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| kanzure | does anyone have a copy of buechley_LilyPad_adopt.pdf ? | 00:16 |
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| * QuantumG just inhaled a coffee | 00:40 | |
| flamt | due | 00:48 |
| flamt | dude | 00:48 |
| flamt | i forgot about my coffee | 00:48 |
| flamt | you're my caffeine hero | 00:48 |
| QuantumG | see the latest focus fusion post? | 00:49 |
| QuantumG | Preliminary Evidence of Angular Momentum Effect | 00:49 |
| QuantumG | graphs and shit | 00:49 |
| flamt | no! is that plasmoid related | 00:51 |
| flamt | im most skeptical about xray to voltage conversion still but hopeful | 00:51 |
| flamt | hopeful. some big lab is also doing DPF but all that could be cover for classified or black fusion projects you hear rumblings of | 00:51 |
| flamt | the big ones | 00:51 |
| flamt | you know | 00:51 |
| flamt | even eric lerner himself could be | 00:51 |
| flamt | just to draw eyes away. i don't know | 00:52 |
| flamt | but i hope he gets over unity | 00:52 |
| flamt | i think he will | 00:52 |
| flamt | i think he will. | 00:52 |
| fenn | go away | 00:52 |
| QuantumG | yep, they've got data to back up their hunch that putting angular momentum into the field increases the plasmoid heat. | 00:52 |
| flamt | fenn go fuck yourself | 00:52 |
| kanzure | fenn: welcome back? | 00:54 |
| fenn | hi | 00:54 |
| flamt | http://boards.4chan.org/x/res/3648294 almost whole thing is up | 00:54 |
| flamt | implant story for those who care | 00:54 |
| flamt | see grant morrison's story about businessmen driving possess crackheads from the boardroom with vr headset | 00:55 |
| flamt | charles stross's child porn themed story 'generation gap' | 00:55 |
| flamt | and that new comic in hplus one time about rich guys' kids using their android doubles for mischief | 00:55 |
| flamt | all about this very real topic | 00:55 |
| flamt | :) | 00:55 |
| flamt | goodbye ,_, | 00:55 |
| fenn | baypiggies was nice, some things i learned about: clonedigger, searches for copypasta in your codebase. cyclomatic complexity analyzes the number of unique paths possible. and python-restkit which probably sucks | 00:56 |
| kanzure | yeah restkit was mentioned on the baypiggies web page | 00:56 |
| flamt | autospam | 00:56 |
| kanzure | zach, bre and adam have put in a crapload of work into makerbot.com it looks like | 00:57 |
| kanzure | they are either doing it wrong or it's really that hard to sell makerbots | 00:57 |
| kanzure | or they are just playing it up | 00:57 |
| kanzure | not really sure what's going on. | 00:57 |
| kanzure | 1k kits sold, $750/kit, they're on batch 14 (not sure how many per batch) | 00:58 |
| kanzure | that's not really stellar performance | 00:59 |
| kanzure | is it? | 00:59 |
| fenn | no, not really | 00:59 |
| fenn | huh. a transcript of the newbie nugget from baypiggies: http://simeonfranklin.com/blog/2010/feb/25/python-code-quality/ | 01:04 |
| kanzure | "the first reason is that i suck. the second reason is that you suck." | 01:05 |
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| kanzure | what's this about code complexity? huh? | 01:07 |
| kanzure | fenn: what do you think about datapkg's method of just having fake packages all over the place? | 01:13 |
| fenn | i haven't looked at datapkg | 01:14 |
| fenn | what's a "fake package"? | 01:14 |
| kanzure | basically you try to datapkg install <name of a package here> and it can't do it because the package is just in name only and isn't actually useful | 01:14 |
| kanzure | i dub those "fake packages" because they might as well not exist | 01:15 |
| * Utopiah thinks wget works well but that it's still an interesting effort | 01:15 | |
| kanzure | but rufus insits | 01:15 |
| kanzure | *insists | 01:15 |
| flamt | http://arbornet.org/~flamoot/telepathic-critterdrug.html | 01:17 |
| Utopiah | they add a single point of reference, licenses, date of update, format of data, ... maybe it will become really useful with APIs in different languages to use their functions directly within your code (maybe OpenDBX , ODBC, ... in the futur) | 01:18 |
| Utopiah | flamt: if you want to advertises your links out of context, you might want use a trigger script... | 01:20 |
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| genehacker | flamoot what's this critterdrug thing | 01:25 |
| kanzure | fuck | 01:25 |
| kanzure | NO | 01:25 |
| kanzure | fenn: QuantumG: i get the feeling that freenode doesn't actually have any admins or sysops | 01:26 |
