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| kanzure | http://lachlan.bluehaze.com.au/nanoshite/ | 08:07 |
| kanzure | "shaman charlatanic temple-prostitutes" | 08:09 |
| kanzure | "Yes. Hype. I work at a Tier-I research university, and although there are plenty of good things going on here, a significant fraction of the labs prefer to stretch the truth. I've seen NASA do it too. Their product is actually what they can put in Powerpoint, not what is reality. Sad truth is, it works. There are enough people out there to buy it to make it a successful short term strategy. If your reading it in the popular press, I would give it a 50/50 for being worth a damn." | 08:16 |
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| kanzure | can anyone else access this? | 09:10 |
| kanzure | http://128.83.20.60/Wel2224/20090902-110005-Wel2224/pres_vars.js | 09:10 |
| katsmeow-afk | yeas | 09:10 |
| katsmeow-afk | but i didn't dl it | 09:11 |
| kanzure | what? | 09:11 |
| kanzure | okay. | 09:11 |
| katsmeow-afk | huh? | 09:11 |
| katsmeow-afk | woah, http://2-wit.media.mit.edu/?page=2 is a royal mess | 09:12 |
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| CIA-32 | skdb: kanzure * r ba078b1 /doc/todo: updated todo | 11:20 |
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| kanzure | hey wonklab | 11:26 |
| wonklab | yo | 11:27 |
| kanzure | a presentation by andrew hessel on "pink army stuff" http://adl.serveftp.org/sweden%20SALSS%20%20august%2021%202009.mov | 11:38 |
| wonklab | Scientists are saying they've identified magnetic monopoles. | 11:38 |
| wonklab | We'll all have to learn different Maxwell's equations. | 11:39 |
| wonklab | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauss'_law_for_magnetism#Modification_if_magnetic_monopoles_exist | 11:39 |
| wonklab | del*B = 0 is for old folks. | 11:39 |
| wonklab | People who don't know what's up. | 11:39 |
| kanzure | fenn: 3D exploded view diagram stuff: http://adl.serveftp.org/papers/Automated%20generation%20of%20interactive%203D%20exploded%20view%20diagrams.pdf | 11:55 |
| kanzure | does anyone know where I can find "Folding a fish, making a mushroom: the role of diagrams in executing assembly procedures." ? | 12:00 |
| wonklab | Publisher: Psychonomic Society, Austin, TX | 12:02 |
| wonklab | I can't seem to get to it online. | 12:03 |
| kanzure | ok got it | 12:07 |
| kanzure | http://www.psychonomic.org/search/view.cgi?id=2865 | 12:07 |
| CIA-32 | skdb: fenn * r d174759 /doc/proposals/assemblies.txt: fix outdated info | 12:08 |
| CIA-32 | skdb: fenn * r 7e8418e /doc/todo: begin merging | 12:08 |
| CIA-32 | skdb: fenn * r afc8252 /doc/todo: merge old list into working copy, delete obsolete info | 12:08 |
| fenn | kanzure: something screwed up with that last paper | 12:09 |
| fenn | wonklab: "magnetic monopole" stuff is bullshit, sorry | 12:11 |
| fenn | it's like how they went 7 times the speed of light, as long as you consider "group velocity" | 12:11 |
| fenn | it's just semantics | 12:11 |
| fenn | applied to sensationalist journalism | 12:11 |
| wonklab | So you think magnetic monopoles don't emerge in that situation? | 12:21 |
| wonklab | The researchers seem to believe they've split the magnetic dipole. | 12:24 |
| wonklab | And people have been trying to do this for forever. | 12:24 |
| wonklab | The monopole corrections to Maxwell's equations are pretty old, too. | 12:25 |
| fenn | no i think they're just finessing the definition of 'monopole' | 12:31 |
| fenn | there's always pairs of these monopoles in the experiment | 12:31 |
| wonklab | Yeah, they've just been pulled apart. | 12:31 |
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| wonklab | But aparently that's pretty similar to the style of monopole that Dirac proposed back in the day. | 12:32 |
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| wonklab | I guess the question is whether the magnetic monopoles are far enough apart that it looks like you have magnetic flux lines emanating from a point. | 12:36 |
| drazak | blah | 12:49 |
| drazak | the PI is gone and he wanted me to run experiments by him | 12:50 |
| drazak | I think he has radar for leaving at the most annoying times | 12:50 |
| drazak | "hm, I asked someone to ask me about something when they figure it out, I think I'm just gonna leave and then they can fuck it up by the time I get back, yeah!" | 12:50 |
| fenn | email ftw | 13:11 |
| drazak | he doesn't answer his email when he's not here | 13:15 |
| ybit | cell phone ftw, email is so 20th century :) | 13:24 |
