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| fenn | Sponsored Results | 00:04 |
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| fenn | Solipsism Find solipsism and Compare prices at Smarter.com. | 00:04 |
| katsmeow-afk | lol | 00:04 |
| fenn | hmm google lively only lasted 5 months | 00:07 |
| fenn | good riddance | 00:07 |
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| fenn | i thought for sure i would recognize one of them http://planet.gnome.org/heads/ | 00:32 |
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| fenn | this is your biannual Second Life graphics data point http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_YpXOKHanSZo/Srg8fvs31fI/AAAAAAAAA0k/sneq9WNs6Rw/s1600-h/crystal_054.png | 00:49 |
| fenn | i think those speculars are textured on.. not so impressive | 00:49 |
| bkero | what | 00:49 |
| genehacker | and of course that'll load really slow | 00:52 |
| fenn | i keep expecting video games to look better but it's some kind of inverse moore's law | 00:53 |
| bkero | They look more brown | 00:53 |
| bkero | Lots of gray and brown | 00:53 |
| fenn | like the squaring of the number of pixels and overhead increases faster than the squaring of transistor density | 00:53 |
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| genehacker | is it reasonable for a person to run 400 meters in a minute? | 00:54 |
| fenn | yes | 00:54 |
| fenn | a fast person | 00:54 |
| bkero | win 44 | 00:55 |
| genehacker | crap | 00:56 |
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| bkero | Damn it | 01:20 |
| bkero | I'm trying to see how feasable it would be to use a cheap arduino system instead of a $300 megasquirt | 01:20 |
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| fenn | quite feasible i'd expect | 01:39 |
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| wrldpc2 | Good morning, hplusroadmap! | 06:24 |
| kanzure | morning | 07:42 |
| kanzure | http://diybookscanner.org/ | 08:15 |
| kanzure | wow not only is it "photos only" but it's "really large jpg photos only" | 08:18 |
| kanzure | how useless | 08:18 |
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| kanzure | hm paul is five hours away | 09:29 |
| kanzure | guess that's not going to happen | 09:29 |
| kanzure | also he's broke again apparently | 09:29 |
| kanzure | so does this feel natural enough for specifying dependencies? (package1 and package2) or (package3 and package4 and (gold ? mass > 20 kg & carrot < 2) | 09:31 |
| kanzure | ) | 09:31 |
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| kanzure | hello ChristianS | 10:20 |
| kanzure | see the /topic i guess | 10:20 |
| ChristianS | hi | 10:20 |
| kanzure | so, yeah, where conditions in pyparsing | 10:21 |
| kanzure | the idea is to pass off anything in the where clause to booleano | 10:22 |
| kanzure | and then construct the parse tree with a branch pointing over to booleano's parse tree | 10:22 |
| kanzure | heh "Getting started with pyparsing" (Paul McGuire) has some cooking examples that basically match the grammar i have going for dependency expressions | 10:30 |
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| kanzure | http://www.tno-projects.pqa.nl/sesti/wiki/ | 11:21 |
| kanzure | they paid 150 000 euros for that wiki | 11:21 |
| kanzure | (and apparently it doesn't even work) | 11:21 |
| kanzure | i dunno if i suck at converting between currencies or what, but that's nearly $150k USD | 11:21 |
| kanzure | for some bullshit wiki? | 11:22 |
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| Noahj | According to XE.com that's $218,121 | 11:25 |
| Noahj | What's it supposed to do? | 11:25 |
| Noahj | Ah, there's an about page | 11:26 |
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| Noahj | Yep, looks like a bunch 'o bullshit | 11:29 |
| Noahj | "A weak signal is an early indicator of future change" | 11:29 |
| Noahj | I doubt they'll be able to predict anything slashdot won't | 11:31 |
| kanzure | well they are a political organization apparently | 11:33 |
| kanzure | so they are trying to influence policymakers apparently | 11:33 |
