2010-01-26.log

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kanzurethese are still uploading (should be 88 .pdf files in total)00:10
kanzurehttp://designfiles.org/papers/longevity/00:10
bkeroybit: me00:12
ybitwould you be willing to make  backup.tar.gz of openfarmtech for me to grab? i know marcin doesn't want usernames anf passwords floating around00:15
ybitspeaking of the guy, he just logged onto skype00:15
ybitanyway, if that was what i was after, i would have already went for it when he gave me the username and passwords awhile back00:16
ybit..accidentally00:16
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ybiti'm not too familiar with wordpress, but with mediawiki, you can create an xml dump00:17
ybitfrom what i gather it's easy to export data in WP, but that may include the database of usernames and passwords00:18
mdkoch84you can do the same with WP...should be in the admin settings00:19
mdkoch84should allow you to easily import it into another WP blog, too00:19
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ybityeah, i don't care for that feature too much :)00:20
ybithi Redeemer 00:20
ybitRedeemer: i know you're on windows for gaming, but you should check this out: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/supergamer-8gb-linux-only-gameplay00:21
ybitburn you a copy of that distro and you might change your mind :)00:22
kanzuremdkoch84: btw i have various papers of sorts floating around here that might get your curiosity going: http://designfiles.org/papers/00:22
ybitor at the very least, install linux on a seperate partition00:22
ybityou have to start somewhere00:22
kanzurealmost done with the /papers/longevity/ upload00:22
mdkoch84kanzure: what do you use to organize your papers? tried zotero?00:23
kanzureyeah i've tried it, liked it00:23
kanzurei don't really like mendeley though00:23
kanzurehm i don't remember this one: Microfluidics-based extraction of viral RNA from infected mammalian cells for disposable molecular diagnostics00:23
kanzurehttp://designfiles.org/papers/Microfluidics-based%20extraction%20of%20viral%20RNA%20from%20infected%20mammalian%20cells%20for%20disposable%20molecular%20diagnostics.pdf00:23
mdkoch84yeah, i gave up on mendeley...we started a group on zotero called "Open Innovation in Engineering Design"...might be of interest to you and others00:24
kanzureokie dokie00:24
kanzureliink?00:24
mdkoch84http://www.zotero.org/groups/open_innovation_in_engineering_research00:24
kanzuremdkoch84: if you want to import my zotero bibliographies/collections, check out http://designfiles.org/papers/bibliographies/ and in particular the .tar.gz files00:26
kanzurelots of biology, not so much from engineering journals though00:26
kanzurebiologists write a lot :/00:27
mdkoch84yes, they do...and seem to do a better job then most engineers00:27
mdkoch84have you tried syncing with zotero?00:27
mdkoch84its quite useful...gives you the ability to access your files anwywhere with a firefox browser00:28
kanzureto be honest i only use zotero when i'm scraping data00:29
kanzureotherwise firefox crashes under my load of data00:29
kanzureheck it (firefox) crashes at 50 tabs :p00:29
mdkoch84yeah, zotero needs some work...its been great for working on papers throught the zotero groups though, but there is limited space00:31
kanzurei think it would be better if they do *not* use javascript for their scraper backend00:31
kanzurewhat they should do is have a more common format for writing scrapers00:31
mdkoch84dang, my firefox crashes all the time! i'd be surprised if it made it to 20 tabs00:31
kanzureso that it can be plugged into other programs00:31
kanzuremdkoch84: http://heybryan.org/projects/browsehack/tabtabtab.html the links at the top show my usual browser setup00:32
kanzurei.e. 00:32
kanzurehttp://heybryan.org/shots/2008-01-21_coincidences.png00:32
kanzurei've found that opera can handle about 400 tabs on 2GB of RAM00:33
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mdkoch84interesting...i'll have to check it out00:34
kanzuregasp! a piece of software that knows how to do garbage collection and multi-threading! oh noes00:35
kanzureyay longevity papers finally done uploading00:37
kanzurehttp://designfiles.org/papers/longevity/00:37
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ybitthe last i checked, i was having problems at around 23700:49
