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| CIA-44 | skdb: kanzure * r ef1cea8 /octopart.py: skdb + octopart => pure win | 00:01 |
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| ybit | post abundance :P | 00:24 |
| kanzure | what? | 00:24 |
| ybit | i caught myself saying that, i just thought it was silly | 00:25 |
| genehacker | oh man I just thought of something pure evil | 00:28 |
| kanzure | microsoft windows? | 00:29 |
| genehacker | no initiating a DDOS attack on all people in the sparkfun chat room when freeday begins | 00:29 |
| QuantumG | nice | 00:29 |
| genehacker | hold that thought I need to aquire some blood of the innocents to sacrifice to the demon god bill gates to keep my computer running | 00:31 |
| katsmeow-afk | must they be in sparkfun when buying commences? | 00:50 |
| kanzure | no you just have to have their IP address | 00:51 |
| kanzure | and assume that it doesn't change within the next few hours | 00:51 |
| ybit | hrm | 01:04 |
| ybit | what material is this made out of http://media.photobucket.com/image/the%20most%20futuristic%20architecture/epiac1216/DubaiOpera.jpg | 01:04 |
| ybit | or this http://mrshara.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/the-most-futuristic-house1.jpg | 01:05 |
| ybit | or this http://paprikalab.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/md1.jpg | 01:05 |
| ybit | http://www.softsailor.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/unstudio-burnham-pavilion-01.jpg | 01:05 |
| ybit | this stuff looks uber cool | 01:05 |
| ybit | http://sourcing.community.mfg.com/category/industry | 01:18 |
| ybit | i found that somewhat interesting | 01:19 |
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| timschmidt | ybit: probably many different materials. All painted. :-/ | 01:47 |
| timschmidt | fiberglass is commonly used to achieve similar results on smaller scales though. | 01:49 |
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| QuantumG | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-bUVTBA-t4 | 02:03 |
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| genehacker | that laptop was disposed of improperly | 02:05 |
| genehacker | all dead laptops must have useful parts harvested, hacked into other projects, or recycled via fusion torch | 02:07 |
| genehacker | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_torch | 02:07 |
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| ybit | did doug treadwell and crew make the instruction checker specifically for skdb? | 03:00 |
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| ybit | what's the name of the project to save all sees, the facilities are all domes | 03:30 |
| ybit | global crop diversity trust, but that's not what i'm thinking of i suppose | 03:32 |
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| ybit | http://bayimg.com/image/eajflaaci.jpg | 04:33 |
| ybit | ^found the image on the hdd, now i just need a decent cbir service or brain cells that flicker away into uselessness | 04:34 |
| ybit | +don't | 04:34 |
| ybit | http://tinyeye.com | 04:36 |
| ybit | well that didn't work | 04:37 |
| genehacker | eden project | 04:43 |
| genehacker | you could use world's best image search engine | 04:44 |
| genehacker | people | 04:44 |
| genehacker | to do the job | 04:44 |
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| Utopiah | http://freebooksource.ws/blogroll/lego-software-power-tools-with-ldraw-mlcad-and-lpub/ | 06:32 |
| QuantumG | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IXYsDdPvbo | 06:53 |
| kanzure | Utopiah: pyldraw is already integrated into skdb :) | 07:10 |
| kanzure | well, partially integrated | 07:10 |
| Utopiah | nice | 07:22 |
| Utopiah | btw did you see the SIAI news about "molecular manufacturing" or sth? (in Palo Alto in few weeks iirc) | 07:22 |
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| Utopiah | http://www.singinst.org/blog/2010/01/05/foresight-2010-the-synergy-of-molecular-manufacturing-and-agi/ | 07:26 |
| QuantumG | yeah, Merkle has been snared by the religion.. I can't believe such awesome talent is being wasted on teaching. | 07:29 |
| Utopiah | "the religion" :) | 07:30 |
| kanzure | Utopiah: yes, fenn should be showing up there IIRC | 07:30 |
| Kuro_ | I won't be, although I probably would if I could. Agreed with QuantumG, though. | 07:32 |
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| Utopiah | Aliks: Im not sure to remember correctly but were you managing a website on aging? | 07:46 |
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| Utopiah | kanzure: regarding your study on time perception maybe http://knowfree.net/2010/01/designing-and-engineering-time-the-psychology-of-time-perception-in-software-2/ could provide useful references | 09:42 |
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| genehacker | argh, sparkfun is dead | 10:08 |
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| timothyschmidt | why am I not surprised? | 10:38 |
| timothyschmidt | is kanzure around? | 10:40 |
| genehacker | I think he's getting surgery | 10:41 |
| genehacker | right about now | 10:41 |
| * timothyschmidt wonders if his surgery went ok (it started at 7:00) | 10:41 | |
| timothyschmidt | Well... sparkfun managed to effectively DDOS itself. | 10:45 |
| timothyschmidt | woah! got it! | 10:48 |
| genehacker | got it? | 10:48 |
| genehacker | I got it | 10:48 |
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| genehacker | so tim did you submit a freeday end time guess? | 10:51 |
| timothyschmidt | nope | 10:51 |
| timothyschmidt | 11:03 EST taken? | 10:52 |
| genehacker | taken | 10:52 |
| genehacker | I don't think so | 10:52 |
| Trooem | what time is it there? | 10:55 |
| Trooem | how long is the surgery? | 10:55 |
| timothyschmidt | genehacker: have you managed to get anything in your cart? | 10:55 |
| timothyschmidt | It's 10:55 EST | 10:55 |
| timothyschmidt | 5 minutes to go | 10:55 |
| Trooem | oh my gawd, it's 4 hours?! | 10:56 |
| Trooem | sigh, hope he's alright... | 10:56 |
| timothyschmidt | I have no clue how long the surgery is | 10:56 |
| timothyschmidt | I would guess not that long though | 10:56 |
| genehacker | stuff is in cart, finger on trigger | 10:56 |
| Trooem | ok | 10:56 |