| ybit | alright, time to install this 1tb hdd | 13:29 |
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| kanzure | can anyone get "State space representation of manufacturing operation plans in the presence of flexible routing capability" ? | 14:25 |
| kanzure | all these assembly planners suck | 14:46 |
| xp_prg | kanzure that is common place using mrp | 14:59 |
| kanzure | what? | 15:00 |
| kanzure | speak english | 15:00 |
| xp_prg | manufacturing resource planning *sigh* | 15:00 |
| kanzure | sorry the sentence still doesn't make sense | 15:01 |
| xp_prg | www.graysonconsulting.biz | 15:01 |
| xp_prg | listen to my adempiere talks | 15:01 |
| xp_prg | they talk all about it | 15:01 |
| xp_prg | or wikipidea it | 15:01 |
| kanzure | wikipedia the sentence? | 15:02 |
| kanzure | why would I do that | 15:02 |
| xp_prg | so you can know what I am talking about? | 15:02 |
| xp_prg | I specialize in mrp algorithms | 15:02 |
| kanzure | or you can fix your damn fucking sentence | 15:02 |
| xp_prg | you need this algorithms for what your doing or the specification/planning will be too tightly coupled | 15:03 |
| kanzure | you're a moron | 15:03 |
| kanzure | shut the fuck up | 15:03 |
| kanzure | don't talk to me unless you're willing to use english | 15:03 |
| kanzure | "kanzure that is common place using mrp" is not a good sentence at all | 15:03 |
| kanzure | and ignoring my requests for you to fix it isn't a good way to get on my good side | 15:03 |
| xp_prg | in short you need to specify you parts as follows: | 15:04 |
| kanzure | so you're not talking with me are you | 15:04 |
| kanzure | guess it's my fault for assuming | 15:04 |
| xp_prg | bill of materials | 15:04 |
| xp_prg | sub bill of materials | 15:04 |
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| xp_prg | resources that parts will be made on | 15:04 |
| kanzure | xp_prg: you're a moron | 15:04 |
| kanzure | skdb has a more useful format | 15:05 |
| kanzure | how about you go read it instead of assuming you know it? | 15:05 |
| xp_prg | routes combine the resources and the parts to create the final part | 15:05 |
| kanzure | can you stop talking? | 15:05 |
| xp_prg | there is no better format, that is the standard format for all manufacturing/assembly algoirthms | 15:06 |
| kanzure | not mine :) | 15:06 |
| kanzure | now fuck off | 15:06 |
| ybit | think i f'd the electron gun on the crt monitor -_- the very thing i was after.. maybe not though | 16:01 |
| ybit | this physics guy @ work claims a photolith device can be made for a few hundred, i told him to write down the parts list and get back with me | 17:02 |
| ybit | http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5663076/description.html :: US Patent 5663076 - Automating photolithography in the fabrication of integrated circuits | 17:05 |
| kanzure | ybit: yes it doesn't cost a lot. the trick though is figuring out the opitcs, like the condenser lense. | 18:18 |
| kanzure | ew a patent is the first search result (#6700644) | 18:26 |
| kanzure | homogenizer, condenser stop, condenser lens | 18:39 |
| kanzure | sometimes a projection lens | 18:39 |
| kanzure | maybe you can do photolithography with a water drop lens. those usually get 1.5 to 2x projection. | 18:49 |
| kanzure | does anyone know how to build a condenser? | 18:54 |
| kanzure | some really old lanterns: http://www.artgallery.sa.gov.au/noye/Lantern/Lighting.htm | 18:58 |
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| kanzure | maybe a plastic condenser | 20:16 |
| wrldpc2 | Bryan: book is in the mail | 20:32 |
| kanzure | I'm looking forward to it | 20:32 |
| wrldpc2 | Have you guys seen Inglourious Basterds? | 20:32 |
| kanzure | no | 20:33 |
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| wrldpc2 | good film ... nitrocellulose film features prominently | 20:34 |
| wrldpc2 | apparently back in the day if you had film canisters of this stuff you couldn't bring them on to public transportation because of their low-grade explosive potential | 20:35 |
| wrldpc2 | not quite explosive i suppose ... just highly flammable | 20:36 |
| wrldpc2 | How this relates is the lanterns in that link you posted reminded me of the projectors from the film. | 20:38 |
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| genehacker | kanzure want some football tickets? | 22:24 |
| genehacker | *want a football ticket? | 22:24 |
| genehacker | or what about you fenn? | 22:25 |
| genehacker | it's a very good ticket | 22:25 |
| genehacker | you could give it to someone who wants it if you don't | 22:25 |
