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| JayDugger | Good morning, everyone. | 00:03 |
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| genehacker | who wants octopus arms? | 00:19 |
| genehacker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAiSOH7pFVM&feature=related | 00:19 |
| genehacker | bonus points if you can figure out what the metal guide things are fore | 00:22 |
| JayDugger | Anyone have access to this paper? | 00:47 |
| JayDugger | http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S1098612X08002453 | 00:47 |
| any02919026 | i forget, what irc nick is Ben Goertzel? | 00:47 |
| JayDugger | No idea for Dr. Goertzel. | 00:49 |
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| Utopiah | http://biogps.gnf.org/#goto=welcome | 02:57 |
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| JayDugger | What uses do people have for Gephi? Can I use it to make a bug dependency graph? | 05:10 |
| Utopiah | JayDugger: if you are into GraphViz/Gephi/Dot you might want to consider Processing too | 05:11 |
| JayDugger | I just want my boss to pull his head from the sand and manage problems in their critical path vs. FIFO. | 05:11 |
| JayDugger | Last In, First Out, rather. | 05:12 |
| JayDugger | I do that for him now, and am quite sick of it. | 05:12 |
| JayDugger | Thank you for the suggestion, Utopiah. | 05:12 |
| Utopiah | if you have a goal for your visualization you are already in a better position than 80% of people interested in the topic ;] | 05:14 |
| JayDugger | Infoporn to make my boss's eyes glaze over? | 05:14 |
| JayDugger | A low-brow goal, and one that condemns me as a manipulator instead of serving as a tool to edify my co-workers. | 05:15 |
| JayDugger | The ends will justify the means, no doubt. :) | 05:15 |
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| JayDugger | http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/git_reflex/ | 05:48 |
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| kanzure | yay for london hackerspace | 06:56 |
| kanzure | http://wiki.hackspace.org.uk/wiki/Projects/PCB_Making | 06:56 |
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| kanzure | casting videos from "Dave D" at gingery_machines http://metalshop.homestead.com/Videos.html | 08:07 |
| kanzure | wtf homestead.com is still alive | 08:08 |
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| Utopiah | (Robust Aerial Navigation in GPS-Denied Enivronments http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qQJwLJ857s September 2009 CSAIL at MIT) | 10:55 |
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| * kanzure just got done doing a presentation at capitalfactory.com | 13:18 | |
| kanzure | it went pretty well | 13:18 |
| JayDugger | Good to hear. | 13:23 |
| JayDugger | What sort of presentation did you give? | 13:23 |
| kanzure | a good one | 13:24 |
| kanzure | still in various meetings. sorry. | 13:24 |
| * kanzure will be back | 13:24 | |
| JayDugger | No worries. | 13:25 |
| kanzure | is this spam? i can't tell at first glance http://www.ll2t.cn/?p=12585 | 13:26 |
| kanzure | "can open source hardware, open source software as popular as << GNU/Linux" | 13:26 |
| JayDugger | Bad machine translation? | 13:27 |
| kanzure | http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/04/diy_40w_laser_cutter.html | 13:27 |
| kanzure | http://www.buildlog.net/cnc_laser/index.php | 13:28 |
| JayDugger | "Dear, why don't we register at Harbor Freight, and Make?" | 13:28 |
| kanzure | that's really well documented. that last link. | 13:28 |
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| kanzure | i need personal hosting | 18:38 |
| kanzure | i want twenty quintillion gigabytes and root | 18:39 |
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| kanzure | hello hundred-ideas | 18:50 |
| kanzure | how has progress been | 18:50 |
| kanzure | hundred-ideas: a friend of mine has conscripted me to hook up an SMS gateway to skdb for distributed instructions | 18:50 |
| kanzure | our first project is a distributed cake-making project | 18:50 |
| kanzure | where different people get different text messages based on where they are | 18:50 |
| kanzure | i.e. "get some flour" | 18:50 |
| hundred-ideas | hey guys | 18:55 |
| hundred-ideas | wow that is a truly awesome idea | 18:55 |
| hundred-ideas | I love it | 18:55 |
| hundred-ideas | flashmob construction | 18:55 |
| kanzure | yeah | 18:56 |
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| Salain | hey | 18:58 |
| kanzure | hello Salain | 18:59 |
| Salain | hadn't heard of hplus before - looking through it, interesting | 19:00 |
| Salain | friend works for nasa, he is designing their space-bound fabrication setup | 19:00 |
| kanzure | our idea is to "download hardware from the web" | 19:01 |
| kanzure | http://gnusha.org/ has some videos if you're interested | 19:01 |
| Salain | yeah reading through, UT Austin alum - good stuff | 19:06 |
| kanzure | i'd be interested in hearing about what your friend is doing.. or you too | 19:08 |
| * heath wonders how long it takes google to crawl your site ..it's been months since i've submitted | 19:11 | |
