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| kanzure | ybit: greg bear. | 08:53 |
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| kanzure | hi eric_ | 08:54 |
| eric_ | howdy | 08:54 |
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| kanzure | opencascade architecture overview: http://www.dia.uniroma3.it/~scorzell/cscheme/ocas.htm | 09:25 |
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| kanzure | does anyone know why i can never checkout stuff via cvs on sourceforge? | 09:38 |
| kanzure | for instance, cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@libgmail.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/libgmail login tells me that i need a password for the "anonymous" user | 09:38 |
| kanzure | hm looks like libgmail has been having issues since 2009-11-30 on gmail authentication bullshit anyway | 09:39 |
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| kanzure | hey splicer_ | 09:45 |
| kanzure | long time no see | 09:45 |
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| strages | why did no one tell me there was an H+ magazine? | 10:36 |
| kanzure | haha :) | 10:38 |
| kanzure | it's relatively new | 10:38 |
| kanzure | the print version isn't going to be printed any more.. just the online edition | 10:39 |
| strages | ah, I was unaware | 11:02 |
| strages | just saw that boing boing mentioned the new issue being out | 11:02 |
| strages | in print and online | 11:02 |
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| kanzure | some chick was hanging out around todd at the conference | 11:25 |
| kanzure | and she asked about his magnets | 11:25 |
| kanzure | "what do they do?" | 11:26 |
| kanzure | "well," and he thought for a moment, "they let me experience a level of reality that, uh, you can't." | 11:26 |
| kanzure | the chick went totally "wow-eee" on him.. :p | 11:26 |
| strages | lol | 11:32 |
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| mindspillage | I can't decide, generally, whether to be annoyed with the actual behavior of "nerd groupies" or to be happy that they exist. | 11:52 |
| xp_prg | I took apart an inkjet printer and attempted to print with soy sauce but the printer failed | 12:21 |
| xp_prg | I learned alot though | 12:21 |
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| kanzure | http://www.designconference.org | 15:11 |
| kanzure | paper due on the 14th | 15:11 |
| * kanzure pops some pills | 15:11 | |
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| kanzure | "To use Microsoft Office Live Workspace beta, your computer must meet one of the following requirements:" <-- i'm not even going to bother reading the rest of this | 15:20 |
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| genehacker | kanzure you know that page you made with all the transcripts of the Hplus talks? | 15:39 |
| genehacker | put a link to a description of SKDB on it | 15:40 |
| QuantumG | http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/09/2141250 | 15:58 |
| QuantumG | http://www.computerworlduk.com/community/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=2688&blogid=14 | 15:58 |
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| genehacker | http://nextbigfuture.com/2009/12/gregory-benford-of-genescient-talks-at.html | 16:16 |
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| xp_prg | genehacker I took apart an inkjet printer and the inkjet cartridges man! | 16:38 |
| xp_prg | I was ready to try to print soy sauce and the printer broke :( | 16:38 |
| xp_prg | is it possible to measure the viscosity of a substance? | 16:41 |
| katsmeow-afk | genehacker, yea, but who wants to live any longer? i'd WAY prefer to live better | 16:50 |
| katsmeow-afk | MOSCOW, Dec. 9, 2009 - | 16:53 |
| katsmeow-afk | A Ukrainian man's jaw was blown off after he laced his chewing gum with an unknown substance, local authorities in the country's Sumy region said of the man who died from his injuries. | 16:53 |
| katsmeow-afk | A chemistry student at the Kiev Polytechnic Institute who was identified only by his first name Vladimir liked to chew gum and dip it in citric acid, his family said. | 16:53 |
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| kanzure | QuantumG: the comments in that slashdot article are .. lacking | 17:04 |
| kanzure | genehacker: yeah i met with greg, he's pretty cool. | 17:04 |
| QuantumG | its slashdot | 17:06 |
| kanzure | usually there's at least one "really good comment" | 17:06 |
| QuantumG | less and less frequently unfortunately | 17:07 |
| kanzure | ah the days when i tried to maximize my life for karma whoring.. | 17:07 |
| kanzure | you know something's wrong when you're basically a bayesian filter for what might get karma on slashdot | 17:07 |
| QuantumG | there was a time when you could post a comment and you'd get something just as good back | 17:07 |
| QuantumG | *that* was karma :) | 17:08 |
| kanzure | bah you old people always exaggerate about "them there good old days" | 17:12 |
| kanzure | :p | 17:12 |
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| kanzure | hey rmond | 17:18 |
| fenn | so i went to noisebridge last night | 17:19 |
| fenn | it was bigger than i expected | 17:19 |
| fenn | the people were really friendly; apparently they'll give a key to anyone that wants one, even non-members | 17:20 |