| genehacker | though if sparkfun impleents you have to put start at checkout then I' screwed | 10:57 |
| genehacker | also y /\/\ key is broken | 10:57 |
| timothyschmidt | awesome | 10:58 |
| timothyschmidt | you are now required to type /\/\ in place of every m. | 10:59 |
| genehacker | FIRING | 11:00 |
| ybit | wow | 11:02 |
| timothyschmidt | ? | 11:02 |
| ybit | sparkfun is taking a hit | 11:02 |
| timothyschmidt | yup | 11:02 |
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| genehacker | F5 F5 F5 | 11:03 |
| ybit | gracias genehacker for knowing the name | 11:03 |
| genehacker | trying for discount woo!!!! | 11:05 |
| timothyschmidt | $1400 given away | 11:21 |
| genehacker | I lost the bet | 11:21 |
| timothyschmidt | me too | 11:21 |
| genehacker | still ti/\/\ed ouot | 11:22 |
| timothyschmidt | like an idiot, I failed to have my cart ready ahead of time. I've managed to pull it up, and click checkout. We'll see. | 11:22 |
| genehacker | I've /\/\anaged to click on the apply for discount thing | 11:27 |
| genehacker | I'm timing out like crazy though | 11:28 |
| genehacker | argh when the page finally loaded it was all blank | 11:30 |
| genehacker | f5 again... | 11:31 |
| timothyschmidt | $3500 given away | 11:36 |
| timothyschmidt | %5k now | 11:36 |
| genehacker | 5000 given away | 11:36 |
| timothyschmidt | gah $5k | 11:36 |
| genehacker | argh | 11:36 |
| genehacker | can't get through | 11:36 |
| timothyschmidt | keep trying | 11:37 |
| genehacker | I am | 11:37 |
| genehacker | I accidently hit the back button though | 11:37 |
| timothyschmidt | ouch | 11:38 |
| genehacker | got back to the page I think | 11:39 |
| genehacker | wtf | 11:40 |
| genehacker | page loaded and there's nothing there | 11:40 |
| genehacker | trying again | 11:42 |
| timothyschmidt | $6,700 last I saw | 11:48 |
| genehacker | where are you at tim? | 11:49 |
| genehacker | are you stuck on the checkout? | 11:49 |
| timothyschmidt | signing in :( | 11:49 |
| genehacker | that sucks | 11:49 |
| timothyschmidt | I was totally unprepared | 11:49 |
| genehacker | I prepared | 11:50 |
| timothyschmidt | with the frequency I can get pages to load, had I prepared, I'd already have checked out. | 11:50 |
| genehacker | I prepared, I can't get checked out | 11:51 |
| genehacker | checkout page is loading | 11:53 |
| genehacker | timeout | 11:53 |
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| genehacker | <$8000 spent | 11:55 |
| timothyschmidt | $10k | 11:55 |
| genehacker | trying for the discount again | 11:56 |
| genehacker | 12000 | 11:56 |
| timothyschmidt | $13k | 12:00 |
| genehacker | 14k | 12:01 |
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| genehacker | 20k | 12:15 |
| genehacker | 25k | 12:19 |
| ybit | sparkfun's homepage loads if you go through the google linkage it seems | 12:19 |
| genehacker | the checkout page doesn't | 12:20 |
| ybit | think i'm going to get a gift card | 12:27 |
| kanzure | Utopiah: all of the studies on time perception always deal with <1hr events :( i want >1week | 12:27 |
| genehacker | you ok kanzure? | 12:28 |
| genehacker | didn'y ou just have surgery? | 12:28 |
| kanzure | i am in severe pain | 12:28 |
| genehacker | hope you get better | 12:28 |
| kanzure | ybit: you should try loading sparkfun from designfiles.org with your ssh login | 12:35 |
| kanzure | since the connection is faster | 12:35 |
| genehacker | really? | 12:36 |
| ybit | HRM | 12:36 |
| genehacker | are you participating in the sparkfun server rape too kanzure? | 12:36 |
| ybit | kanzure: that's a decent idea | 12:36 |
| ybit | gps receiver, jpeg camera, rfid, ultrasonic range finder! oh my | 12:38 |
| genehacker | are you able to get anything ybit? | 12:38 |
| kanzure | genehacker: no | 12:39 |
| ybit | i'm able to pull up stuff, i just don't think i'm going to be able to checkout before the 100k mark is reached | 12:40 |
| ybit | i'm not too worried, i'm not that strapped for cash that i can't get it later | 12:40 |
| genehacker | 86k ybit | 12:40 |
| ybit | i'm going for th sparkfun gift certificate so i can choose later :) | 12:40 |
| kanzure | hah | 12:40 |
| genehacker | you can't do that | 12:41 |
| genehacker | they won't let you buy gift certificates on freeday with free money | 12:41 |
| ybit | who says? | 12:42 |
| ybit | did they blog about this? | 12:42 |
| genehacker | they did | 12:42 |
| ybit | that's lame | 12:42 |
| * ybit is entertained watching family learn to use their computers | 12:43 | |
| ybit | it's a snow day here | 12:43 |
| ybit | katsmeow-afk: did you get any? | 12:44 |
| genehacker | it was an ice day here | 12:44 |
| ybit | 20 secs ago: 95k | 12:44 |
| ybit | i give up | 12:44 |
| genehacker | noooooo | 12:44 |
| ybit | http://google.com/trends | 12:46 |
| ybit | hot searches: sparkfun is #1, #7 is: what comes after a trillion :P | 12:47 |
| kanzure | hah even my autoblogs have "sparkfun" on them | 12:48 |
| kanzure | they pull in topics based off of current google trends | 12:48 |
| kanzure | but unfortunately it's nothing actually about sparkfun itself | 12:48 |
| genehacker | can I see on of these autoblogs? | 12:48 |
| kanzure | i'll send you a link | 12:49 |
| genehacker | it looks like a real blog | 12:49 |
| genehacker | does it get you any money? | 12:49 |
| ybit | ooh ooh, i wanna see | 12:49 |
| kanzure | fenn: http://www.ti-estore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=eZ430-Chronos-433 | 12:51 |
| kanzure | genehacker: no, google says it gets 0 hits/day but my internal stats say 150 hits/day | 12:52 |
| kanzure | so.. i might be getting some adsense clicks but they're not recorded | 12:52 |
| genehacker | why are you doing this again? to mess with the blogosphere or make money | 12:54 |
| kanzure | um just a little experiment | 12:54 |
| genehacker | in spam? | 12:54 |
| kanzure | just wondering about web traffic.. how much is there, how easy is it to obtain. meh | 12:55 |
| genehacker | I got an idea about how to obtain web traffic | 12:55 |
| genehacker | make a ridiculous conspiracy theory site generator | 12:55 |
| genehacker | generate lot's of horrible website with horrible colors and graphics and then suggest some very ridiculous stuff | 12:57 |
| genehacker | should be pretty easy | 12:57 |
| * Trooem is convinced time travel is possible. | 12:59 | |
