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| kardan| | hey guys, what do you think of this: http://www.geekwithlaptop.com/modulus-the-eco-friendly-laptop-well-kinda | 08:32 |
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| kardan| | you can assemble and disassemble the various parts using the snap fittings so I guess that means you can put your tool bag away. If something goes wrong you don’t have to replace the whole thing, or send it back lock stock and barrel to the manufacturer and wait impatiently for its return; you just replace the individual component. What could be easier than that? | 08:33 |
| kanzure | ./skdb-get.py --verbose --repo http://adl.serveftp.org/skdb-packages/ lego | 08:56 |
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| kanzure | "the colony" is lame | 10:51 |
| kanzure | where did the machinist randomly get his drill press? | 10:51 |
| kanzure | they just so happened to have a warehouse with solar panels, machine tools, water purifiers, and a store of beans and rice? that seems unlikely | 10:52 |
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| kanzure | blargh | 14:39 |
| ybit | ? | 14:48 |
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| ybit | oi genehacker | 15:06 |
| ybit | so what's going on today? | 15:14 |
| genehacker | ello ybit | 15:14 |
| genehacker | http://www.denverpost.com/portlet/article/html/imageDisplay.jsp?contentItemRelationshipId=1564612 | 15:15 |
| genehacker | do you have any homing pigeons? | 15:15 |
| genehacker | I think they might be a secure way to transfer files | 15:15 |
| ybit | until a redneck shoots it down | 15:16 |
| genehacker | oh dear | 15:16 |
| genehacker | that might be a problem | 15:17 |
| genehacker | anyway | 15:17 |
| genehacker | I'm trying to install my textboo | 15:17 |
| genehacker | k | 15:17 |
| genehacker | it's pdf that's been crippled | 15:17 |
| ybit | so i've read | 15:17 |
| genehacker | it also doesn't work on linux | 15:17 |
| genehacker | the website says it's good to share | 15:18 |
| genehacker | i need a cat | 15:19 |
| genehacker | or some other furry animal to agree to the user agreement | 15:19 |
| ybit | smash a spider on the left click button | 15:19 |
| genehacker | oops | 15:19 |
| genehacker | I accidently pressed ok? | 15:19 |
| genehacker | what should I do? | 15:19 |
| genehacker | I don't know how to stop installation? | 15:20 |
| genehacker | I don't know how to computer | 15:20 |
| ybit | ps -aux | grep <some keyword which may show up> | 15:20 |
| ybit | kill -9 <the process id> | 15:20 |
| genehacker | huh? | 15:22 |
| genehacker | what does that do? | 15:22 |
| ybit | you asked how to kill the process, was just explaining | 15:22 |
| ybit | man ps | 15:22 |
| ybit | man kill | 15:22 |
| genehacker | man = manual | 15:23 |
| genehacker | I will remember that | 15:23 |
| ybit | random read fact: 6 qintillion 250 quadrillion electrons is in one electron | 15:25 |
| ybit | s/electron/coulomb | 15:25 |
| genehacker | ok | 15:44 |
| genehacker | FSCK | 15:48 |
| genehacker | I just accidently subscribed to keep me informed of new products! | 15:49 |
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| CIA-32 | skdb: kanzure * r f2a6315 /doc/technical-devices.yaml: yawn | 16:17 |
| xp_prg | hi partiers! | 16:18 |
| xp_prg | drazak_ I am working on your program right now | 16:18 |
| genehacker | ugh | 16:48 |
| genehacker | textbook doesn't appear to be in PDF | 16:49 |
| genehacker | this might mean I NEED AN INTERNET CONNECTION TO USE MY BOOK | 16:54 |
| kanzure | why not just download the html? | 17:02 |
| kanzure | use: wget -m | 17:02 |
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| genehacker | what HTML? | 17:10 |
| kanzure | how are you reading it? | 17:11 |
