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| * Trooem is wandering what everyone, individually is making. | 00:45 | |
| bkero | lolcalifornia | 00:49 |
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| katsmeow-afk | making drunk | 00:49 |
| bkero | I'm making the world a better place. | 00:49 |
| Trooem | haha | 00:50 |
| Trooem | nothing specific? | 00:50 |
| Trooem | i'm just wondering what everyone is doing for a project/ or as a longterm goal | 00:50 |
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| katsmeow-afk | being dogfood | 00:53 |
| katsmeow-afk | nothing can be ipnk and and nothing can have drams in it | 00:54 |
| katsmeow-afk | hell if i know why people don't like it | 00:54 |
| MrClif | Evening... Just curious, where are the chat archives again? | 00:55 |
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| MrClif | For anyone who is interested, there were a few interesting MIT projects published here: http://mtm.cba.mit.edu/ | 00:57 |
| MrClif | however only a couple have the pages fleshed out so far. | 00:58 |
| MrClif | I saw the blue PCB Mill at Makers faire (now I can say it) last year. | 00:59 |
| MrClif | I was thinking the first usefull machine for me to start with might be a small mill or PCB router. | 01:00 |
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| katsmeow-afk | don't make it with any pink string in it antwhere, people will harrass you for days till you destryo it, get tid of it | 01:09 |
| katsmeow-afk | same as if you wanna use drams (ddr, ddr2 etc) in any way to index high speedily 2 terabytes of files in a server | 01:10 |
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| ybit | mr randallagordon, you live in the u.s.? where exactly do you live that allows you to make as much noise as you like? because i'm facing this problem atm | 03:11 |
| ybit | ah, "so long as it isn't 3am ;) " | 03:11 |
| ybit | i need better sound barriers | 03:13 |
| katsmeow-afk | ybit, wher you are, you can shoot cannons howitzers and prolly get invited to do it some more | 03:22 |
| kanzure | MrClif: the logs are here: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/hplusroadmap.log.tar.gz | 03:34 |
| ybit | katsmeow-afk: haha, i wish | 03:36 |
| ybit | think what is needed is a building with better sound insulation | 03:37 |
| katsmeow-afk | ybit: here they shoot all nite, shoot on other people's property, drive with squealing tires and no muffler or tags, and dogs bark 24-7 | 03:37 |
| katsmeow-afk | it's seriously gone downhill | 03:37 |
| ybit | unless you know of some place like bonaroo which plays http://www.8bitpeoples.com/discography/by/receptors | 03:38 |
| kanzure | /discography/by/raptors would have been more interesting | 03:38 |
| ybit | or maybe bonnaroo needs to have a chip music stage | 03:38 |
| ybit | receptors was the latest track from 8bp | 03:39 |
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| ybit | and it's not terrible | 03:39 |
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| Aliks | yo | 04:32 |
| ybit | Hi Aliks | 06:02 |
| ybit | http://www.milw0rm.com/shellcode/linux/x86 | 06:08 |
| ybit | first time to see that | 06:08 |
| ybit | just kind of stumbled on it, wasn't looking for it specifically | 06:09 |
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| ybit | http://planet.openstreetmap.org/ | 08:47 |
| ybit | http://planet.openstreetmap.org/planet-latest.osm.bz2 7.7g | 08:49 |
| ybit | full planet is 12gb | 08:50 |
| kanzure | neat they have a fast connection | 08:51 |
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| Kuro_ | Hello. | 11:19 |
| kanzure | hi Kuro_ | 11:19 |
| Kuro_ | Sorry for not visiting for a few days. Although I managed to evade my family at Christmas, they caught up over the last couple of days. | 11:20 |
| * Kuro_ facepalms childishly | 11:21 | |
| kanzure | better luck next year | 11:21 |
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| randallagordon | ybit, I live in Oregon, out in the country with very few neighbors...by the time sound reaches them, the decible level has fallen off enough that it doesn't matter much...and everyone around me are machinests, loggers, motorsports enthusiasts (someone has a motoX track in their back yard), etc. etc... so we're all loud and no one cares | 12:29 |
| Utopiah | kristianpaul: http://media.ccc.de/browse/congress/2009/26c3-3672-de-advanced_microcontroller_programming.html | 12:44 |