| genehacker | dammit free day is over | 12:59 |
| genehacker | how so trooem | 13:00 |
| parolang | Time travel is possible, and that is what the government uses to control us. | 13:00 |
| parolang | :D | 13:00 |
| Trooem | time can be bent like a pretzel, and you can go back to it's stream with enough power :) | 13:01 |
| genehacker | prove it | 13:01 |
| parolang | But seriously, if people ever did figure out how to travel through time, I don't see how the technology *wouldn't* be exploited for nefarious ends. | 13:02 |
| Trooem | einstein already proved it | 13:05 |
| Trooem | time is relative | 13:05 |
| Trooem | and different in all areas and places | 13:06 |
| Trooem | and it flows through gravity or something | 13:06 |
| Trooem | so essentially it's possible | 13:06 |
| Trooem | it's about power though, and you need power of a star | 13:06 |
| Trooem | then you can go back in time | 13:06 |
| parolang | Okay, this discussion isn't going to last long :) | 13:07 |
| Trooem | hahahahahhaha | 13:10 |
| Trooem | all theories | 13:10 |
| genehacker | theories are supported by evidence | 13:36 |
| kanzure | yawn | 13:43 |
| kanzure | you guys are boring | 13:43 |
| bkero | It's before 11AM | 13:43 |
| bkero | WHat do you expect? | 13:43 |
| kanzure | what is the word for the chinese do-it-yourself electronics shops? | 13:43 |
| bkero | Pacific time is the only canonical time :P | 13:43 |
| bkero | kanzure: shinseng or something, I've tried remembering | 13:43 |
| kanzure | i can't spell it worth shit | 13:44 |
| kanzure | i know it starts with shin or shen | 13:44 |
| kanzure | shanzai | 13:44 |
| kanzure | http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://www.tigoe.net/blog/category/environment/295/&usg=AFQjCNE0L1Hudex7dFPP0hKZksDRFwZRGQ | 13:44 |
| kanzure | er | 13:44 |
| kanzure | http://www.tigoe.net/blog/category/environment/295/ | 13:44 |
| bkero | Yea | 13:45 |
| kanzure | there we go | 13:45 |
| kanzure | Trooem: i hear you have chinese friends | 13:45 |
| bkero | THat's probably the best example we have of an open hardware market | 13:45 |
| kanzure | Trooem: could you read that please? and see if you know anyone into that, or anyone who knows someone into that | 13:45 |
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| Trooem | ok | 13:52 |
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| kanzure | there's a shanzai facebook group | 14:54 |
| kanzure | http://www.amazon.com/Conspiracy-Cells-Immortal-Medical-Scandal/dp/0887060994 | 14:56 |
| kanzure | see also the email "Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks" | 14:56 |
| kanzure | http://www.clonedinchina.com/ | 15:03 |
| kanzure | http://iphonasia.com/ | 15:03 |
| kanzure | 山寨 | 15:03 |
| kanzure | shānzhài | 15:03 |
| kanzure | someone stalk this guy: http://rejon.org/ | 15:04 |
| kanzure | in particular see: http://rejon.org/2009/12/shanzhai-vs-qi-inside-making-legal-open-source-in-china-at-tedxguangzhou/ | 15:04 |
| kanzure | haven't seen this one yet.. http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Main_Page | 15:06 |
| kanzure | ah they're in #qi-hardware | 15:07 |
| kanzure | kristianpaul is already in there? bah | 15:07 |
| kristianpaul | kanzure: bee ! | 15:08 |
| kristianpaul | :p | 15:09 |
| kanzure | kevin carson's "the homebrew industrial revolution" http://c4ss.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/C4SS-Desktop-Manufacturing.pdf | 15:09 |
| kanzure | http://fabricatorz.com/ | 15:11 |
| ybit | http://8bitcollective.com/members/Sabrepulse/ | 15:12 |
| ybit | http://8bitcollective.com/members/Fighter+X/ | 15:12 |
| kanzure | http://www.xmos.com/ | 15:14 |
| kanzure | i remember listening to sabrepulse. meh. | 15:14 |
| Trooem | http://shanzai.com/index.php/market-mayhem/news/137-crackdown-on-shenzhen-shanzhai-pirates | 15:16 |
| Trooem | this here is a good site. dedicated to shanzai's. | 15:17 |
| Trooem | hmm | 15:17 |
| Trooem | so much info | 15:17 |
| Trooem | but what do we exactly want from them? how shall we deal with them? | 15:17 |
| Trooem | must know this before approach, | 15:17 |
| Trooem | otherwise they won't take us seriously. | 15:17 |
| ybit | http://8bitcollective.com/music/Monster!+Monster! | 15:21 |
| kanzure | interesting.. i found someone named "liutongzhi" and he's part of thezeitgeistmovement.com | 15:34 |
| kanzure | liuliu2288@sina.com | 15:35 |
| kanzure | http://www.openhw.org/ | 15:37 |
| kanzure | hmm looks like they're doing an ARM http://www.openhw.org/project/index_view_540.html | 15:37 |
| kanzure | http://group.ednchina.com/166/ | 15:38 |
| kanzure | a lot of FPGA fandom | 15:38 |
| * Trooem is watching Mickey's Christmas Carol. With Scrooge Mcduck. my way of resting. :P | 15:42 | |
| * Trooem likes T & T Supermarket with the chinese food and bread | 15:54 | |
| Trooem | is there T & T in USA? | 15:54 |
| Trooem | hahahha | 15:54 |
| kanzure | pirated arduino book: http://www.darelease.com/forums/ebooks-tutorials/15160-cool-projects-open-source-hardware.html | 16:01 |
| kanzure | hey look at this.. http://affectiveengineering.com/blog/jkantarek/using-github-storing-open-source-hardware-projects | 16:05 |
| kanzure | http://github.com/jkantarek/Electronics-Projects/tree/master/Designs/Bio-belt/ | 16:06 |
| kanzure | stalk: Jeff Kantarek | 16:06 |
| kanzure | see #pumpingstationone and http://pumpingstationone.org/ | 16:08 |
| ybit | kanzure: will you call jorge barrea and ask where the design files are? | 16:09 |
| ybit | i'll call if you can give me the # | 16:09 |
| kanzure | http://affectiveengineering.com/blog/jkantarek/creating-your-first-git-hardware-repository | 16:09 |
| kanzure | ybit: 617 275 6050 | 16:10 |
| ybit | calling | 16:10 |
| kanzure | anyone answering | 16:12 |
| ybit | nope | 16:14 |
| ybit | was that his business phone? | 16:14 |
| kanzure | no, cell | 16:15 |
| ybit | that's strange, i didn't even get a voicemail indicator, it just kept ringing | 16:15 |
| kanzure | ok maybe not | 16:15 |
| kanzure | since it's a boston number it might have been where-ever he was working at MIT | 16:15 |
| Trooem | Registrant Contact: | 16:16 |
| Trooem | affectiveengineering.com Private Registrant affectiveengineering.com@proxy.dreamhost.com | 16:16 |
| Trooem | A Happy DreamHost Customer | 16:16 |
| Trooem | 417 Associated Rd #324 | 16:16 |
