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| Aliks | anyone around? | 08:41 |
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| kanzure | no | 08:44 |
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| Aliks | back | 09:44 |
| Aliks | so you are here Kanzure? | 09:44 |
| kanzure | yes | 09:52 |
| kanzure | was just reading http://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/aprvq/do_any_telescopes_use_fractal_opticallight_capture/ | 09:52 |
| kanzure | looks like #wrongplanet had some issues: http://pastebin.com/d1ef774ae | 09:54 |
| kanzure | "the need for open source software in machine learning" http://www.kyb.tuebingen.mpg.de/publication.html?user=bs&select_year=2010&select_year=all | 09:54 |
| Utopiah | http://mloss.org/software/ | 09:57 |
| kanzure | yeah there's lots of open source software in machine learning | 09:58 |
| kanzure | has anyone seen PYTHONOCC_PDE2009_PAVIOT_FINAL.ppt ? | 10:00 |
| kanzure | "Spirit Branch Medicine, Fu Xi Wen, Open Source Medicine, and Emoteishin are trademarks of Ethan Borg, LLC. " wtf | 10:02 |
| Aliks | anyone here heard of Charlie Warren? | 10:05 |
| kanzure | has anyone seen "dark angel"? it's supposed to be a cyberpunk/biopunk tv series by james cameron | 10:05 |
| kanzure | Aliks: once or twice, yes | 10:06 |
| Aliks | kanzure, any thoughts on him? | 10:06 |
| kanzure | no, he hasn't shown up on my radar enough yet | 10:06 |
| Aliks | doesnt frequent this chat I assume? | 10:06 |
| kanzure | no | 10:06 |
| Aliks | hmm ok... yeah.. having a strange issue | 10:06 |
| Aliks | another organization is threatening to sue mine | 10:06 |
| kanzure | ? | 10:06 |
| Aliks | not really sure why | 10:06 |
| kanzure | why's that | 10:06 |
| Aliks | just got a nasty, street thug style email | 10:06 |
| kanzure | heh | 10:06 |
| Aliks | apparently they dont like our name | 10:07 |
| kanzure | i think he does "campaign for aging research" | 10:07 |
| Aliks | exactly | 10:07 |
| Aliks | open for less than 30 days and already getting threatened by people.... | 10:07 |
| Aliks | who are supposed to be our allies | 10:07 |
| Aliks | personally I'd say "campaign against aging" is fairly distinct from that | 10:08 |
| kanzure | distinct from what? | 10:08 |
| Aliks | CAR | 10:08 |
| Aliks | this is all off the record btw lol | 10:08 |
| kanzure | caregivers against raging? | 10:08 |
| Aliks | CAR is campaign for aging research | 10:08 |
| Aliks | thats their abbreviation | 10:08 |
| Aliks | shrug | 10:09 |
| kanzure | i wouldn't worry about it, but it is interesting that they may or may not have the money to sue | 10:10 |
| Aliks | how so | 10:10 |
| Aliks | I dont understand the last part | 10:10 |
| kanzure | well i guess their campaign must be going well? heh | 10:10 |
| Aliks | lol | 10:10 |
| Aliks | well, apparently they think it's going well enough to stamp out other organizations with a similar mission | 10:10 |
| Aliks | even though aside from online I've never heard of the guy | 10:10 |
| Aliks | or seen any effect of his work | 10:11 |
| Aliks | so, I'm very confused | 10:11 |
| kanzure | hey who's CAR? i mean who's behind it | 10:11 |
| kanzure | i know you're their webdev but still | 10:11 |
| Aliks | no | 10:11 |
| Aliks | Campaign for Aging Research is Charlie Warren et al | 10:11 |
| Aliks | Campaign Against Aging is my org | 10:11 |
| kanzure | er, who is CAA then | 10:12 |
| Aliks | cofounders, myself & florin | 10:12 |
| kanzure | just you? | 10:12 |
| kanzure | ok | 10:12 |
| Aliks | we now have a few other people | 10:12 |
| Aliks | but we are not going to mention anyone else now that there's a suit | 10:12 |
| Aliks | or possible suit | 10:12 |
| Aliks | some higher profile people want in | 10:12 |
| Aliks | but now they'll probably not want to be public | 10:12 |
| Aliks | sucks | 10:12 |
| Aliks | maybe thats the plan | 10:12 |
| Aliks | kill us while we're growing | 10:13 |
| kanzure | how do you rationalize "yet another organization for collecting donations"? | 10:13 |
| Aliks | we're mostly awareness raising, and I rationalize it by, "the other ones are not doing it effectively" | 10:13 |
| Aliks | its like asking, how do you justify another restaurant | 10:13 |
