| --- Day changed Thu Nov 19 2009 | ||
| kanzure | trey was in here yesterday wanting to do an open source hardware semiconductor fab on the cheap | 00:00 |
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| kanzure | they should have met each other | 00:00 |
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| genehacker | not sure if you could do a semiconductor fab on the cheap | 00:00 |
| kanzure | cheap is relative | 00:00 |
| genehacker | unless you could do high vacuum stuff on the cheap | 00:00 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | this guy is crazy awesome: http://www.ph.utexas.edu/classes/coker/ | 00:00 |
| kanzure | most of the time the fabs cost billions of time | 00:00 |
| genehacker | oh | 00:00 |
| kanzure | yeah i took coker | 00:00 |
| kanzure | half the class was laughing /at/ him half the time | 00:01 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | he taught me a lot of magic tricks | 00:01 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | haha, yeah | 00:01 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | he's a character | 00:01 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | looks like dumbledore from the harry potter series | 00:01 |
| genehacker | oh yeah? well my materials processing professor shattered a raquetball today just to demonstrate what the glass transistion temperature is | 00:01 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | nice | 00:02 |
| genehacker | *with liquid nitrogen | 00:02 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | love me some liquid nitrogen | 00:02 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | my brother's friend who was a phd in chem engineering stole a bunch of chemicals to start a meth lab | 00:03 |
| kanzure | is that how they get started? | 00:03 |
| kanzure | i've been wondering | 00:03 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | must be | 00:03 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | i've heard they're an interesting bunch of people | 00:03 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | meth addicts and chem engineering phd's that is | 00:04 |
| genehacker | because you want to steal some chemicals to make chemicals to make synthetic DNA? | 00:04 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | that would be neat | 00:04 |
| kanzure | jasonwohlfahrt: check this out re: meth labs. http://groups.google.com/group/diybio/browse_thread/thread/b307b22b6a745335 | 00:04 |
| genehacker | oh I know meth lab on a chip | 00:05 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | interesting | 00:05 |
| genehacker | it'll be easier for the police to seize | 00:05 |
| kanzure | let's just start with nootropics on a chip or myostatin inhibitors | 00:06 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | my brother used to be into ketamine | 00:06 |
| kanzure | excellent | 00:06 |
| kanzure | he sounds interesting | 00:06 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | he and his roomate would go into a "k hole" and watch entire seasons of buffy the vampire slayer | 00:07 |
| genehacker | ugh | 00:07 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | not exactly the best show | 00:07 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | probably much better in a k hole | 00:08 |
| kanzure | wonder what's up with my server | 00:08 |
| genehacker | what's wrong? | 00:09 |
| kanzure | not loading | 00:09 |
| kanzure | it's sitting right next to me humming away | 00:10 |
| kanzure | ybit: i find it funny that thomas basically said the same thing i did. "your paths are wrong" :) can i say i told you so? | 00:10 |
| kanzure | jasonwohlfahrt: if you get bored and want to read some awesome science, try this out: http://bio.cc/Bioinformics/papers/ it's a dump of papers i've been reading | 00:12 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | cool, I'm always looking for more awesome science articles | 00:12 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | today I had a burst of creativity and started formulating a theory that explains how the universe works | 00:13 |
| kanzure | "it does not" | 00:13 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | exactly | 00:13 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | if you have any good papers on the models of the universe, please share | 00:14 |
| kanzure | hm i might have some on complexity science somewhere | 00:14 |
| kanzure | lots of stuff by lee smolin | 00:14 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | cool, ill look him up | 00:15 |
| kanzure | http://www.edge.org/documents/ThirdCulture/z-Ch.17.html | 00:15 |
| kanzure | chapter 17 lee smolin "a theory of the whole universe" | 00:15 |
| genehacker | the whole universe? | 00:16 |
| kanzure | nah just 1/2 of it | 00:16 |
| genehacker | I'd rather the basic governing equations so I can engineer it to do stuff for me | 00:16 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | interesting | 00:16 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | complexity theory is a huge interest of mine | 00:17 |
| kanzure | another good author in this area is stan salthe | 00:17 |
| genehacker | predict the drag on a 747 to within 50% of the actual value | 00:17 |
| kanzure | http://www.nbi.dk/~natphil/salthe/ | 00:17 |
| kanzure | oops i'm violating a big rule in here | 00:18 |
| kanzure | one of the biggest standing rules is "no philosophy" | 00:18 |