| Trooem | Brea, CA 92821 | 16:16 |
| Trooem | US | 16:16 |
| Trooem | +1.2139471032 | 16:16 |
| Trooem | who knows :) | 16:16 |
| kanzure | Trooem: that's a different guy | 16:17 |
| Trooem | oh ok sorry :) | 16:17 |
| kanzure | http://www.cnc-projects.de/ | 16:18 |
| * ybit calls mfg | 16:18 | |
| ybit | who here speaks spanish again? | 16:18 |
| kanzure | oh shit the pain meds just stopped | 16:18 |
| kanzure | ybit: if you're able to get mitch on the line i'll be impressed | 16:18 |
| Trooem | check out his twitter: | 16:19 |
| Trooem | http://twitter.com/jkantarek | 16:19 |
| ybit | prepare to not be impressed | 16:19 |
| ybit | and shoot up some meds while you're at it | 16:19 |
| kanzure | Trooem: yeah i already found him, i told you he's in #pumpstationone | 16:19 |
| Trooem | take meds frequently in beginning.. | 16:19 |
| Trooem | as ordered by docs. | 16:19 |
| Trooem | ok ok | 16:19 |
| Trooem | hahahha | 16:19 |
| kanzure | wtf he owns freethinking.com ? | 16:20 |
| kanzure | ybit: which number did you dial? | 16:21 |
| ybit | for mfg? | 16:21 |
| kanzure | yes | 16:21 |
| ybit | i haven't yet, calling +1 770-444-9686 though | 16:22 |
| kanzure | i think debbie jonke is his personal assistant | 16:24 |
| ybit | on the phone | 16:29 |
| ybit | they pointed me to jorge | 16:30 |
| ybit | because the files 'were turned over in confidence', uhuh | 16:31 |
| ybit | so we need to track down jorge | 16:31 |
| kanzure | who did you talk with? | 16:33 |
| kanzure | what's going on here? http://genedesigner.org/ and http://github.com/notadoctor/GeneDesign/tree/master and http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16481661 | 16:34 |
| ybit | er, a girl, she told me, but I wasn't paying attention | 16:34 |
| ybit | they were real nice, I don't think they were trying to cover up anything | 16:35 |
| kanzure | oops | 16:35 |
| kanzure | http://genedesign.org/ | 16:35 |
| kanzure | http://github.com/GeneDesign/GeneDesign | 16:36 |
| kanzure | kristianpaul: fenn should be looking into hooking up replicatorg to skdb soon ;-) | 16:40 |
| kristianpaul | hey nice :) | 16:40 |
| kanzure | ybit: did you see octopart.py? | 16:40 |
| ybit | i'm on the phone atm | 16:54 |
| ybit | grr | 16:55 |
| ybit | why is there even an 'internet on/off' button on the cable modem | 16:56 |
| ybit | anyway, one sec, i'll run it | 16:56 |
| QuantumG | OMG, you've got the President's cable modem, don't press that button!! | 16:57 |
| ybit | may want to list python-curl as a requirement in installing | 16:57 |
| ybit | hrm, so what's the other argument that is needed to run it? | 16:57 |
| * ybit doesn't see it in python atm | 16:57 | |
| ybit | in the python source file* | 16:57 |
| ybit | everyone here, join http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=11911880588&topic=13696 if you will and demand cad files | 16:58 |
| ybit | holy crap | 16:58 |
| ybit | wow, octopart.py is my hero | 16:58 |
| kanzure | ybit: python octopart.py resistor | 16:59 |
| ybit | right | 16:59 |
| ybit | i put in screw though | 16:59 |
| kanzure | what's wrong with screw? | 16:59 |
| ybit | nothing | 17:00 |
| kanzure | "No JSON object could be decoded" | 17:00 |
| kanzure | oh wait, i have a buggy version | 17:00 |
| * kanzure grits his teeth and makes some corrections | 17:00 | |
| ybit | while you're at it, claw the chalk board | 17:01 |
| kanzure | what? | 17:01 |
| ybit | gritting teeth/clawing chalkboard, stuff that make people cringe | 17:02 |
| QuantumG | bite some paper | 17:02 |
| ybit | that's a first | 17:02 |
| ybit | watching football | 17:02 |
| QuantumG | vote for the republican party | 17:02 |
| ybit | this could turn into a lot of noise quickly | 17:03 |
| QuantumG | watch a film with Helen Hunt in it. | 17:04 |
| ybit | anyone have an estimate how much electricity a machine shop uses on a monthly basis? | 17:04 |
| ybit | katsmeow-afk: how are you doing in this weather, haven't heard from you | 17:05 |
| katsmeow-afk | ybit, trying to keep from being under the car | 17:06 |
| katsmeow-afk | it's cold, i can keep one room warm, one room ~60F, the rest of the house is ~10F above whatever it is outside | 17:06 |
| katsmeow-afk | wierd too, because i bought a wooded 12 acres so i'd have fuel to keep warm, but dogs rule | 17:07 |
| katsmeow-afk | atm, light snow dust is sticking to leaves on the ground, that's it | 17:08 |
| katsmeow-afk | what passes for humans seem to be freaked about it | 17:08 |
| kanzure | wonder if i might be able to convince andres to add scientific instruments and supplies | 17:09 |
| CIA-44 | skdb: kanzure * r 4f0c8f8 / (3 files in 3 dirs): minor update to octopart.py | 17:12 |
| ybit | $2k for a solar turbine | 17:14 |
| ybit | http://openfarmtech.org/index.php?title=Solar_Turbine_Prototype_at_Factor_e_Farm | 17:14 |
| kanzure | $2k for my foot up your ass | 17:14 |
| kanzure | who comes up with these cost estimates anyway? | 17:14 |
| katsmeow-afk | those trying to rip off those rich with low iq | 17:14 |
| ybit | We now have a system design that costs $750 for all the materials for intercepting 30 kW of solar energy and focusing it on a 2” diameter receiver tube – with 48-fold solar concentration ratio. This cost does not include the heat engine or controlled feed-water delivery. | 17:14 |
| ybit | kanzure: marcin came up with that figure | 17:15 |
| kanzure | is that materials cost? | 17:15 |
| ybit | you can see the bom on the liink | 17:15 |
| ybit | yes | 17:15 |
| kanzure | hm i typed that before i saw it was from openfarmtech | 17:15 |
| ybit | http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/?p=290 <- is where the above sentences came from | 17:16 |
| katsmeow-afk | i put up a 50ft tower for radio/tv and wind, but dogs happened, so it's for sale | 17:31 |
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| ybit | how much do you want for it katsmeow-afk? | 17:32 |
| katsmeow-afk | dunno, it's 6ft segments, made to be tiltdown, got large rotator for it, and 100+ft of hardline coax | 17:33 |
| katsmeow-afk | aluminum tripod | 17:33 |
| katsmeow-afk | climbable | 17:34 |
| katsmeow-afk | prolly need guys if you plan on a large windmill | 17:34 |
| katsmeow-afk | i was gonna use it to tilt up a 50ft steel base, and then attach the aluminum to the top of that | 17:35 |
