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| splicer | Is this legitimate? opensciencesummit.com | 00:05 |
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| jrayhawk | http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_USB_Host I guess the one big advantage I am expecting from the next Maemo phone is not going to be an advantage anymore soon? | 00:09 |
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| splicer | does anyone know if meredith patterson hangs out on freenode nowadays and if so what her nick is? | 04:33 |
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| fenn | http://youtube.com/watch?v=6LOednv-nQ4 | 06:57 |
| fenn | nanonar | 06:58 |
| fenn | i havent seen mlp in a year | 06:58 |
| splicer | fenn: thanks | 06:58 |
| fenn | splicer: joseph jackson's working very hard on open science summit, in what sense do you mean "legitimate" | 06:59 |
| fenn | data's a fool for not having backups | 07:02 |
| fenn | a good character never manages to stay dead for long anyway | 07:02 |
| fenn | i guess i'll share tonight's work with the channel, here's a list of neato molecular biology movies, may not all work: http://fennetic.net/irc/molecularmovies.urls | 07:04 |
| fenn | wget is going bonkers | 07:05 |
| splicer | fenn: yeah, I realized that later. I was just surprised over something I saw there but it makes perfect sense now. | 07:07 |
| splicer | fenn: thanks | 07:07 |
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| kanzure | splicer: yeah opensciencesummit.com is legit | 07:37 |
| kanzure | splicer: meredith does not hang out any more | 07:37 |
| kanzure | fenn: glad to see you taking me up on the .url/.urls/url.txt standard :D | 07:43 |
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| InkBlob | i'm learning a lot from the link above thaaangks. | 07:55 |
| InkBlob | in particular, biopunk.org is enlightening. | 07:56 |
| InkBlob | and diybio | 07:58 |
| InkBlob | how old is everyone by the way, i'm 20, part french and japanese. | 08:05 |
| InkBlob | i graphic-design pretty much anything. posters, websites, portfolios, book covers... | 08:06 |
| kanzure | i'm 20 | 08:18 |
| InkBlob | hey, same age. :) | 08:22 |
| kanzure | i'm getting old | 08:22 |
| InkBlob | kewl | 08:22 |
| kanzure | get your olds off of me | 08:23 |
| InkBlob | me too | 08:23 |
| kanzure | maybe it's contagious | 08:23 |
| InkBlob | umm how do i do that | 08:23 |
| kanzure | InkBlob: translation error | 08:23 |
| InkBlob | anyways | 08:23 |
| kanzure | nevermind | 08:23 |
| InkBlob | do you have any links on improving mental capacity? | 08:23 |
| InkBlob | in learning | 08:23 |
| InkBlob | like brain enhancement | 08:24 |
| InkBlob | with somekind of technology. | 08:24 |
| kanzure | http://supermemo.com/ | 08:24 |
| kanzure | i don't know what "mental cpaacity" means | 08:24 |
| InkBlob | i'm not too sure what i'm talking about neither. but i think i'm saying something that increases memory, and intelligence like IQ | 08:25 |
| InkBlob | like a hat you put on your head and helps you think | 08:25 |
| InkBlob | or something. | 08:25 |
| InkBlob | maybe i'll just make a tin-foil hat | 08:25 |
| InkBlob | supermemo seems like a software, but it will sure to help. thangks. | 08:26 |
| Utopiah | http://www.mnemosyne-proj.org/ | 08:27 |
| Utopiah | (yet IMHO memorization is not the scalable way to go) | 08:27 |
| InkBlob | nice | 08:30 |
| kanzure | huh the wikipedia article on 'intelligence' links to 'transhumanism' | 08:39 |
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| InkBlob | the end is nigh. | 08:41 |
| splicer | oki | 08:41 |
| InkBlob | singularity is to begin. | 08:41 |
| splicer | yeah, I can smell it | 08:42 |
| splicer | smells like cult and old spice | 08:43 |
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| kanzure | fenn: have you had a chance to look at the email from oleg? | 08:56 |
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| kanzure | more machine porn | 09:36 |
| kanzure | http://www.glacern.com/videolounge | 09:36 |