| genehacker | I don't see any | 17:12 |
| genehacker | book works without internt | 17:13 |
| xp_prg | http://code.google.com/p/pysynthbio/wiki/PageName?ts=1251585470&updated=PageName | 17:38 |
| xp_prg | help me if you want | 17:38 |
| CIA-32 | skdb: kanzure * r 25f787d /doc/technical-devices.yaml: more devices | 18:04 |
| fenn | kanzure: can you kick "diann hindle" from atxfab? | 18:17 |
| kanzure | done. also fixed the group settings to prevent that from happening in the future. | 18:23 |
| fenn | while you're cracking out on lists: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Laboratory_equipment | 18:43 |
| fenn | not that i know what you're going to do with these lists | 18:44 |
| fenn | genehacker: have you ever read this? http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html | 18:44 |
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| * fenn unsubscribes from wta-talk | 18:56 | |
| * bkero noms | 18:57 | |
| fenn | bkero how many hours do you sleep on average? | 18:57 |
| bkero | fenn: 8 hours or so | 18:58 |
| fenn | do you set an alarm clock for the most part? | 18:58 |
| bkero | On weekdays when I have to go to work | 18:58 |
| bkero | I wake up an hour later on weekends | 18:58 |
| bkero | 3AM-10AM sleep schedule typically | 18:59 |
| fenn | you go to work at ~11? | 18:59 |
| bkero | I go to work ~10 | 18:59 |
| bkero | Usually get there around 10:15 or so | 18:59 |
| bkero | 3 minute bike ride | 18:59 |
| fenn | comfy | 18:59 |
| bkero | It's not too bad | 19:00 |
| fenn | how many hours a week do you watch television? | 19:00 |
| bkero | I don't own a television | 19:01 |
| fenn | do you cook food at home or eat at restaurants? | 19:01 |
| bkero | I have a projector with boxee media centre. As far as watching shows that were once broadcast on television, typically about a 24-show season per week | 19:01 |
| bkero | Eat out a lot | 19:01 |
| fenn | so about 12 hours a week? | 19:02 |
| bkero | 40 minute episodes | 19:02 |
| bkero | 16 hours per week | 19:02 |
| * bkero has been watching farscape | 19:02 | |
| fenn | would you say there is a vibrant local community of people that Get Shit Done? | 19:02 |
| bkero | Wouldn't know | 19:03 |
| bkero | What's the purpose of this? | 19:03 |
| bkero | Are you filling out a survey with my info? | 19:03 |
| fenn | heh no | 19:03 |
| fenn | attempting to isolate what's wrong with my life | 19:03 |
| bkero | Everybody I work with gets shit done. | 19:03 |
| bkero | Only reason I go to school here is my job | 19:04 |
| fenn | what is your job? | 19:04 |
| bkero | http://osuosl.org/about/people | 19:04 |
| bkero | Being the resident crazy person | 19:05 |
| fenn | nice buzzword soup | 19:05 |
| bkero | Thanks | 19:06 |
| bkero | You sure something is wrong with your life? | 19:06 |
| fenn | well it's not what i imagined.. | 19:07 |
| fenn | maybe i just need to stop eating cooked food | 19:10 |
| CIA-32 | skdb: kanzure * r 42392af /doc/technical-devices.yaml: electronic devices (basic) added. not inclusive of anything interesting unfortunately. | 19:11 |
| bkero | Er | 19:11 |
| bkero | I wouldn't suggest a raw diet | 19:11 |
| bkero | Watch some Good Eats and find something delicious and healthy to cook/nerd about. | 19:12 |
| ybit | fenn: what do you not like about your life? | 19:41 |
| ybit | speak up, this is therapy session time | 19:47 |
| ybit | my guess is that it's your sleeping schedule | 19:48 |
| kanzure | sorry, fenn's sleeping right now and can't return your call | 19:49 |
| * bkero is debugging gentoo. Stupid gentoo is being stupid | 19:52 | |
| bkero | OpenSSL is killing X. :/ | 19:52 |
| bkero | for i in $(qlist -IvC); do sudo equery check =$i; done | 19:53 |
| bkero | CHecking the md5sum of every package-owned file on my system | 19:53 |