| randallagordon | Utopiah, looks intriguing, methinks I'll be viewing several of these recordings | 12:55 |
| kristianpaul | Utopiah: yup | 12:56 |
| kristianpaul | Utopiah: but is just atmel based? | 12:56 |
| kristianpaul | i dont like i dont have intention learn atmel 8 bit. or 16, surelly 32bits | 12:57 |
| kristianpaul | actually i'm watch video about canibalism | 12:57 |
| kristianpaul | and GSM stuff | 12:57 |
| Utopiah | randallagordon: if you don't know CCC , it's usually material worth watching | 12:57 |
| Utopiah | kristianpaul: from another channel? ;) | 12:58 |
| randallagordon | I'm noting that | 12:58 |
| kristianpaul | Utopiah: ? | 12:58 |
| * randallagordon is wishing he knew german | 12:58 | |
| kristianpaul | Utopiah: did ypu wached the microcnotrolers video? | 12:58 |
| kristianpaul | randallagordon: not all is in german | 12:58 |
| randallagordon | The one I want to watch is :P | 12:58 |
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| Utopiah | kristianpaul: no, I just thought I shared the OpenBSC GSM vidz on blinkenshell | 12:59 |
| randallagordon | I'm snagging the uC and wireless power vids for later consumption | 12:59 |
| Kuro_ | Someone'll probably have subbed the German ones and they'll turn up on limewire tomorrow, most likely. :P | 12:59 |
| randallagordon | Oooh, I see proper turntables | 13:00 |
| randallagordon | And a proper broadcast studio | 13:01 |
| * randallagordon swoons | 13:01 | |
| Utopiah | randallagordon: overall CCC and conferences like HAR2009 https://har2009.org/ are rather tech savy and creative, not necesseraly world changing but... still very interesting IMHO | 13:02 |
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| randallagordon | HAR I've bumped into before | 13:03 |
| randallagordon | I'm rather addicted to TED videos already, you've provided me with more fuel...you're a pusher! a pusher! | 13:05 |
| * randallagordon prefers reading...but damnit there are too many good videos to ignore them now | 13:06 | |
| Utopiah | randallagordon: don't worry I won't send you a link to my RSS feeds video category | 13:07 |
| randallagordon | lol | 13:07 |
| randallagordon | why, thank you ;) | 13:07 |
| randallagordon | I've also recently began watching through these: http://techtv.mit.edu/genres/24-how-to/videos/142-machine-shop-1 | 13:07 |
| Kuro_ | I've been watching far too many similar videos lately and getting massive ISP bills. | 13:08 |
| randallagordon | Video (and audio, for that matter) is such...a commitment... I much prefer being able to skip around with more precision... | 13:08 |
| randallagordon | This has actually been something I've pondered on, re: how to develop a better A/V playback UI | 13:08 |
| randallagordon | Aye | 13:09 |
| Utopiah | randallagordon: IMHO that would require pre-processing the video to get the transcript then providing anchors | 13:09 |
| randallagordon | I bitch about having a 250GB cap, I really shouldn't... | 13:09 |
| randallagordon | Well...we all should, but, I know I don't have it all that bad | 13:09 |
| randallagordon | Utopiah, I agree...Hulu just started doing something similar | 13:10 |
| randallagordon | You can now search the Closed Caption system's captions... | 13:10 |
| randallagordon | After reading several interviews with the guys behind Hulu, I'd place my bets on seeing some amazing UI integration soon | 13:11 |
| * randallagordon just wishes it were OS | 13:11 | |
| randallagordon | I've toyed with the idea a tiny bit using audio and the HTML5 audio tag... http://randallagordon.com/jaraoke/ | 13:11 |
| randallagordon | Works in FF, Chrome and Safari...Opera needs to get a move on...and that other one, we won't mention | 13:12 |
| randallagordon | I should install Chrome Frame, heh | 13:13 |
| randallagordon | in fact, I think I shall | 13:13 |
| Kuro_ | Chrome's catching up with Firefox in overall "epic" recently. | 13:16 |
| randallagordon | I've switched over entirely | 13:16 |
| randallagordon | Now that there are a decent number of extension authors working quickly, nearly everything I used in FF has been ported or cloned | 13:17 |
| randallagordon | that's...odd...Jaraoke *kinda* works in Chrome Frame | 13:17 |
| randallagordon | Gotta Play/Pause/Play, however... | 13:18 |
| Kuro_ | Odd. | 13:18 |
| randallagordon | and the timing is lagging behind by about a full second | 13:18 |