| kanzure | apparently apparently apparently | 11:33 |
| Noahj | It kind of sounds like they're trying to solve the problem that when things change in some fundamental way it takes time to adjust by making those adjustments before things change | 11:35 |
| Noahj | But they'll probably change things fundamentally by making those adjustments whether those previously mentioned things that are going to change change they way they expected or not | 11:36 |
| Noahj | Also, they should read Foundation, I hear that's sort of the premise | 11:36 |
| kanzure | don't you have school | 11:38 |
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| Noahj | Fab academy's M-W-F | 11:42 |
| kanzure | fair enough | 11:50 |
| kanzure | is there any chance of you videotapping or making a transcript in real time? :) | 11:51 |
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| genehacker | http://www.popsci.com/military-aviation-amp-space/article/2009-09/iss-could-get-its-own-electron-beam-fabrication-3d-printer | 12:33 |
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| drazak | ybit and/or whomever: I have a farily basic list of required reagents and hardware/software(aka stuff you throw out) for a cell culture room | 14:49 |
| kanzure | where is it? | 14:49 |
| drazak | I have to type it up | 14:50 |
| drazak | gimme a minute and I will, I wrote it down last night | 14:50 |
| drazak | I need some food and some beverage in a minute, and then I'll type it up :) | 14:50 |
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| drazak | http://drazak.net/~drazak/tissue%20culture%20room%20equipment.ods | 15:56 |
| drazak | kanzure, genehacker ^^^^^ | 15:56 |
| kanzure | what are the tubes? | 16:02 |
| kanzure | don't they have a brand? | 16:02 |
| drazak | "pretty much" | 16:03 |
| drazak | they're all the same | 16:03 |
| drazak | as long as you have a centrifuge that has exchangeable rotors and comes with a set of 8 or 10 of them you can get whatever ones you want | 16:04 |
| drazak | BD sciences and corning are the major brands | 16:04 |
| drazak | the assorted microtubes is because there's like 8 different kinds I can think of off the top of my head that are useful for various thing | 16:04 |
| drazak | hm, I forgot incubators, didn't I? | 16:06 |
| kanzure | $200M/yr neurotech industry bill is going before congress http://www.neurotechindustry.org/takeaction.html | 16:10 |
| drazak | you guys can feel free to append if you think I'm missing anything | 16:10 |
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| kanzure | drazak: i'm not going to use that list because it's not useful to me | 16:16 |
| kanzure | let's see some catalog numbers | 16:16 |
| drazak | I will at some point | 16:16 |
| drazak | tonight or tomorrow | 16:16 |
| kanzure | another good start would be giving me the names of the catalogs | 16:17 |
| drazak | probably from sigma aldritch | 16:17 |
| drazak | sigma aldritch, invitrogen | 16:17 |
| drazak | those are the main ones | 16:17 |
| kanzure | yeah but those are companies not catalogs | 16:18 |
| drazak | wtf do you mean catalog? | 16:18 |
| kanzure | a catalog is what lists out what they have and the specs on what they have | 16:20 |
| drazak | link me to a biosciences catalog then :) | 16:20 |
| kanzure | wait i thought i was asking you? | 16:22 |
| drazak | there aren't catalogs in bioscience | 16:24 |
| kanzure | http://www.neurotechindustry.org/membership.html hah. $35k for a corporate membership. and there's this many? http://www.neurotechindustry.org/memberlist.html | 16:24 |
| drazak | not that I've found | 16:24 |
| kanzure | wtf | 16:24 |
| drazak | my uncles lab of 20 people ordered from the website and the product numbers there | 16:24 |
| drazak | we order from websites | 16:24 |
| kanzure | well yeah | 16:24 |
| kanzure | but that doesn't mean they don't have catalogs | 16:24 |
| kanzure | i'm not talking about dead tree catalogs | 16:24 |
| drazak | I haven't seen one yet | 16:24 |
| drazak | I know | 16:25 |
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| drazak | http://drazak.net/~drazak/tissue%20culture%20room%20equipment.ods incase you missed genehacker | 16:26 |