ybit+tabs00:49
ybitand fenn complains that google-chrome can't handle more than 6000:50
ybitobviously it matters what sites you are visiting too00:50
ybiti know firefox can handle more than 237 though00:51
ybit15:59 < ybit> down from 321 website tabs to 77 :)00:51
ybitmage2 has been working on tabs for uzbl00:52
ybitideally xmonad would handle the uzbl windows, but i'm not going to write the code00:54
ybiti would certainly like to use uzbl if it could handle more than 10 tabs, which it can, they just are hard to navigate :)00:54
ybiti'll tweet in my head to reduce the noise in here00:55
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ybithttp://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/01/skull-free-eeg/ :: "Removing Part of Skull Makes for Better Brain Scans"04:01
superkuh"Removing a slab of insulating dielectric helps us record voltage" ... not so astonishing.04:03
ybitbut it's fun04:08
ybitOn-Chip Single Plasmon Detection :: http://arxiv.org/abs/1001.272304:09
* ybit is doing his best to find something in the rss worth his spent reading through it all today04:13
ybitrss +feeds04:13
ybithis +time04:13
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kanzurehttp://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/01/ff_newrevolution/ open manufacturing on wired.com08:43
kanzurehttp://openfarmtech.org/index.php/Lathe_Build08:48
kanzurehttp://hydraraptor.blogspot.com/2008/11/lathe-accesories.html08:49
kanzuredur? http://www.replab.org/res/RepLab-clean.svg08:51
kanzureErik de Bruijn runs budgetdedicated.com ?08:53
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kanzureMitochondrial channelopathies in aging http://designfiles.org/papers/longevity/Mitochondrial%20channelopathies%20in%20aging.pdf09:00
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gearhackerhttp://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/01/ff_newrevolution/all/109:14
gearhackeropen manufacturing + shanzhai in wired09:15
gearhackerscroll down to alibaba for the good stuff09:15
kanzureybit: this is what i was talking about: 09:38
kanzurehttp://designfiles.org/~bryan/chinese-open-source09:38
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Redeemermmm, open source goodness09:43
JayDuggerEh?09:43
RedeemerFrom one of the links posted before you arrived.09:44
JayDuggerAh.09:45
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wrldpc2Which of these workshops should I go to?  Experience Definition through Storyboarding (Reading room/cafe, E14-514, E14-526) ambient Sites: making Tangible the Subtle, Ephemeral and Seemingly Silent (E14-433, balcony) measuring Biological Signals: Concepts and practice (E14-384) Fritzing: advancing electronic prototyping for non-engineers (E14-4th floor conference room) making Textile Sensors from Scratch (High Low Tech lab space - E14 10:11
wrldpc2floor) personalizing your pixels (E14-548) BodyHack Workshop (E14-525) Empowering programmability For Tangibles (E14-393) TEI 2010 Development Strategies for Tangible Interaction on Horizontal Surfaces (E14-445) make Cool Things With microcontrollers! (Wiesner Room, E15-209) Wiimote Hackery (Roth Room 2nd floor E15) Wireless Wearables (E14-240) Introduction to CNC Routing for prototyping and manufacturing (E15-135)10:11
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kanzurebodyhacking (E14-525); cnc (E15-135); biological signal measurement (E14-384); microcontrollers (unless you've done this before) (E15-209)10:13
JayDuggerWhat's the occasion, wrldpc210:14
wrldpc2http://www.tei-conf.org/10/10:15
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kanzurephd position in computational neuroscience just opened up at http://www.clm.utexas.edu/~fiete/11:12
kanzurehm the publication list looks kind of boring11:14
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kanzurefenn: shepazu: do either of you have suggestions for making my microfluidics artwork look better? http://designfiles.org/packages/microfluidics/11:25
kanzureideally it would look something like this:11:25
kanzurehttp://designfiles.org/papers/microfluidics/56.png11:25
kanzurehttp://designfiles.org/papers/microfluidics/504599.jpeg11:25
kanzurehttp://designfiles.org/papers/microfluidics/20020816_pid3486_aid3485_microfluidics_sourceimage.jpg11:26
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kanzurehttp://designfiles.org/papers/microfluidics/microfluidics.jpg11:26
