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| wrldpc2 | Alex Lightman says to email him (alex@innofone.com) with any requests/suggestions regarding archival/presentation of videos from hplus summit. | 00:01 |
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| wrldpc2 | He's having lunch with TechZu Efren tomorrow. | 00:01 |
| QuantumG | are there any from day 1? | 00:01 |
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| fenn | xp_prg: saw you were logged in from hackerdojo... | 01:00 |
| ybit | 21:32 < kanzure> and maybe ybit if he stops pronouncing everything wrong | 01:05 |
| ybit | kanzure: you have that backwards | 01:06 |
| ybit | this is silly but entertaining, who here pronounces SQL as S-Q-L, or do you pronounce it like most people as 'sequel' | 01:07 |
| ybit | just like GUI is gooey and not G-U-I, ick | 01:08 |
| ybit | now SKDB needs a name like 'sokadab' or something :P | 01:09 |
| ybit | i got the job btw | 01:09 |
| fenn | moving to palm springs? | 01:16 |
| fenn | i say S-Q-L but i've heard both | 01:17 |
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| ybit | fenn: yep | 01:23 |
| ybit | not sure when exactly | 01:23 |
| ybit | i want to be there now, as does the guy, but there's family crap to deal with for a few days before heading back | 01:25 |
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| strages | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8400222.stm she surgically removed her fingerprints, flipped them over, and reattached | 10:15 |
| Utopiah | I wonder if , like blind people apparatus to mimic pixel reader, one could make "fingerprints" on demand system :-# | 10:16 |
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| ybit | good morning friends | 10:53 |
| genehacker | perhaps I can get the world on my sleep schedule using solar mirrors | 10:59 |
| genehacker | or not | 10:59 |
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| ybit | :P | 11:05 |
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| xp_prg | fenn and? | 12:15 |
| xp_prg | fenn when you coming to Stanford? | 12:16 |
| xp_prg | I worked on the bioprinter stuff last night | 12:17 |
| xp_prg | we are going to use an epson stylus 1280 | 12:17 |
| xp_prg | I could really use help understanding the hydrogel I need to use | 12:18 |
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| genehacker | can you drive it without violating the driver patent? | 12:26 |
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| kanzure | interesting stat from the conference: on average google queries are 5 words in length | 12:32 |
| genehacker | are you still considering that spam king thing? | 12:54 |
| ybit | considering, what? | 12:57 |
| ybit | kanzure: ueah, found that interesting as well | 12:57 |
| xp_prg | genehacker drive what? | 13:02 |
| kanzure | ybit: are you busy at the moment? | 13:03 |
| kanzure | i need someone to figure out the distribution of super-frienders on facebook | 13:03 |
| ybit | heh | 13:03 |
| kanzure | i.e. the top 1% of users on facebook with "the most friends" have how many friends, and the bottom 50% on average have how many friends? | 13:04 |
| ybit | yeah, i'm about to be on the phone for awhile | 13:04 |
| kanzure | er i think this is a good case for a logarithm but i'm not really sure how to make it | 13:04 |
| kanzure | ok maybe someone else would like to do that | 13:04 |
| genehacker | the inkjet | 13:05 |
| genehacker | epson has a patent on the inkjet driver | 13:06 |
| genehacker | which is why one company can't sell them | 13:06 |
| genehacker | though if you can drive it, good job | 13:07 |
| genehacker | are you talking about a probability distribution? | 13:07 |
| genehacker | sounds like a job for the normal distribution | 13:07 |
| kanzure | yes | 13:09 |
| kanzure | but i'm not sure what the distribution looks like for facebook, twitter, or whatever | 13:15 |
| kanzure | on twit | 13:15 |
| kanzure | on twitter it's probably more of a sausage fest or something | 13:15 |
| ybit | that would be interesting, but where does it come into play? | 13:15 |
| ybit | what's its purpose | 13:16 |
| kanzure | communication matrix transhuman tsstuff | 13:17 |
| kanzure | uploading youtube videos, so i'm lagging right now | 13:17 |
| ybit | you talk about uploading vids.. so where are these vids going? | 13:23 |
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| genehacker | something to do with memeing perhaps? | 13:32 |
| kanzure | ybit: youtube | 13:48 |
| kanzure | ybit: still uploading 1/3.. blah | 13:48 |
| kanzure | http://whenisgood.net/ vs. http://doodle.com/ .. looks like doodle at least shows you when everyone else is available, but whenisgood.net has easier select-the-times stuff (you just click on a day/time in the table cells) | 13:53 |