| katsmeow-afk | it's ~30 yrs old, looks new, factory guys that built it tested it by tilting it to horiz and then sitting out on the "top" of it | 17:36 |
| katsmeow-afk | alrighty then.... bbl | 17:39 |
| kanzure | ybit: i just talked with mitch free | 17:45 |
| kanzure | he's a really nice guy | 17:45 |
| flamt | http://pastebin.ca/1741950 drug ais | 17:45 |
| flamt | :3 | 17:45 |
| kanzure | jorge has absolutely no interest in open source | 17:45 |
| flamt | :3 | 17:45 |
| flamt | be kind | 17:45 |
| flamt | (linux users) | 17:45 |
| flamt | brb | 17:45 |
| kanzure | he wants me to write an email | 17:47 |
| kanzure | time to amp up the email voodoo magic | 17:47 |
| kanzure | let's see.. how to explain this to mitch free | 17:47 |
| kanzure | fenn: have you been stalking mitch for a while? can you drop some hints | 17:50 |
| Trooem | there are two ways in which people are controlled - first of all frighten people and secondly demoralize them | 17:54 |
| Trooem | you may want to use these ideas... | 17:54 |
| kanzure | .. | 17:55 |
| Trooem | i'm kidding. ROFL!!!!!!!! | 17:55 |
| Trooem | just go backwards on those above, and you'll be fine. :) | 17:56 |
| katsmeow-afk | wierd words | 17:58 |
| kanzure | s/wierd/weird/ | 17:58 |
| kanzure | i know, it's weird | 17:58 |
| ybit | how did you get in touch with mitch? | 17:59 |
| katsmeow-afk | morals = "ability to tell right vs wrong", and morale = "enthusiasm",,, so demoralised people are enthusiastic about not telling right from wrong? | 17:59 |
| kanzure | ybit: i talked with his secretary | 18:00 |
| Trooem | i am sorry. english isn't my first language. understand it however your intelligence reflects it on you... | 18:00 |
| kanzure | err who turned out to be his wife.. oops | 18:00 |
| ybit | so what did he say? | 18:00 |
| kanzure | well my phone was dying so he asked for an email instead | 18:01 |
| kanzure | the drugs seem to be hurting my brains | 18:01 |
| kanzure | i can't seem to type out a good email | 18:01 |
| Trooem | i think imposing on what is right and wrong to people = demoralization. and not respecting their beliefs.. | 18:01 |
| Trooem | some people use that as control :P | 18:02 |
| * Trooem is missing Michael Jackson :( | 18:14 | |
| katsmeow-afk | we are using that to control you | 18:20 |
| Trooem | i know i know | 18:20 |
| Trooem | why, take mercy on me. | 18:20 |
| Trooem | i am but a lonely foreigner. like fez from the 70's show... | 18:20 |
| Trooem | you must like me. | 18:20 |
| Trooem | learn to love me. | 18:21 |
| Trooem | ahahahaha | 18:21 |
| katsmeow-afk | being "foreign" is fine with me, i feel like i am from Mars, which is also wierd | 18:22 |
| Trooem | hehe i believe our souls are from different planets, so our mind sees different things :))))) | 18:24 |
| Trooem | like Dr.Brian Weiss says from... Oprah | 18:25 |
| Trooem | past life regression hypnosis | 18:25 |
| Trooem | we split from different planets | 18:25 |
| Trooem | we were aliens in our past lives! | 18:25 |
| Trooem | ahahahaahah!!!!!! | 18:26 |
| fenn | "jorge has absolutely no interest in open source"?? | 18:29 |
| * kanzure nods | 18:30 | |
| fenn | he seemed pretty pumped when writing to the emc mailing list a couple years ago | 18:30 |
| kanzure | he was just a hired consultant | 18:30 |
| kanzure | hrm | 18:30 |
| kanzure | okay well i've never met jorge | 18:30 |
| kanzure | but mitch made it sound like jorge was uninterested | 18:30 |
| kanzure | and mitch has no idea where jorge is these days :( | 18:31 |
| fenn | http://www.mail-archive.com/emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net/msg06196.html | 18:31 |
| fenn | well. that thread anyway | 18:31 |
| kanzure | fenn: any tips before i send this email to mitch | 18:31 |
| fenn | wait until you aren't high on pain meds? :) | 18:33 |
| fenn | anyway it depends what you want to do | 18:33 |
| kanzure | wait until i'm high on adderall instead? | 18:33 |
| fenn | if the goal is just to get the files that should be pretty straightforward | 18:33 |
| fenn | but he seems like an interesting person too | 18:34 |
| kanzure | it will be interesting to go back and see whether or not this email sucks | 18:38 |
| kanzure | i should have probably sent it to you first | 18:38 |
| kanzure | oh well | 18:38 |
| fenn | http://marcansoft.com/sparkgraph/sparkfun.png | 18:40 |
| kanzure | 2400 huh | 18:43 |
| kanzure | wonder if the curve will drop slower than it rised | 18:43 |
| kanzure | if so it's a success i guess | 18:43 |
| fenn | i sort of wonder what the goal was | 18:44 |
| kanzure | do they hold these frequently? | 18:45 |
| kanzure | bbl | 18:46 |
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| Trooem | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjvoVpOrlbM&feature=related | 18:55 |
| Trooem | MJ song :) hahahaha | 18:56 |
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| ybit | fenn: taxes | 19:44 |
| * ybit is guessing | 19:44 | |
| kanzure | i thought that would have to be before the end of december, ybit? | 19:45 |
| ybit | yes | 19:51 |
| ybit | so, they fscked up this year and want to make sure they don't do it again | 19:51 |
| ybit | which makes no sense | 19:52 |
| kanzure | http://geekaustin.org/2010/01/07/austin-hackerspace-taking-shape <-- i'm the guy in the center of the photo | 20:01 |
| kanzure | also there's two cubespawns in thep hoto | 20:02 |
| kanzure | http://www.austinhackerspace.org/ | 20:04 |
| kanzure | since when do we have a wiki | 20:04 |
| kanzure | why aren't i told about these things? | 20:04 |
| ybit | omg, those people in the picture all look like nerds | 20:07 |
| QuantumG | I thought they looked like gay rights activists | 20:08 |
| drazak | kanzure: you need more womenfolk | 20:10 |
| QuantumG | who's the guy in the cap? | 20:11 |
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| QuantumG | the only one facing the camera | 20:11 |
| QuantumG | that's not you kanzure, right? | 20:11 |
| drazak | I think it is | 20:14 |
| drazak | http://heybryan.org/ | 20:14 |
| drazak | he's the guy on the page | 20:15 |
| drazak | (duh) | 20:15 |
| QuantumG | oh well, that's what I get for not seeing a picture of you for 3+ years :) | 20:17 |
| drazak | can't believe I got a 7-10 split bowling today | 20:21 |