kanzurehttp://designfiles.org/papers/microfluidics/microfluidics_polymer_chips.jpg11:27
kanzurehttp://designfiles.org/papers/microfluidics/nmeth0807-665-I3.jpg11:27
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shepazukanzure: your basic shapes seem fairly close to some of those diagrams... they just need to be connected up.  if you want it to look nice, you could use a nicer color or a gradient fill11:29
kanzurehttp://designfiles.org/papers/microfluidics_Sanger_sequencer.png11:30
kanzurehm11:30
kanzureokay. also maybe my scale is wrong11:30
shepazuoh, I see what you mean11:30
kanzureor proportions maybe11:30
* kanzure is no artist :)11:30
shepazuSVG is scalable, though... you can reuse the shapes at any scale11:30
shepazualso note that http://designfiles.org/papers/microfluidics/56.png visualizes different layers as different colors, which might be a nice metaphor11:31
kanzureagreed.11:32
kanzurehrm are those rounded corners in 56.png?11:32
kanzureno11:33
kanzuretheoretically my program should be able to make something that looks exactly like that, in that same style11:33
kanzureagain this is the output that i had: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/microfluidic-chip-test-1.svg11:34
kanzureah maybe it would help to add more channel length11:35
kanzurethat's likely the problem- everything looks too squished together11:35
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kanzureyay for mirrors and backups12:00
kanzurehttp://acceleratingfuture.com/hplusroadmapwiki/Polymerase12:00
kanzureQuantumG: you might be interested in that page12:00
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kanzure"By using three cycles of compartmentalized self-replication, we obtained variants of Taq DNA polymerase with 11-fold higher thermostability than the wild-type enzyme or with a >130-fold increased resistance to the potent inhibitor heparin"12:25
kanzurei'm sure the rate of thermostability enhancement drops off as you continue the cycles12:25
kanzurebut that's still fairly impressive for only three rounds12:26
kanzurealthough it could be that they just lucked out with the first round and were exploiting a local maxima12:26
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kanzurehttp://brainblogger.com/2010/01/26/the-smart-ones-are-living-longer/ silly correlational study, but fun13:57
kanzurehttp://openmanufacturing.org/ is down?14:10
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ybitkanzure: yeah, i saw that iq story14:48
ybithttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/26/science/26obgel.html?partner=rss&emc=rss :: hydrogels from clay and water, i thought that was interesting14:49
ybithttp://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/01/100120131201.htm :: "Human Brain Uses a Grid to Represent Space"15:03
kanzurehttp://science.slashdot.org/story/10/01/26/165254/Open-Source-Software-Meets-Do-It-Yourself-Biology15:10
kanzurehttp://hplusmagazine.com/articles/bio/diy-bio-growing-movement-takes-aging15:10
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kanzurehm15:48
kanzurewell. what the heck do i do with a million dollars.15:53
QuantumGwhere ya getting a million?16:02
kanzureinternets, sir16:02
kanzuredon't you usually have to know how to spend a million before you get one?16:03
QuantumGhmm.. well I guess you could come up with an interesting dev program for that budget.16:07
QuantumGit'd be something small16:07
kanzurei think i could kick ass just working off of the interest..16:07
QuantumGyeah, but that's a hard sale to make.16:07
QuantumGfunding agencies wanna know how you're going to spend their money, not how you're going to invest it ;)16:09
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kanzurebodyhack: http://tywkiwdbi.blogspot.com/2010/01/lip-window.html18:23
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kanzureprobably looks gross when she eats18:25
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QuantumGspeaking of gross eatings18:45
QuantumGI'm eating some rice/gravy/curry/onion concoction.18:46
QuantumGit's tasty.. just try not to look at it18:46
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ybiter, madam, you have some brocolli stuck in your bottom row of teeth18:49
ybitit wouldn't be a problem, but i can see it because you make it visible with your see-through thingy on your chin18:50