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| kanzure | i wonder why http://kyra.desire.se/ is connected to me | 14:03 |
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| kanzure | wtf i just uploaded it.. how do we have 50 views? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n39RK4inzg | 15:17 |
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| kanzure | part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n39RK4inzg | 16:16 |
| kanzure | part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S9z6H_EFqQ | 16:16 |
| kanzure | part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edl6uFn3_g4 | 16:16 |
| QuantumG | heh, couldn't cut out the scientologist dig at the beginning? | 16:27 |
| QuantumG | blue on black slides, fail | 16:32 |
| QuantumG | making me sit up in my chair so I can read it on my lcd | 16:33 |
| QuantumG | kanzure and fenn, making your posture better. | 16:33 |
| kanzure | yeah my posture sucked | 16:39 |
| kanzure | and i forgot to breath half the time | 16:39 |
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| QuantumG | heh, no, *my* posture was being improved by the slides.. there's basically invisible on my lcd monitor when viewed from my regular slouching posture | 16:40 |
| kanzure | the slides on the video suck | 16:41 |
| kanzure | you can download the pdf though | 16:41 |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/~bryan/presentations/hplus-summit-2009/hplus-summit-2009-how-to-make.pdf | 16:41 |
| QuantumG | btw, you can link your videos into a series | 16:41 |
| QuantumG | or do the "post a video reply" to link them | 16:42 |
| kanzure | how do i link them into a series (other than post a video reply) | 16:42 |
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| QuantumG | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S9z6H_EFqQ | 16:44 |
| QuantumG | grr | 16:44 |
| QuantumG | http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=57792 | 16:45 |
| QuantumG | you probably want the "From your Account:" | 16:45 |
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| kanzure | "James: she sees you like a little brother who doesn't have anyone telling you how things are or helping steer you" | 17:11 |
| kanzure | hm he wants me to go work for dean kamen | 17:13 |
| kanzure | why does dean kamen sound like a fragrance-product-for-men instead of the evil mad scientist that he is? hell he even has his own island | 17:14 |
| genehacker | work for dean kamen? | 17:15 |
| kanzure | yeah.. i don't think so. | 17:15 |
| genehacker | perhaps you should consider working for danny hillis instead | 17:16 |
| kanzure | i don't want to work for anyone | 17:16 |
| genehacker | who suggested you work with kamen | 17:16 |
| kanzure | james clement | 17:16 |
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| genehacker | never heard of him | 17:18 |
| genehacker | I don't see how dean kamen has anything to do with skdb | 17:19 |
| genehacker | heh he might even be against it | 17:20 |
| genehacker | especially if it allows people to pirate segways | 17:20 |
| genehacker | anyway I got some stuff I want to put into skdb | 17:21 |
| genehacker | it's in .stl though | 17:21 |
| genehacker | it's not on thingiverse either | 17:22 |
| kanzure | i would rather not deal with .stl | 17:23 |
| genehacker | too bad it's in .stl and I don't have the original file | 17:24 |
| genehacker | or I could get the original file, but it will be a while | 17:24 |
| genehacker | I've done some documentation on it though | 17:25 |
| genehacker | hasn't been tested in the real world | 17:25 |
| genehacker | er.. two things | 17:25 |
| kanzure | hm instructables started with k'nex? | 17:32 |
| genehacker | they did? | 17:35 |
| genehacker | that explains a lot | 17:35 |
| kanzure | average twitter user has 126 followers? | 17:45 |
| Utopiah | more like 12 I think | 17:47 |
| kanzure | neat, distribution of follower counts: http://bit.ly/sotwitter | 17:49 |
| kanzure | page 5 of the pdf | 17:49 |
| Utopiah | long tail? | 17:50 |
| kanzure | looks like it | 17:52 |
| kanzure | i wish their graph was better though | 17:52 |
| kanzure | 10 people having 9k followers? what about the twitter superstars with 100k+ followers | 17:53 |
| kanzure | http://twitterholic.com/ | 17:53 |
| kanzure | some people have a few million followers | 17:53 |
| kanzure | obama has 2.8M for instance | 17:53 |
| Utopiah | unit might be x1000 on the x axis | 17:53 |
| kanzure | i don't think so, followers max out at 4M | 17:54 |
| kanzure | according to twitterholic.com | 17:54 |
| kanzure | i think looking at the "friends" count will give a much smoother longtail plot | 17:56 |
