ? ? ? tub | 19:38 |
| fenn | that's from ls -l | 19:38 |
| fenn | sigh. when did this all become so hard | 19:41 |
| fenn | what's up with your vim? "Sorry, the command is not available in this version" | 19:44 |
| kanzure | vim should be normal | 19:53 |
| fenn | any clue? ImportError: No module named DataExchange.STEP | 19:54 |
| fenn | hmm there are multiply pythonOCC's on this box | 19:55 |
| kanzure | wasn't it OCC.DataExchange.STEPImporter ? | 19:56 |
| fenn | no that's the class name | 19:56 |
| fenn | i think maybe you have an old/incomplete pythonOCC in manufacturing (which is what i've been using) | 19:57 |
| kanzure | where's the othering? | 19:57 |
| kanzure | er the other one | 19:57 |
| fenn | local | 19:58 |
| fenn | i should just download 0.3 or something | 19:58 |
| fenn | i have no idea what is going on | 19:58 |
| kanzure | there should be a copy in /mnt/maxtor/software/pythonOCC/ too | 19:59 |
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| genehacker_ | any linux expert here want to tell me how to run an .exe on my windows partition | 22:28 |
| genehacker_ | with wine | 22:29 |
| fenn | wine foo.exe | 22:31 |
| genehacker_ | huh? | 22:31 |
| kanzure | that's how you run the exe | 22:40 |
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| genehacker_ | I don't get it | 22:40 |
| genehacker_ | it doesn't quite work right | 22:40 |
| genehacker_ | going to switch to the EVIL partition | 22:46 |
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| ybit | anyone have family members suggesting what you should do with your life continually? "oh, you would be great at this, you really should consider this field to work in" today it was cyber security -_- usually these suggestions are based on little thinking. i asked a few questions that i'm having a tough time answering myself today to one of my family members and it was suggested that i should really consider writing a book or making a board game with su | 23:39 |
| ybit | but anyway, here come a few questions to consider | 23:39 |
| ybit | Sports, what's the point. What mindset do people have which allow them to watch sports, are they recieving dopamine due to watching this? What's triggering this release of neurotransmitters? | 23:43 |
| ybit | Why do a majority of people want to date others? We can hypothesize that it's due to some insinct to pass on our genes eventually, but is that really the cause? Sanity... What's the point of a "balanced life", to maintain sanity. But what is sanity? I asked one of my family members and it was interesting to see them go through a similar thought process of my own slowly leading them into where they could understand my own view. As they seemingly instinc | 23:58 |
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