ybitthe factor-e-farm's torch table in make magazine: http://www.make-digital.com/make/vol21/?pg=6918:52
ybitwho's he author of that article? it's hard to make it out18:58
ybits/he/the18:58
ybithttp://sandboxgamemaker.com/component/content/article/5-latest-news/20-platinum-arts-sandbox-free-3d-game-maker-25-release-150-steam-game-contest-reminder.html18:59
ybitwaste of time, the google toilet: http://www.taranfx.com/google-toilet19:08
ybitdidn't we already grab "Microfluidic assembly blocks"? http://www.rsc.org/Publishing/Journals/LC/article.asp?DOI=b805137b19:09
kanzureyes19:11
kanzuremaybe i'm just noticing it more frequently, but in the last 2 months i've noticed the rate of "word dropping" go way way up over all sorts of input streams that i get19:25
kanzureit seems people are randomly dropping words from their sentences19:25
kanzuresomeone's stealing all of the words :(19:26
kanzurehello fenn19:28
fennwatching my idle huh20:06
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fennstatistically speaking, the last wednesday of the month is the least used for meetings etc, so of course all the nerdy meetup groups are meeting tomorrow20:07
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kanzurefenn: nah, but i got an email from you20:13
fenner, really?20:16
fennoh yeah, austin hackerspace20:16
fennor whatever its called20:16
kanzureyes20:17
kanzurefenn: i need to figure out what to do with $100k to $500k of funding20:19
fennfix my wisdom teeth and/or whatever else is causing me to suck20:19
fennis that a "living expense"?20:20
kanzurethis is a different source of funding20:20
fenno rly20:20
kanzure:)20:20
fennhow did you manage that?20:20
kanzurei'm not quite sure20:21
kanzureit's not set in stone yet20:21
kanzurei need to come up with a sufficiently awesome list of projects and comprehensive overview or somesuch20:21
fennuh i "have" to go to the reprap meetup in ten minutes or so20:21
kanzureokay20:21
kanzureanyway, just so the idea's in the back of your brains20:22
fenntoday i rode all the way across the city to the beach and back20:22
* fenn pats self on back20:22
fennit would have been much easier with some kind of HUD display for GPS maps20:22
kanzureprogress!20:22
fennriding in sf in the rain is really confusing, especially if you have no idea where anything is20:23
fenni would buy everything they sell at sparkfun20:28
fennperhaps that's not a very good funding proposal, but it would probably lead to better results than a focused approach20:29
fennand carolina and new england biotech20:30
fennzoinks > 100 people rsvp'ed to quantified self meetup20:34
* fenn slogs off to techshop20:34
ybitbeautiful art: http://www.coloradocollege.edu/IDProg/Neuroscience/Cellular%20slides/inhibitory%20cortex.jpg20:36
ybithttp://images.wellcome.ac.uk/indexplus/obf_images/26/9f/65fc2d97ea8d9b87a285a2efc12d.jpg20:36
ybithttp://www.med.unc.edu/neurosci/labs/anton/Images/greenblue.jpg20:37
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ybithttp://www.scitopics.com/How_to_Plot_in_The_Multidimensional_Cartesian_Coordinate_System.html#20:51
kanzurejust looks like typical images to me21:02
kanzurehttp://www.coloradocollege.edu/idprog/Neuroscience/Cellular%20slides/23.myelin.JPG21:02
kanzuremyelination of an axon.. standard textbook stuff21:03
kanzurealthough that first one was nice. looks like something i once saw from the blue brain project21:03
kanzureaha21:03
kanzurehttp://designfiles.org/papers/bluebrain.png21:03
kanzureholy shit that's it exactly21:03
kanzure"Achieving autonomy - Edelman's simulated brain rhythms"21:03
kanzureok, so it's j. edelman21:03
kanzurenot quite the same guy as markram :)21:04
kanzureso yeah, that designfiles.org link is the same as 21:05
kanzurehttp://www.coloradocollege.edu/IDProg/Neuroscience/Cellular%20slides/inhibitory%20cortex.jpg21:05
kanzureexcept coloradocollege.edu somehow has a higher res version? 21:05
ybitaha, the images i originall was searching for: http://spectrum.ieee.org/biomedical/imaging/the-consciousness-conundrum/021:11
ybitoriginally*21:11
ybitvisualbiotech...21:11
ybithttp://www.visualbiotech.ch/animations.html :: zoom out sequence from within the neocortical brain21:12
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ybithrm, i figured the high-res images would be in http://www.visualbiotech.ch/downloads/visualbiotech_biostech08.pdf but they aren't21:13
