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| kanzure | hello nchaimov | 08:32 |
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| genehacker | kanzure on the .yaml files for skdb, could SKDB use the equations in the parameters section to solve for values in them? | 10:08 |
| genehacker | as in I put the equation s_fm= (kE^n)/(n+1) in the parameters | 10:09 |
| genehacker | change s to sigma | 10:09 |
| genehacker | could SKDB solve for n? | 10:10 |
| genehacker | if it was asked to? | 10:10 |
| genehacker | or do I need to write another equation for that? | 10:10 |
| genehacker | also, I'm beginning to think we really need a program that can read graphs | 10:11 |
| genehacker | anyway, I'm going to put a .yaml in for metal extrusion(cold for now, hot maybe) by the end of the day | 10:13 |
| genehacker | I'd also like to know how to tell SKDB that the yield stress of the extrusion die needs to be less than the extrusion pressure for extrusion to work | 10:15 |
| CIA-23 | skdb: kanzure * r c4b1362 /doc/ (compile_pythonOCC hacking): updated the installation guide to reflect pythonOCC 0.3 | 11:01 |
| CIA-23 | skdb: kanzure * r e33545e / (.gitignore config.yaml core/settings.py doc/hacking readme): revamped skdb settings and configuration to use config.yaml | 11:01 |
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| kanzure | yeah i want to do a demo/example of solving equations with parameters | 11:08 |
| kanzure | we've been using python "templates" to fill out equations with variables. example: http://adl.serveftp.org/skdb/packages/screw/screw.py | 11:09 |
| kanzure | pipette information | 11:09 |
| kanzure | ANSI/SBS 1-2004: Footprint Dimensions: http://www.sbsonline.com/msdc/pdf/ANSI_SBS_1-2004.pdf | 11:09 |
| kanzure | ANSI/SBS 2-2004: Height Dimensions: http://www.sbsonline.com/msdc/pdf/ANSI_SBS_2-2004.pdf | 11:09 |
| kanzure | ANSI/SBS 3-2004: Bottom Outside Flange Dimensions: http://www.sbsonline.com/msdc/pdf/ANSI_SBS_3-2004.pdf | 11:10 |
| kanzure | ANSI/SBS 4-2004: Well Positions: http://www.sbsonline.com/msdc/pdf/ANSI_SBS_4-2004.pdf | 11:10 |
| kanzure | there is 90 GB free on adl.serveftp.org (davinci). heybryan.org/books/Biology/ is 85 GB. what do people want on the server? | 11:18 |
| kanzure | Manufacturing is 25 GB | 11:21 |
| kanzure | http://mrflip.com/resources/austin/genie.JPG | 11:41 |
| kanzure | "teachers as sickness brokers for ADHD" http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.0030182 | 11:53 |
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| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/~bryan/component-list/component_terms.yaml | 12:37 |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/~bryan/component-list/interfaces.yaml | 12:37 |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/skdb/packages/lego/grammar.yaml | 12:43 |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/skdb/packages/lego/data.yaml | 12:43 |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/skdb/packages/screw/data.yaml | 12:43 |
| ybit | got to love how when you try to get a conversation back on track, it ends | 12:48 |
| ybit | (diy sem/fib) | 12:48 |
| ybit | maybe i'll post a few more things about it though | 12:49 |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/skdb/core/supplemental_units.dat | 12:49 |
| * ybit prefers cheetah over mako | 12:53 | |
| ybit | atm | 12:54 |
| kanzure | ybit: rsync has been configured on davinci, enjoy | 12:56 |
| kanzure | the rsync name is "papers" | 12:56 |
| kanzure | please use something like this: rsync --verbose --times --progress --stats --compress --rsh=/usr/bin/ssh --recursive --times --perms --links --delete --exclude "*bak" --exclude "*~" . bryan@adl:papers | 12:56 |
| kanzure | and you probably want to change the last two parameters | 12:57 |
| kanzure | actually, switch it the other way around | 12:57 |
| kanzure | ybit@adl.serveftp.org:papers /path/to/your/folder/ | 12:57 |
| ybit | gracias | 12:58 |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/papers/ for more fun | 12:58 |
| kanzure | doesn't seem to be working for me. | 13:12 |
| kanzure | i have new local files but it doesn't upload them? | 13:12 |
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| ybit | kanzure: is this you? http://groups.google.com/group/skdb/ | 13:35 |
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| Phreedom | hi guys | 13:42 |
| ybit | oi Phreedom | 13:47 |
| kanzure | ybit: not to my knowledge | 13:55 |
| ybit | odd | 14:02 |
| ybit | kanzure: first project being developed for skdb? | 14:10 |
| kanzure | my guess was thermocycler, but then i remembered dave rauchwerk's project | 14:10 |