| Aliks | food's better, service is better, bathrooms are cleaner, location, menu, who knows... just different | 10:13 |
| Aliks | everybody's gotta eat, but you have more options than Taco Bell | 10:13 |
| kanzure | Aliks: you should tell charlie, "oh, no, you don't understand- this is the campaign against _the_ aging" (even though it's not) | 10:13 |
| Aliks | lol | 10:14 |
| kanzure | "it's a minor mistake, charlie" | 10:14 |
| Aliks | main reason we founded it is MF was moving too slow for our taste | 10:14 |
| Aliks | wanted to make an org that we could move faster | 10:14 |
| Aliks | since less bureaucracy | 10:14 |
| kanzure | there's another one out there | 10:14 |
| kanzure | have you talked with jata yet? | 10:14 |
| Aliks | no | 10:14 |
| kanzure | put that on your todo list | 10:14 |
| Aliks | either way, CAA exists now, no sense killing it | 10:14 |
| Aliks | but yeah I will | 10:14 |
| Aliks | CAA is getting good support | 10:14 |
| kanzure | http://parijata.com/ has something moving faster than methusalehahahaha | 10:15 |
| Aliks | and we already have an awareness raising campaign in the planning | 10:15 |
| Aliks | with hundreds of dollars invested | 10:15 |
| kanzure | meh | 10:15 |
| Aliks | of the founders' money | 10:15 |
| kanzure | well good luck. | 10:15 |
| Aliks | yeah | 10:15 |
| kanzure | where are you putting the money after the advertising? | 10:15 |
| Aliks | we have a few leads, but #1 priority right now is just to raise awareness of the ability to fight aging | 10:15 |
| Aliks | we dont have the resources to fund research yet | 10:15 |
| Aliks | we just started 30 days ago lol | 10:15 |
| Aliks | less even.. we need time | 10:16 |
| Aliks | still getting organized | 10:16 |
| kanzure | believe me, even $1k can do good reswearch (at least in the diy scene) | 10:16 |
| kanzure | *research | 10:16 |
| Aliks | yeah we plan on working with the DIYbio crowd | 10:16 |
| parolang | kanzure: I liked dark angel, never saw it before it was cancelled. Own both seasons on DVD, definitely a transhumanist element to it, but more dystopian/post-apocalyptic. Stars Jessica Abla. | 10:16 |
| Aliks | already soliciting some proposals | 10:16 |
| Aliks | anyway, will talk to your guy | 10:16 |
| Aliks | BTW if you know anybody with specific anti-aging research projects I'm interested | 10:18 |
| Aliks | just email me or have them email me about their plans | 10:18 |
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| kanzure | makerbot.com is bringing in $120k/mo wtf | 10:36 |
| kanzure | http://www.genomicon.com/2010/01/printing-advances/ | 10:36 |
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| ybit2 | i've a feeling my windows xp copy has spyware installed | 13:40 |
| ybit2 | just for the fact that safari and ie send me to crap sites instead of the sites you type in | 13:40 |
| ybit2 | hi kristianpaul | 13:41 |
| kristianpaul | ybit2: hola | 13:41 |
| ybit2 | that makes me happy | 13:42 |
| ybit2 | ..you saying 'hola' | 13:42 |
| kristianpaul | :) | 13:42 |
| ybit2 | i tend to geek out over little things, probably would have geeked out had you typed '01001000 01100101 01101100 01101100 01101111' as well :) | 13:43 |
| ybit2 | fenn: are you @ day 2 of the conf? | 13:45 |
| ybit2 | and also what computer are you using? i don't recall you leaving with a mobile computing device | 13:46 |
| ybit2 | kristianpaul: what part of CO are you from? | 13:46 |
| kristianpaul | ybit2: Valle | 13:47 |
| kristianpaul | why? | 13:47 |
| ybit2 | i met some interesting girls from CO at the h+ summit | 13:47 |
| ybit2 | i don't know why i asked, was just curious | 13:47 |
| * ybit2 shuts up with the noise | 13:49 | |
| kristianpaul | np | 13:56 |
| ybit2 | anyone here used solidworks or autocad? | 14:11 |
| kristianpaul | what? | 14:11 |
| ybit2 | i'll take that as a no from you | 14:11 |
| kristianpaul | i use heekscadm little of blender and some pyoccc (learning...) | 14:12 |
| kristianpaul | ybit2: heekscad looks like solidworks btw | 14:13 |
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| ybit2 | kristianpaul: i've been messing around with heekscad as well, but the new job requires knowledge of solidworks | 14:53 |
| ybit2 | hi jvalleroy | 14:53 |
