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| wrldpc2 | can i get the patent breaking links? | 01:59 |
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| wrldpc2 | You guys have to see this: http://stickam.com/member/loadChatRoom.do?roomId=1299966 | 02:00 |
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| ybit | bkero, any84775927, fenn_adl, do you all use esd mats? | 09:58 |
| bkero | nope | 09:59 |
| CIA-32 | skdb: kanzure * r 1135eee /thirdparty/graphsynth.py: EmbeddingRule class for graphsynth | 10:18 |
| CIA-32 | skdb: kanzure * r 1b5fe0e /packages/threads/generate.py: Merge branch 'master' of ssh://bryan@adl.serveftp.org/var/www/skdb | 10:18 |
| fenn | esd is only a problem if you have cats or carpet | 10:49 |
| ybit | that's essentially what my dad said | 10:53 |
| ybit | he's the first goto person for my questions | 10:53 |
| ybit | but i like to have second opinions | 10:53 |
| ybit | hrm, when you guys are editing yaml, you type our four spaces? o.O | 10:55 |
| ybit | s/our/out | 10:55 |
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| ybit | some of this seems useless | 11:02 |
| ybit | welding: | 11:02 |
| ybit | equipment: | 11:02 |
| ybit | safety glasses with side shields | 11:02 |
| ybit | dry, hole-free insulating gloves | 11:02 |
| ybit | esd mats | 11:02 |
| ybit | ventilation fan or vacuum | 11:02 |
| ybit | fire extinguisher | 11:02 |
| ybit | weldinghelment: | 11:02 |
| ybit | correctfilters | 11:02 |
| ybit | welderscap | 11:02 |
| ybit | ear protection | 11:02 |
| ybit | button shirt collar | 11:02 |
| ybit | oil free protective clothing: | 11:02 |
| ybit | leather gloves | 11:02 |
| ybit | heavy shirt | 11:02 |
| ybit | cuffless pants | 11:02 |
| ybit | high boots | 11:02 |
| ybit | buttoned shirt with collar for instance | 11:03 |
| ybit | from the safety guide: Electric and magnetic fields (EMF) can affect | 11:11 |
| ybit | Implanted Medical Devices. | 11:11 |
| ybit | wonder how it might affect someone with an rfid tag implanted | 11:12 |
| ybit | s/tag/chip | 11:12 |
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| ybit | http://global.ihs.com/standards.cfm?currency_code=USD&customer_id=21254B2A310A&shopping_cart_id=282438372B49403C4F5B4D28240A&country_code=US&lang_code=ENGL | 11:15 |
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| ybit | http://www.cganet.com/customer/publication.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1 | 11:53 |
| * ybit is becoming overwhelmed with standards and specifications | 11:54 | |
| * ybit needs a central repo for this, hmm... | 11:54 | |
| * ybit is looking up the welding helmet which is being used here | 12:04 | |
| ybit | http://www.jacksonsafety.com/linkdetails.cfm?groupid=3023293 kicks mine's ass | 12:04 |
| ybit | here's mine: http://www.jacksonsafety.com/linkdetails.cfm?groupid=3002507 | 12:06 |
| ybit | http://www.jacksonsafety.com/images/WeldingTopBanner.jpg the guy looks like he has a computer screen mounted to his head :P | 12:07 |
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| kanzure | http://www.opencascade.org/support/products/ssp/ | 12:40 |
| ybit | kanzure: didn't you jot down an inventory list for the adl? | 12:41 |
| fenn | heh | 12:41 |
| * ybit wants it :) | 12:41 | |
| kanzure | adl has no inventory | 12:41 |
| kanzure | just a bunch of chairs | 12:41 |
| fenn | 10 comfy chairs, 6 computers, twenty eight legos | 12:41 |
| ybit | :P | 12:41 |
| kanzure | 10 broken comfy chairs | 12:41 |
| kanzure | broken or in the process of breaking | 12:41 |
| ybit | aka, comfy ;) | 12:42 |
| fenn | actually it was the new guy, he stole my chair and substitued the broken one :( | 12:42 |
| ybit | i'm wanting to have all the equipment my school supplies at my the mancave soon | 12:42 |