| kanzure | in particular the whiteboard drawing pulley thinger | 14:11 |
| kanzure | i don't remember what these are technically identified as | 14:11 |
| kanzure | maybe "cool toy" | 14:11 |
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| ybit | kanzure: which thermocycler? | 14:20 |
| ybit | there have been so many mentioned on diybio | 14:20 |
| ybit | hi genehacker | 14:20 |
| kanzure | ybit: well, it would have a lightbulb | 14:27 |
| kanzure | hm why are these folks implementing STEP for an ARM processor? | 14:27 |
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| katsmeow-afk | how to get $875 million in usa .gov loans for your projects : 1) call them "electric vehicle oem", 2) read http://www.abcnews.go.com/Business/print?id=8901510 | 16:04 |
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| genehacker | kanzure, you wouldn't happen to have an inventory of tools in the ME machine shop would you | 17:38 |
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| kanzure | genehacker: no :( | 18:29 |
| genehacker | dang | 18:32 |
| genehacker | I forgot how to use the lathe | 18:33 |
| genehacker | or at least what lever does the feedrate | 18:33 |
| kanzure | the levers are stupid | 18:33 |
| kanzure | i couldn't stop laughing when the machinist was showing me it | 18:33 |
| genehacker | that lathe doesn't make sense | 18:34 |
| kanzure | aren't they all like that? | 18:35 |
| genehacker | anyway I want to make some stuff on the lathe | 18:38 |
| genehacker | oh shit | 18:38 |
| genehacker | I think I know why I was having trouble machining stuff | 18:39 |
| genehacker | I was trying to machine pure aluminium | 18:39 |
| genehacker | you know what I'm wondering? | 18:40 |
| genehacker | how the heck did they machine weird curved stuff before CNC machines and tracing machines? | 18:41 |
| kanzure | stan on diybio gave a nice PCR purification protocol.. but wouldn't the ethanol destroy the DNA? | 18:46 |
| kanzure | genehacker: a jig probably | 18:46 |
| kanzure | genehacker: feel free to take an inventory of the ME machine shop. | 18:47 |
| kanzure | it would also be pretty cool to know which brands/model-numbers they are using down their | 18:47 |
| ybit | no django, si? | 18:47 |
| ybit | all cherrypy now.. | 18:47 |
| genehacker | also, I think a reprap might be able to make anything indirectly | 18:47 |
| kanzure | ybit: yes, just cherrypy | 18:48 |
| genehacker | where's that PCR protocol? | 18:48 |
| kanzure | but to be honest that doesn't mean much[Bin an email from stan. it wasn't for PCR. | 18:48 |
| kanzure | blah | 18:48 |
| kanzure | in an email from stan. it was n't for PCR. | 18:48 |
| kanzure | jfajfadl;f so apparently i can't type | 18:49 |
| * ybit is wanting to work on the wiki and have it running tonight | 18:49 | |
| kanzure | which wiki? | 18:49 |
| ybit | was afk, | 18:49 |
| ybit | um.. didn't know there were more than one | 18:49 |
| genehacker | it looks like he wants to sell PCR stuf | 18:49 |
| ybit | the skdb wiki?... | 18:50 |
| genehacker | also, drazak said that the problem with pcr is getting it consistent | 18:50 |
| kanzure | so which part is going to be all "wikied out" and which part isn't? | 18:50 |
| ybit | ya know, what djangit was supposed to be | 18:50 |
| kanzure | the way that i was thinking of doing it was let different views exist on site.com/package/lego/blah/yaml | 18:50 |
| kanzure | and then you could do something like: site.com/package/lego/blah/edit | 18:50 |
| kanzure | well i don't know if every page is supposed to be editable or not | 18:50 |
| kanzure | it would certainly rock if that was the case but | 18:51 |
| kanzure | consider editing python over the web maybe | 18:51 |
| ybit | that would be a pita | 18:51 |
| kanzure | perhaps that's not the best idea? since that would let them load up code immediately | 18:51 |
| kanzure | and to be honest, i don't think anyone is going to dump instructions like that anyway :p | 18:51 |
| kanzure | maybe they will. who knows. | 18:52 |
| kanzure | what if we let people upload instructions in a cheetah template | 18:52 |
| kanzure | this way, parametric instructions are still possible (since cheetah can have some logic embedded in it) | 18:53 |
| kanzure | ideally the logic would never be in the template but i don't think this is going to be the case | 18:53 |
| kanzure | oh wait, i forgot | 18:54 |
| drazak | /q genehacker | 18:54 |
| drazak | er, sorry | 18:54 |
| kanzure | so yeah, let them upload whatever they want there | 18:54 |
| kanzure | package maintainers can come by and scoop it and polish it up | 18:54 |
| kanzure | anywho, i don't know how to relate this to the wiki model | 18:55 |