| randallagordon | I'm torn...do I debug and figure out what's up, or just forget about it since it is technically still catering to IE users...the "gotta know" side is in an all out brawl with the "screw that" side... | 13:19 |
| Kuro_ | Small security hole. Some of your directories are open, you might want to fix the permissions of those | 13:20 |
| Kuro_ | I vote debug. | 13:20 |
| randallagordon | They're left open intentionally, I lock down those I don't want seen to the extent I don't want them seen | 13:21 |
| randallagordon | ...although I think I missed an important one after moving things around, now that I think about it... | 13:22 |
| Kuro_ | Ah, sorry. I think I've spent too long helping people on moznet support. | 13:22 |
| randallagordon | hehe, nah, 'tis generally a good catch...and poked my brain to fix one that did need locked down :) | 13:24 |
| Kuro_ | Glad to be of use. | 13:25 |
| randallagordon | I had forgotten to turn off indexing in my wordpress install...auto update failed with the last update, so I used the fresh install to clean house entirely...that's...not good ;) | 13:26 |
| randallagordon | it is already vulnerable enough | 13:27 |
| * randallagordon can't wait to get a dedicated WordPress (and other CMS) hosting box setup...sequester off that stuff as much as possible :) | 13:29 | |
| Kuro_ | Did Wordpress ever fix that SQL injection vulnerability? | 13:33 |
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| randallagordon | Which one? ;) | 14:07 |
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| Kuro_ | lol | 14:09 |
| genehacker | kanzure so did you discuss membership, aquire any new tools, and/or discuss possible projects at the hackerspace meeting? | 14:19 |
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| kanzure | hey forest | 14:49 |
| kanzure | genehacker: yes, yes, yes. | 14:49 |
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| MrClif | Hey kanzure, Morning... | 14:50 |
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| Trooem | kanzure, anything new, you need anything? | 14:53 |
| Trooem | turn on gmail~~~~~~~~ | 14:55 |
| Trooem | gtalk i mean | 14:56 |
| Trooem | let me know what up yowww. | 15:09 |
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| genehacker | what projects, what tools have been acquired, and what's the deal on membership | 16:01 |
| kanzure | what do you mean what projects? the same projects we've been talking about for years.. | 16:07 |
| kanzure | tools i already listed for you last year: http://heybryan.org/austin_fablab_2009-02-13.txt | 16:08 |
| kanzure | membership is covered by me. | 16:08 |
| MrClif | Hey Kanzure, hows it going? | 16:36 |
| MrClif | can you please point me at the IRC archives so I can keep up a little better? ;-) | 16:38 |
| QuantumG | http://designfiles.org/~bryan/hplusroadmap.log.tar.gz | 16:46 |
| QuantumG | dunno how updated it is | 16:46 |
| MrClif | Thanks.. | 16:47 |
| MrClif | Everyone seems pretty busy, is there a big project going on? | 16:47 |
| genehacker | no new stuff then | 16:50 |
| genehacker | ? | 16:50 |
| klord | does anyone happen to have an xbox 360? | 16:59 |
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| kanzure | MrClif: skdb :) | 17:43 |
| MrClif | Hey! | 18:41 |
| ybit | http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/dexter/ :: new dexter's laboratory with a diff animation style | 18:47 |
| ybit | randallagordon: that's so neat | 18:47 |
| randallagordon | What's neat? | 18:48 |
| ybit | your situation with neighbors being loud as well and not caring | 18:50 |
| randallagordon | Ah, indeed | 19:06 |
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| kanzure | hello parolang` | 19:22 |
| genehacker | well this is annoying | 19:30 |
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| QuantumG | genehacker's work cannot be underrated. | 19:40 |
| genehacker | my laser diode doesn't fit into my lens assembly | 19:55 |
| genehacker | it's no big deal | 19:55 |
| genehacker | I really need a high accuracy machine shop | 19:57 |
| MrClif | Say, does anyone have a favorite schematic capture app? I've used xcircuit a long time ago and it seems that gschem is another OS alternative. | 20:10 |
| MrClif | There is also Eagle: http://www.cadsoftusa.com/ but it's crippleware. | 20:15 |
| kanzure | huh it looks like i'm presenting at "Ignite Austin" | 20:16 |
