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| faceface | where is the paper request gg? | 06:17 |
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| faceface | http://www.sciencenews.org/view/feature/id/32943/title/Nabbing_suspicious_SNPs | 06:17 |
| faceface | this is balls, but there are one or two good points: http://www.sciencenews.org/view/feature/id/57091/title/Odds_Are%2C_Its_Wrong | 06:18 |
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| kanzure | "multi-plexed automated genetic engineering" (MAGE) | 07:20 |
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| nsh | sounds good | 07:23 |
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| JayDugger | @follow librarycongress | 08:56 |
| JayDugger | In a retro '90s mood today...NIN, perhaps? | 08:58 |
| JayDugger | Whoops, sorry. That should've been the twitter window. | 09:11 |
| kanzure | JayDugger: http://bit.ly/structory could you answer again? we've updated it | 09:11 |
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| egeste | sup chupacabra | 10:32 |
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| kanzure | ooh ooh look! | 11:20 |
| kanzure | http://www.flickr.com/photos/victortrac/4516695937/ | 11:20 |
| kanzure | yay i'm licensed "creative commons" | 11:21 |
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| fenn | kanzure is an app store | 11:25 |
| kanzure | fenn: check email re: tudor | 11:32 |
| kanzure | er, i mean, bologna | 11:32 |
| kanzure | this guy is asking for some "online notebook" solutions: http://www.downstate.edu/pharmacology/faculty/lytton.html | 11:38 |
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| kanzure | "I have an enotebook that I've developed over many years in elisp (emacs) | 11:38 |
| kanzure | but I doubt that anyone who is not already an emacs fanatic would want | 11:38 |
| kanzure | to use it." | 11:38 |
| kanzure | "in general, I like to have some outline mode functionality, pointers to graphics rather than embedded and some integration with the versioning system." | 11:39 |
| kanzure | i'll probably tell him to just store that stuff in the mercurial repository | 11:41 |
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| kanzure | 80/20 buyers and aficionados, could you take a short 13q survey? http://bit.ly/structory | 12:14 |
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| kanzure | http://www.knowledgefoundations.com/Papers.html | 13:07 |
| Dustbin | that linked godaddy... | 13:07 |
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| kanzure | Dustbin: fooey. | 13:09 |
| kanzure | http://web.archive.org/web/20071207220329/http://www.knowledgefoundations.com/Papers.html | 13:09 |
| kanzure | hm doesn't look that interesting :x | 13:10 |
| kanzure | "page paper on basic knowledge theory, science and knowledge engineering methodologies by R L Ballard" | 13:10 |
| kanzure | ballard? | 13:10 |
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| kanzure | "open source in telecommunications" http://ossg.bcs.org/2010/03/22/open-source-in-telecommunications-london-220410/http://ossg.bcs.org/2010/03/22/open-source-in-telecommunications-london-220410/ | 13:26 |
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| jk4930 | kanzure: are you here? | 13:32 |
| kanzure | jk4930 hey :) | 13:36 |
| kanzure | jk4930: yes | 13:37 |
| jk4930 | hey | 13:37 |
| jk4930 | just a silly question do I have :) | 13:37 |
| jk4930 | what is your crap_meet_list? | 13:37 |
| kanzure | crap_meet ? | 13:37 |
| kanzure | where? | 13:37 |
| jk4930 | http://designfiles.org/~bryan/crap_meet_list.lst.txt | 13:37 |
| kanzure | it's a list of everyone i think | 13:38 |
| kanzure | except there's something wrong with it | 13:38 |
| kanzure | so i called it crap_meet_list | 13:38 |
| jk4930 | was just wondering about the "crap" :D | 13:38 |
| jk4930 | so, how are you? university is going fine? | 13:39 |
| kanzure | jk4930: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/meetlog/2009-07-01_to_2010-03-25.png | 13:39 |
| kanzure | i keep track of who i talk with daily | 13:39 |
| jk4930 | wow, you're a total control wonder. :) | 13:39 |
| jk4930 | i mean, you're extensive lists of everything, just wow. | 13:40 |
| jk4930 | you're -> your | 13:40 |
| jk4930 | tell me, are you hacking medical stuff? Phase III? ;) | 13:43 |
| kanzure | *cough* no, of course not! | 13:44 |
| jk4930 | hehe, of course. | 13:44 |
| jk4930 | do you still follow the OCE discussions? | 13:45 |
| kanzure | a little bit, here and there | 13:45 |
| jk4930 | possible that you know it, I'm in the group that should reform OCE. It's dead. | 13:47 |
| kanzure | i think you should just hang around here instead :) | 13:47 |
| jk4930 | could be true | 13:47 |
| kanzure | oce was never anything special (sorry guilio!) | 13:47 |
| kanzure | i know guilio worked hard on it :( | 13:47 |
| jk4930 | yeah, but he couldn't organize it the right way | 13:48 |
| jk4930 | i tried to get some students to love synth. biology. no success. :( | 13:51 |
| kanzure | which students? where | 13:51 |
| jk4930 | biology. germany | 13:52 |
| kanzure | hm | 13:53 |
| jk4930 | not very elite or hackers. so nothing to worry about. | 13:54 |
| jk4930 | just sad that they're that uninteressted. | 13:54 |
| jk4930 | on a space workshop this weekend the biology students were more open to it | 13:55 |
| kanzure | brb someone just lost a fingertip i think | 13:55 |
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| genehacker | is it time to break out the pig bladder enzymes? | 14:06 |
| fenn | pipet bot from ilan moyer: http://vimeo.com/9633707 | 14:26 |
| kanzure | http://www.testra.com/ | 14:53 |
