2010-04-21.log

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fenncoooool http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/04/tentacle_robot.html01:04
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hundred-ideasanybody awake?05:35
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Utopiahhttp://latexsearch.com/06:17
JayDuggerOh, nifty!06:18
hundred-ideasmorning folks06:52
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gnushawhat is a "PERT" diagram and why would it be relevant to instruction generation?07:01
gnushafenn: tub should be back online now. leibniz breaks the network whenever i run /etc/init.d/networking start07:02
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gnusha"(PhysOrg.com) -- An Italian inventor, Enrico Dini, chairman of the company Monolite UK Ltd, has developed a huge three-dimensional printer called D-Shape that can print entire buildings out of sand and an inorganic binder. The printer works by spraying a thin layer of sand followed by a layer of magnesium-based binder from hundreds of nozzles on its underside. The glue turns the sand to solid stone, which is built up layer by layer from the bottom up to form a sculpture, or a sandstone building. "07:41
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hundred-ideasthat sounds pretty awesome07:59
* gnusha heads over to the austin hackerspace08:06
gnusha2pm to 3pm i'm doing a presentation at the automated design lab08:06
gnushadoes anyone have suggestions for what i should include? i'm going to give my latest spiells08:06
gnushabut the topic isn't set in stone08:06
* gnusha is definitely going to hit someone over the head about davinci being down all the time08:06
gnusha"best of news.ycombinator.com" http://hackermonthly.com/08:11
gnushaoh it doesn't actually exist yet08:11
gnushahttp://searchyc.com/08:11
gnushathere we go08:11
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genehacker2-3 I have class09:07
genehackerwhat are you presenting about?09:07
gnushai don't know yet09:09
gnushai'm sure it's exciting though!09:09
genehackerwhat bolt sizes do you have on you gnusha, you are kanzure right?09:26
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genehackerhttp://www.taxpayeraccess.org/issues/frpaa/frpaa_action/10-0416.shtml11:51
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kanzurehttp://wiki.eth-0.nl/index.php/Eth0:2010_Summer_CFP a conference in the netherlands on biohacking, open source and hackerspaces15:59
kanzure"DIY Biology and Return of the Citizen Scientist"15:59
kanzuresounds like an episode of star wars15:59
kanzurebah gridbeam is "a revolution in diy engineering" ? http://www.sas.org/tcs/weeklyIssues_2008/2008-09-05/bookreview/index.html16:01
kanzurehm it cites whole earth review16:01
kanzurewhois: sheldon greaves16:01
kanzure"and open source everything"16:02
* bkero is a revolution in diy engineering.16:07
bkerokanzure: You should secure travel, lodgings, and speaking times for everyone in this channel, as we're all DIY biology luminaries.16:08
kanzureokay16:09
bkerosweet16:09
kanzurefirst i need to give fenn some money16:09
bkerolol16:09
kanzurewell, paypal.com has been a bitch with me16:09
bkerofenn: You should secure travel, lodgings, and speaking times for everyone in this channel, as we're all DIY biology luminaries.16:09
kanzurenono that's not what i meant16:09
kanzurei mean he requested something before you16:09
kanzureand paypal.com still hasn't approved my money transfers to him or anything16:10
kanzureblah16:10
jrayhawkPerhaps you guys should be doing banking transfers like normal sane people?16:20
jrayhawkWell, maybe not sane, but still more effective than paypal.16:20
kanzurewhat is a "banking transfer"?16:22
kanzurehttp://github.com/russss/hackspace-foundation-sites16:27
jrayhawkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automated_Clearing_House16:27
jrayhawkAlthough things are much easier if you guys use the same bank.16:27
jrayhawkAlso wire transfers.16:29
kanzurewhy do wire transfers make most people uneasy?16:29
jrayhawkU.S. and many other banking systems are based on a horrible 'pull' model that means anyone with knowledge of a given routing and account number can take money out of that account.16:31
jrayhawkUnauthorized pulls are refundable, but it's still a hassle for all involved.16:32
jrayhawkSince most people don't understand how to erect secure communication channels or storage, the distribution of those numbers is risky.16:32
jrayhawkThe "unauthorized pulls are refundable" part is also a problem because it means any exchange can be reversed for up to some days (30? 60? don't remember) afterwards16:34
jrayhawkEssentially both parties need to thoroughly trust eachother for it to work out.16:34
jrayhawkI expect the both of you do, though.16:34
kanzurei knew things were broken16:37
kanzurebut this is hilariously broken16:37
jrayhawkYeah. People with sane, nationalized banking systems laugh and laugh at us.16:37
jrayhawkNationalized banking systems also allow for the completely automated implementation of taxation.16:38
genehackerso tax time isn't so hard in other countries?16:40
jrayhawkIn well-thought-out systems, it's a continuous and automated process.16:40
jrayhawkAll the above security concerns apply to checks, too, obviously, which is why online scamming is so damned easy.16:43
kanzurefenn: matt is using hg for graphsynth now16:46
kanzurei did a presentation at adl today16:46
kanzureand he was saying "gee i'm starting to see how nice distributed revision control is"16:46
kanzure>_<16:46
genehackeryour presentation was about:16:48
kanzureautomated design of microfluidic lab-on-a-chip systems16:48
kanzureand statistical approximation of building topology from user-based wifi heatmaps of a building16:48
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kanzurehttp://www.opensourcefood.com/17:40
kanzurehttp://singularityhub.com/2010/01/21/igniting-a-brain-computer-interface-revolution-bci-x-prize/18:02
QuantumGA typical prize development process takes 8-14 months to complete. 18:08
QuantumGI'll be interested to see what they come up with18:08
kanzurehttp://www.ecofriendlymag.com/sustainable-transporation-and-alternative-fuel/x-prize-foundation-aims-to-launch-100m-in-prizes-over-next-10-years-targeting-4-key-areas/18:09
kanzureneurobiology, personalized medicine, healthcare advancement, physician augmentation/telemedicine18:09
kanzure"18:21
kanzure"Would this made sense to you? Would following this mean you would bring more cool tools and gadgets for all to use if you could mark them as a tool, meaning you wouldn't come in to find your line following robot was now a flame throwing attack droid!18:21
kanzureMy idea for the sticker is the blue circle with a white cutout of a hammer. Any other ideas?"18:21
kanzure"So I was thinking, there is some stuff in the space that we shouldn't hack. Like the wifi robot tank. What are peoples thoughts on a small sticker you can put on things you donate/lend/the space buys, that denotes that some thing is a hacking tool."18:21
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kanzurehundred-ideas: hey18:39
kanzurehundred-ideas: the other guy on the project was thinking "project projector"18:40
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kanzureor ppldj18:40
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genehackerwhy the heck do you have to pay to get ISO and ASTM standards20:45
QuantumGcause they're cunts20:50
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Aliksyaaaawn22:31
QuantumGI wonder if plasma can be used as a flywheel22:32
QuantumGwith magnetic bearings 22:33
QuantumGinstead of dumping or drawing momentum from a solid flywheel22:33
Aliksstrange idea22:33
Alikswhat for?22:33
QuantumGsatellite maneuvering22:34
QuantumGor energy storage..22:34
QuantumGmight even be some interesting direct electric conversion advantages there22:34
QuantumGhttp://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/04/silk-brain-computer-interface/22:35
QuantumGrandom22:35
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