| fenn | kanzure: http://www.opencascade.org/showroom/demos/# click on "Approximation" | 12:43 |
| fenn | i think it goes through every point though | 12:44 |
| ybit | am aware of invenotory lists for fablabs, pcr, and...? | 12:44 |
| fenn | really what is the point of this inventory crap | 12:44 |
| fenn | inventory is useless unless you have a model of what it does | 12:45 |
| ybit | because i can't keep up with it all in my puny head | 12:45 |
| ybit | yes yes, we realize the importance of skdb :P | 12:45 |
| ybit | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cutting_torch.jpg ..looks dangerous | 12:47 |
| ybit | ..from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazing_torch ..just trying to figure out what welding processes are used for what and why | 12:50 |
| ybit | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welding#Processes | 12:51 |
| ybit | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Remote_Fibre_Laser_Welding_WMG_Warwick.ogg | 12:53 |
| * ybit drools | 12:53 | |
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| * ybit wants to know wha the price of a laser cutter is and how many mW is used | 13:03 | |
| ybit | s/cutter/welder | 13:04 |
| fenn | depends | 13:04 |
| kanzure | not sure how to convert from Geom_BSplineSurface to Geom_Surface | 13:05 |
| kanzure | this just casts a Geom_BSplineSurface as a Geom_Surface via Handle() http://www.opencascade.org/org/forum/thread_3984/ | 13:05 |
| fenn | about the same as laser cutter of the same capacity, slightly less because you dont have to deal with so much metal vapor | 13:06 |
| kanzure | but how do I do that? | 13:06 |
| fenn | is that Geom.Handle? | 13:07 |
| fenn | Geom stuff has a GetHandle or GetObject method | 13:08 |
| kanzure | there is no Geom.Handle | 13:08 |
| kanzure | yes | 13:08 |
| kanzure | GetHandle | 13:08 |
| kanzure | but this just gives you Handle_Geom_BSplineSurface | 13:08 |
| fenn | it's an instance of Handle_GeomSurface no? | 13:09 |
| kanzure | what is? | 13:09 |
| fenn | Handle_Geom_BSplineSurface is a subclass of Handle_GeomSurface | 13:09 |
| kanzure | isinstance(Handle_Geom_BSplineSurface, Handle_Geom_Surface) | 13:09 |
| kanzure | False | 13:09 |
| kanzure | oh | 13:09 |
| kanzure | well it's not an instance | 13:09 |
| kanzure | so that's the first problem | 13:09 |
| kanzure | but yes help() shows that you are right | 13:09 |
| fenn | does whatever you're trying to do actually fail if you pass a Handle_Geom_BSplineSurface instead | 13:09 |
| kanzure | no | 13:10 |
| fenn | -_- | 13:10 |
| kanzure | fenn: what's the point of all these TColgp_Array20OfXY classes? | 13:20 |
| fenn | these = what? | 13:21 |
| kanzure | TColgp_Array and then every possible iteration you can imagine | 13:21 |
| fenn | i have no idea | 13:21 |
| kanzure | well luckily jelle somehow figured out that TColgp_Array is just an array but with this extra index parameter that it always insists on | 13:32 |
| kanzure | go jelle | 13:32 |
| kanzure | is it something about being french that helps you understand wtf is going on in OpenCASCADE? | 13:32 |
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| kanzure | http://www.oswash.org/ | 13:32 |
| fenn | ybit: why are there no photographs of welding done close up through a welding mask, like what you'd actually see when welding? | 13:37 |
| fenn | this is pretty cool looking http://www.paul-binns-swords.co.uk/Pattern_welding.htm | 13:41 |
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| ybit | creating a hackerspace is more difficult than one would think | 16:53 |
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| genehacker | kanzure are we still starting a hackerspace? | 17:02 |
| ybit | of course | 17:03 |
| ybit | where @, dunno | 17:03 |