| fenn | only in san francisco: http://fennetic.net/irc/vintage_battery.jpg | 14:58 |
| fenn | "vintage power source" | 14:58 |
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| kanzure | http://r-phylo.org/ phylogenetics in R | 15:10 |
| kanzure | what the *fuck* | 15:19 |
| kanzure | " | 15:19 |
| kanzure | Thiel wants to build artificial islands to escape Western civilization, John Galt style, and establish an anarcho-capitalist dreamland. Democracy is tyranny on the rich and must be abandoned" | 15:20 |
| kanzure | i would hardly call the seasteading institute a vehicle for "john galt" | 15:20 |
| genehacker | not ayn rand style and not underwater? | 15:21 |
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| kanzure | huh peter thiel is gay? | 16:14 |
| kanzure | http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2009/09/acorn_videomake.php?page=1 | 16:15 |
| kanzure | i don't know how they can call thiel "conservative" | 16:15 |
| kanzure | "He was also co-founding editor of the conservative Stanford Review and was a member of the Federalist Society, the conservative legal circle that has included Clarence Thomas, Robert Bork and Antonin Scalia" | 16:16 |
| kanzure | eh | 16:16 |
| kanzure | haha maybe siai is conservative | 16:23 |
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| kanzure | knome.com called me up to talk about CGI | 18:18 |
| kanzure | turns out they meant the CGI sequencers | 18:18 |
| kanzure | not the gateway interface :/ | 18:18 |
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| kanzure | http://www.fastcompany.com/1616120/nasa-obama-astronauts-budget-constellation-armstrong-lovell-cernan | 20:43 |
| QuantumG | sad eh | 20:49 |
| QuantumG | the outright ignorance of these "heroes" suggest why they've been silent for so many years | 20:49 |
| QuantumG | blowing $9B and achieving so little is a reason to cancel a program, not continue it. | 20:52 |
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| genehacker | you read the NASA budget right? | 21:49 |
| genehacker | they might have an asteroid or moon mining mission | 21:50 |
| genehacker | at the very least a mission to an asteroid to see what it's made of | 21:50 |
| kanzure | we've already done that | 21:50 |
| genehacker | we don't know if they are rock piles | 21:51 |
| genehacker | oh dang looks like they're just looking at melting ice and making oxygen | 21:56 |
| genehacker | I was hoping they were going to mine metals | 21:58 |
| * katsmeow-afk growls at the whole "NASA shining moment" after allowing the spacecraft to fly with the wrong heaters, not detecting the electrical overload untill after the tanks have ruptured | 21:59 | |
| katsmeow-afk | next time i screw up and 3 people nearly die, i want that to be called my shining moment too | 21:59 |
| genehacker | well it looks like they're certainly focused on resource extraction | 22:04 |
| genehacker | for fuel and air | 22:04 |
| genehacker | at the very least | 22:04 |
| QuantumG | yeah, the shining moment was that they didn't say "well, I guess they're fucked" and go home | 22:05 |
| katsmeow-afk | that would have been untenable | 22:07 |
| QuantumG | with a lesser team they probably would have been fucked though.. I expect today they'd be fucked. | 22:08 |
| katsmeow-afk | i'd hope today the computers would have checked the components and their proper operation and alerted the crew before detonation | 22:08 |
| QuantumG | so you'd get some other flaw. | 22:09 |
| katsmeow-afk | something idiotically stupid like "hey, it's pulling 4x the rated current | 22:09 |
| QuantumG | take it as a given that something has gone wrong.. now how do you get them home? | 22:09 |
| katsmeow-afk | iirc, 2 tanks blew, sequentially, with no fuses blown, no overpressure alarms, nothing | 22:10 |
| genehacker | so how do you make computers check the components? | 22:10 |
| katsmeow-afk | given it was known all the preflights possible can still allow someone to be sick in flight, i'd have kept a few pills int he medkit for bladder infections, for one | 22:11 |
| katsmeow-afk | generic all purpose antibiotics | 22:11 |
| QuantumG | pah, babying | 22:12 |
| QuantumG | men were men back then | 22:12 |
| katsmeow-afk | and died, too | 22:12 |
| katsmeow-afk | Apollo didn't die, i didn't say that | 22:12 |
| QuantumG | and were willing to die | 22:12 |
| QuantumG | Apollo 1's crew certainly did | 22:12 |
| katsmeow-afk | thing is, it was a totally avoidable senario | 22:12 |
| QuantumG | back then, there's was a purpose to the manned space program.. it was a national need | 22:13 |
| katsmeow-afk | yea, that was a hell of a stunt too, feeding pure O2 thru flammable lines | 22:13 |
| QuantumG | these days its a boondoggle to inspire little kids to do their science homework | 22:13 |
| katsmeow-afk | i was in hs back then, orpre-hs, and couldn't believe the mistakes that were made | 22:14 |
| genehacker | they avoided something like that recently | 22:15 |
| QuantumG | Apollo was war by other means.. and in those terms it the casualties are irrelevant. | 22:15 |
| QuantumG | 3 dudes died, woo | 22:15 |
| katsmeow-afk | it was a stupid error | 22:15 |
| genehacker | apparently the titanium company supply titanium for the next Mars rover didn't supply aerospace grade titanium | 22:15 |
| genehacker | so they're having to rebuild the whole thing | 22:16 |
| katsmeow-afk | wrong titanium, woo | 22:16 |
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| heath | "Robert Freitas Awarded Historic First Mechanosynthesis Patent" :\ | 23:59 |
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