| kanzure | anybody know wtf this is? | 20:16 |
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| kanzure | MrClif: have you tried gschem? | 20:17 |
| MrClif | no haven't yet. | 20:19 |
| MrClif | how does it compare to xcircuit? | 20:19 |
| kanzure | i haven't used either of them :( | 20:19 |
| genehacker | http://ignite.oreilly.com/ | 20:19 |
| MrClif | i was looking for a comparison but didn't find one. | 20:19 |
| kanzure | "ignite austin" isn't even on the list | 20:20 |
| genehacker | in other words it's just like the last presentation you did except that the slides automatically advance | 20:20 |
| kanzure | http://ignite.oreilly.com/austin/ | 20:20 |
| genehacker | http://ignite.oreilly.com/2009/08/announcing-ignite-austin-108.html | 20:20 |
| genehacker | oops | 20:20 |
| kanzure | my last presentation was 20min | 20:20 |
| genehacker | make it shorter | 20:21 |
| MrClif | I think you guys should speak at Maker's faire its comeing up in May i think. | 20:22 |
| genehacker | where? | 20:23 |
| MrClif | http://www.makerfaire.com/ | 20:23 |
| kanzure | i'm tired of speaking :( i want to get back to work | 20:23 |
| genehacker | oh california again | 20:23 |
| MrClif | its a very cool event. | 20:23 |
| kanzure | yes i've been. | 20:24 |
| MrClif | I guess most of you are located in Austin, no? | 20:24 |
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| genehacker | kanzure you know you really should up a system for managing people working on SKDB | 20:24 |
| kanzure | gee you mean like an IRC channel | 20:24 |
| kanzure | *gasp* | 20:25 |
| MrClif | I think they used to have one there too. | 20:25 |
| kanzure | MrClif: there's only 3 people in here who are in austin | 20:25 |
| genehacker | facepalm | 20:25 |
| MrClif | ah... | 20:25 |
| genehacker | anyway I think SKDB needs to be a fairly massive project in order to be successful | 20:25 |
| MrClif | I'm pretty sure the BA MF is the largest one. | 20:26 |
| kanzure | does anyone have some parametric CAD files for 80/20 | 20:26 |
| genehacker | then again I might have unrealistic expectations of what I want SKDB to do | 20:26 |
| MrClif | May 22 and 23rd 2010 put it on your calendar! :-) | 20:26 |
| genehacker | 80/20? | 20:26 |
| genehacker | oh | 20:27 |
| MrClif | you mean 80% of a project gets done in 20% of the time? | 20:27 |
| kanzure | palmface | 20:27 |
| genehacker | no | 20:27 |
| kanzure | http://8020.net/ | 20:27 |
| genehacker | 80/20 the construction system | 20:27 |
| genehacker | http://www.8020.net/Design-Tools-31.asp | 20:28 |
| genehacker | here's this, but I'm sure you already saw that | 20:28 |
| kanzure | i don't want drawings | 20:28 |
| genehacker | what sort of parameters do you want? | 20:29 |
| kanzure | on every feature and dimension | 20:29 |
| genehacker | ok | 20:29 |
| genehacker | parameters as function of what? | 20:30 |
| genehacker | or is that necessary? | 20:30 |
| * kanzure sighs | 20:30 | |
| kanzure | as a function of my fscking input | 20:30 |
| genehacker | ok, so you have a square type part, do you want dimensions on every side or 2? | 20:34 |
| kanzure | every side | 20:36 |
| kanzure | is there some order to the 80/20 naming conventions? | 20:36 |
| genehacker | ok that's going to be hard | 20:37 |
| genehacker | on your cad program | 20:37 |
| genehacker | anyway why would you want trapezoidal parts | 20:37 |
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| genehacker | what file format? | 20:40 |
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| genehacker | *what file format would you like the part in? | 20:41 |
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| kanzure | IGES or STEP | 21:18 |
| kanzure | Utopiah: do you know if this is a good deal? http://developer.yahoo.com/search/boss/fees.html | 21:49 |
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| fenn | somewhere over nebraska... | 22:29 |
| genehacker | another meteor? | 22:29 |
| fenn | heh never seen that before: http://www.ip-adress.com/ip_tracer/172.19.131.2 | 22:38 |
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| * bkero eats babies. | 22:47 | |
| fenn | omgwtfbabybbq | 22:51 |
| bkero | That's how we roast them in oregon | 22:51 |
| kanzure | you're boring me | 22:55 |
| kanzure | hm i share a birthday with isaac newton? | 22:56 |
| fenn | tomorrow is your birthday? | 22:58 |
| fenn | or today in two minutes | 22:58 |