| kanzure | elevenarms recommends the continuous production video | 09:36 |
| kanzure | http://www.glacern.com/index.php?page=video_index&video=1&video_name=production_turning | 09:36 |
| kanzure | it's all HD too | 09:37 |
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| kanzure | hi klafka, JayDugger | 10:08 |
| klafka | yo | 10:08 |
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| Utopiah | pwned Financial meltdown imperils [ITER fusion] reactor http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100528/full/465532a.html | 12:29 |
| genehacker | that's bad | 12:38 |
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| Utopiah | :\ | 13:00 |
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| kanzure | elevenarms: do you have a new list of things to buy from mesanet.com? | 14:14 |
| elevenarms | indeed... | 14:14 |
| elevenarms | sending it over now | 14:14 |
| elevenarms | still game to laser some things? | 14:15 |
| kanzure | yes | 14:17 |
| elevenarms | list ahoy | 14:17 |
| kanzure | should i send this over to them, or did you order it? | 14:18 |
| elevenarms | send it over to them... | 14:19 |
| elevenarms | go ahed and call them with payment info aswell | 14:19 |
| kanzure | the original list was: 5i20, 7i37T, 7i30, 7i40 and the new one is 3x 7i40H, 1x 5i20, 1x 7i37A, and some connectors/cables | 14:20 |
| elevenarms | correct | 14:20 |
| elevenarms | the 7i30 can't support the 48v motors | 14:20 |
| kanzure | i see | 14:21 |
| elevenarms | so we're running 3 7i40 high voltage | 14:21 |
| elevenarms | each only uses half of the pins on the 50pin cable | 14:21 |
| elevenarms | they're going to make us a special cable | 14:21 |
| kanzure | cool | 14:23 |
| kanzure | okay, i sent it | 14:23 |
| elevenarms | gravy | 14:24 |
| kanzure | when do you want to do some lasering | 14:25 |
| kanzure | i have something from 7pm to 9:30pm that i have to do over the net | 14:25 |
| elevenarms | how about now? | 14:26 |
| kanzure | okay. give me 10min to get over to the shop | 14:27 |
| kanzure | w | 14:27 |
| kanzure | crap, this isn't vim | 14:27 |
| elevenarms | see you in 15 | 14:27 |
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| kanzure | elevenarms: that was a lot of fail | 16:02 |
| kanzure | tentative scipy 2010 schedule: | 16:18 |
| kanzure | http://docs.google.com/View?id=ddwstd5r_19hrzrvhft&utm_source=SciPy2010&utm_campaign=cab4909bc3-SciPy_2010_Authors&utm_medium=email | 16:18 |
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| kanzure | hello elevenarms | 16:49 |
| elevenarms | hola | 16:49 |
| kanzure | looks like a storm is brewing | 16:49 |
| elevenarms | indeed it does | 16:49 |
| elevenarms | when is fenn awake? | 16:52 |
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| fenn | New Meetup Group: Laboratory Managers of the SF Bay Area | 18:24 |
| fenn | elevenarms: it's morning in fennville | 18:24 |
| elevenarms | good to know | 18:24 |
| elevenarms | what's your recommendation for open source stepper drivers? | 18:25 |
| elevenarms | looking to go super cheap and bipolar | 18:25 |
| genehacker | what are you doing with steppers | 18:25 |
| elevenarms | hektor clone | 18:26 |
| kanzure | fennville: the latest destination of the asshole express | 18:26 |
| kanzure | i tried to make it funny | 18:26 |
| kanzure | but it didn't work | 18:26 |
| fenn | 7I40L is rated at 10A 40 VDC per axis while the 7I40H is rated at 7A 80 VDC per axis. | 18:28 |
| fenn | so you should get the 7I40H | 18:28 |
| fenn | the 50 pin cables are just scsi connectors | 18:28 |
| elevenarms | for the puma? | 18:28 |
| fenn | yeah | 18:28 |
| fenn | i havent finished reading backlog | 18:29 |
| elevenarms | oh... yeah that's what we ordered | 18:29 |
| elevenarms | 3 of them | 18:29 |
| fenn | ok then i dont know what you want me to answer | 18:29 |
| elevenarms | i talked to peter today | 18:29 |
| elevenarms | you can run 2 7i40 on one cable | 18:29 |
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| elevenarms | my req for a stepper driver is unrelated | 18:30 |