| ybit | fenn_adl, i'm guessing you two aren't doing the h+ l.a. facility for awhile | 17:03 |
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| kanzure | ybit: no, we do not type four spaces | 18:34 |
| kanzure | ybit: set your tabwidth | 18:34 |
| kanzure | fwiw, http://adl.serveftp.org/lab/opencascade/explore_opencascade.py doesn't entirely work yet but it sorta kinda works. | 18:35 |
| kanzure | it helps plot paths from one opencascade object to another | 18:35 |
| kanzure | so you're not left sitting around thinking "wtf" | 18:35 |
| kanzure | genehacker: btw I was working on some surface model reconstruction code today | 18:39 |
| kanzure | it sort of works | 18:39 |
| kanzure | it takes a mesh and tries to make a brep | 18:39 |
| kanzure | well, it takes a point cloud actually | 18:40 |
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| ybit | kanzure: i thought that | 18:57 |
| ybit | 's what ya did | 18:57 |
| ybit | ..at least after i asked, was hoping you wouldn't bring that back up ;P | 19:06 |
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| ybit | http://filebin.ca/acmbpq/hackerspace.png | 20:02 |
| ybit | tell me what you think | 20:02 |
| ybit | the two circles are balconies, one shows what the top looks like, the other shows what's below | 20:02 |
| any84775927 | can you financially afford balconies at this time? | 20:03 |
| ybit | it's not going to all be built at one time | 20:03 |
| any84775927 | oh | 20:04 |
| ybit | there's also a parking spaces, trees, and small gardesn decorating the outside to keep the view from being run-down | 20:04 |
| ybit | suggestions are welcome | 20:09 |
| ybit | btw, it's a little scary, it's taken nearly 24 hours to sync my imap server with gmail, last i checked it was on ~70 thousandth message | 20:10 |
| any84775927 | well, i dunno what humans want in any topic, so i don't know what they'd want in a machining facility | 20:11 |
| ybit | come on, you've studied our species long enough, you're bound to know a little about the humans :P | 20:14 |
| ybit | as i've mentioned to someone... i'm kind of going for a co-working hackerspace type place | 20:15 |
| any84775927 | regardless of being in here under a yr, i been alive over 1/2 a century, and i can still say i don't know | 20:15 |
| ybit | http://wiki.coworking.info/Make+a+VIDEO | 20:16 |
| ybit | (for those who might not be familiar with the term) | 20:16 |
| ybit | the presentation area is also a gaming zone or whatever the heck geeks want to do for fun | 20:17 |
| any84775927 | i recommend a line of sight from the bug-free eating space to the machine you left running, somoene at the door to accept food and parcel deliveries in your name, and lots of floor space to rearrange office and equipment | 20:17 |
| ybit | now that's something i forgot, clean rooms | 20:18 |
| ybit | can turn one of those photlith rooms in such a space | 20:18 |
| ybit | s/in/into | 20:18 |
| any84775927 | "bug-free" includes the indoor gardens, btw | 20:18 |
| ybit | yeah, i thought about plants such as the ones mentioned on some ted speech which produce oxygen and remove other stuff | 20:19 |
| any84775927 | and you haveto make it intrinsically impossible to put a 10 ton manufactuing equipment up on the balcony | 20:19 |
| ybit | hehe | 20:19 |
| any84775927 | yeas, reasearch indoor "waste" recycling to reduce recurring costs to city/county infrastructre | 20:20 |
| genehacker | spirulina be your plant | 20:20 |
| genehacker | for space | 20:20 |
| ybit | my dad and i were thinking about alternative energy sources | 20:20 |
| any84775927 | and you need a lan room and ups/generator room | 20:21 |
| ybit | any84775927: ah, the data server room as well | 20:21 |
| ybit | not sure what goes at the entrance just yet | 20:21 |