| Salain | I'm finishing a doctorate in neuroscience. He's the project lead on a few projects, but the one that is the most relevant is a remotely controllable machine shop which could be sent to extra-planetary locales - on the premise that it is vastly more efficient to send raw materials to machine parts as necessary than to send dupli- or triplicates of key items | 19:12 |
| Salain | heath - in my experience less than a week... | 19:12 |
| heath | o.O | 19:12 |
| Salain | do you have links to your site from pages that are already indexed? | 19:12 |
| Salain | or just the request you submitted | 19:12 |
| heath | Salain: yes | 19:12 |
| heath | it's linked from hackerspaces.org | 19:12 |
| heath | on google groups and on twitter | 19:13 |
| heath | nice major btw | 19:13 |
| Salain | and you're sure the link at hackerspaces is indexable? | 19:13 |
| heath | search 'tweak labs' | 19:13 |
| heath | oh, uh, i don't see why not.. | 19:14 |
| Salain | and thanks - it is good stuff | 19:14 |
| Salain | (neuroscience) | 19:14 |
| heath | right | 19:14 |
| Dustbin | are you in austin? | 19:14 |
| heath | nope, florence, al | 19:14 |
| heath | http://tweaklabs.org/Heath+Matlock | 19:15 |
| Dustbin | ah sorry meant Salain | 19:15 |
| heath | what was your dissertation on? | 19:15 |
| heath | whoops Dustbin, I thought you were Salain, didn't look at username :P | 19:15 |
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| Salain | in Houston dustbin, graduated UT austin though | 19:16 |
| Dustbin | ok | 19:16 |
| Salain | heath - yeah it is fine, if they add a rel="nofollow" tag to your link then google won't index it | 19:17 |
| Dustbin | Bryan and maybe a couple other people on here are Austin Hackerspace people | 19:17 |
| Salain | but that is not present, so dunno | 19:17 |
| heath | good point Salain | 19:17 |
| Salain | I miss Austin a ton | 19:17 |
| Salain | will strongly consider it for my assistant professorship | 19:18 |
| Salain | Houston is only ayight in relation to Dallas | 19:19 |
| Salain | heath - tweaklabs is being spidered... | 19:20 |
| heath | how can you check? | 19:20 |
| Salain | google it | 19:20 |
| Salain | different permutations | 19:20 |
| Salain | I doubt http://tweaklabs.org/_edit/CrackMe would have been linked via anything but spidering | 19:21 |
| heath | oh isee | 19:21 |
| heath | heh, i didn't search for tweaklabs.org ..can i blame it on lack of sleep again? | 19:22 |
| Salain | and you should be able to see it on your site traffic report, depends on your host | 19:22 |
| Salain | I think some site hosts like yahoo would remove it from the list, but generally you should see it | 19:22 |
| heath | it's not my server unfortunately.. /me checks to see if he has read access to /var/log/apache2 | 19:23 |
| heath | yup, it's been crawling. | 19:24 |
| Salain | good - what made you think it wasn't? | 19:24 |
| heath | time to edit the source of gitit it seems and add relevant metainfo | 19:24 |
| heath | tweaklabs.org isn't #1, that's why :P | 19:25 |
| hundred-ideas | Salain: a friend, John Cumbers, has extolled the virtues of "making it, not taking it" on distant missions. He is interested in using microbes to manufacture feedstocks for manufacturing and is researching cold and pressure resistant microbes. | 19:25 |
| hundred-ideas | he is at Nasa Ames. | 19:25 |
| heath | not even on the front page of hundreds of results | 19:25 |
| Salain | hundred-ideas- hmm microbes, that's a twist. Any details on what kind of feedstocks? | 19:27 |
| hundred-ideas | I don't know lately | 19:27 |
| hundred-ideas | but plastics have been discussed, and I know some microbes can make hydrazine as a metabolic intermediate (minute quantities, so far) | 19:28 |
| Salain | would be tough, I'm not familiar with many cases where you can get microbes to generate sufficiently long polymers - but who knows. | 19:28 |
| hundred-ideas | and gasses of course, CO2, O2, and water H2O | 19:28 |
| Salain | yeah, microbes are great at breaking things down - they have tiny mouths so it is important :) | 19:28 |
| kanzure | Salain: i would like to get in contact with your remote machine shop buddy. i think i have some interesting projects for him | 19:29 |
| hundred-ideas | He is mostly researching "chassis" level qualities that might make a microbe well-suited to a space-like environment | 19:29 |
| kanzure | like, stuff he might find useful | 19:29 |
| kanzure | but i don't know | 19:29 |
| Salain | kanzure - he's in new york on vacation with his wife - but I'll holler at him when he is back in town | 19:29 |
| kanzure | :D | 19:30 |
| kanzure | who goes to NY for vacation? | 19:30 |
| kanzure | O_o | 19:30 |
| kanzure | "yeah for vacation i hang out at the NYSE" | 19:30 |
| Salain | I haven't talked to him since the obama change in focus, so I don't really know how his projects are fairing with the new budget - hate to refer and find out bad shit has been going down :) | 19:30 |
| kanzure | hah. i'd love to do that sometime actually | 19:30 |