| fenn | the max-nc mill is godawful slow for cutting metal | 17:22 |
| * fenn has no spacebar | 17:22 | |
| fenn | and i have a sinus infection that has progressed into a cold | 17:24 |
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| kanzure | spaces are for weirdos anyway | 17:36 |
| kanzure | beautifulsoup's findChildren only finds immediate children, not absolute children | 17:37 |
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| QuantumG | http://bit.ly/2IGWfm | 17:58 |
| kanzure | actually it's rampant because it's so easy | 17:59 |
| kanzure | also wtf is with the guy with a pistol | 17:59 |
| QuantumG | he's a cop | 18:00 |
| QuantumG | the guy with the cassette is the computer criminal | 18:00 |
| kanzure | bah casette will never catch on, criminals of tomorrow will use 8track | 18:01 |
| QuantumG | RT @FakeAPStylebook: "Hacker" simply means "a person who is skilled with computers." To describe a computer criminal, use "Linux user." | 18:01 |
| kanzure | aw :( | 18:01 |
| fenn | i wish james choate would just crawl into a hole and die | 19:06 |
| kanzure | yep | 19:06 |
| kanzure | "fooey i hate your idea because you weren't born to experience how things used to be" | 19:06 |
| kanzure | besides, none of the people he mentioned really /did/ anything | 19:07 |
| kanzure | er.. i mean, like packaging | 19:07 |
| fenn | yeah if there were an existing example of something like this, i think i would have found it by now | 19:07 |
| fenn | oscomak just barely counts | 19:07 |
| fenn | what is an "8 cube" anyway? | 19:08 |
| fenn | a blinky led thingy? | 19:09 |
| kanzure | haha | 19:09 |
| kanzure | i don't think we're planning on doing blinky led shit | 19:09 |
| kanzure | i count only 6 sides on a coube, so maybe i'm missing something? | 19:10 |
| fenn | yeah, papercraft rulz :P | 19:10 |
| fenn | it's probably an 8x8x8 blinky | 19:10 |
| kanzure | wow even more spectacularly fail | 19:11 |
| kanzure | i guess it's a good way to be introduced to multiplexing or managing lots of blinking lights at the same time | 19:11 |
| fenn | anyway what choate doesn't realize is that anything that isn't on the internets doesn't exist | 19:11 |
| fenn | not because people are morons who hate their grandparents | 19:12 |
| kanzure | stupid grandparents.. | 19:12 |
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| drazak_ | fenn: who's at choate? | 19:50 |
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| genehacker | of course we all know the cassette the guy's carrying has already been erased by the superconducting electromagnets embedded in his house... | 19:53 |
| genehacker | http://www.paleofuture.com/blog/2007/4/20/the-robot-rebellion-1982.html | 19:58 |
| genehacker | another one by the same author | 19:58 |
| genehacker | fairly dystopian future for a kids book | 19:59 |
| genehacker | http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3560/3393673535_f364eb3174_o.jpg | 20:13 |
| genehacker | they almost got this right | 20:13 |
| genehacker | except for the machine which makes things out of plastic you design yourself... | 20:13 |
| * fenn wonders if that was a reference to cryptonomicon | 20:20 | |
| kanzure | grr development costs | 20:21 |
| kanzure | already spent 2 pennies | 20:21 |
| genehacker | first one yes | 20:22 |
| genehacker | what'd you spend 2 pennies on? | 20:23 |
| kanzure | captchas | 20:24 |
| kanzure | i registered on two captcha human typing networks | 20:25 |
| kanzure | one just asks the other one to solve the captchas for it.. | 20:25 |
| kanzure | and then i take the profit | 20:25 |
| genehacker | so that captcha reader program of yours is making money? | 20:25 |
| kanzure | no i'm not using that right now | 20:26 |
| kanzure | just using humans | 20:26 |
| genehacker | what are you using the humans for? | 20:26 |
| kanzure | to solve the captchas | 20:26 |
| genehacker | for what? | 20:26 |
| kanzure | for the other captcha solving network (which thinks i'm just a really really fast human) | 20:26 |
| genehacker | oh I see | 20:27 |
| kanzure | but in reality i'm like a few hundred wage labors all acting at once | 20:27 |
| kanzure | laborers | 20:27 |
| kanzure | er | 20:27 |
| genehacker | so you're gaming the system | 20:27 |
| kanzure | no this is "business" | 20:27 |
| genehacker | is it profitable? | 20:27 |
| kanzure | dunno yet | 20:28 |
| kanzure | things aren't running yet | 20:28 |
| genehacker | you finish up your finals yet? | 20:29 |
| kanzure | finals? | 20:29 |
| genehacker | yeah finals | 20:30 |
| genehacker | it's finals week | 20:30 |
| genehacker | are even taking classes | 20:34 |
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| kanzure | hm 1% success rate | 21:01 |
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| drazak_ | fail | 21:08 |
| kanzure | bah you do better | 21:10 |
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| kanzure | hi jason | 21:39 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | hello there | 21:41 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | did you ever get your presentation video edited down to one video file? | 21:41 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | I wouldn't mind doing this, if you haven't already | 21:42 |
| kanzure | yep | 21:44 |
| kanzure | jasonwohlfahrt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n39RK4inzg | 21:45 |