| any84775927 | feed from your solar panels to the ups batetries, which can override the incoming ac lines and power at least the smaller loads while the shun sines | 20:22 |
| any84775927 | i think i got the flues | 20:22 |
| ybit | my dad was thinking wind turbines, but as we both soon found out, that may be, um, a little expensive :P | 20:22 |
| any84775927 | yeas, and lightning attractors | 20:23 |
| ybit | data storage and ups/generator room.. ty any84775927 | 20:23 |
| any84775927 | <curtsey> | 20:25 |
| any84775927 | can i has a grahm cracker, please? | 20:25 |
| kanzure | reconfigurable walls please | 20:26 |
| any84775927 | i said that | 20:26 |
| any84775927 | and lots of floor space to rearrange office and equipment | 20:26 |
| kanzure | everything on pallets | 20:27 |
| any84775927 | err,,,, everything? | 20:27 |
| kanzure | including you | 20:27 |
| any84775927 | oh,, and no parking under the balconies, so robots running amuck and crashing down, won't ruin the new investor's Mercedes | 20:28 |
| ybit | reconfigurable walls, haven't seen them before, ty | 20:29 |
| any84775927 | everything remotely structural must take into account fire and thermal effects from fire | 20:30 |
| kanzure | picked it up from this guy that stalks me around austin | 20:30 |
| kanzure | he goes to all the conferences and events in austin that I do | 20:30 |
| kanzure | so we end up talking every once in a while | 20:30 |
| any84775927 | ybit, "reconfigurable walls" IS "wide open space so everything can be moved" | 20:30 |
| kanzure | his employer's hq's programmer's building is made of reconfigurable walls | 20:30 |
| genehacker | wait a minute | 20:30 |
| genehacker | robots running around? | 20:30 |
| genehacker | waht's happening? | 20:30 |
| kanzure | any84775927: no, you need walls for sound proofing everything | 20:30 |
| kanzure | genehacker: did you see that I have been doing surface reconstruction of meshes? | 20:31 |
| any84775927 | many many office spaces use cubicles with 5ft walls, but make all them moveable | 20:31 |
| kanzure | thought you'd get a kick out of that | 20:31 |
| genehacker | surface reconstruction? | 20:31 |
| kanzure | cubicles do not good walls for machine shops make | 20:31 |
| genehacker | awesome | 20:31 |
| kanzure | genehacker: yes, like "a point cloud -> 3D CAD" | 20:31 |
| genehacker | you making a robot car or a 3d scanner? | 20:32 |
| any84775927 | i agree, i was not limiting wall size, only sugegsting wide open spaces with no preconcieved limits wo that can me moved in them | 20:32 |
| genehacker | kanzure the next step is to use tri stereo cameras to make point clouds | 20:34 |
| kanzure | well right now I'm just doing a single boundary surface from a group of points | 20:34 |
| kanzure | I need to stick together multiple patches next | 20:35 |
| kanzure | *stich | 20:35 |
| kanzure | maybe we can finally get all these damn STL files fixed | 20:35 |
| kanzure | and deleted forever | 20:35 |
| genehacker | you know the robot car team might draft you if you can do it in real time | 20:37 |
| kanzure | huh, opencascade jython scripting for OCC 1.3? http://www.opencascade.org/about/news/issue62/ | 20:37 |
| kanzure | nobody will draft me | 20:37 |
| kanzure | they will just tell me they want to | 20:37 |
| kanzure | and then not.. | 20:37 |
| genehacker | well I don't think there is another darpa challenge | 20:45 |
| genehacker | so it's unlikely | 20:45 |
| any84775927 | but there is a darpa challenge, just not for driverless vehicles | 20:46 |
| any84775927 | they want a 4cu ft computer, using less than 60kw, that will top the supercomputer list | 20:47 |
| genehacker | are you participating in said challenge? | 20:50 |
| any84775927 | lol | 20:50 |