| ybit | is this thing on? hello?? *clears throat* hey fenn, it's ybit.. just thought i'd respond to one of your previous messages, maybe you should try changing your sleeping schedule, i know it helps me. another health tip is to not have caffeine past 3pm or exercise 3 hours or less before sleeping.. anyway, you'll probably never get this so i'll just say it now.. i f*(#&@ your mom last night. cheers | 19:55 |
| ybit | but seriously, staying awake past 3am doesn't allow me to get the proper sleep that i think i need while not using modafinil or related drugs | 19:56 |
| ybit | bkero: nice | 20:00 |
| ybit | isn't there a su -c command or something equivalent of sudo.. i forget.. | 20:03 |
| bkero | su will let you change users | 20:04 |
| bkero | sudo su - ybit will make me ybit | 20:04 |
| ybit | right | 20:04 |
| ybit | but i thought there was a way to pass an argument as well | 20:04 |
| ybit | su username -c command is what ##linux says | 20:05 |
| bkero | man su ;) | 20:05 |
| ybit | i knew it was something like that | 20:05 |
| ybit | yeah yeah | 20:05 |
| bkero | -c, --command COMMAND | 20:05 |
| bkero | Specify a command that will be invoked by the shell using its -c. | 20:05 |
| ybit | so it makes one ask what the point of sudo is.. | 20:06 |
| bkero | Sudo still has a very important purpose | 20:06 |
| ybit | think it's best for a large network with multiple users where a few will occasionally need root privs.. | 20:06 |
| bkero | sudo lets you let a user act as any other user, not just root | 20:06 |
| bkero | and it restricts what commands a user can run | 20:06 |
| bkero | also s/user/user and group/ | 20:07 |
| ybit | "20:06 < bkero> and it restricts what commands a user can run" yeah.. that's why i was thinking it's for larger networks | 20:07 |
| bkero | I have some users on my systems that are allowed to only use root privs to restart ircd | 20:07 |
| ybit | i personally have no use for it since i only have myself as a user on this comp and i don't have any other services which require a seperate user account | 20:08 |
| bkero | sudo also plays nicer with pipes | 20:09 |
| bkero | I give certain sudo privs to some of my daemons users in case they need to do something outside of their own perms | 20:10 |
| bkero | (IE if the apache user needs to grab some resources belonging to nagios that regular perms won't fix) | 20:10 |
| ybit | never used nagios | 20:11 |
| bkero | Use it all the time at work and at home | 20:11 |
| genehacker | ?+ | 20:21 |
| genehacker | fenn how doe that sleep logger thing of yours work? | 20:22 |
| kanzure | "hydraulic fuse" | 20:24 |
| * bkero saw one of his favorite people in the world do a talk on sleep labs at DefCon | 20:27 | |
| bkero | You guys want the talk? | 20:27 |
| * bkero didn't realize you guys were into sleep | 20:27 | |
| ybit | bkero: sure, upload please | 20:29 |
| ybit | i bet it's already uploaded somewhere... | 20:29 |
| bkero | Not really, the talks are usually kept offline | 20:30 |
| bkero | I just have the presentations from them | 20:30 |
| bkero | They want to sell them, they'll come online in a few months | 20:30 |
| parolang | bkero: What's the synopsis? | 20:31 |
| parolang | 20:31 | |
| bkero | parolang: You can build a decent sleep lab at home :) | 20:33 |
| parolang | ah :) | 20:33 |
| * parolang reads http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep | 20:33 | |
| ybit | 12:26 < ybit> note to paralong: time firefox 6.05s time uzbl 0.15s | 20:34 |
| bkero | parolang: http://staff.osuosl.org/~bkero/defcon-17-ne0nra1n-hacking_sleep-part1.pdf | 20:35 |
| ybit | ty | 20:35 |
| parolang | ybit: Is that startup time? | 20:35 |
| bkero | She did a talk last year that got me interested in EEGs | 20:35 |
