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| kanzure | http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2009/12/is-it-too-late-to-catch-up.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+typepad%2Fsethsmainblog+(Seth%27s+Blog)&utm_content=Twitter | 09:24 |
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| kanzure | don't really agree with his last three sentences about "the problem is no longer access to tools" although he might just be talking about web stuff (although he mentions a drill press one sentence previously) | 09:25 |
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| JayDugger | Ex-Chat? | 09:34 |
| JayDugger | Re: Seth Godin's post. My employer threatened me with legal and disciplinary action for merely posting photos of a piece of machinery. | 09:35 |
| JayDugger | Good thing I knew where we'd buried bodies, so to speak. | 09:36 |
| JayDugger | I do like that final sentence, though. | 09:36 |
| kanzure | oh shit, for posting photos of machinery? | 09:37 |
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| kanzure | was it on your public blog? | 09:37 |
| JayDugger | My no longer public blog, and Flickr, yes. | 09:39 |
| JayDugger | My lawyer said they'd no real case, but I lacked money to go to court. | 09:39 |
| JayDugger | Has anyone mentioned book rippers at the conference? | 09:40 |
| JayDugger | Homemade book scanning machines; e.g., http://bkrpr.org/doku.php | 09:42 |
| kanzure | hm doesn't seem to flip pages | 09:48 |
| JayDugger | Yes. Good thing the design has room for improvement. Otherwise the project would have less interest. | 09:50 |
| JayDugger | And page turning matters. Doing that manually slows down and makes unreliable the whole process. | 09:55 |
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| kanzure | JayDugger: IIRC, xerox copying machines (used in high schools etc.) have an input feed | 10:01 |
| kanzure | so if you unbind the pages then stick it in, all should be good | 10:01 |
| JayDugger | They do. That has problems. | 10:02 |
| kanzure | but for some reason i don't see that often | 10:02 |
| kanzure | do you know what these problems are? | 10:02 |
| JayDugger | First. I want PDFs or TIFFs, not photocopies. | 10:02 |
| kanzure | yes they give PDFs | 10:02 |
| kanzure | or if they don't it's an easy fix | 10:02 |
| JayDugger | Some copiers will do that, but I haven't access to one. | 10:02 |
| JayDugger | Second, unbinding a book takes a great deal of work. | 10:02 |
| JayDugger | It also destroys the book's resale value. | 10:02 |
| kanzure | no there's a quick way to unbind with a giant piece of .. er. metal | 10:03 |
| JayDugger | If I spend, or have, a book worth real money, I might not want to make a sacrificial scan. | 10:03 |
| kanzure | let me remember. there's lots of stuff on ebay | 10:03 |
| JayDugger | A paper cutter? A knife? | 10:03 |
| kanzure | a paper cutter of sorts | 10:03 |
| kanzure | it's basically a knife yes | 10:03 |
| kanzure | but anyway it's made for unbinding huge books | 10:03 |
| kanzure | yes it's unfortunate that you have to destroy the binding | 10:04 |
| JayDugger | Ah. I didn't know specialized tools existed for that. | 10:04 |
| kanzure | what do you think about mechanical page turning? | 10:04 |
| JayDugger | I'd like to try it. | 10:04 |
| kanzure | i've seen an implementation before, but it wasn't made for scanning | 10:04 |
| JayDugger | I've worn out sheet feeders. | 10:04 |
| JayDugger | Scraps of binding glue, paper dust, and just good old wear-and-tear. | 10:05 |
| kanzure | it was made for disabled or challenged individuals, so it had this piece of tape to stick to the page, and then this was attached to a metal rod ("the arm") | 10:05 |
| JayDugger | I don't know how scanning services work around these problems. I suspect they throw manual labor at the problem. | 10:06 |
| JayDugger | Google might sit on a neat patent or two, but I've not looked. | 10:06 |
| JayDugger | Do you recall the name of that page turner? | 10:07 |
| kanzure | yes, one moment. | 10:07 |
| kanzure | "ez reader" | 10:07 |
| kanzure | it's totally proprietary, but here's the CAD files: http://adl.serveftp.org/~bryan/ezreaderfiles.zip | 10:07 |
| JayDugger | Thank you. | 10:08 |
| JayDugger | Here's a $3800 page turner. http://www.tfeinc.com/shop/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=20 | 10:13 |
| JayDugger | $3400 if you buy a used model. | 10:13 |
| JayDugger | This one only costs $1550. http://adl.serveftp.org/~bryan/ezreaderfiles.zip | 10:14 |
| JayDugger | Whoops. http://www.touchturner.com/pricing_info.htm | 10:14 |
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| kanzure | #openhardware quote "arduino makes hardware easyware" | 11:18 |