| Salain | lol, I'm going to NY for a vacation this summer... | 19:30 |
| Salain | first time going there, so doing the basics | 19:30 |
| Salain | made it here via the DIYbio page - trying to figure out what laws I'd be breaking by running certain cell cultures at home | 19:32 |
| Salain | garage biology info is woefully sparse | 19:33 |
| kanzure | what type of cell culture | 19:35 |
| kanzure | er, i mean, what species | 19:35 |
| Salain | dog/cat, no pathogens | 19:36 |
| Salain | (no viruses or bacteria along side them) | 19:37 |
| Salain | I think it's firmly under BSL1 | 19:37 |
| Salain | (think) | 19:37 |
| Salain | then cryo stuff - liquid nitrogen, probably non-toxic cryopreservatives | 19:38 |
| kanzure | cryopreservation on the low-end, or cryogenics stuff? | 19:39 |
| Salain | hm? cryopreserving w/ glycerol in liquid nitrogen. No stem cells or gametes, no "real" cryogenics stuff, only bringing cells out of culture every several years to re-derive them for better preservation | 19:41 |
| kanzure | okay | 19:41 |
| Salain | pretty kosher, I think... | 19:41 |
| Salain | but can't find much info at all about regulations on this in the home | 19:41 |
| kanzure | there are sometimes "zoning laws" | 19:41 |
| Salain | my guess is that my condo association would have hystrionics | 19:41 |
| Dustbin | lol | 19:42 |
| Salain | maybe I can convince them I'm really addicted to liquid n2 ice cream | 19:42 |
| Salain | as I'm toting up 50L dewers of LN2 | 19:42 |
| Salain | (spelled histrionics, btw) | 19:44 |
| katsmeow-afk | which is a lil wierd | 19:45 |
| katsmeow-afk | as a byproduct of the poorly named hysterical, to misspell it with a 'i' seems wierd to me | 19:45 |
| Salain | doesn't it? | 19:46 |
| Salain | the online etymology dictionary says hysterical predates histrionic, which isn't surprising since the hys are pretty greek | 19:48 |
| Salain | right - I'd heard this before: hysterical - from the greek hysteros which means "womb". Hysteria was originally thought to be an affectation caused by a malady in the uterus. | 19:49 |
| * katsmeow-afk nods | 19:49 | |
| hundred-ideas | you know what they say about assuming... | 19:52 |
| kanzure | it makes everyone else but me an ass? | 19:52 |
| hundred-ideas | Indeed, bryan, indeed :) | 19:53 |
| Salain | and histrio, the root of histrionics they guess comes from the etruscans - ancient italians (tuscany) that lived from 800BC-200BC. So both roots are from the same time period, but since the greek's used only male actors it is unlikely that they made much of a connection between uteruses and acting | 19:53 |
| Salain | I feel edified. | 19:53 |
| katsmeow-afk | someone feel Salain to verify that? | 19:53 |
| * Salain presents | 19:54 | |
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| genehacker | shoot sound on my system is messed up | 20:15 |
| genehacker | anyone familar with linux sound errors? | 20:15 |
| kanzure | yes | 20:17 |
| kanzure | what's messed up about it? | 20:17 |
| genehacker | no sound period | 20:18 |
| heath | genehacker: ubuntu? | 20:18 |
| genehacker | yep | 20:18 |
| heath | /query ubottu sound | 20:18 |
| heath | in your irc client | 20:19 |
| kanzure | heath: try /say /query | 20:19 |
| heath | /query | 20:19 |
| heath | yup, that works | 20:19 |
| heath | gracias | 20:19 |
| genehacker | what does that command do? | 20:19 |
| kanzure | /query is a way to private message someone | 20:19 |
| genehacker | and? | 20:19 |
| heath | the bot will give you instructions on troubleshooting sound problems | 20:20 |
| * heath is trying to figure out how to best use a 10x10x10 room | 20:20 | |
| Dustbin | CAVE? | 20:21 |
| genehacker | use a genetic algorithm to find optimal space usage | 20:21 |
| heath | any recommended ones? :) | 20:21 |
| kanzure | .. | 20:22 |
| genehacker | so what must go into space? | 20:23 |
| genehacker | how tall is space | 20:23 |
| kanzure | he just said 10x10x10 | 20:23 |
| kanzure | so one of those dimensions is going to be height | 20:23 |
| kanzure | my guess is that it will be ten | 20:23 |
| kanzure | >_< | 20:23 |
| heath | hehe | 20:24 |
| heath | *yawn* | 20:24 |
| heath | i shall look into it later | 20:24 |
| genehacker | it's a perfect cube? | 20:26 |
| Salain | with a room that is a perfect cube, you should put 12 chairs and 6 tables | 20:32 |
| Salain | 2 chairs and 1 table on each surface | 20:32 |
| Salain | also, marijuana. | 20:32 |
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| katsmeow-afk | i suspect the marijuana would make such a furniture layout more pleasant | 20:40 |
| genehacker | heath what units is 10x10x10 in? | 20:40 |
| genehacker | surely not barn parsecs? | 20:40 |
| katsmeow-afk | it should also have a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj3_v7xCyJ0&feature=player_embedded centered in the space, so you couls sit on any surface and enjoy it | 20:41 |
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| genehacker | fixed my sound card, just had to install new proprietary drivers that let the NSA listen in on my conversations | 20:53 |
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