| genehacker | oh shit | 01:26 |
| QuantumG | kanzure: search for a FAQ somewhere I guess | 01:27 |
| kanzure | the FAQ says to register the channel, and i did that 2 years ago | 01:27 |
| QuantumG | surely there's commands that you send to some bot | 01:27 |
| kanzure | you must be a channel operator in order to register a channel | 01:28 |
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| katsmeow-afk | ouch | 01:48 |
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| katsmeow-afk | so did anyone goto #freenode about the channel? | 02:31 |
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| Utopiah | (BioMoby ยป What is MOBY? http://biomoby.open-bio.org/index.php/what-is-moby/ interoperability between biological data hosts and analytical services) | 05:09 |
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| fenn | O_o "Hash trees were invented in 1979 by Ralph Merkle" | 05:31 |
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| fenn | painfully reading http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2008/03/get-that-job-at-google.html (skip down to "tech prep tips") | 05:37 |
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| fenn | blog.okcupid.com is fascinating... actual data on human behavior! | 06:41 |
| fenn | the js graphs are cool too | 06:42 |
| katsmeow-afk | it's all heterosexual tho, so it's skewed somewhat, somehow | 06:46 |
| fenn | they usually provide same-sex graphs separately, if it's relevant | 06:48 |
| fenn | "Either something very sad happens to a woman at 40, or something incredibly awesome happens at 39. Hard to tell." | 06:53 |
| katsmeow-afk | i didn't notice anything | 06:54 |
| fenn | do you have an okcupid profile? :P | 06:55 |
| katsmeow-afk | no | 06:55 |
| fenn | the graph for that one is pretty amazing | 06:55 |
| fenn | goes from 85% "the best days of my life are ahead of me" at 39 to 49% at 40 | 06:56 |
| katsmeow-afk | mine hit zero ~30 | 06:56 |
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| fenn | more fascinating data from okcupid: "Generally speaking, the colder it is, the more likely you are to hate yourself. " | 07:44 |
| katsmeow-afk | that's generic depression from being restricted by weatehr | 07:46 |
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| JayDugger | Good morning, everyone. | 08:37 |
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| kanzure | http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/12/the-empire-bias.html | 09:53 |
| kanzure | (steve's attempt at explaining suresh) | 09:53 |
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| JayDugger | Ah, kanzure, did you post the link you intended? | 10:07 |
| JayDugger | That's from Robin Hanson, not "steve." | 10:07 |
| kanzure | right | 10:20 |
| kanzure | http://www.thingiverse.com/rss/tag:makerbot zach implemented a new feature this morning. woopdiedo | 10:21 |
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| kanzure | i guess i should get over myself and starting making "virtual" skdb packages that have no content / bullshit content (like .stl files) | 10:23 |
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| kanzure | "Yes, I'm bitter. I'm surrounded by pointy-clicky types who insist on procedural thinking when writing queries. Set theory? What's that?" didn't know that happened | 10:30 |
| kanzure | that was re: http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1563946&cid=31284964 | 10:30 |
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| kanzure | someone just dropped a link reminding me of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaced_repetition | 10:40 |
| kanzure | hm the majority of the links from the last 48 hours that i've come across have been *given* to me | 10:41 |
| kanzure | this is not normal | 10:41 |
| JayDugger | Do you look gift horses in the mouth? | 10:45 |
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| JayDugger | And the fellow complaining of procedural thinking in queries should work where I do. | 10:47 |
| JayDugger | I've a manager who doesn't know the difference between a model and a database and a texture, and only one co-worker who doesn't need "falsifiable hypothesis" explained to him. | 10:48 |
| JayDugger | Complaints come cheap. | 10:48 |
| kanzure | why are people just now learning about http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/03/open-source-har/ ? in the past 3 days i've got more links to this than i would care for.. | 10:50 |
