2010-04-20.log

--- Day changed Tue Apr 20 2010
genehackerI've been considering one myself00:07
genehackeronly problem is the damned slow human growth rate00:08
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fenncool. parametric timing pulley http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:136200:38
fenntags: "useful"00:41
fennwell that's good to know00:41
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fennhttp://www.aerogel.org/01:36
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fennurbandictionary is a great source for project names03:42
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chupacabralol05:04
fennhum nasatv is delayed by two minutes05:06
fenndudes looking at computers.. fascinating05:07
fennyou'd think they'd have a telescope watching the shuttle 05:08
JayDuggerYeah, space isn't always spectacular.05:33
QuantumGNASA == boring people.. NASA tv = boring people filming boring people05:34
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JayDuggerNot quite. Occasionally NASA does something interesting.06:34
JayDuggerJust not recently.06:34
JayDuggerLike since Apollo ended. :(06:34
klafkaheh yeah in the last ~30 or so years06:35
JayDugger1980? 06:35
JayDuggerSkylab counts?06:35
klafkai dunno the ~ means approximately06:37
klafka:P06:37
JayDuggerBlah...I think will forego my usual space rant...and point out Bigelow Aerospace does interesting work right now.06:37
JayDuggerAnd return to housework.06:37
fennhalf-sleep idea: instead of "social" or "socialized" or "societal" how about "shared engineering knowledge database"06:43
parolangThe next Mars lander would have been cool...I don't know if it's still in the plan.06:44
parolangNuclear powered, I think it's called the Mars Lab or something.06:45
parolangI'm rather relieved that they cut constellation.06:45
parolangIt sounded like constellation wasn't going anywhere.06:45
JayDuggerMars Science Lab.06:52
JayDuggerIt has a RTG, IIRC.06:52
parolangyeah, I always thought that one sounded interesting, just from a technical point of view06:54
JayDuggerhttp://nuclear.gov/pdfFiles/MMRTG.pdf06:54
parolangYeah, one of those things I knew at one time but then stopped thinking about.06:55
JayDuggerhttp://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/mission/launchvehicle/06:55
JayDuggerAltas V, in Fall 2011.06:55
parolangAll I know is that it is the power source of Tony Stark's arc reactor.06:56
JayDuggerHeh, heh...Marvel Comics did a technical manual for the Iron Man armor.06:56
JayDugger"assembled by bacteria..." no fooling...06:57
parolangOh yeah?  Might be cool enough to buy :)06:57
JayDuggerProbably available illegally at your local source of torrents, or at your neighborhood comic book shop..."The Iron Manual."06:57
parolangOr...online? :)06:58
JayDuggerProbably...couldn't say where you know, but there's always google.06:58
parolangI have my Star Trek TNG Technical Manual in my bookcase, just in case I need to look up the power source for photon torpedos.06:58
parolangThat first link you gave is interesting.06:59
JayDuggerOh, the RTG PDF?07:00
parolangyeah07:00
parolangI guess mainly because I'm unfamiliar with the technology.07:00
JayDuggerYou can probably find a lot more if you wget -A pdf http://jpl.nasa.gov or the like.07:00
parolangsure...hmm, is plutonium-238 dioxide radioactive?07:01
parolangYes...the answer is yes.07:02
JayDuggerWouldn't be much point in its use for power otherwise. :)07:07
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genehackerassembled by bacteria?07:29
JayDuggerIron Man's armor, don't you know...arguing from fiction, yeah, I know.07:39
parolangYeah, given all we know about Iran Man's armor, being assembled by bacteria is just unrealistic.08:00
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JayDuggerLet's not argue imaginary hardware. I apologize for bringing it up.08:04
kanzurei *am* iron man, you insensitive clod!08:10
kanzureer, also, good morning08:10
parolangI was just teasing JayDugger :)08:13
JayDuggerNo worries...08:13
parolangThe main thing I liked about the Iron Man movie was watching the suit get constructed, the interface, etc...a guy can dream :)08:14
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kanzure"I already wear sunglasses to browse the web, on account of all the flash and poor color choices."08:31
kanzure"Although this is an improvement over the 90s. Back then I wore a welding mask."08:31
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kanzurexprizes for human enhancement :) http://groups.google.com/group/diybio/msg/46003499034c9b2508:52
Salain"neurobiology" is...08:59
Salainwell it is good I guess, but things like imaging, memory, consciousness, decision making - they aren't the kind of things where an x-prize is really going to make a big impact09:00
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Salainhoward hughes has thrown billions at those kind of problems09:01
Salainnih as well09:01
kanzurea little birdie was telling me that there'll be an upcoming xprize for demonstrating the ability to encode an arbitrary sequence of numbers and have them played back perfectly (50 digits or something)09:05
kanzure(yes using a savant is cheating)09:06
kanzureis hanno a male or female name?09:35
kanzure"strange creature lives without oxygen" http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/04/08/strange-creature-lives-oxygen/?test=latestnews09:37
kanzure"This newfound creature, a loriciferan found more than 10,000 feet deep off the southern coast of Greece, lives completely without oxygen"09:37
kanzureyay extremophiles09:37
kanzurehm they are making their assumption on the lack of mitochondria and their habitat09:38
kanzurebut even at those depths stray oxygen atoms and o2 molecules can find their way09:38
* kanzure looks through bmc biology for the article09:40
kanzurehttp://www.biomedcentral.com/bmcbiol/09:40
kanzurehttp://www.biomedcentral.com/1741-7007/8/30 "The first metazoa living in permanently anoxic conditions"09:40
kanzurepdf: http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1741-7007-8-30.pdf09:40
kanzurelocal: http://designfiles.org/papers/The%20first%20metazoa%20living%20in%20permanently%20anoxic%20conditions%20-%20extremophiles.pdf09:41
kanzureso apparently facebook apps can only run on port 8010:00
kanzurefacebook literally will not let you use any http server on any other port to communicate with their servers10:00
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katsmeow-afki seem to recall some living whatevers found in the deep Pacific 20+ yrs ago with trinary stranded dna, not binary ; and living without oxygen as an oxidant isn't new10:33
kanzurehttp://designfiles.org/~bryan/meetlog/2009-07-01_to_2010-04-20.png10:36
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gnushahttp://jan.krutisch.de/en/2010/04/20/the-shift-that-wasnt-meant-to-be.html13:29
gnushastalk: jan krutisch <jan.krutisch@mindmatters.de>13:29
gnushalicensing discussions happening over at adafruit.com http://forums.adafruit.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&p=7624513:30
gnushahttp://openchord.org/13:30
gnushahttp://www.wopular.com/open-network-lab-japan-gets-%E2%80%9Cy-combinator%E2%80%9D-incubating-global-startups13:31
gnushahttp://article.wn.com/view/2010/04/07/Open_for_hackers/13:31
gnusha"The Last HOPE: Citizen Engineer - Consumer Electronics Hacking and Open13:31
gnushaSource Hardware part 1 of 6. Speakers: Phillip Torrone, Limor Fried"13:31
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fennwah.17:05
NoahjHm?17:05
fennadl is down17:09
fennand heybryan.org17:11
fennso i have no decent remote shell17:12
fenni saw this on bioshock but i didnt think it was real: http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-03/shock-bullet17:12
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JayDuggerGood evening.18:33
NoahjGood evening... 18:36
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JayDuggerEvening, fenn.18:52
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fennhm23:50
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fenndeltabot made with arduino and rc servos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Luq8MJjxXjU&feature=player_embedded23:51
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