| kanzure | huh this gets interesting results: http://www.google.com/search?q="new+lab+start-up" | 16:28 |
| kanzure | like: http://www.mandel.ca/literature/Lab_Start_Up.html | 16:28 |
| kanzure | and this: http://www.jhu.edu/purchasing/jhuonly/checklist.html | 16:29 |
| drazak | sigman aldritch gives 50% off on most lifesciences products for new labs | 16:30 |
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| kanzure | heh: http://www.geocities.com/ptmcg/python/confs/adventureEngine.py | 17:42 |
| wrldpc2 | Brian, you still need that ride? I'd need to get a bit more data (airline.) | 17:48 |
| ybit | 23:58 < ybit> http://diybioforum.org/wiki/index.php?title=FAQ&oldid=186 :: pr0n spam! | 17:49 |
| ybit | 23:59 < ybit> where are these schematics fo a bci kanzure, from cosmeng | 17:49 |
| ybit | 11:22 < kanzure> i dunno if i suck at converting between currencies or what, but that's nearly $150k USD | 17:50 |
| ybit | that is definitely called sucking at conversions ;P | 17:50 |
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| kanzure | ybit: the schematics should be in the ~bbishop/docs/neuro/ folder | 18:01 |
| kanzure | i used google convert | 18:02 |
| ybit | good thing odt2txt exist or i'd have to install a 385mb package to read a 20k document | 18:03 |
| kanzure | it's not worth it | 18:04 |
| ybit | what isn't? | 18:04 |
| ybit | the conversion went smoothly | 18:04 |
| kanzure | drazak's document | 18:04 |
| ybit | i see | 18:04 |
| ybit | drazak: , iirc, kanzure has a document with this kind of stuff | 18:05 |
| ybit | pcr_inventory or something i i forget | 18:05 |
| ybit | (computer is slow just typing away without seeing it being displayed) | 18:05 |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/skdb/docs/BOMs/ | 18:05 |
| ybit | download the rest of dexter's lab | 18:05 |
| kanzure | er | 18:06 |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/skdb/doc/BOMs/ | 18:06 |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/skdb/doc/BOMs/pcr | 18:06 |
| drazak | ybit: that's pcr, this is for a tissue culture room to be almost fully equipped | 18:06 |
| drazak | I'm sure there's 2 or 3 things I'm forgetting | 18:06 |
| kanzure | http://deadlyai.org/ "society for the promotion of universal nonexistence through malicious ai" | 18:10 |
| drazak | aka skynet | 18:12 |
| wrldpc2 | Could someone relink the frequency spectrum allocation chart that was posted 4-6 days ago? | 18:37 |
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| ybit | wrldpc2: links from past ~4 weeks http://pastebin.ca/1588560 | 18:47 |
| wrldpc2 | ty | 18:48 |
| ybit | np, now who remembers the site which i hope i pasted in here, it helps you find chemicals on teh interwebs | 18:49 |
| kanzure | http://lifeboat.com/ex/bios.david.r.koepsell | 18:50 |
| ybit | if i pasted it, it was sometime last year | 18:50 |
| kanzure | http://quemot2.wordpress.com/2009/01/25/hello-world/ | 18:52 |
| ybit | interesting vid on superkuh's youpr0n channel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQn4wNa1EEY&feature=sdig&et=1254113097.05 | 18:54 |
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| kanzure | poor siberia | 19:02 |
| ybit | it seems the green trend kics in march 2004 :) | 19:03 |
| kanzure | superkuh: "ted smith" is complaining that your server is down. | 19:33 |
| superkuh | Oh. So it is. | 19:34 |
| superkuh | One moment. | 19:34 |
| kanzure | he also reminded me that i have a copy of my collections in korea on a fast connection: | 19:35 |
| kanzure | http://bio.cc/Bioinformics/papers/ | 19:35 |
| superkuh | Okay. Back up. I switched servers and forgot to switch the port forwarding. | 19:37 |
| ybit | superkuh: he also reminded kanzure to tell you to tell ybit a site for obtaining chemicals | 19:45 |
| * ybit is watching himself give a talk, odd. | 19:46 | |
| superkuh | ybit: Do you mean a supplier or a list of suppliers? | 19:46 |
| ybit | superkuh: either or | 19:46 |
| ybit | the one i'm thinking let me select between organic or inorganic chemicals | 19:47 |
| superkuh | http://www.hyperdeath.co.uk/chemicals/ | 19:47 |