| JayDugger | Think of those incoming links as time trials for meme propagation speed through your social network. | 10:51 |
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| Noahj | It's important to look gift horses in the mouth in case they're carnivorous | 11:44 |
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| kanzure | http://www.onnetworks.com/videos/backpack-picnic/farmer-dinner?autoplay=true | 13:30 |
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| kanzure | wtf? http://www.cbc.ca/olympics/blogs/postblog/2010/02/emergency-shipment-of-condoms-headed-to-olympic-athletes.html | 14:43 |
| katsmeow-afk | teenagers | 14:45 |
| katsmeow-afk | i liked the comments better | 14:47 |
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| kanzure | can anyone give me a reason to be interested in "the internet of things" other than a sense of FOAF? | 17:37 |
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| thesnark | hey kanzure | 17:46 |
| thesnark | that was a nice writeup you had on your facebook | 17:46 |
| kanzure | thanks :) | 17:46 |
| kanzure | are we still doing the eeg project eventually? | 17:46 |
| thesnark | hah, I hope to, yes :) I'm incredibly busy with 2 jobs and school atm =p | 17:47 |
| thesnark | kanzure if things go the right way I will be down there working for somebody this summer | 17:47 |
| thesnark | so we'll be in a close physical proximity | 17:47 |
| thesnark | it will be great to be able to actually discuss and do things in person | 17:48 |
| kanzure | is AIM or OSCAR down? | 17:48 |
| kanzure | hrm | 17:48 |
| * thesnark is unsure | 17:48 | |
| * thesnark tries | 17:48 | |
| thesnark | works for me | 17:49 |
| kanzure | hm it works for one of my usernames but not the other | 17:50 |
| * thesnark gasps | 17:50 | |
| thesnark | they're on to you! | 17:50 |
| kanzure | aha, there it goes | 17:54 |
| kanzure | well that took forever | 17:54 |
| kanzure | anyway, yeah, it'd be good to meet up | 17:54 |
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| kanzure | fenn: aren't you into that? don't you have a rant you can give me about why i should be gaga about "the internet of things"? | 18:28 |
| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_of_Things | 18:31 |
| kanzure | how is this not the same thing as stuff like "the global brain" | 18:32 |
| kanzure | holy crap, google did something useful with its social search.. it brought up ybit's link to http://singularityu.org/news/2009/07/david-orban/ | 18:34 |
| kanzure | http://www.zylstra.org/things/2008/11/internet_of_things_and_social.html | 18:35 |
| kanzure | sorry this just doesn't interest me.. am i missing something | 18:36 |
| katsmeow-afk | yea: the reason you are reading things that don't interest you | 18:38 |
| katsmeow-afk | "If all objects of daily life, from yogurt to an airplane, are equipped with radio tags, they can be identified and .... " and i hope the used yogurt is not tracked as intact yogurt | 18:40 |
| kanzure | hm bricophone? | 18:42 |
| kanzure | "I was at CES in Vegas a few weeks back. They were showing microwaves with Android, refrigerators with Android, weight scale with Android. All devices interconnected, talking one to another. All syncing data among themselves" | 18:49 |
| kanzure | ew why would you want your fridge running android | 18:49 |
| kanzure | er, that was from http://www.funambol.com/blog/capo/2010/01/chumby-and-internet-of-things.html | 18:49 |
| * kanzure still doesn't get it | 18:49 | |
| kanzure | i'd like my fridge to be on the network, sure, but android?? | 18:49 |
| kanzure | http://dorkbot.org/dorkbotaustin/2010/02/austin-hacker-space-opening-soon/ | 18:58 |
| kanzure | opening soon? it's already open. | 18:58 |
| kanzure | .. | 18:58 |
| kanzure | dna breakout: http://www.natasha.cc/image1.htm | 19:06 |
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| kanzure | hi michael__ | 19:10 |
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| michael__ | hey, hm I don't know why my name changed | 19:11 |
| michael__ | odd | 19:11 |
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| timschmidt | howdy everyone | 20:01 |
| * timschmidt is 25 parts into printing a 90 part set of RepRap parts. | 20:02 | |
| QuantumG | cool | 20:02 |
| QuantumG | hey tim, what did you think of my link set the other day for metal printing? | 20:03 |
| timschmidt | didn't see it... | 20:03 |
| timschmidt | got it handy? | 20:04 |
| QuantumG | http://groups.google.com/group/openmanufacturing/browse_thread/thread/47f7d74778d836b2 | 20:04 |