| QuantumG | did ya pick up the spare? | 20:22 |
| drazak | yeah | 20:23 |
| QuantumG | awesome | 20:23 |
| drazak | that's like a 1/650000 shot | 20:23 |
| QuantumG | I have a theory about bowling | 20:23 |
| QuantumG | the reason why there's so few good bowlers is because access to lanes to practice on is strictly controlled | 20:24 |
| QuantumG | expensive sport to master | 20:24 |
| drazak | nah | 20:25 |
| drazak | you can bowl during the 1dollar game things | 20:25 |
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| kanzure | did we know about this? http://code.google.com/p/cam-occ/ | 20:44 |
| QuantumG | tried it? | 20:47 |
| QuantumG | is there such a thing as a "virtual lathe"? | 20:51 |
| QuantumG | or is that so useless that no-one has ever written one? | 20:51 |
| drazak | you can do cubic splines | 20:58 |
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| drazak | which is basically what a lathe gives you | 20:59 |
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| QuantumG | yep, that's pretty much the opposite of what I was saying :) | 20:59 |
| kanzure | eric hunting showing up on the web: http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/the-incremental-housing-strat-project-and-the-and-the-adaptive-architecture-of-the-slums/2010/01/07 | 21:00 |
| kanzure | http://www.openwarfare.org/ | 21:03 |
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| genehacker | oh cool we got some cubespawns | 21:04 |
| genehacker | incomplete but we have them | 21:04 |
| ybit | at shmoocon this year, some guy is giving a talk on creating your own uav cheaply | 21:04 |
| genehacker | the DIY drones guy? | 21:05 |
| ybit | yeah | 21:05 |
| ybit | the prometheus or something | 21:06 |
| ybit | hah, that's pretty neat | 21:06 |
| kanzure | wonder where this comes from: http://integral.virishi.net/gnusha | 21:06 |
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| thesnark | hello | 21:09 |
| kanzure | no! | 21:09 |
| ybit | hexakopter looks like fun | 21:09 |
| fenn | welp techshop is real, it exists, and it's sorta depressing | 21:09 |
| bkero | Bad tools? | 21:09 |
| thesnark | haha, bad tools | 21:09 |
| fenn | nah it's just a different vibe from hackerspaces | 21:10 |
| fenn | "give us your money" everywhere | 21:10 |
| genehacker | do they impose thinking fees? | 21:10 |
| fenn | the tools looked ok based on my random sampling | 21:10 |
| fenn | genehacker: yes thinking is $75/hr with a 2 hour minimum | 21:11 |
| kanzure | i can't afford that | 21:11 |
| kanzure | let me think | 21:11 |
| kanzure | owait | 21:11 |
| genehacker | hahaha | 21:11 |
| fenn | bad customer no cookie! | 21:11 |
| genehacker | wouldn't it be a maximum if it was a fee on thinking | 21:11 |
| fenn | hm integral.. i thought that was some kind of spiritual/life coach thing | 21:12 |
| kanzure | me too | 21:12 |
| genehacker | argh having sympy trouble | 21:12 |
| kanzure | "Commercial advertisers in the United States have taken a page from China ad | 21:13 |
| kanzure | makers, this advertisement of Obama's sponsorship of Shanzhai | 21:13 |
| kanzure | "Blockberry" was being reported by Chinese Bloggers last year." | 21:13 |
| kanzure | huh | 21:14 |
| fenn | http://integral.virishi.net/feeds-all | 21:14 |
| kanzure | neat | 21:14 |
| kanzure | eh i'm on a list with "lesswrong".. dunno if that's good or bad | 21:15 |
| fenn | you need to drop your issue with eliezer.. it's counterproductive | 21:18 |
| genehacker | so in sympy solve can I multiply variables times symbols or is that forbiden? | 21:18 |
| fenn | <- sick of group dynamics | 21:18 |
| kanzure | why does eli ignore me :( | 21:19 |
| fenn | does he ignore you? | 21:19 |
| * kanzure nods | 21:20 | |
| fenn | well, um, have you asked him? | 21:20 |
| kanzure | asked him what? | 21:20 |
| fenn | why | 21:20 |
| kanzure | but yes i've been known to ask him questions | 21:20 |
| kanzure | actually i have not | 21:20 |
| kanzure | it's kind of childish to ask someone why they ignore you | 21:20 |
| kanzure | because if they are ignoring you, they'll ignore that question | 21:20 |
| fenn | or they might answer it | 21:21 |
| * kanzure writes up an email | 21:21 | |
| kanzure | what am i asking him, again? | 21:21 |
| kanzure | why he wants people to only focus on ai? | 21:21 |
| fenn | no you're asking him why he ignores you | 21:21 |
| kanzure | yeah but i might as well just get to the point if he's reading the email | 21:22 |
| fenn | but that is the point, don't overshoot | 21:22 |
| QuantumG | ai needs less people focused on it.. so you don't have to continually rule out people who have no idea what they're fuckin' on about. | 21:22 |
| fenn | ai needs some technical progress beyond 1980's level software | 21:23 |
| fenn | or at least find the right magic bullet (as opposed to the wrong one) | 21:24 |
| genehacker | screw AI, just figure out how our brains work | 21:24 |
| genehacker | or heck at least the brain of a jumping spider | 21:24 |
| fenn | genehacker have you read "on intelligence"? | 21:24 |
| kanzure | fenn: think of who you're talking to | 21:24 |
| QuantumG | well, the people reverse engineering the brain are not the same people who should be working on ai. | 21:24 |
| QuantumG | "on intelligence" was pathetic.. I wanted a refund. | 21:25 |
| kanzure | QuantumG: do you have an opinion on whole brain emulation and related research? | 21:25 |
| fenn | QuantumG: is there anything you don't hate? | 21:25 |
| kanzure | fenn, the book really wasn't that impressive | 21:25 |
| QuantumG | kanzure: take away the hype and it's great. | 21:25 |
| kanzure | QuantumG: there's hype? :) that's news to me | 21:25 |
| fenn | there isn't any hype | 21:26 |
| fenn | a few sci-fi novels and articles in fringe magazines | 21:26 |
| genehacker | well considering project blue brain isn't much of a big deal | 21:26 |
| kanzure | it isn't? | 21:26 |
| genehacker | it's overhyped | 21:26 |
| kanzure | why do you say that? | 21:26 |
| * fenn notes his breakfast cereal doesn't come with whole brain emulation | 21:27 | |
| kanzure | i mean, the idea of encoding neuroscience literature into computational models sounds good to me | 21:27 |
| genehacker | err maybe I'm confusing bluebrain with some other project | 21:28 |
| genehacker | oops | 21:29 |