| bkero | (she made her own) | 20:35 |
| parolang | bkero: thanks, checking it out now | 20:37 |
| kanzure | dung borer: | 20:38 |
| kanzure | hollow taper dung borer | 20:38 |
| kanzure | wtf? | 20:38 |
| bkero | parolang: There's also a part 2, modify the url accordingly :)( | 20:38 |
| bkero | :) | 20:38 |
| bkero | and a badass demonstration | 20:38 |
| fenn | bung borer | 20:39 |
| ybit | where's the part on "How to Build Your Very Own Sleep Lab" | 20:39 |
| * bkero hasn't read the entire slideshow yet, it was included in the demonstration and overall presentation | 20:40 | |
| kanzure | dung borer sounded more manly | 20:40 |
| ybit | parolang: yeah, that's startup | 20:41 |
| ybit | bkero: is this the girl with pink hair and fairy wings? | 20:41 |
| parolang | ybit: Sounds good :) | 20:42 |
| ybit | bkero: ah yes, ne0nrain, yup, that's the girl | 20:42 |
| bkero | ybit: Yes | 20:43 |
| bkero | Have you met her/know of hre? | 20:43 |
| bkero | *her | 20:43 |
| bkero | Canadian who's a bit whimsical in the brain pan. | 20:43 |
| ybit | i've seen 1 or 2 presentation on the interwebs from her | 20:44 |
| bkero | Which ones? | 20:44 |
| bkero | The EEG and another? | 20:44 |
| ybit | eeg and the one before that i believe | 20:44 |
| ybit | well... | 20:45 |
| ybit | -eeg | 20:45 |
| ybit | the one i can remember is the one where they had volunteers come up and they played a game which monitored how anxious or excited they would become | 20:45 |
| ybit | search the logs, i'm sure i linked to it :) | 20:46 |
| bkero | ybit: The building a sleep lab is in part 2 | 20:46 |
| ybit | http://defcon17sleeplab.googlepages.com/ | 20:48 |
| bkero | awesome | 20:49 |
| ybit | hmm, i've a atmega 328... wonder what the diffs are | 20:50 |
| bkero | Wow, wireless heart rate monitors are < $20? | 20:58 |
| parolang | Wow, I think I definitely need to get a handle on my sleep. It explains a lot. | 21:05 |
| ybit | http://healthysleep.med.harvard.edu/ | 21:06 |
| ybit | i didn't know about http://sleepdex.org | 21:06 |
| parolang | Yeah, I'm reading sleepdex now. | 21:07 |
| ybit | was looking for the previous pdf/poster on rest released from harvard on how to rest.. almost certain i posted a link here | 21:07 |
| ybit | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_auto_parts | 21:11 |
| ybit | A $672 electric car, built by two DIYers..hmm | 21:12 |
| ybit | http://ecomodder.com/blog/a-672-electric-car/ | 21:12 |
| ybit | http://www.forkenswift.com/ | 21:12 |
| * bkero likes his $250 electric bike | 21:15 | |
| ybit | being healthy isn't american, are you a terrorist or something? | 21:15 |
| * ybit readies his 10 gauge shotgun | 21:16 | |
| fenn | oregonians are all terrists | 21:16 |
| bkero | Haha, they bought and gutted a forklift | 21:17 |
| ybit | anyone have experience with dbpedia? would it be easier to grab lists using dbpedia sparql queries or just downloading a copy of wikipedia to me hdd?.. | 21:18 |
| ybit | i'm going to say sparql | 21:18 |
| ybit | http://dbpedia.org/page/Category:Auto_parts | 21:27 |
| ybit | turns out it's easy to manipulate lists with dbpedia | 21:27 |
| CIA-32 | skdb: kanzure * r a4b95b0 /doc/technical-devices.yaml: finished typing up book | 21:53 |
| fenn | let's see this book | 21:58 |
| kanzure | it's missing a lot | 21:58 |
| ybit | 3025 lines | 21:58 |
| ybit | 3035* | 21:58 |
| * ybit wants pics | 21:59 | |
| kanzure | they are in the book | 21:59 |
| ybit | boooh | 21:59 |
| ybit | todo: scrape pictures for technical-devices.yaml | 22:00 |
| genehacker | kanzure in a proprietary viewer no doubt | 22:00 |
| genehacker | going to pester the representative till I get a PDF | 22:00 |
| genehacker | that works on linux | 22:01 |
| genehacker | thanks fenn | 22:03 |