| any84775927 | i did think up a 300ps cycle time for sustained instructions in a risc cpu, but cannot figure how to get data/instructions to it from memory, and that's not a big noteworthy accomplishment anyhow at state-of-the-art levels | 20:51 |
| genehacker | is this for pattern recognition and stuff | 20:52 |
| any84775927 | ummm,,,, so? ok? and? huh? | 20:52 |
| genehacker | or just a general all purpose super computer? | 20:53 |
| any84775927 | still has the same data bandwidth problem | 20:53 |
| any84775927 | the darpa challenge? i didn't read up or rememeber it, it's outa my capability to compete in it | 20:53 |
| any84775927 | i believe, since it would haveto run the speed tests to place, it's generalpurpose | 20:54 |
| CIA-32 | skdb: kanzure * r 8633e31 /import_tools/ (STL_read.py STL_write.py stl.py): merged STL_read and STL_write into one file | 20:57 |
| kanzure | um | 21:06 |
| kanzure | http://projects.opencascade.org/cgi-bin/secure3dwb/foo.txt | 21:06 |
| kanzure | so who wants to guess what daniel's password is? | 21:06 |
| any84775927 | password | 21:07 |
| any84775927 | daniel ? | 21:07 |
| any84775927 | danielspasword ? | 21:07 |
| kanzure | http://www.stellarscience.com/improve_open_cascade.html | 21:10 |
| any84775927 | that's a hell of password | 21:11 |
| kanzure | no you should look at the file to see the password | 21:12 |
| genehacker | my password makes a really cool pattern when you look at in the unicode table space | 21:14 |
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| genehacker | kanzure are you using point cloud packages? | 21:29 |
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| ybit | http://filebin.ca/fydbrv/hackerspace.png and i'm spent for tonight | 21:42 |
| any84775927 | elevators | 21:45 |
| ybit | thought about it | 21:46 |
| ybit | that wouldn't be too hard to add into the drawing | 21:47 |
| any84775927 | unfortunately, thoughting about it won't get me or steven hawking up tot he balcony | 21:47 |
| ybit | i'm through with plans for the time being, now i need to budget out for all of this + equipment | 21:47 |
| ybit | but i happen to be a manly man with muscles, so problem solved ;) | 21:48 |
| ybit | alright, alright, elevators | 21:48 |
| any84775927 | yeas, but i don't feel like being carried | 21:48 |
| any84775927 | i'd rather sue you | 21:48 |
| ybit | :P | 21:48 |
| ybit | i couldn't carry you but maybe two steps anyway due to my back | 21:48 |
| ybit | back problems run in the family | 21:49 |
| * any84775927 nods | 21:49 | |
| kanzure | hey uhh | 21:57 |
| kanzure | where is cvsroot usually? | 21:57 |
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| kanzure | http://autoopencas.sourceforge.net/ hm.. | 22:05 |
| ybit | http://filebin.ca/ksrvgj/hackerspace.png only upon katsmeow's request. _no_more_ drawing for me tonight :P | 22:11 |
| bkero | THat's a bunch of space | 22:18 |
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| katsmeow | specially costly considering the 12 inch think concrete floors in the heavy machinery space | 22:19 |
| ybit | er, i had uploaded the wrong pic last time. http://filebin.ca/fvbvkc/hackerspace.png | 22:26 |
| ybit | 12 inches thick, aye? | 22:27 |
| katsmeow | less vibration! | 22:27 |
| ybit | ah | 22:27 |
| ybit | hmm | 22:27 |
| katsmeow | i once say a 6 inch slab at a Home Depot that bounced an inch when forklifts ran over it,, you could distort a lathe bed fast that way, i suspect | 22:28 |
| katsmeow | oh good, stairs this time too, no more rapelling :-) | 22:28 |
| katsmeow | you left out the library again | 22:29 |
| katsmeow | i am going to hurt IE,,, i could open png on win95b, and cannot on winxp, cusswords | 22:30 |
| katsmeow | ok, going to find dinner again | 22:31 |
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