| QuantumG | Bryan Bishop = kanzure | 20:04 |
| QuantumG | Trent Waddington = quantumg | 20:04 |
| timschmidt | I've seen the tech before... it's interesting, but (though I'm sure the knowledge is out there) I haven't seen any easily approachable lasers or high-wattage electron beams or such for hobbiests. | 20:08 |
| timschmidt | making it technically possible for one guy to create something usable from scratch, but hard to get any traction in a collaborative setting | 20:08 |
| QuantumG | don't confuse NASA's overengineering with the concept | 20:11 |
| QuantumG | they're using fill wire to make stuff | 20:11 |
| QuantumG | electron beam welding is just the highest technology way to do it | 20:11 |
| timschmidt | I, for instance, would love to experiment with such a machine, hack on the software for it, etc. But without an existing PCB design for the business end, and easily source-able parts, I'm SOL. | 20:11 |
| QuantumG | what if you used simple arc welding instead and a helium filled work chamber instead of vacuum. | 20:12 |
| QuantumG | the RepRap2 is a "movable platform, fixed head" right? | 20:12 |
| kanzure | mendel? | 20:12 |
| QuantumG | so, put it in a box and flood the box with helium. | 20:13 |
| timschmidt | It certainly sounds simpler... but the same issues still apply. Someone's going to have to educate us non-welders about what to buy, where, and how not to kill ourselves doing so. | 20:13 |
| timschmidt | Mendel (RepRap v2) has a head that moves in Z and Y and a bed that moves in X. | 20:13 |
| QuantumG | replace the head with a mig welder and connect the return lead to the platform | 20:13 |
| * QuantumG is a (poor) welder | 20:14 | |
| QuantumG | I've done a 3 week course on mig and know how it works | 20:14 |
| timschmidt | I'm working with several others on a gridbeam RepRap skunkworks project to support development of powder printing as well as more robust milling in which the head moves in X, and the bed moves in Z and Y. | 20:14 |
| timschmidt | AFAIK, there are no current repstrap designs in which the bed moves in X, Y, and Z. | 20:16 |
| timschmidt | which is not to say it couldn't be done | 20:16 |
| QuantumG | well, I was imagining the bed moving in XY | 20:16 |
| QuantumG | and the head moving in Z | 20:16 |
| timschmidt | The mcwire functions like that | 20:16 |
| QuantumG | but whatever design works, you're the reprap guy :) | 20:17 |
| QuantumG | point I'm trying to make is, a MIG welder is just a wire extruder | 20:17 |
| timschmidt | very true | 20:17 |
| QuantumG | with voltage running from the wire to the work | 20:18 |
| QuantumG | you could conceivably do it with an unmodified MIG.. only putting the shield gas where the wire is arcing | 20:18 |
| QuantumG | but if you're making a robot it's a lot easier to just put the robot in a box and fill the box with shield gas | 20:18 |
| katsmeow-afk | i would think you'd then accumulate a *lot* of crud in the air in the box | 20:20 |
| katsmeow-afk | it would deposit out and interfere with the welding | 20:20 |
| timschmidt | one thought... welding produces all sorts of fun metal compounds - often as gasses or airborne powders. Plus the shield gas. This would have to be done in a well ventilated area... preferably in a garage or shop setting. | 20:20 |
| katsmeow-afk | yeas, i think the enclosed box won't do | 20:20 |
| katsmeow-afk | plus the heat | 20:20 |
| katsmeow-afk | you'd be dumping 100's of watts, if not kilowatts into the box | 20:21 |
| timschmidt | sure | 20:21 |
| QuantumG | yep, all of those fumes come from either: the workpiece, or the inability of the shield gas to block 100% of the surrounding air from getting into the arc | 20:21 |
| katsmeow-afk | Quantum, plus vaporised metals | 20:22 |
| QuantumG | the wire doesn't vaporize | 20:22 |
| * katsmeow-afk has a different opinion | 20:22 | |
| timschmidt | Another thought... you'd have to invest in a quality 100% duty cycle welder. Lincoln or the like. Harbor Freight welders seem to be 20% duty cycle or similar. | 20:22 |
| QuantumG | when was the last time you welded anything katsmeow? | 20:22 |
| katsmeow-afk | the otehr day, i have a growlbox and a wirefeed | 20:22 |
| katsmeow-afk | :-P | 20:23 |
| katsmeow-afk | you have obviously not seen my boat webpages | 20:23 |
| timschmidt | I'm not attempting to shoot holes in the idea... just thinking through the details. | 20:23 |
| QuantumG | ya, I think "try it" is the best way to think through the details.. but maybe others disagree. | 20:24 |