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| Utopiah | (for the person who shared a link on stigmergic collaboration a while ago : http://nyreelemmens.weebly.com/publications.html Stigmergic Landmark Foraging by Nyree Lemmens and Karl Tuyls, Autonomous Agents and Multi-Agent Systems AAMAS 2009) | 12:22 |
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| kanzure | http://blog.langtonlabs.org/ | 12:50 |
| kanzure | http://anselmlevskaya.com/ | 12:50 |
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| kanzure | chinese artificial brain agency? | 13:47 |
| Utopiah | their FPGA project? | 13:47 |
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| ybit | kanzure: what book is he talking about? | 14:23 |
| ybit | something about evolution... | 14:23 |
| ybit | here is one mentioned at the break room: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakpoint_%28novel%29 | 14:27 |
| ybit | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakpoint_(novel) ..cleaner link | 14:27 |
| ybit | will get around to posting an entire list of novels later today | 14:28 |
| ybit | re: chinese a.i. agency... yeah... i was talking with goertzel last night, he's wanting to do the 'red brain' in china | 14:39 |
| kanzure | i like the paypal virus | 14:41 |
| kanzure | bbl | 14:41 |
| QuantumG | ahh Goertzel | 15:19 |
| QuantumG | he's addicted to non-english speaking dev teams.. I'm guessing they are more easily dazzled by his semantic arguments. | 15:19 |
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| ybit | the webcast or the videos and feel kinship with the people who attended the conference. | 17:28 |
| ybit | Privacy Type: | 17:28 |
| ybit | grr | 17:28 |
| ybit | Open: All content is public. | 17:28 |
| ybit | http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=116665879990 | 17:28 |
| ybit | Description: Attendees of the H+ Summit 2009 held Dec. 5 and 6 at EON Reality, Irvine, California, created by Humanity Plus (http://www.humanityplus.org) in cooperation with Mindshare Labs http://www.mindshare-labs.com). | 17:29 |
| kanzure | well i lost my phone | 17:56 |
| kanzure | it's somewhere on a beach off the coast of los angeles | 17:57 |
| kanzure | what's a "lamborghini"? apparently i was in one | 17:58 |
| QuantumG | its a car | 18:07 |
| QuantumG | typically red | 18:07 |
| QuantumG | made by italians, driven by wankers | 18:07 |
| kanzure | someone here is telling me that they cost a lot? | 18:15 |
| QuantumG | ya, they do | 18:15 |
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| QuantumG | but they have terrible resale value, so its possible to get older models for cheap. | 18:15 |
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| genehacker | whoa | 18:52 |
| genehacker | did you see that thing Jonathan Cline sent out | 18:53 |
| genehacker | it's a lego robot that does pippetting | 18:53 |
| genehacker | most notable is that this robot is a delta robot | 18:56 |
| genehacker | which is a bit excessive considering this is done with legos | 18:56 |
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| JayDugger | How goes Smart's presentation. I can't watch--preparing for work. | 20:16 |
| JayDugger | ?, even. | 20:16 |
| JayDugger | Does he have anything new to say since the Accelerating Change conferences? | 20:17 |
| genehacker | haven't been watching | 20:17 |
| genehacker | lost vid connection | 20:17 |
| genehacker | started to get weird anyway | 20:17 |
| JayDugger | Ah. Too bad. | 20:17 |
| JayDugger | Oh, the Leary references? | 20:17 |
| genehacker | sorta stopped at the quantum conscience stuff | 20:18 |
| JayDugger | Yeah...the whole cyberdelic angle has some weirdness to it. | 20:18 |
| JayDugger | I find "show me something, preferably hardware" a good bogosity filter. | 20:20 |
| genehacker | and this music guy | 20:20 |
| JayDugger | Who? | 20:20 |
| genehacker | I dunno some guy who made music for ads or something | 20:21 |
| genehacker | I don't really care | 20:21 |
| JayDugger | Fair enough. :) | 20:21 |
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| jasonwohlfahrt | hey bryan | 21:20 |
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| kanzure | hey jason | 22:09 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | how ya doin there, sir | 22:33 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | ? | 22:33 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | I was so busy yesterday, I wasn't able to tune in for your presentation. Anywhere that I can view it now? | 22:34 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | Or will it be archived for future viewing? | 22:34 |
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