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| fenn | wait a minute what time zone am i in | 22:58 |
| kanzure | january 4 | 22:58 |
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| kanzure | what time zone /are/ you in, anyway? | 22:59 |
| kanzure | and can ybit take the other room here? | 22:59 |
| fenn | mountain time i think | 22:59 |
| fenn | ok got a few more hours | 23:00 |
| fenn | what do you want for your birthday? | 23:00 |
| kanzure | the last 20 years back | 23:00 |
| fenn | that can be arranged... | 23:01 |
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| fenn | you dont get to keep your memories though | 23:01 |
| kanzure | so i think i'll be going to missouri sometime later this month to help jerry out | 23:02 |
| fenn | who is jerry again? | 23:03 |
| kanzure | jerry rutherford has been coming to the austin robot group meetings once a year for the past 5 years | 23:03 |
| kanzure | and somehow is now the president of that ol' gang | 23:04 |
| kanzure | just moved from st. louis down to austin | 23:04 |
| kanzure | he came in here a few days ago | 23:04 |
| Utopiah | kanzure: I didn't even know they were planning to monetize it that way. I think it's rather cheap for the service given. If you want to spend even less I would recommend APIs of emerging startups, they will be less stable but as they roll-out scalability test (alpha period) they usually don't charge (and can be more innovative than BOSS). | 23:07 |
| kanzure | do you know any better API services to be using | 23:08 |
| kanzure | i'm still sad that google stopped offering their web API. it sucked anyway- 1k/day search cap (who the hell only needs 1k/day?) | 23:08 |
| Utopiah | (btw if you use BOSS then http://www.datatables.org/ could be useful too) | 23:09 |
| kanzure | Utopiah: i've scraped 250k keywords / search queries, do you know where i can get a few million more? | 23:09 |
| kanzure | i know the wikipedia logs show 55M queries/day (incoming from google alone), but i don't think they offer full unfudged logs anywhere | 23:10 |
| kanzure | http://trendingtopics.org/ | 23:10 |
| Utopiah | you can't just ask another API key faking being somebody else? | 23:11 |
| Utopiah | it's immoral but it might work ;) | 23:11 |
| kanzure | http://github.com/datawrangling/trendingtopics/tree/master | 23:12 |
| kanzure | 1 TB of wikipedia traffic stats on amazon http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/entry.jspa?externalID=2596 | 23:12 |
| kanzure | http://dammit.lt/ | 23:12 |
| Utopiah | nice | 23:13 |
| kanzure | er | 23:13 |
| kanzure | http://dammit.lt/wikistats/ | 23:13 |
| fenn | where did they get the data? | 23:13 |
| Utopiah | would be nice if it could provide some kind of trails | 23:13 |
| Utopiah | fenn: "data is regularly logged from the wikipedia squid proxy by Domas Mituzas" | 23:14 |
| Utopiah | kanzure: http://www.programmableweb.com/api/yahoo-boss provides a "More APIs in Search" feature so usually it's a nice place to find alternatives (also http://www.altsearchengines.com/ is less structured, you can't order by free APIs, but they offer very specialized engines) | 23:17 |
| kanzure | fenn: http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/08/06/24/1552225.shtml mentions domas | 23:19 |
| Utopiah | kristianpaul: on CKAN http://media.ccc.de/browse/congress/2009/26c3-3647-de-ckan_apt-get_for_the_debian_of_data.html | 23:23 |
| Aliks | hello | 23:33 |
| Aliks | can I get an opinion on a site feature? | 23:34 |
| Aliks | www.campaignagainstaging.org <--- there are quotes at the top of each page.. is that annoying as all hell, or is that a good thing? | 23:35 |
| Aliks | <Aliks> should I limit that to displaying just on the home page? if so, will it make it less likely for people to think we have a lot of supporters, and less likely to add quotes? | 23:35 |
| fenn | Aliks: it'd be cooler if you had selected inspirational quotes that aren't about donating | 23:49 |
| fenn | wow the plane really doesn't like uploading | 23:54 |
| fenn | ah well just as good halfway done: http://fennetic.net/irc/transparent-terminals.png | 23:56 |
| Aliks | fenn, they arent about donating | 23:56 |
| fenn | i finally realized i had to turn on desktop effects to get real transparency | 23:57 |
| Aliks | "support" is in the "i agree" sense | 23:57 |
| fenn | well it sounds like it's about money | 23:57 |
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