| genehacker | it was the blue brain guy bashing an ibm project | 21:29 |
| genehacker | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/23/epfl_bluebrain_markram_modha/ | 21:29 |
| genehacker | bluebrain is the way to go | 21:30 |
| QuantumG | the whole "IBM has emulated an enitre cat brain!!!" crap | 21:30 |
| kanzure | yeah that wasn't the blue brain project | 21:30 |
| kanzure | the "emulated a cat brain" was just a giant ANN if anything | 21:30 |
| fenn | good enough for me | 21:30 |
| kanzure | which is certainly interesting and newsworthy | 21:30 |
| kanzure | but not a cat | 21:30 |
| kanzure | that's like saying anything of the order 1e9 is a cat :p | 21:30 |
| fenn | not particularly interested in having an electronic cat | 21:30 |
| kanzure | then don't advertise it as a cat, fenn | 21:31 |
| kanzure | blah | 21:31 |
| QuantumG | yeah.. I like seeing corps pouring money into research that they eventually publish.. | 21:31 |
| katsmeow-afk | http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/funeral-home-sends-dead-relatives-brain-family/print?id=9502105 | 21:31 |
| genehacker | now anyone have anyide what could be wrong with this line of code: solve(a*slope*sin(the)+a*cos(the)+(y1*slope+x1)(1-u)/u = 0, the) | 21:33 |
| kanzure | what's the error? | 21:33 |
| kanzure | oh | 21:33 |
| kanzure | you can't do something like this: | 21:33 |
| genehacker | keyword can't be an expression | 21:34 |
| kanzure | some_function(blah = 0, arrr) | 21:34 |
| kanzure | the "blah = 0" in particular is what might be giving you a problem | 21:34 |
| genehacker | the equation must be equal to 0 though | 21:34 |
| genehacker | oh ok that makes sense | 21:35 |
| kanzure | wtf is this? http://pastebin.com/d5e10f95 and why is "kanzure" on this list | 21:35 |
| kanzure | oh i bet this is sparkfun related | 21:36 |
| kanzure | yep "sparkfun" appears on the list | 21:36 |
| genehacker | yup that's sparkfun | 21:38 |
| ybit | will someone please some of this openwarfare crap on my family watching the college football game on tonight? | 21:41 |
| ybit | it's really odd hearing my uncle talk like he's from the ghetto after some team scores | 21:42 |
| genehacker | oh are you stuck with your family watching a football game? | 21:42 |
| genehacker | *too | 21:42 |
| ybit | and then he bursts into some elvis, wtf? | 21:42 |
| katsmeow-afk | that's universally southern tho | 21:42 |
| ybit | that's a nice space in austin | 21:43 |
| ybit | it looks spacious | 21:43 |
| genehacker | argh now I'm getting an argument must be a dictionary errr | 21:45 |
| genehacker | does this mean sympy can't solve my equation or I just need to debug some more? | 21:46 |
| fenn | genehacker: why dont you try with something simple first | 21:47 |
| genehacker | like what? | 21:49 |
| katsmeow-afk | fenn, you still need 12 inch in/mm dial calipers? <$30 @ http://www.amazon.com/Neiko-Pro-Grade-Digital-Stainless-Measuring/dp/B000EJUBBU/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_3 | 21:49 |
| genehacker | this is a fairly simple | 21:49 |
| kanzure | wait why do they get to post pictures | 21:52 |
| kanzure | i have this juicy set.. and was told not to post the images | 21:52 |
| kanzure | am i being treated differently because i'm economically worthless or something? | 21:53 |
| kanzure | delusions of persecution.. oh boy. | 21:53 |
| kanzure | maybe that's a side effect of the drugs | 21:53 |
| ybit | that or they know i'm a ninja and will figure out how to sneak in by looking at them | 21:53 |
| kanzure | "Professor Henry Markram, a doctor-turned-computer engineer, announced that his team would create the world's first artificial conscious and intelligent mind by 2018" | 21:54 |
| kanzure | http://fredlanga.blogspot.com/2010/01/true-ai-by-2018.html | 21:54 |
| kanzure | that's disappointing | 21:54 |
| ybit | bah, same stuff | 21:54 |
| kanzure | i mean, why would he make that claim | 21:54 |
| ybit | $ | 21:54 |
| ybit | and/or ego | 21:54 |
| genehacker | crap, sympy says it can't solve a simplified version of my equation | 21:54 |
| kanzure | nice open access neuroscience journal: http://frontiersin.org | 21:55 |
| ybit | what's the equation genehacker, what are you using sympy for? | 21:55 |
| * ybit needs ritalin, have been out of it for a couple of weeks now | 21:55 | |
| ybit | adrafanil was nice yesterday | 21:55 |
| fenn | kanzure: linear extrapolation | 21:55 |
| genehacker | I'm using sympy to solve a gear equation over and over to make a gear that meshes with a gear | 21:56 |
| ybit | but i snapped at every family member that pestered me with computer questions | 21:56 |
| genehacker | wolfram alpha was able to solve it, but it produced a huge messy equation | 21:57 |
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| kanzure | hello Aliks | 21:57 |
| ybit | but at some point, i feel i have a right, it took me 20 mins over the phone to explain to my dad how to turn on the comp. while @ h+ summit. anywhos, i'm going to go outside and refocus now | 21:57 |
| ybit | hi Aliks | 21:57 |
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| kanzure | hello JayDugger | 21:58 |
| JayDugger | Hello, kanzure. | 21:58 |
| genehacker | wolfram alpha can solve it but sympy can't | 21:59 |
| kanzure | genehacker: i bet you're just doing it wrong | 21:59 |
| JayDugger | Do you have that greeting scripted? If so, I'll feel no less obliged to respond. Machines act as if they've feelings. | 21:59 |
| kanzure | post your program on pastebin i guess | 21:59 |
| kanzure | JayDugger: no, it's me :) | 21:59 |
| JayDugger | A-ha! Another touch typist. | 21:59 |
| genehacker | I think I am too | 22:00 |
| kanzure | no you look at your keyboard, genehacker | 22:00 |
| genehacker | I'm going to try debug first | 22:01 |
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| genehacker | http://pastebin.com/d520f80a0 | 22:08 |
| genehacker | here's my test program with a very basic form of the equation I'm using | 22:09 |
| kanzure | "Mr. Tsutomu Yamaguchi was in Hiroshima on a business trip at the time of the first atomic explosion and then returned to his home in Nagasaki just in time for the second explosion. " | 22:15 |
| genehacker | well at least he survived | 22:18 |
| JayDugger | Just died of stomach cancer, IIRC. | 22:21 |