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| Utopiah | opinions on http://shop.lenovo.com/us/notebooks/ideapad/ ? | 18:04 |
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| bkero | Which? | 18:55 |
| bkero | Some are OK, most are crap | 18:55 |
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| Utopiah | ok, just wondering, I have an X31 now but if it were to break (... unlikely but, just in case) I was considering buying one of those | 19:01 |
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| Utopiah | brillant | 19:18 |
| Utopiah | opening with a quote on Scientology, bit less brillant :P | 19:18 |
| Utopiah | anyway, thanks for sharing | 19:19 |
| Utopiah | btw on the seed metaphor, have you watched ? (anime on terraforming) | 19:20 |
| kanzure | no? can you find the name? | 19:22 |
| Utopiah | (yes, was looking for the intro with nice but scray visuals) | 19:23 |
| Utopiah | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xGoR23Wouk | 19:23 |
| Utopiah | ( use http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xGoR23Wouk&fmt=18 to force HQ) | 19:23 |
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| kanzure | hm andrew has some contacts at autodesk | 19:54 |
| Utopiah | in part 3, the host talk about locally available pieces | 19:58 |
| kanzure | host was todd huffman | 19:59 |
| Utopiah | is it planned to have a "localized" version of the design/blueprint then? could be a nice automated addition | 19:59 |
| Utopiah | (maybe based simple on the list of available items/tools) | 19:59 |
| Utopiah | well I guess it would be the case anyway in a fully integrated system when you just have a "build" function, forget it | 20:02 |
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| kristian1aul | hello | 20:19 |
| Utopiah | hi kristian1aul ;) saw the channel on the video I suppose | 20:20 |
| kristian1aul | Utopiah: ;) | 20:21 |
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| any90454102 | ack! | 20:27 |
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| katsmeow | i hate to see a kay with mindspillage | 20:27 |
| katsmeow | i hate to see a kat with mindspillage | 20:27 |
| katsmeow | i hate this keybd to :-| | 20:27 |
| katsmeow | o | 20:27 |
| * mindspillage raises an eyebrow | 20:27 | |
| * katsmeow watches it intently | 20:28 | |
| mindspillage | Forgive me for not finding your original nick distinctive -- have we met? | 20:28 |
| katsmeow | nono,, i see you have "Kat" in your irc signon stuff, nevermind | 20:29 |
| katsmeow | anynumbers i pick when loging back on after a disconenct, ignore that,, err, me, sorry, no botehr | 20:29 |
| mindspillage | katsmeow: ah, OK. Just wondering if there's something I ought to remember and don't. (Kat is my name, but "mindspiallge" is much better for search...) | 20:30 |
| * katsmeow hides | 20:30 | |
| mindspillage | even better not typoed. | 20:30 |
| * katsmeow is so sadly aware of h ineptness with this new keybd | 20:30 | |
| katsmeow | her | 20:31 |
| katsmeow | weo;ribrhyt;owehfl;iaendfh k; | 20:31 |
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| kanzure | hey thesnark | 20:32 |
| kanzure | hi mindspillage | 20:32 |
| thesnark | salut | 20:32 |
| katsmeow | i was going to pull chips off these 200 cable boxes for selling on ebay, but since there's people sellng 300 chips for as little as $10, i think i won't botehr | 20:33 |
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| kanzure | hello kristianpaul | 20:34 |
| kristianpaul | kanzure: hola :) | 20:34 |
| kanzure | what's up? | 20:35 |
| kristianpaul | well... for now printing a reprap :) | 20:38 |
| kanzure | alright. fair enough. | 20:38 |
| kristianpaul | kanzure: what's the status of skdb? | 20:42 |
| kanzure | we need more people who have IGES/STEP models to spontaneously show up :) | 20:42 |
| kristianpaul | i see :p | 20:42 |
| kanzure | right now we have screws, bearings, threads and legos in skdb | 20:43 |
| kanzure | and there's a website (think thingiverse on steroids, crossed with instructables mated with a clue stick) | 20:43 |
| kristianpaul | what about electronics? | 20:43 |
| kanzure | nothing in there yet.. but there should be | 20:43 |
| kanzure | in fact electronics are even easier than most of this other crap | 20:44 |
| kanzure | i have been thinking about writing a scraper to extract data from electronics datasheets | 20:44 |
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| kristianpaul | and well, repraped parts could help if you get how to build one first of course | 20:45 |
| kanzure | well i've been having something of a philosophical or technical crisis or something | 20:45 |
| kanzure | i'm pretty sure it's better if we all reject STL | 20:46 |
| kanzure | we can convert from solid geometry to STL easily | 20:46 |