| kanzure | even though we mostly agree on the fundamentals of complexity theory and so on | 00:18 |
| kanzure | (we mostly spend time doing stuff) | 00:18 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | cool | 00:18 |
| kanzure | or, alternatively, i spend a lot of time yelling at ybit to do stuff | 00:19 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | maybe we can discuss philosophy tomorrow | 00:19 |
| kanzure | rawr, ybit! | 00:19 |
| kanzure | hm i need to go make some dinner and fall asleep | 00:19 |
| kanzure | bbl | 00:19 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | me too, see ya tomorrow sir. nice chatting with you, genehacker | 00:19 |
| genehacker | I may not be able to see you tomorrow | 00:20 |
| genehacker | or are you just meeting with bryan? | 00:20 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | i'm down for meeting whoever | 00:20 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | i'm meeting bryan tomorrow | 00:20 |
| kanzure | genehacker: saturday is the event | 00:20 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | what your name, btw | 00:20 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | I'm just wondering if ive met you before | 00:21 |
| genehacker | not quite sure if I've met you | 00:21 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | I guess well meet up on saturday then | 00:22 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | see you soon | 00:22 |
| genehacker | indeed | 00:23 |
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| kanzure | fenn: do you want to reply to marcin or should i? | 11:11 |
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| ybit_ | right... here's an annoying story... my brother needed a keyboard, and i thought he was going to grab my spare keyboard but he grabbed the one on my computer... and it turns out the spare keyboard has keys which don't work themselves so i can't login and it seems my ssh daemon is down, grr | 12:17 |
| ybit_ | sent a request to freecycle and some friends, here's hoping i get a working keyboard immediately after work | 12:18 |
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| fenn | i wonder if dyndns is just fucking with me | 14:54 |
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| ybit | fenn, kanzure what do you have your paths set to? | 15:45 |
| ybit | in pythonOCC-0.3/src/wrapper/environment.py | 15:46 |
| ybit | OCC_INC = '/usr/include/opencascade'^M OCC_LIB = '/usr/lib' | 15:47 |
| ybit | and OCC_LIB = '/usr/lib'here | 15:47 |
| ybit | i also made all instances of OCC_LIB /usr/include/opencascade as well | 15:48 |
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| ybit | my computer is louder than my music blasting through the speakers | 17:48 |
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| jasonwohlfahrt | should be over to your place between 6:30 and 7:00, @kanzure | 17:54 |
| ybit | jasonwohlfahrt: in irc, we use the convention i used just now :) | 17:59 |
| ybit | if you have a decent irc client, you just type the minimum number of characters of the username for it to be unique and then just presstab | 18:00 |
| ybit | but i suppose the @username convention could be used | 18:00 |
| ybit | i've also seen username, at the beginning and [username] at the end | 18:01 |
| ybit | so ignore me? | 18:01 |
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| kanzure | hello | 18:50 |
| ybit | hi | 18:51 |
| kanzure | i think you should read the notes that fenn and i have written for installing pythonocc | 18:51 |
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| ybit | sorry i couldn't resist: http://ybit.ath.cx/images/skdb-tshirts.png | 19:58 |
| ybit | i followed the skdb install notes | 20:03 |
| ybit | did the sed replacement for environment.py, still same results | 20:03 |
| ybit | maybe i need to replace something in my .bashrc | 20:03 |
| genehacker | let's make the t-shirt design after we make the website ok? | 20:18 |
| ybit | bah | 20:20 |
| ybit | i think the website just needs to be a hatta wiki | 20:20 |
| ybit | i'm not too concerned about its apperance and creating tshirt mockups is so flippin simple, it's why i couldn't resist | 20:20 |
| ybit | wish i could say the same about building pythonocc, grr | 20:21 |
| kanzure | hatta is only good for hg repositories | 20:24 |
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| ybit | legoland, near irvine: http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=iceweasel-a&q=Carlsbad,+CA&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=Carlsbad,+CA&gl=us&ei=0BQGS7CWFo7p8Qb3h4jCCw&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CBIQ8gEwAA | 22:04 |
| ybit | http://www.legoland.com/california.htm | 22:05 |
| ybit | does lego.com have a listing of lego numbers? | 22:05 |
| kanzure | no :( | 22:06 |
| kanzure | you can find a catalog here: http://adl.serveftp.org/lab/legos/master-catalog.txt | 22:06 |
| ybit | ldraw has id numbers in its catalog which is helpful | 22:06 |
| kanzure | check out that file, ybit | 22:06 |
| ybit | got it | 22:06 |
| genehacker | excellent, shall we release the lego replicator there and begin the plan? | 22:07 |
| ybit | first time to come across: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A*_search_algorithm | 22:07 |
| kanzure | matt talks about a* constantly :( | 22:07 |
| genehacker | is saturday the day? | 22:08 |