| genehacker | fenn how does your sleep logger work? | 22:03 |
| fenn | i thought you already asked that | 22:04 |
| genehacker | I'm thinking of doing obsessive life logging and making an uberschedule to cover all tasks | 22:04 |
| fenn | basically it works by obsessive life logging | 22:04 |
| genehacker | I'm stuck in an endless recursion of time at the moment | 22:05 |
| kanzure | todo task management is not the same thing | 22:05 |
| genehacker | how is data entered? | 22:05 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/todo.html <-- do not do this | 22:05 |
| fenn | genehacker: i have a file that has a bunch of entries like: 1910 2000 watch naruto, food lentils+rice+tomatoes+sour-cream 3.5c | 22:05 |
| fenn | that wasn't by choice, btw, kanzure forced me to | 22:06 |
| kanzure | hey >:"( | 22:06 |
| ybit | broke out the whip again aye? | 22:06 |
| genehacker | dear god | 22:06 |
| kanzure | (that's a naturo smiley) | 22:06 |
| ybit | :P | 22:06 |
| genehacker | watch naruto | 22:06 |
| ybit | already have, i'm good | 22:06 |
| * ybit kept with his caloric intake for, maybe, 3 or so months | 22:06 | |
| genehacker | I won't ever let that one past you | 22:07 |
| genehacker | so basically I want to schedule everything | 22:07 |
| kanzure | no you don't | 22:07 |
| ybit | don't do it genehacker | 22:07 |
| ybit | org-mode will rot your brain | 22:07 |
| kanzure | it crippled me | 22:07 |
| fenn | schedules are stupid | 22:07 |
| kanzure | and it will cripple you too | 22:07 |
| genehacker | is there some reason why it won't work? | 22:07 |
| genehacker | what do you mean crippled? | 22:07 |
| kanzure | you don't want to schedule based off of time, do you? | 22:08 |
| kanzure | what's the point of that | 22:08 |
| kanzure | you should schedule stuff based off of when you will have tools | 22:08 |
| genehacker | I have the tools | 22:08 |
| kanzure | then why isn't it done? | 22:08 |
| genehacker | I'm not talking about hobbies | 22:08 |
| ybit | i have more of a through these days, do this, and if a task isn't completed, it's rolled over to the next 'immediate' todo list created | 22:08 |
| kanzure | neither am I | 22:08 |
| genehacker | I'm talking about school | 22:08 |
| kanzure | yeah me too | 22:09 |
| genehacker | and homework and stuff | 22:09 |
| kanzure | I usually write programs to help me do my homework | 22:09 |
| genehacker | what would said program do? | 22:09 |
| kanzure | anyway, life logging and todo scheduling are two different things | 22:09 |
| ybit | http://dpaste.com/87164/ | 22:09 |
| kanzure | well it's usually custom for the task | 22:09 |
| parolang | org-mode++ | 22:09 |
| ybit | an overview of my todo | 22:09 |
| genehacker | give a task | 22:10 |
| kanzure | integration | 22:10 |
| kanzure | sympy does this if you know how to use python | 22:10 |
| kanzure | symbolic integration too | 22:10 |
| genehacker | it's rather hard to have a program for everything in engineering classes | 22:11 |
| genehacker | especially thermo | 22:12 |
| kanzure | genehacker: http://adl.serveftp.org/skdb/doc/technical-devices.yaml | 22:12 |
| kanzure | yeah it wouldn't be one program for everything | 22:12 |
| kanzure | it would be one program for a particular problem type | 22:12 |
| kanzure | or something | 22:12 |
| genehacker | tried to do that at one point | 22:13 |
| genehacker | didn't work out | 22:13 |
| kanzure | try orgs-mode I guess | 22:13 |
| kanzure | I used to use hnb, which is like a pathetic form of org-mode | 22:14 |
| fenn | man i wish i knew about GNU units when i was in school | 22:14 |
| genehacker | some statics problems are mostly just figuring out how to input the data into the equation | 22:14 |
| kanzure | but biologists don't use units, fenn! | 22:14 |