| JayDugger | Mr. Tsutomu, that is, not me. :) | 22:22 |
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| genehacker | dammit, I'm going to have to do this in mathematica | 22:51 |
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| kanzure | ack i forgot to beg mitch for the designs | 23:05 |
| kanzure | damn drugs :( | 23:06 |
| JayDugger | Good health has an opportunity cost? | 23:08 |
| genehacker | oh speaking of begging for designs I should probably bother hod lipson about posting some of the files for his rapid prototyped truss reconfiguring robot | 23:09 |
| JayDugger | Truss reconfiguring? That sounds interesting. Do any details, or better yet, photographs appear online? | 23:09 |
| Aliks | yawn | 23:10 |
| genehacker | a whole damn paper | 23:10 |
| JayDugger | Oh? | 23:10 |
| kanzure | ah right i forgot about mangafox | 23:10 |
| JayDugger | Open access, or subscription only? | 23:10 |
| genehacker | hold on | 23:11 |
| kanzure | JayDugger: if you need a paper, just give us a citation and preferably a link and we'll grab it for you | 23:11 |
| genehacker | http://ccsl.mae.cornell.edu/papers/REMAR09_Hjelle.pdf | 23:12 |
| genehacker | here you go | 23:12 |
| JayDugger | Thank you. | 23:12 |
| fenn | uh, what did you and mitch talk about if not the files? | 23:12 |
| kanzure | what he wants to do with them | 23:13 |
| kanzure | he wants a web interface to open source hardware | 23:13 |
| fenn | sounds great | 23:13 |
| * kanzure nods | 23:13 | |
| kanzure | and my phone was dying so i said i'd email him | 23:14 |
| kanzure | and he gave me an address | 23:14 |
| kanzure | he sounded really excited | 23:14 |
| kanzure | but i did ask about the files on the phone, and he said he still has them | 23:14 |
| fenn | well at least it wasn't reverse-vaporware | 23:14 |
| kanzure | what? | 23:15 |
| kanzure | vaporware that flows towards me? | 23:16 |
| fenn | "we made something but we forgot what we did" | 23:16 |
| JayDugger | Ha! That's a fine technical term. | 23:16 |
| fenn | well i had some image of a ghost pirate ship full of open source hardware designs floating off into the mist | 23:17 |
| fenn | never to be heard from again | 23:17 |
| JayDugger | Sailing into the mists of "Intellectual Property," and passing into the map region labeled "Here Be Patent Trolls?" | 23:18 |
| fenn | yar | 23:18 |
| kanzure | fenn: have you ever used JSON? | 23:18 |
| fenn | no but it looks pretty easy | 23:18 |
| kanzure | it seems like it has lists, dictionaries and other thingies | 23:18 |
| kanzure | but i'm cautious to conflate it with YAML too much | 23:18 |
| fenn | does it offer any advantages that yaml doesn't? | 23:19 |
| kanzure | haven't used it enough yet to know | 23:19 |
| kanzure | i just use python's simplejson module | 23:19 |
| kanzure | http://designfiles.org/skdb/octopart.py | 23:19 |
| kanzure | i need to parse in the data from JSON now | 23:20 |
| kanzure | and provide a simpler way to make up valid octopart query filters | 23:20 |
| kanzure | the latter is more fun than the former | 23:20 |
| fenn | where does octopart get their data? | 23:21 |
| kanzure | suppliers give them data | 23:21 |
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| kanzure | they write new code each time they get a new supplier onboard | 23:21 |
| fenn | um, why do they do that? | 23:21 |
| kanzure | and they parse whatever data they give them | 23:21 |
| fenn | i mean why do suppliers give them data | 23:21 |
| fenn | how did this all get started | 23:21 |
| kanzure | octopart got money from ycombinator | 23:21 |
| kanzure | i think they started with a search engine for datasheet PDF files | 23:22 |
| kanzure | not sure | 23:22 |
| kanzure | and then suppliers have an incentive to provide better data (straight from the horse's mouth) | 23:22 |
| kanzure | or something? | 23:23 |
| kanzure | hrm | 23:23 |
| fenn | ... | 23:23 |
| JayDugger | Can users rate product sheets on Octopart? | 23:23 |
| kanzure | not to my knowledge | 23:23 |
| JayDugger | As in, "this part does not work as the datasheet claims?" | 23:23 |
| kanzure | andres should be back in here eventually | 23:23 |
| Noahj | Maybe it's for comparison purposes, yeah | 23:23 |
| kanzure | and we can ask him one-on-one then | 23:23 |
| JayDugger | It would also help if Octopart managed obsolete parts. | 23:24 |
| fenn | JayDugger: so far octopart seems to be more like "where's the cheapest place to get an 8 bit shift register" | 23:24 |
| JayDugger | Ah... | 23:24 |
| JayDugger | Well, perhaps it will do more (of my job) over time. | 23:24 |
| Noahj | If I were a manufacturer of components I'd definitely send datasheets to octopart just so manufacturers of appliances, hackers, etc could see that my parts were clearly superior | 23:24 |
| fenn | what's your job? | 23:24 |
| kanzure | technical documentation | 23:24 |
| JayDugger | I work as a technician, maintaining flight simulators. | 23:24 |
| fenn | if you do component level repair it should be pretty useful already | 23:25 |
| JayDugger | I used to do project engineering and technical writing for the same employer. | 23:25 |
| JayDugger | But I tired of the long hours. Travel was okay, even if Home Sweet Hotel stopped being a joke. | 23:25 |
| JayDugger | I try to avoid component level repair. :) | 23:25 |
| JayDugger | It's inescapable at times. | 23:26 |
| kanzure | http://svn.red-bean.com/bob/simplejson/tags/simplejson-1.3/docs/index.html | 23:27 |
| kanzure | import simplejson; simplejson.loads(json_data); | 23:28 |
| kanzure | the section "Specializing JSON object decoding:" seems relevant maybe | 23:28 |
| JayDugger | Speaking of the devil, I need to go to work. Good night, all, and thanks again for the paper and the reference to Octopart. | 23:28 |
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| kanzure | was he talking about his wife or his job? | 23:28 |
| genehacker | JayDugger is in dallas | 23:32 |
| genehacker | hmmm... | 23:32 |
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| kanzure | hm | 23:48 |
| kanzure | http://pastebin.com/f12bc4f3c | 23:48 |
| kanzure | some of these parameters don't have units on them | 23:48 |
| kanzure | like weight | 23:48 |
| kanzure | these were some search results on "resistor" | 23:49 |
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