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| katsmeow-afk | tim, best to sort it out in your head, it's cheaper than sorting out the hardware | 20:24 |
| QuantumG | people do this stuff manually | 20:24 |
| timschmidt | "try it" before thinking about whether or not to have good ventilation gets you dead. | 20:24 |
| katsmeow-afk | yeas, building up an object by laying beads down is common, just not in a sealed box | 20:25 |
| QuantumG | who said anything about a sealed box? | 20:25 |
| katsmeow-afk | [20:19] <QuantumG> but if you're making a robot it's a lot easier to just put the robot in a box and fill the box with shield gas | 20:25 |
| QuantumG | yep, did I say sealed? | 20:25 |
| QuantumG | what I said was "box" and "helium tent" .. | 20:26 |
| timschmidt | it's implied if you want to keep your shield gas around | 20:26 |
| katsmeow-afk | [20:12] <QuantumG> what if you used simple arc welding instead and a helium filled work chamber instead of vacuum. | 20:26 |
| katsmeow-afk | chamber and "able to contain vaccumn" implies sealed | 20:26 |
| QuantumG | it's not like I invented helium tent welding | 20:26 |
| QuantumG | sigh.. shall I explain helium tent welding? | 20:27 |
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| kanzure | QuantumG: there's not many search results on google for it, so yes | 20:27 |
| katsmeow-afk | heck, in an open space in winter with forced air vent, i've had 4ft dia steel that was too hot to touch for an hour, i don't think you want that much heat in a box | 20:27 |
| * QuantumG stops talking now | 20:28 | |
| kanzure | QuantumG: please explain tent welding | 20:28 |
| QuantumG | I dunno why this channel has to be so confrontational all the time | 20:28 |
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| kanzure | fuck you too | 20:28 |
| katsmeow-afk | me too, i am obviously all wrong, there's no reason the shielded arc gun was ever invented | 20:28 |
| timschmidt | there's nothing confrontational about figuring out the particulars of an idea... | 20:29 |
| katsmeow-afk | i suspect overall, keeping the environment the way you want in the box/tent/whatever will cost you more in many terms than using a regular helium flow wirefeed gun in the open | 20:30 |
| timschmidt | ok | 20:30 |
| timschmidt | RepRap already has the ability to do cooldown pauses between layers... I see no reason something similar couldn't be done for this | 20:31 |
| * katsmeow-afk nods | 20:31 | |
| katsmeow-afk | skip welding will tend to get the temperature down for the same heat input too | 20:32 |
| timschmidt | And it's not as if laser sintering is energy efficient... additive construction of metal objects is obviously worth the power budget for many things. | 20:33 |
| katsmeow-afk | keeps my boat ribs from warping, and allows me to keep welding, pausing only to powerbrush slag off | 20:33 |
| timschmidt | color me curious... I'd like to build a bigger machine (than a mendel) from metal bits before testing it though. | 20:34 |
| timschmidt | I assume the welder has some sort of trigger? A circuit we can just hack a fet or something into in order to get extrusion control... Are there different speeds? | 20:35 |
| katsmeow-afk | yeas, and yeas | 20:35 |
| timschmidt | speed control is a pot generally? | 20:35 |
| katsmeow-afk | yeas | 20:35 |
| timschmidt | hmmm | 20:36 |
| katsmeow-afk | it's just a low voltage feedback to the 12v feed motor's pwm controller | 20:36 |
| timschmidt | even better | 20:36 |
| katsmeow-afk | and fwiw, those feed motors look susiciously like some windshield wiper motors | 20:37 |
| timschmidt | Sounds very reprap-compatible. | 20:37 |
| katsmeow-afk | the guns with the 2lbs spools on them have smaller motors, of course | 20:37 |
| timschmidt | I bet you could hack one onto a set of stock reprap electronics without so much as an added circuit, and even use the stock software stack to produce usable output. Maybe not _great_ output, but something recognizable. | 20:38 |
| katsmeow-afk | yeas, you can buy the entire gun assy for a current source for cheap, if you build the wire feed and gas handler, and you already have the current sourse | 20:39 |
| timschmidt | current is rough. pretty much every RepRap uses a stock PC power supply because they're cheap, and powerful enough. But that won't work for a welder. | 20:39 |
| katsmeow-afk | i think the gun is $200 at HF , ordered as a repair/replacement part assy for their wirefeed welders | 20:39 |
| katsmeow-afk | order it from Miller and it's $900 | 20:40 |