ybita prettier animation is on their frontpage21:13
ybitfront page* yargh21:15
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kanzurehello JayDugger 21:25
JayDuggerHello, kanzure. 21:31
JayDuggerIf I get a vote, have all needed dental work.21:31
JayDuggerEliminate all low-grade chronic stress.21:32
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kanzureit's not so much a vote as it is a benevolent dictatorship21:34
JayDuggerThe Enlightened Despot model?21:34
kanzureyes, and ybit's in charge of my personality cult21:36
kanzureheh from wikipedia: "In the modern era, the term benevolent dictator has also been applied to leaders of an open source software project that have final control over the direction and content of software developed by a larger group of programmers. Because open source software may be forked, non-benevolent dictatorships do not generally occur."21:36
kanzurei'd like to see a non-benevolent dictatorship on an open source project.. wonder how that'd (not) work21:37
kanzure*malevolent21:37
JayDuggerCommercial software with employees unable to leave?21:37
JayDuggerPerhaps someone has researched the history of software or computer science in the Soviet Union.21:37
ybitbranstrom, bkero: are either of you familiar with unstructured p2p systems? i figured if anyone here was, it'd be one of you21:37
ybiti can't find much on GIA, FLOOD, RWRT, or SUPER21:38
ybithttp://www.oversim.org/21:44
ybit"OverSim is an open-source overlay and peer-to-peer network simulation framework for the OMNeT++/OMNEST simulation environment. The simulator contains several models for structured (e.g. Chord, Kademlia, Pastry) and unstructured (e.g. GIA) P2P systems and overlay protocols. "21:44
kanzurezitterbart heh21:44
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ybitYahoo plans on a implementing a fee structure for BOSS21:57
ybit-a21:57
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gearhackerpah dictatorships, let's set up a P2P government22:26
JayDuggerWhat do you have in mind, genehacker?22:26
gearhackernothing really22:26
JayDuggerHeh. :) Sounded good.22:27
ybiti've got something in mind22:27
ybitit's why i'm looking up this stuff22:28
JayDuggerI22:28
JayDuggerI'll listen.22:28
ybiti'll keep it in my head for the time being22:29
ybitbut i will share 22:29
JayDuggerFair enough.22:29
ybitsome ideas are hurt by initially sharing them, i've found out22:29
ybitbest to show your work and then talk about it22:29
JayDuggerYes. The American Constitutional Convention did that.22:30
JayDuggerTime for my commute. Good night, all.22:30
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ybitdoes anyone besides kristianpaul and myself speak english in #qi-hardware22:34
ybitjust wondering since nobody says anything22:34
kanzurethere's a few people on the qi-hardware mailing list that speak english22:35
kanzureactually everyone on that mailing list posts in english22:36
ybitfigures22:39
ybitdoes anyone here actually use surfraw?22:46
ybitif i find myself on a blank console and wanting to find something on the interwebs, maybe..22:47
ybitfor google search results, it doesn't save much time, it becomes useful if i want to cut a few seconds off a search from other site though22:49
ybitor some specialized google search like google groups22:49
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ybithttp://www.molecularmovies.com/ :: from h+ summit22:59
ybitbkero: have you thought about making a backup of openfarmtech.org that i could fetch?23:00
ybitalso, bkero, openmanufacturing.org has been down today 23:01
ybityou seem to be busy recently23:01
bkeroybit: hm ok23:06
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ybitbkero: are you agreeing that you are busy? :P23:11
ybitor are you fixing om.org23:11
bkeroybit: honestly?23:11
bkeroI'm on the can atm.23:11
ybithaha23:11
kanzureplease do not be honest in the future :p23:12
ybitwell, when you get time, and don't rush/force it, would you mind addressing the questions above23:12
bkerook23:12
bkerovery spicy thai foodz for lunch23:13
ybitwhere are the fancy animations shown at h+ summit?23:20
ybitaha http://www.molecularmovies.com/showcase/index.html23:21
ybitit seems like just yesterday these were new, i remember watching them a couple years ago23:43

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