| kanzure | part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S9z6H_EFqQ | 21:45 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | cool! | 21:45 |
| kanzure | part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edl6uFn3_g4 | 21:45 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | now I can share with the friends | 21:45 |
| kanzure | i had to split them up because of youtubes policies | 21:45 |
| QuantumG | I become most aware of the existence of "muscle memory" when I type something while thinking something else.. I can literally see the characters coming out wrong and by the time I figure out that no amount of "executive" control is going to make them come out right there's already 5 or 6 characters. | 21:45 |
| kanzure | is it bad if my muscles remember typing that very same message before, QuantumG? | 21:46 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | hey bryan, I'd love to do a video for your project with the new camera I'm getting | 21:47 |
| kanzure | sounds like fun | 21:47 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | Let me know if you'd like me to make anything in particular. Otherwise, I'll brainstorm some ideas! | 21:48 |
| kanzure | i'd like to hear what you have in mind :) | 21:48 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | I think it would be fun to do some kind of video demo for skdb | 21:48 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | Something under five minutes that would highlight the software | 21:49 |
| kanzure | haha how good are you with teh special effects? | 21:49 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | Actually, I'm fairly proficient, depending on what you want | 21:50 |
| kanzure | world domination? | 21:50 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | Hah | 21:50 |
| kanzure | ok ok | 21:50 |
| kanzure | hm | 21:50 |
| kanzure | one sec | 21:50 |
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| genehacker | so you could produce one of those videos we could inject into all media outlets in the world and play at once? | 21:51 |
| kanzure | i was thinking of something like this: | 21:51 |
| kanzure | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBbnT-cIDVM | 21:51 |
| kanzure | i'm not sure though | 21:51 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | That's awesome | 21:52 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | I can definitely do lasers, sparks, and such | 21:52 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | Yeah, I could make you look like a world dominator | 21:52 |
| kanzure | haha i'm really kidding on the world domination part | 21:52 |
| kanzure | i think it would be cool to show someone at a computer typing a command like | 21:52 |
| kanzure | "make me an exoskeleton" | 21:53 |
| kanzure | and one is assembled around the user | 21:53 |
| kanzure | but that's really complicated | 21:53 |
| kanzure | similar things can be done though | 21:53 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | Could be done | 21:53 |
| kanzure | somewhere i saw a video of anime geeks dressing up as transformers | 21:53 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | I love me a challenge | 21:53 |
| kanzure | so when they kneeled down, they "transformed" | 21:53 |
| kanzure | basically they were wearing cardboard boxes | 21:53 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | haha, that sounds awesome | 21:54 |
| genehacker | make an exoskeleton? | 21:54 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | All I need is an image of an exoskeloton and I can do some simple motion tracking | 21:54 |
| kanzure | here was another fun one: | 21:55 |
| genehacker | AR trackers? | 21:55 |
| kanzure | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPSoFYHywJw | 21:55 |
| kanzure | this is also neat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaFceggR1ew | 21:55 |
| ybit | so here | 21:55 |
| ybit | 's the video i have in mind after hearing kanzure's suggestion.. | 21:55 |
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| genehacker | you know what would be cool to do sometime? | 21:57 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | huh? | 21:57 |
| ybit | you have a skinny nerd looking guy who is sitting at a computer.. he does 'skdb-get exoskeleton' and you see robot arms flying around him and sparks flying, and within a few secs, the guy looks super cool after a few more commands like 'skdb-get ar-visor' etc.. at the end the guy has replicated earth and he controls it... the tagline 'with skdb, anything is possible, including world domination' | 21:58 |
| genehacker | is once we have enough useful things in SKDB start automatically generating videogame style tech trees | 21:58 |
| genehacker | http://www.maxfreak.com/starcraft2/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/terran-tech-tree1.jpg | 21:58 |
| ybit | this could a 30 sec commercial | 21:58 |
| kanzure | yeah my vote is for way less than 5min | 21:59 |
| ybit | anywho, i'm off to brush up on my java skills | 21:59 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | Yeah | 21:59 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | People get bored after 30 seconds ususally | 21:59 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | which is unfortunate | 21:59 |