| ybit | thanks for action.py | 22:19 |
| kanzure | that sounds random | 22:20 |
| kanzure | why what's up? | 22:20 |
| ybit | nothing it was one of the more interesting reads this past hour | 22:24 |
| ybit | i keep flipping between .deb and assembly instructions | 22:24 |
| * kanzure flips ybit like a pancake | 22:25 | |
| kanzure | *hiissss* | 22:25 |
| genehacker | so saturday is the meetup day? | 22:25 |
| kanzure | oh | 22:25 |
| kanzure | yes | 22:25 |
| ybit | i burn easily, i wouldn't make a good pancake | 22:25 |
| genehacker | I'll bring a powerstrip | 22:25 |
| kanzure | thanks genehacker | 22:25 |
| genehacker | extenstion radius is 25ft | 22:26 |
| kanzure | genehacker: call 830-237-7348 (jason from yesterday) for a ride later | 22:26 |
| ybit | wow, that's a long powerstrip | 22:26 |
| genehacker | I think it's 25ft | 22:28 |
| genehacker | bought it awhile back trying to optimize my dorm room for max efficiency | 22:28 |
| * kanzure read "dork room" | 22:29 | |
| genehacker | the idea was to move the refrigerator on top of a bookcase type thing to gain some more area, but this proved to be impractical | 22:30 |
| genehacker | you wouldn't be able to tell it was a dork room by looking at it | 22:31 |
| genehacker | but my room mate is an ME... | 22:31 |
| ybit | Man Builds a Full-Sized LEGO House [18 Pics]. He used bricks pieced together by 272 LEGOs. Over 3,000,000 bricks were used so that’s about 816,000,000 LEGO pieces. | 22:44 |
| ybit | http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=43295 | 22:44 |
| genehacker | are they glued together? | 22:45 |
| ybit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV19wqtfyF0 | 22:51 |
| ybit | ^ An incredible knitting machine built entirely out of Lego blocks. | 22:51 |
| genehacker | oh that one? | 22:51 |
| genehacker | I could watch that for days | 22:51 |
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| genehacker | FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK | 23:00 |
| genehacker | guess who was here on campus today kanzure? | 23:00 |
| genehacker | John W. Szostak | 23:00 |
| genehacker | damn | 23:00 |
| genehacker | had a class anyway | 23:01 |
| genehacker | *jack | 23:01 |
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| kanzure | szostak was on campus? | 23:05 |
| kanzure | wah | 23:05 |
| kanzure | well i missed stallman when he showed up | 23:06 |
| kanzure | so whatever | 23:06 |
| genehacker | damn | 23:06 |
| genehacker | too bad those creationist people didn't show up today | 23:06 |
| genehacker | Szostak could have owned them | 23:06 |
| genehacker | oh wait just about anyone who knows anything can | 23:07 |
| ybit | sharpie microfluidics application: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajz8dJzjBWE&NR=1 | 23:29 |
| ybit | lego cd writer | 23:29 |
| genehacker | wouldn't that be an application of the lego cd writer? | 23:31 |
| genehacker | no polar corrections lame | 23:32 |
| ybit | automated lego warehouse: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2837375/automated_lego_warehouse/ | 23:32 |
| genehacker | damn that video is too short | 23:34 |
| genehacker | so awesome though... | 23:34 |
| ybit | lego "air conditioner" http://web.archive.org/web/20060412183344/http://www.nathanbrickartist.com/carrier_convention.html | 23:34 |
| ybit | and http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2006/03/air_conditioner_make_out.html | 23:35 |
| genehacker | doesn't work | 23:35 |
| ybit | http://www.noob.us/entertainment/lego-mindstorms-automatic-car-assembler/ | 23:36 |
| genehacker | shame there aren't metal legos | 23:36 |
| ybit | lego automatic car assembler ^ | 23:36 |
| genehacker | AS SEEN IN KINEMATIC SELF-REPLICATING MACHINES | 23:36 |
| ybit | and yet more automated assembly videos, i just want to know if there are cad files or assembly instructions for these machines somewhere | 23:41 |
| ybit | Lego Technic | 23:42 |
| genehacker | you could make them... | 23:42 |
| genehacker | build from the pictures | 23:43 |
| genehacker | surely you've tried to build lego models just by looking at what's on the box haven't you? | 23:43 |
| ybit | of course, but i never did legos | 23:44 |
| genehacker | WHAT? | 23:44 |
| genehacker | oh dear | 23:44 |
| genehacker | well you must download at least several technic packets to your matter compiler immediately | 23:45 |
| genehacker | from SKDB | 23:45 |
| genehacker | oh wait | 23:45 |
| genehacker | we can't do that yet | 23:45 |
| genehacker | anyway what's blocking us from hosting lego models on SKDB, the file format right? | 23:45 |
| kanzure | we already do lego models | 23:46 |
| genehacker | ok why don't you have all basic technic in there? | 23:49 |
| kanzure | because we don't have technic pieces | 23:49 |
| kanzure | only a few basic lego models | 23:49 |
| genehacker | that isn't useful | 23:50 |
| kanzure | well make some more | 23:50 |
| genehacker | what do you mean make some more? | 23:50 |
| genehacker | in LCAD or what not? | 23:50 |
| genehacker | ok I'll do so over the break and upload them | 23:50 |
| kanzure | in heekscad | 23:50 |
| genehacker | in heekscad? | 23:51 |
| kanzure | yes please | 23:52 |
| kanzure | save as IGES or STEP | 23:52 |
| kanzure | _not_ STL | 23:52 |
| genehacker | lego models or lego bricks? | 23:54 |
| kanzure | what's the difference? | 23:56 |
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