| fenn | or symbolic math programs | 22:14 |
| genehacker | GNU units? | 22:14 |
| kanzure | genehacker: are you on ubuntu at the moment? | 22:14 |
| fenn | it's just called 'units' but that's sorta overloaded | 22:14 |
| genehacker | they have those on TI 89s | 22:14 |
| genehacker | no | 22:14 |
| genehacker | I can read my textbook | 22:14 |
| kanzure | when you're back on ubuntu, | 22:14 |
| kanzure | do: sudo apt-get install units | 22:14 |
| genehacker | TI 89 <3 | 22:15 |
| fenn | man i keep hoping genehacker will listen and remember to what i keep saying | 22:15 |
| kanzure | then run: units 5mg kg | 22:15 |
| genehacker | what does units do? | 22:15 |
| kanzure | convert units | 22:15 |
| genehacker | kanzure | 22:15 |
| genehacker | that's awesom | 22:15 |
| fenn | or any expression with units in it | 22:15 |
| genehacker | WHY DIDN'T I KNOW ABOUT THIS BEFORE | 22:15 |
| fenn | BECAUSE I TOLD YOU | 22:16 |
| genehacker | I use google for that | 22:16 |
| fenn | google isnt as good | 22:16 |
| genehacker | can it convert from useless non metric units like slugs? | 22:16 |
| fenn | yeah, the data file is 4700 lines long | 22:16 |
| fenn | it's in /usr/share/misc/units.dat | 22:17 |
| genehacker | sweet | 22:17 |
| genehacker | if units exists is there a steamtables? | 22:18 |
| fenn | no | 22:18 |
| fenn | that's why we're writing skdb | 22:18 |
| genehacker | there is | 22:18 |
| genehacker | to do steamtables? | 22:19 |
| fenn | ... and other stuff, yes | 22:19 |
| genehacker | no there isn't | 22:19 |
| genehacker | nevermind | 22:19 |
| genehacker | damn | 22:19 |
| genehacker | I hate tables | 22:19 |
| fenn | yeah most tables can and should be done with a formula instead | 22:20 |
| fenn | unfortunately for me all the books ever provide is a table | 22:20 |
| fenn | so i guess i should write something that takes a table and returns a formula | 22:20 |
| genehacker | you can't do that with certain things | 22:20 |
| kanzure | hm maybe sympy has a regression engine? | 22:22 |
| genehacker | like steamtables | 22:22 |
| genehacker | though you might be able to do some program voodoo stuff that I don't know how to do | 22:22 |
| kanzure | genehacker: there's a way to look at data and figure out a symbolic equation that more or less fits the data | 22:22 |
| fenn | what's so special about steam? | 22:24 |
| fenn | it's nonlinear, sfw? | 22:24 |
| genehacker | good point | 22:24 |
| genehacker | yes it is nonlinear | 22:24 |
| genehacker | also learned some fluids stuff can only be experimentally determined | 22:25 |
| fenn | you can still come up with a formula | 22:25 |
| fenn | even a piecewise formula is better than a table | 22:26 |
| fenn | it's not like you're doing a cryptographic hash | 22:26 |
| genehacker | yeah | 22:27 |
| genehacker | heh stallman's future is funny and scary | 22:28 |
| genehacker | the soviet union had copyright laws? | 22:30 |
| fenn | heh, no | 22:32 |
| fenn | it was illegal to own any sort of printing device | 22:32 |
| fenn | or to publish without permission | 22:32 |
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| genehacker | those commie bastards | 22:35 |
| genehacker | Perhaps I should summon stallman | 22:37 |
| genehacker | to fight the evil textbook company in an epic battle | 22:40 |
| * ybit doesn't have enough emacs xp for its necromancy mode | 22:44 | |
| genehacker | xp? | 22:46 |
| genehacker | necromancy mode? | 22:46 |
| genehacker | BURN THE HEATHEN, BURN HIM NOW! | 22:46 |
| ybit | in my case, it's more like heath'n since my middle name starts with an n | 22:46 |
| ybit | btw, wikipedia is your best friend genehacker | 22:47 |
| ybit | ya know, aside from man and google | 22:47 |
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