| elevenarms | just looking for something cheap | 18:30 |
| elevenarms | how do you feel about the reprap ones? | 18:30 |
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| kanzure | you missed nothing | 18:31 |
| fenn | hum i probably would have just run the motors at lower voltage, but whatever | 18:32 |
| elevenarms | you can never have enough speed | 18:33 |
| elevenarms | i think kanzure agrees | 18:33 |
| fenn | elevenarms: the pololu stepper drivers are super cheap and quiet, but hard to get a heatsink on and only good for tiny motors | 18:33 |
| elevenarms | up to nema 24? | 18:33 |
| elevenarms | or really tiny? | 18:33 |
| fenn | would probably run nema 23 | 18:33 |
| kanzure | elevenarms: you should glue some suction cups on the back of the servo mounts for the hektor clone | 18:34 |
| fenn | i think they're like 2.5A | 18:34 |
| kanzure | er, stepper mounts | 18:34 |
| fenn | oh you're doing hektor? should work fine | 18:34 |
| elevenarms | yea... | 18:34 |
| elevenarms | ~$12 each | 18:34 |
| elevenarms | good price | 18:34 |
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| fenn | does that have a counterweight? | 18:34 |
| elevenarms | no... i was thinking of adding a third leg | 18:35 |
| elevenarms | would need to write some code to figure the tension | 18:35 |
| fenn | i meant counterweight over the top steppers, so they don't have to work to keep it held up | 18:37 |
| kanzure | elevenarms: if you have the laptop with the parallel port (or a usb-parallel cable) the drivers are here: | 18:37 |
| kanzure | http://designfiles.org/~bryan/uls25ps/ | 18:38 |
| kanzure | http://designfiles.org/~bryan/uls25ps/ulsxpdriver.zip | 18:38 |
| elevenarms | awesome. | 18:38 |
| fenn | you could tension the platform with a third leg too, just use some pulleys so you dont get a pendulum effect going on | 18:38 |
| fenn | i could draw a diagram if that's not self explanatory | 18:38 |
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| elevenarms | diagram would be awesome | 18:38 |
| kanzure | heh fenn's diagram: "IT'S A PENDULUM" | 18:39 |
| fenn | prepare for kolourpaint awfulness | 18:39 |
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| elevenarms | im ready | 18:41 |
| fenn | oops | 18:44 |
| fenn | i seem to have filled up davinci | 18:44 |
| fenn | http://fennetic.net/irc/hektor_counterweight.png | 18:46 |
| fenn | you're limited to 9.8m/s^2 with this arrangement | 18:47 |
| fenn | but that should be enough i think | 18:47 |
| fenn | also you could do a capstan drive | 18:48 |
| elevenarms | hmm | 18:50 |
| fenn | http://fennetic.net/irc/hektor_capstan.png | 18:52 |
| fenn | if you're super picky about keeping constant tension on the lines you can replace the springs with regulated pneumatic cylinders | 18:52 |
| elevenarms | what no flywheel? | 18:53 |
| fenn | funding ran out for the fusion reactor... | 18:53 |
| elevenarms | couldn't get it cold enough? | 18:53 |
| fenn | too many rats in the vacuum lines | 18:54 |
| elevenarms | i see | 18:54 |
| fenn | they nest in the radiation shielding you see | 18:54 |
| fenn | and then turn into mutant zombie atomic rats | 18:54 |
| elevenarms | playing god will only get you in trouble fenn | 18:55 |
| fenn | i wonder if eye tracking is good enough to discern what depth you're focusing at | 18:56 |
| fenn | through parallad | 18:56 |
| fenn | x | 18:56 |
| fenn | i wonder if any tiny camera modules can even focus at different depths | 18:57 |
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| kanzure | fenn: where do we uh.. clean up stuff | 19:04 |
| kanzure | i guess i have 4GB of youtube videos on there | 19:05 |
| kanzure | and lots of peepcode stuff | 19:05 |
| kanzure | (about 8GB) | 19:05 |
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| kanzure | guess i'll delete that | 19:07 |
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| JayDugger | Good evening, everyone. | 19:52 |
| fenn | New Meetup Group: The Bay Area Recovering Fundamentalist Support Group | 19:52 |
| JayDugger | Ha! been there, done that. | 19:54 |