| ybit | then i could search the list and it would give me a link to companies which provided it | 19:47 |
| ybit | arg! that be the one! wow, so it must have been you i shared it with? or maybe many people know of it | 19:48 |
| ybit | anywho, thanks superkuh. | 19:48 |
| superkuh | I've known of it for many years, since before it was a website and just existed on the sciencemaddness.org forums. | 19:49 |
| ybit | it's kind of funny and sad watching me realize that half the people listening to me talk either aren't interested or don't have a clue wtf i'm talking about | 19:49 |
| ybit | and i squirm /fidget a lot it seems | 19:50 |
| * ybit quits tweeting about himself | 19:50 | |
| ybit | oh, right, thanks superkuh x10, haven't been able to find that link in the logs (mostly because i'm still looking for the password for the main encrypted log file :P | 19:54 |
| ybit | has anyone went through http://grinding.be/ ..is it worth my time to sort through it at some point? | 20:19 |
| wrldpc2 | Why don't we do AI? | 20:20 |
| wrldpc2 | Barring the definitional obstacle of intelligence. | 20:20 |
| wrldpc2 | nvm | 20:21 |
| katsmeow-afk | what if you used your own definition of intelligence,, and what would that be? | 20:21 |
| wrldpc2 | I'd like to know what Bryan's definition is. | 20:21 |
| wrldpc2 | gmaps won't let me streetview through to la guardia. | 20:29 |
| wrldpc2 | it's wonky. | 20:30 |
| kanzure | my definition is that it's bullshit | 20:41 |
| kanzure | thanks for asking | 20:41 |
| kanzure | hm have you been? | 20:41 |
| wrldpc2 | to la guardia? | 20:50 |
| kanzure | yeah | 20:50 |
| wrldpc2 | no. | 20:50 |
| kanzure | alright then | 20:51 |
| kanzure | thanks for volunteering | 21:09 |
| kanzure | i threw this together for the profile page they wanted: http://adl.serveftp.org/~bryan/BryanBishop.html | 21:10 |
| kanzure | when i first saw pgp i thought they wanted my public key | 21:10 |
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| kanzure | hello Phreedom_ | 21:21 |
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| ybit | hmm | 21:27 |
| ybit | http://www.synbio.org.uk/hardware/diy-lab-equipment.html | 21:27 |
| kanzure | wow all of those suck | 21:28 |
| kanzure | except the magnetic stirrer | 21:28 |
| ybit | yeah yeah | 21:29 |
| ybit | they are also ~1.5 years old | 21:29 |
| fenn | wrldpc2: dunno if anyone replied.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrum_allocation | 21:30 |
| ybit | the future hackerspace/lab place here: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/Choghazanbil2.jpg | 21:45 |
| ybit | not really, but it is made out of mud :) | 21:45 |
| fenn | are you going to pull a marcin and make your own bricks? | 21:49 |
| ybit | considering it, right now, i'm gathering the costs of different building methods | 21:52 |
| ybit | http://small-scale.net/yearofmud/2009/08/21/you-can-build-this-cob-house-for-3000/ | 22:01 |
| ybit | for just $3k! o.O | 22:01 |
| ybit | that's awfully small to be spending 3k on | 22:02 |
| * ybit wonders how much it would cost to use the wood on the property | 22:02 | |
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| ybit | katsmeow-afk: you know of any state regulations of putting in your own plumbing, electricity, etc.? | 22:36 |
| kanzure | there's regulations for shops apparently | 22:36 |
| ybit | http://www.byohouse.com.au/projects/cost.htm | 22:42 |
| ybit | katsmeow-afk: you can shed some light on this, what kind of cost am i looking at for just a ~5k sq ft building? | 23:10 |
| * ybit should call http://www.clearspan.com/fabric/structures/home tomorrow | 23:11 | |
| ybit | i'm guesstimating $300k for just 3000sq ft | 23:20 |
| ybit | er, $250k for 4000sqft. | 23:21 |
| ybit | http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070716202952AAsgDrY the answer chosen is a 12k sq ft arena built for 40k, not including labor (which is free here) | 23:36 |
| ybit | how did they spend 20k to do most of the labor themselves... | 23:36 |
| ybit | tweet tweet tweet | 23:39 |
| * ybit tweets himself to bed | 23:39 | |
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