| kanzure | you have anything up on youtube? | 21:59 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | Not really, I'm not much of a youtube uploader | 22:00 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | I need to upload more though | 22:00 |
| kanzure | i have about 300 MB of short clips of manufacturing equipment | 22:01 |
| kanzure | all of the clips are in the creative commons | 22:01 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | Sure would be nice to have a camera that shoots 1000 frames per second | 22:01 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | cool | 22:01 |
| kanzure | have you seen koyaanisqatsi? | 22:02 |
| genehacker | http://designgraphics.ncsu.edu/pages/watsonb/teaching/481/notes/pics/civ2chart.jpg | 22:02 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | Yeah, its pretty neat | 22:02 |
| kanzure | have you seen the follow-up, anima mundi? | 22:03 |
| kanzure | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2391673215252131298&ei=6nIgS-uNL53eqAKi3cD4Dw&q=anima+mundi&hl=en&client=iceweasel-a# | 22:03 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | nope | 22:03 |
| kanzure | it's on google there | 22:03 |
| kanzure | anyway if we just have clips in the end maybe that would be useful | 22:03 |
| kanzure | er i mean a good direction | 22:03 |
| kanzure | and throw some 'good' music to it | 22:04 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | indeed | 22:04 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | google video has lots of hidden treasures | 22:04 |
| genehacker | what are we trying to do with the video | 22:05 |
| genehacker | what is the message being communicated | 22:05 |
| kanzure | a demo of skdb being really neat | 22:05 |
| genehacker | what do we have to demo | 22:06 |
| kanzure | legos? | 22:06 |
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| jasonwohlfahrt | it would | 22:07 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | I'll have to think about this | 22:07 |
| genehacker | do we have anything that people would find neat? | 22:07 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | Somehow we should distill your h+ presentation down to 30 seconds to a minute | 22:07 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | and make it very visual, of course | 22:07 |
| kanzure | jasonwohlfahrt: actually i think that could be done just by speeding up fenn's portion... just show those 100 images in a 20 second period | 22:07 |
| kanzure | "download it all in 2010" | 22:07 |
| kanzure | hah | 22:08 |
| genehacker | ok why don't we figure out a way to put all the things fenn showed in the presentation into SKDB? | 22:08 |
| kanzure | because most of them don't have CAD files | 22:08 |
| genehacker | what about just reprap then or that opensource mill thing? | 22:09 |
| kanzure | reprap is a good candidate | 22:09 |
| kanzure | the opensource mill from openmfg doesn't have any CAD | 22:09 |
| genehacker | what about the pillow dome, is that open source? | 22:09 |
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| genehacker | are cad files made of it? | 22:09 |
| kanzure | what? | 22:09 |
| genehacker | otherwise is sufficient data available that cad files can be made for it? | 22:10 |
| QuantumG | btw, has anyone put together a stop-frame video of a reprap being assembled? | 22:10 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | haha | 22:10 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | be back in a little while, gotta take care of something | 22:10 |
| kanzure | maybe that data is hidden genehacker | 22:10 |
| QuantumG | only one I've seen was timelapse of a guy doing it. | 22:10 |
| kanzure | because i haven't found it yet | 22:10 |
| genehacker | no, no one has | 22:10 |
| QuantumG | could you do that with cad? | 22:11 |
| kanzure | if there are models of each component yeah | 22:11 |
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| kanzure | somehow i doubt that there are, though :( | 22:11 |
| QuantumG | oh, I thought you had reprap cad | 22:11 |
| kanzure | i don't. but reprap.org might | 22:11 |
| genehacker | reprap changes a lot | 22:11 |
| kanzure | then choose a version | 22:11 |
| genehacker | mendel version at this moment | 22:12 |
| QuantumG | once you have a stop-motion video of reprap being assembled you can prepend timelapse video of it printing its own parts | 22:13 |
| QuantumG | then its actually feasible to *visually* see the self replication promise | 22:14 |
| QuantumG | even if that promise hasn't been realized yet (human labor required) | 22:14 |
| kanzure | human labor isn't the issue | 22:15 |
| QuantumG | its an issue | 22:15 |
| genehacker | it is | 22:15 |
| kanzure | yeah it is an issue | 22:15 |
| genehacker | which is why I want to build something like that moses thing | 22:16 |
| genehacker | except with better unit cell design | 22:17 |
| QuantumG | awesome, I have 7 versions of a source file I wrote | 22:19 |
| QuantumG | manual merging ftl | 22:19 |
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| QuantumG | ok, that didn't take long | 22:28 |
| kanzure | enter the letters under the smiling emoticons: http://blog.phpbb.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/captcha_poc.png | 22:40 |
| kanzure | a test made to defeat me it seems :( | 22:40 |
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