| kanzure | but we can't convert from STL to anything else | 20:46 |
| * thesnark laughs | 20:46 | |
| thesnark | sounds familiar | 20:46 |
| thesnark | STL is really not that great | 20:46 |
| kanzure | so if you give skdb STL, nobody can edit it too well | 20:46 |
| kanzure | thesnark: unfortunately that's what everyone uses :( | 20:46 |
| kristianpaul | 21:46 < kanzure> we can convert from solid geometry to STL easily | 20:47 |
| * kanzure nods | 20:47 | |
| kristianpaul | how easily? | 20:47 |
| kanzure | open, save | 20:47 |
| kanzure | heh | 20:47 |
| kanzure | yeah it's a common function in any CAD program :) | 20:47 |
| kristianpaul | hmm | 20:47 |
| kristianpaul | okay may be i tought other think | 20:48 |
| kanzure | what? | 20:48 |
| thesnark | hahaha | 20:48 |
| kanzure | sorry a train wreck just hit me in the face | 20:48 |
| kristianpaul | kanzure: about 3d modeling stuff | 20:49 |
| kanzure | ok | 20:49 |
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| kanzure | mindspillage: i was talking with a lawyer from EFF the other day about open source hardware | 20:49 |
| kanzure | he didn't know much (and he admitted this immediately).. hard to find good lawyers | 20:50 |
| mindspillage | Ah, yeah--EFF has "staff technologists" to translate though. | 20:50 |
| thesnark | it's a relatively new legal phenomenon | 20:50 |
| mindspillage | (kanzure: was reminded of this channel seeing your h+ summit transcripts; thanks for putting those up!) | 20:57 |
| kanzure | yay | 21:04 |
| kanzure | no problem | 21:04 |
| kanzure | my fingers hurt afterwards though :( | 21:04 |
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| QuantumG | so kanzure, was it you or fenn that has the lathe? | 21:18 |
| kanzure | fenn. | 21:20 |
| QuantumG | how big is it? | 21:21 |
| kanzure | i saw it once. it looked like it wouldn't be wrong to call it "desktop-size" | 21:21 |
| QuantumG | for some reason I got the idea fenn was your housemate? | 21:22 |
| kanzure | he's staying in california for a while | 21:22 |
| kanzure | it makes sense: who the hell (besides me apparently) goes to california for only three days | 21:22 |
| QuantumG | ahh ok | 21:22 |
| QuantumG | heh | 21:22 |
| QuantumG | I met a machinist in my welding class.. he's buying a lathe and a mill for xmas (or shortly after) and has indicated to me that he would be willing to teach me some stuff. | 21:23 |
| QuantumG | .. and if not will do work for me cheaply. | 21:23 |
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| katsmeow-afk | hope ybit left his windows down, they are getting pounded up tehre atm, weatherwise | 21:35 |
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| kanzure | marcin's talk: http://www.justin.tv/clip/7c40a8bf7e293dd5 | 22:21 |
| wrldpc2 | What does everyone think of RU Sirius' marginalization of DIY at the HPlus Summit? | 22:49 |
| kanzure | meh, eventually someone has to do something | 23:16 |
| kanzure | i hitched a ride with him at one point. he was saying "we would love to have you write an article." | 23:17 |
| kanzure | he quickly added: "with an editor." | 23:17 |
| kanzure | :p | 23:17 |
| QuantumG | I really wish more people would use gmail.. or at least a threaded email program.. when replying to mailing lists. | 23:20 |
| QuantumG | someone makes a trivial mistake and 10 people jump on him with the same correction. | 23:21 |
| ybit | books mentioned in the sci-fi lunch session with alex lightman: | 23:46 |
| ybit | 1) Blood Music by Greg Behr | 23:46 |
| ybit | 2) Suicidal Tendencies | 23:46 |
| ybit | 3) The Notion of Markets | 23:46 |
| ybit | 4) Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom | 23:46 |
| ybit | 5) Reputation in the Social Economy | 23:46 |
| ybit | 6) Excelerando by Charles Stross | 23:46 |
| ybit | 7) Haulting State by Charles Stross | 23:46 |
| ybit | 8) Rainbow's End | 23:46 |
| ybit | 9) The Age of Spiritual Machines | 23:46 |
| ybit | 10) Beggars in Spain by Nancy Crest | 23:46 |
| ybit | 11) Spark (ref. exercise and the brain) | 23:46 |
| ybit | 12) Kill People, by David Bryn | 23:46 |
| ybit | 13) Superman (idea of U.N. Men --> clone brothers) | 23:47 |
| ybit | 14) Malcolm Gladwell's Outlyers | 23:47 |
| ybit | 15) The Talent Code. | 23:47 |
| ybit | s/Excelerando/Accelerando | 23:47 |
| ybit | Beggers, etc. ignore spelling errors | 23:47 |
| QuantumG | read Accelerando | 23:47 |
| QuantumG | and 4 | 23:48 |
| QuantumG | started in 8 a few times, but it was an ebook, meh | 23:48 |
| ybit | hmm.. i know i have more that were just mentioned in passing written down somewhere... | 23:48 |
| QuantumG | oh and 9, yes, read the whole thing in the library one day, didn't feel the need to read it slower | 23:48 |
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