2009-12-04.log

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kanzurejasonwohlfahrt: hey i have a ride tomorrow btw00:38
kanzurei'll call you tomorrow before 10 just to let you know00:39
kanzureyou're probably not here :)00:39
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kanzureMeeting the challenge of building diamondoid medical nanorobots http://adl.serveftp.org/papers/Meeting%20the%20challenge%20of%20building%20diamondoid%20medical%20nanorobots.pdf01:15
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kanzurehello Juul_ 01:17
kanzurehttp://adl.serveftp.org/~bryan/screenshots/2009-12-04_hplus-summit-2009-slide1.png <-- we're going to rock the house on saturday :)01:18
Juul_hey01:18
Juul_:D01:18
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QuantumGhttp://theop11.chem.elte.hu/main_index_files/2004_Tajti_HEAT_JCP_121_11599.pdf01:30
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fennsense/control/modify positive feedback loop03:18
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fenna04:05
fenn"productive recursion is what transhumanism is all about"04:05
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fenncivilization: provides for basic human needs (food shelter companionship), imposes structure on reality (worldview, assiilate minerals, roads, containers), contains information (laws, skill/tradition, style)04:35
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kanzurewebcast: http://www.techzulu.com/live.html for saturday09:51
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-!- kanzure changed the topic of #hplusroadmap to: http://adl.serveftp.org/dokuwiki/skdb watch us live on saturday december 5th at http://www.techzulu.com/live.html for http://hplus.eventbrite.com/ hplus summit 200910:10
genehackerdang, DLP chips are made with semiconductor old hardware10:12
genehackerlike 80s or 70s era hardware10:12
kanzuregenehacker: you going to watch us present?10:14
genehackerwhen where?10:58
genehackeryes10:58
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katsmeow-afksnowing in Houston , Tx atm11:29
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genehackernot snowing here yet11:45
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genehackerhmmm...15:28
genehackerapparently there's a free orbital fileserver15:28
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genehackerit doesn't have much storage, but it's up there16:08
genehackerit's a cubesat too16:08
genehackernow if you could only put more up there and start torrenting files from space...16:08
Utopiahwhat laws apply to it?16:10
Utopiahshould it go in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_haven :-# ?16:12
genehackerI don't know I'm not a lawyer16:14
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genehackerbut it's a cube sat16:16
genehackera tiny satellite16:16
QuantumGspacecraft are governed by the rules of the launching country.16:39
genehackerthen what if I launch the spacecraft from the ocean?17:14
QuantumG1. you have to file paperwork for every launch, and in that paperwork you have to nominate a country17:20
QuantumG2. there's procedures in international treaty for unregulated launches17:21
QuantumG(aka, the guy with the biggest gun wins)17:21
genehackerwhat if I designate sealand as the country?17:23
genehackerwhat are the procedures for unregulated launches17:23
QuantumGclearly you can't just designate any country you want.17:23
QuantumGthe procedures are that people with nukes get mad at you and chase you around the globe until they can put you in a little box with bars on it.17:24
genehackerwell the thing to do is use that mockingbird thing to fake a nuclear attack on some country if you ever get put in a box17:25
genehackerone of it's intended uses is to look like a MIRV17:25
QuantumGsounds like a great way to get your box put into a bigger box17:25
genehackeryeah17:26
genehackerI guess one could just get a nuke and claim to only use it as a deterrent17:28
QuantumGI'm more interested in whether or not the nuclear boogie man has been sufficiently put to sleep that civil aviation could start to include intercontinental ballistic trajectories without getting shot out of the sky.17:30
genehackerthe thing about a fake nuclear attack is that it's impossible to tell if it's fake17:35
QuantumGI dunno if you understand how nuclear warning systems work17:38
QuantumG.. but its not like in the movies :)17:38
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QuantumGhttp://www.gaussian.com/g_prod/g09.htm19:19
QuantumGmajor difference between the academic and the commercial use prices19:19
QuantumG.. and of course, there's no "non-commercial but not academic use" license.19:19
QuantumGbut I guess that's what bittorrent is for.19:33
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