| JayDugger | kanzure: another good use for 1kfriend.ly, which its extant competitors miss, would incorporate Google Voice and other voice mail systems. | 19:55 |
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| fenn | qs @ langton @ boing boing http://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/02/studying-sleep-patte.html | 20:17 |
| fenn | (boring, don't watch) | 20:18 |
| * fenn mumbles something about cad files... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX09WnGU6ZY&feature=player_embedded#at=51 | 20:33 | |
| fenn | lego printer | 20:33 |
| fenn | unsubscribing from ahs, let me know of anything interesting | 20:39 |
| kanzure | fenn: any reason for the unsubscribe other than them being all lame? | 20:51 |
| fenn | lots of things that seem like signal but end up being useless | 20:52 |
| kanzure | yeah :( | 20:52 |
| kanzure | how has that not happened yet for om? | 20:52 |
| fenn | also high traffic, and no point in sorting it into another folder that i'll never look at | 20:52 |
| fenn | i sort om into a folder that i never look at :) | 20:53 |
| kanzure | are you going to open science summit? | 20:53 |
| kanzure | http://opensciencesummit.com/ | 20:53 |
| fenn | uh, uh, probably | 20:53 |
| kanzure | or singularity summit? http://singularitysummit.com/ | 20:53 |
| kanzure | singularity summit this year looks kinda lame | 20:53 |
| fenn | you say that about everything | 20:53 |
| kanzure | have you looked at it? | 20:53 |
| kanzure | it's like.. eliezer yudkowsky, talking about intelligence augmentation | 20:54 |
| kanzure | he doesn't even like intelligence augmentation stuff | 20:54 |
| kanzure | insert more complaining here | 20:54 |
| fenn | then why is he talking about it? | 20:54 |
| kanzure | :( | 20:55 |
| kanzure | because it's a cult? | 20:55 |
| fenn | weird list of 'featured speakers' | 20:55 |
| fenn | i've only heard of kurzweil and mann | 20:55 |
| fenn | "President & Founder, James Randi Educational Foundation" OH OF COURSE | 20:56 |
| kanzure | heh | 20:56 |
| kanzure | President & Founder & Director, The Bryan Bishop Foundation | 20:56 |
| kanzure | i know 'michael vassar' (bottom right) on that list | 20:56 |
| kanzure | he goes around trying to get money for siai | 20:57 |
| fenn | i've heard of david hanson | 20:57 |
| kanzure | are you sure you're not thinking of robin hanson? | 20:58 |
| fenn | yeah | 20:58 |
| kanzure | (robin was eli's cohort in lesswrong/overcomingbias) | 20:58 |
| fenn | he did the philip dick severed head | 20:58 |
| fenn | http://www.pkdandroid.org/ | 20:59 |
| kanzure | huh | 21:00 |
| fenn | "fedex institute of technology"? | 21:00 |
| kanzure | also, ray kurzweil is hiring some people to do data entry work | 21:01 |
| kanzure | for his kurzweilai.net blog | 21:01 |
| kanzure | in case anyone in here wants to suck up to him or something | 21:01 |
| fenn | data entry? like blog aggregating? | 21:02 |
| kanzure | yeah apparently he doesn't know about rss feeds | 21:03 |
| kanzure | so he hires humans to copy and paste links from other articles on the net | 21:03 |
| kanzure | *links to | 21:03 |
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| * fenn wouldnt call that data entry | 21:07 | |
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| fenn | "Tutor Me Elmo" sounds like a bad sex toy | 21:11 |
| fenn | well there's some neat stuff on here http://andrewmolney.name/ | 21:13 |
| fenn | unfortunately his idea of "tutoring" is a talking head | 21:16 |
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| fenn | https://umdrive.memphis.edu/aolney/public/projects/bass/asr_billybass_divx.avi | 21:19 |
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| fenn | the fish is much cuter than the 3d heads | 21:28 |
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| splicer | kanzure: James Randi is very well known in skeptic circles. He is somewhat regarded as one of the founders of the field. That's why it's funny that his name is next o kurzweils. | 21:30 |
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