| kanzure | yes everyone should be able to edit any piece of data in any package if they want to | 18:56 |
| kanzure | no, not everyone wants to use your stupid changes to the cnc machine package | 18:58 |
| kanzure | (gah got disconnected) | 18:58 |
| kanzure | so how do you sandbox changes but let certain users pick certain commits for their usage? | 18:59 |
| kanzure | say you go in and you edit the lego package | 18:59 |
| kanzure | and you want to add a new custom lego piece to the lego package library of parts | 19:00 |
| kanzure | now, you might be a total moron (or you might not be) and you add something | 19:00 |
| kanzure | a package maintainer, sometime in the unknown future, would come by and yell at you and totally laugh at it | 19:00 |
| kanzure | the reason you put it there in the first place was so that you could use it | 19:00 |
| kanzure | so supposedly you want to go include it in another project maybe | 19:00 |
| kanzure | and using the skdb package creation wizard (which doesn't exist yet) i guess you would specify the commit hash of your latest changes to it? how would this work | 19:01 |
| kanzure | i guess it could be like github: you clone/fork the entire part, and then make your changes, and refer to your clone | 19:03 |
| kanzure | different distributions will have different versions of parts | 19:03 |
| kanzure | so "skdb main" will have whatever the skdb package maintenance task force super team decides is "suitable for use" | 19:03 |
| kanzure | but others might want to use a distribution of parts that are from the bleeding edge of the iron presses | 19:04 |
| kanzure | site.com/distrib/main/, site.com/distrib/kanzure/screw/catalog/yaml, and then site.com/package/screw/catalog/yaml would really be like going to site.com/distrib/main/ | 19:05 |
| kanzure | ok cool | 19:05 |
| kanzure | can anyone poke a hole in that | 19:06 |
| kanzure | the "distribution" would be specified in the package metadata. "this package is part of the __blah__ distribution" (in less words) | 19:06 |
| ybit | " the skdb package maintenance task force super team" made me laugh :) | 19:11 |
| * ybit was playing around with hatta just now | 19:11 | |
| ybit | trying to figure out the default template to work for our needs | 19:12 |
| kanzure | default template is "plain text" my friend.. | 19:12 |
| kanzure | why would people use this site again? | 19:15 |
| kanzure | do people actually use thingiverse for anything? jeebus | 19:20 |
| kanzure | genehacker: why do you use thingiverse | 19:22 |
| kanzure | "I used to tell people I was majoring in 'nuclear forestry' and watch | 19:25 |
| kanzure | their faces puzzle over that. " | 19:25 |
| ybit | the only reason i come back to a site is a:) i've yet to download it or b:) i'm too lazy to open a terminal | 19:25 |
| kanzure | ybit: have you ever met a machinist? | 19:25 |
| ybit | and i just feel like clicking away for a few mins | 19:25 |
| kanzure | a real one | 19:25 |
| ybit | yeah :) | 19:25 |
| kanzure | (not like fenn) | 19:25 |
| kanzure | they can't even open a file | 19:26 |
| ybit | yup | 19:26 |
| kanzure | so, again, why are people using thingiverse | 19:26 |
| ybit | then again there are machinists on linuxcnc and cnczone | 19:26 |
| kanzure | i said not like fenn :) | 19:26 |
| ybit | then there are a bunch of fenn clones running around the web it seems | 19:27 |
| kanzure | cnczone is a weird anomaly, where woodworkers intersect the internet or something and signals cross (things explode) | 19:27 |
| kanzure | why are people using instructables, for that matter | 19:27 |
| kanzure | oh lookie i have a giant fucking <textarea> oh i know i'll paste instructions! | 19:27 |
| * ybit is making the site look purty with css | 19:28 | |
| kanzure | ybit: hey could you make a default package view mockup for the lego or screw package? | 19:29 |
| kanzure | feel free to include a random png image or something, you can assume that my iges2png and stl2web scripts work | 19:29 |
| kanzure | (dangerous assumptions huh) | 19:29 |
| kanzure | preferably by basing your data off off of metadata.yaml in those packages | 19:30 |
| ybit | kanzure: maybe tomorrow, today i'm going to put up a site and you are going to either hate it or just go along with it (or maybe a combo of the two) | 19:31 |
| ybit | either way, it's going to need some editing | 19:31 |
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| kanzure | hello metarife | 22:05 |
| El_Matarife | oh hey man | 22:49 |
| El_Matarife | Didn't notice you said anything | 22:49 |
| El_Matarife | You see what I said in #EMC? | 22:50 |
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