| timschmidt | and am I right in assuming that the duty cycle of the welder is essentially determined by it's power supply? | 20:40 |
| katsmeow-afk | yeas | 20:40 |
| katsmeow-afk | the new switcehrs will run all day at full output, no problem | 20:41 |
| katsmeow-afk | the older hunky 240v 60hz transformers need cooldown time | 20:41 |
| timschmidt | should be do-able then. Where does one acquire such a power supply, and importantly, helium? | 20:41 |
| timschmidt | or argon or whatever | 20:42 |
| katsmeow-afk | i buy from Airgas South, but thelocak yellow pages fromt he telco can be a friend | 20:42 |
| fenn | nuclear fusion reactor | 20:42 |
| katsmeow-afk | Airgas S can get me whatever gas or mix i want, in many sizes, leased tanks or purchased | 20:42 |
| timschmidt | fenn: a nuclear powered fabber of any sort would be quite nice to have... post-apocalyptic fabbing, here we come! | 20:43 |
| katsmeow-afk | i don't use the wirefeed so much lately, but i keep an account open for oxygen tanks | 20:43 |
| timschmidt | and the power supplies? | 20:44 |
| katsmeow-afk | generally, you buy them, you can make them, you can even use a slightly modded growlbox as a source | 20:44 |
| katsmeow-afk | different people have different preferences, some build everything, yo can find lots of stuff with google | 20:45 |
| timschmidt | fair enough | 20:45 |
| timschmidt | what would you expect to pay for a decent one? | 20:45 |
| katsmeow-afk | you will need lots of voltage compliance to keep the current in your ballpark as you move the wire moves, the plasma moves, etc | 20:45 |
| katsmeow-afk | hmm, i haven't priced them in 25 yrs, i dunno | 20:46 |
| katsmeow-afk | a wire feed all set up with fancy options and ready to plug in and use, very power efficient, 1 yr guarantee, etc etc, prolly $2000 | 20:47 |
| timschmidt | not too terrible | 20:48 |
| timschmidt | building the pinchwheel wire feed mechanism should be hard. Lots of experience with that sort of system within the RepRap community. | 20:48 |
| timschmidt | shouldn't | 20:48 |
| katsmeow-afk | ask at your local friendly arc welder repair/sales place, see if they have something used in 20yr old technology they can throw you,,, but agian, the newer the better | 20:48 |
| katsmeow-afk | the pinch system needs to accommodate a range of wire guages,, if you use a range of wire guages | 20:49 |
| timschmidt | right... not too much of an issue | 20:50 |
| timschmidt | plus, with this sort of system, I think you could get away with a single wire gauge. | 20:50 |
| katsmeow-afk | you definitely want high voltage arc start circuit, and arc stabilisation circuit | 20:50 |
| * katsmeow-afk nods, i use only one guage | 20:51 | |
| timschmidt | It's pretty much single purpose. Not exactly asking it to weld any two random pieces of metal together. | 20:51 |
| timschmidt | OK, I'm going to be AFK for a while. Off to help another reprapper | 20:52 |
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| kanzure | durr? jerry just sent an email to om because he's discovered a new programming language called QT | 22:00 |
| katsmeow-afk | QT is new? | 22:01 |
| kanzure | not at all.. | 22:03 |
| kanzure | :( | 22:03 |
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| kanzure | i wonder what's next? | 22:10 |
| kanzure | "jerry discovers `ls`" | 22:10 |
| kanzure | or "jerry discovers ncurses" | 22:10 |
| kanzure | well at least he didn't reinvent the wheel. i'll give him that | 22:13 |
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| fenn | this guy is my new hero: http://okcupid.com/profile/RyogaVee/pictures | 23:24 |
| fenn | or should i say "hiro" | 23:30 |
| kanzure | i can't stop laughing :( | 23:33 |
| kanzure | my face hurts | 23:33 |
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| kanzure | still laughing | 23:44 |
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| kanzure | http://designfiles.org/~bryan/meetlog/tags incomplete view of it (it's not counting people that have been written down only once) | 23:50 |
| kanzure | and obviously some of this seems to be off | 23:50 |
| kanzure | like, ybit never was talking about oct-tree | 23:50 |
| kanzure | and "john minarcik" was never talking about austin hacker association | 23:50 |
| kanzure | yeah wait, this is all wrong | 23:51 |
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| kanzure | http://designfiles.org/~bryan/meetlog/tags2 hrm. what's with the dupes | 23:56 |
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