| genehacker | I'm not in austin right now so I can't give it away there | 22:26 |
| ybit | http://web.jfet.org/inGrid/ | 22:53 |
| ybit | http://fffff.at/eyewriter/ | 22:55 |
| ybit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeY_KkZRlDc homemade delta robot | 22:57 |
| ybit | the first skdb project should be... http://www.flickr.com/photos/brickjournal/sets/72157605651816828/ | 23:05 |
| ybit | s/project/package | 23:06 |
| kanzure | what happened to your book scanner you were wanting to do? | 23:06 |
| drazak | kanzure: do you mind if I make /var/www/drazak/? | 23:06 |
| kanzure | you can use http://adl.serveftp.org/~drazak/ by making ~/public_html | 23:07 |
| drazak | kanzure: doesn't work | 23:07 |
| kanzure | wtf? | 23:07 |
| drazak | kanzure: I tried that yesterday | 23:07 |
| ybit | http://www.theworkshop.ca/ruralskills/knife/2/forge.htm diy forge construction | 23:07 |
| ybit | oh i still want to do it | 23:07 |
| kanzure | ybit: for diy forge construction, see backyardmetalcasting forums | 23:08 |
| kanzure | they banned me because they thought I was a spam bot when I tried to register | 23:08 |
| ybit | probably will be a month or two before i get to it, next paycheck is going toward items for my neorunner | 23:08 |
| kanzure | so I haven't bothered | 23:08 |
| drazak | kanzure: try it, http://adl.serveftp.org/~drazak/ | 23:08 |
| kanzure | yes I see | 23:08 |
| drazak | kanzure: are you sure UserDirs is on? | 23:09 |
| kanzure | mod_userdir is not installed | 23:09 |
| drazak | ahah | 23:10 |
| kanzure | fenn: okay it should work now | 23:15 |
| kanzure | er | 23:15 |
| kanzure | drazak: it should work now | 23:15 |
| drazak | ty | 23:15 |
| genehacker | you know what the first skdb project should be? | 23:33 |
| genehacker | making a flint knife | 23:34 |
| genehacker | because that's what we started with | 23:34 |
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| ybit | a screw is simple, but not so simple to make | 23:35 |
| ybit | might be able to automate the building of some lego structure with a delta robot? | 23:35 |
| kanzure | have you installed skdb yet? | 23:43 |
| ybit | yeah | 23:44 |
| ybit | think i installed it the day the git repo was available | 23:44 |
| kanzure | have you run it yet? | 23:44 |
| ybit | requires pythoncc iirc | 23:45 |
| kanzure | that might be a first step before suggesting projects | 23:45 |
| kanzure | actually certain parts don't require pythonocc at all | 23:45 |
| kanzure | maybe making a modification to a current package or something | 23:45 |
| ybit | like yaml and python files | 23:45 |
| ybit | my python isntall if f'd | 23:45 |
| kanzure | well if you don't have pythonocc, it will just yell at you, but it will not crash | 23:45 |
| ybit | have been trying to get around to it asap, installing arch so i don't have to waith on compiling | 23:46 |
| ybit | it's taken me this entire week just to fix a few broken deps on this system :-\ | 23:47 |
| kanzure | why are you using gentoo anyway? | 23:47 |
| fenn | ok stupid python question time | 23:47 |
| kanzure | you don't seem to have the time to hunt down dependencies | 23:47 |
| ybit | i like the idea of USE flags | 23:47 |
| fenn | i have class A: def foo(bar): return bar*123.456 | 23:47 |
| ybit | custom compiling eveverything... which you can do in arch if you so choose | 23:48 |
| kanzure | fenn: I think the first parameter is always "self" | 23:48 |
| fenn | class B(A): stuff = foo(789) | 23:48 |
| kanzure | unless you do something like @static ? (don't hold me to this) | 23:48 |
| fenn | it's not a method, just for building class specific data | 23:48 |
| fenn | and i "can't call @staticmethod object" | 23:48 |
| ybit | right, i don't have time for it which is why i'm turning to a binary distro | 23:48 |
| fenn | oh alsoin class A i have stuff = foo(123) | 23:49 |
| kanzure | try foo(self, bar) and see how that goes? | 23:49 |
| fenn | there is no self | 23:49 |
| fenn | i need this data for __init__ | 23:49 |
| kanzure | it's a nonstatic class method | 23:49 |
| ybit | supposedly dependency resolution is built into gentoo, but so far the portage and paludis have just gotten in my way | 23:49 |
| kanzure | isn't there a self for all nonstatic class methods? | 23:49 |
| fenn | if it's a class method i can't call it in class A | 23:49 |
| kanzure | hm | 23:50 |
| fenn | i think i should just use a regular function, nevermind | 23:50 |
| fenn | i'm just annoyed | 23:50 |
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