| jvalleroy | hi there | 14:53 |
| jvalleroy | how's it going? | 14:56 |
| ybit2 | alright i suppose, having difficulty getting autocad and solidworks working atm | 15:05 |
| ybit2 | jvalleroy: how about yourself? | 15:05 |
| jvalleroy | not bad | 15:06 |
| jvalleroy | are those the "download" editions? | 15:07 |
| jvalleroy | if you know what I mean | 15:07 |
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| ybit2 | a key for sw2010? | 15:38 |
| ybit2 | hi elmom | 15:41 |
| ybit2 | jvalleroy: yeah, it's the 'download edition' | 15:41 |
| flamt | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/01/11/2140224/Neural-Nets-Make-Art-While-High | 16:42 |
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| strages | ybit, I'd idle alot and spend a lot of time at my local hackerspace | 17:13 |
| strages | also yes, I've mention ponoko to you | 17:14 |
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| kanzure | jerry's epilog laser cutter was pretty nice | 17:19 |
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| kanzure | http://cgi.ebay.com/New-40W-USB-CO2-Laser-Engraver-Cutter-8-2-x-8-CE_W0QQitemZ350305436148QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item518fd4c1f4 | 17:49 |
| kanzure | small cutting area though | 17:50 |
| kanzure | how many watts to cut polycarbonate or acrylic? | 17:57 |
| kanzure | seems like at least a 40W laser is required | 18:00 |
| kanzure | or for just $1k http://cgi.ebay.com/New-40W-Desktop-CO2-Laser-Engraver-Cutter-210x205mm-CE_W0QQitemZ130356526782QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1e59dabebe | 18:05 |
| kanzure | alex lightman wants me to write him a document about my "intellectual journey" | 18:06 |
| kanzure | and to assemble a list of all books i've read | 18:06 |
| kanzure | i don't know why | 18:06 |
| kanzure | anyway, i was really surprised when i didn't have any microfluidic circuits ready to cut out | 18:09 |
| kanzure | genehacker2: you have failed me :( | 18:09 |
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| bkero | randallagordon, MrClif: Here's yer nice storage box. http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/09/01/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-build-cheap-cloud-storage/ | 19:00 |
| genehacker2 | failed how? | 19:00 |
| genehacker2 | I only have fluidic circuit silhouettes for high re operation | 19:01 |
| genehacker2 | and they aren't in digital format | 19:02 |
| genehacker2 | but I've seen people in ETC working on what look like microfludic circuits, but I don't think they're willing to share | 19:03 |
| genehacker2 | laser cutters also don't produce nice clean cuts, though this isn't a problem at low RE | 19:04 |
| kanzure | looks like 0.1mm max positional resolution | 19:18 |
| genehacker2 | you need better for microfluidic... | 19:19 |
| genehacker2 | however for fluidics it's good enough | 19:19 |
| genehacker2 | what file format does the cutter take? | 19:20 |
| kanzure | a 100micron channel is fine for microfluidics i think | 19:25 |
| kanzure | any image format | 19:26 |
| genehacker2 | any image format? are you joking? | 19:29 |
| genehacker2 | if so then you could have already made some fluidic logic elements | 19:29 |
| genehacker2 | err... did I send you my scanned fluidics book with element silhouettes? | 19:30 |
| genehacker2 | they weren't perfect but they were good enough to cut | 19:31 |
| genehacker2 | how about .dxf, there aren't any lasercutters that won't accept that right? | 19:31 |
| kanzure | yes you did, but they looked more like diagrams- they had extra markings, etc. | 19:31 |
| kanzure | if a typical printer can print out .dxf, then so can the epilog laser cutter mini | 19:31 |
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| genehacker | I'll whip up a fluidic amplifier for you | 19:34 |
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| kanzure | the title of my tabs are so lame right now: "darktrunks", "nude nanodrop" (don't ask), "purple cows lamination" | 21:54 |
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| thesnark | hey jvalleroy | 23:23 |
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| jvalleroy | oh hey | 23:27 |
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