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| fenn | fun http://azarask.in/projects/algorithm-ink/#8371e257 | 00:12 |
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| QuantumG | http://www.transport.caltech.edu/~shane/papers/ross-asteroid-mining-2001.pdf | 00:13 |
| QuantumG | best paper I've found on the subject.. pulls together all the Sonter papers and a few others. | 00:13 |
| fenn | App switching can be be modeled with a Markov model. Why not crunch the numbers in real-time and use the output of the Markov model to determine to which app you are most likely to switch? | 00:35 |
| fenn | brilliant | 00:35 |
| fenn | the old alt-tab alt-tab-tab alt-tab-tab no dammit alt-tab-tab-tab-tab problem | 00:37 |
| fenn | pyscript: http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/making-javascript-syntax-not-suck/# | 00:45 |
| fenn | probably a poor name choice, but meh, i like the idea | 00:46 |
| QuantumG | deliberately abandoning C-like syntax | 00:47 |
| QuantumG | yup, that dog'll hunt. | 00:47 |
| fenn | i didn't get that reference | 00:47 |
| QuantumG | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=that%20dog%20don%27t%20hunt | 00:48 |
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| fenn | nice, TED has all of their talks listed in a nice format now: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?utm_campaign=ted&hl=en&utm_medium=on.ted.com-twitter&utm_source=blog.ted.com&key=0AsKzpC8gYBmTcGpHbFlILThBSzhmZkRhNm8yYllsWGc&utm_content=site-basic#gid=0 | 01:18 |
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| fenn | gah. jef poskanzer appears randomly again | 01:32 |
| fenn | "a wild jef poskanzer has appeared!" "I choose you, bloxy!" | 01:33 |
| QuantumG | "If everything seems to be going well, you obviously overlooked something." - Murphy's lesser known law. | 01:36 |
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| * fenn mumbles something about .co domain names | 02:09 | |
| fenn | the more i learn about jef poskanzer the more possible contexts arise | 02:54 |
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| fenn | maybe the universe is running out of computational resources and is just compressing away all the nonessential NPC's | 02:56 |
| fenn | david leadbeater, daniel quinlan, fenchurch | 02:56 |
| phryk | NPC's? | 02:59 |
| fenn | oh sorry | 03:00 |
| fenn | stalk: david leadbeater, daniel quinlan, fenchurch | 03:00 |
| fenn | non player character, and also, appropriately, non-polynomial complete (computational complexity classification) | 03:01 |
| phryk | isn't everyone or -thing in the universe a player? | 03:02 |
| fenn | http://acme.com/jef/netgems/l_organa.html | 03:09 |
| fenn | phryk: that is up for debate, but I may have strayed too far into philosophy already | 03:09 |
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| phryk | nkay^^ | 03:13 |
| phryk | mornin, splicer | 03:14 |
| phryk | fenn: that's like the best scam ever^^ | 03:17 |
| fenn | hard to believe this is all of the html tags: http://acme.com/html_samples.html#index | 03:18 |
| fenn | its missing <blink> but i'm not sure that was ever official anyway | 03:18 |
| fenn | <script> and <style> came later | 03:20 |
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| splicer | hi phryk | 03:59 |
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| splicer | A long time ago a some girl made a page in pagemaker and asked me why it looked so bad. It looked bad because pm had added the <blink> tag for no apparent reason. <blink> was ignored by ie but honored by Netscape... bit of sabotage from ms there. | 04:09 |
| Utopiah | hmmm anybody done some SQLite queries with PHP? | 04:17 |
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| phryk | Nope, started getting into sqlite + python yesterday, though... | 04:49 |
| phryk | What do you need to know, Utopiah? | 04:50 |
| Utopiah | dunno yet, I guess if I just connect to the DB then throw the queries I had before it should work well, was just curious | 04:51 |
| Utopiah | phryk: I often just say what Im doing, nerd stuff, to have feedback/critics/suggestions when the channel is quiet as it's a generalist nerd community | 04:54 |
| phryk | aah ;P | 04:54 |
| phryk | well the connect function is applied to a file... also i don't know how to password protect them... | 04:55 |
| Utopiah | often by the time I ask the question I have the answer but... who knowns, could be intersting for others too (hopefuly) | 04:55 |
| phryk | but apart from that its pretty much just simple sql | 04:55 |
| Utopiah | no pass on Firefox ones | 04:55 |
| phryk | firefox queries? O_o | 04:55 |
| Utopiah | cf http://fabien.benetou.fr/Events/DrumbeatParis?action=print#VisitedLinks | 04:56 |
| phryk | even if firefox uses sqlite as appdb, you wouldn't be able to access that stuff from php... | 04:56 |
| fenn | Utopiah: would be cool to make an animated version of like http://acme.com/bart/ | 04:58 |
| fenn | Utopiah: would be cool to make an animated version of http://acme.com/metro/ like http://acme.com/bart/ | 04:59 |
| Utopiah | (wow Im totally in the wrong channel, wth) | 04:59 |
| Utopiah | sorry... | 04:59 |
| phryk | :D | 04:59 |
| Utopiah | well anyway, could be helpfl to others too, point is to track websites you visited during a conference | 05:00 |
| phryk | I think that guy accessed the ff-db locally... So you won't be able to do this from remote places... at least not as long as you don't figure out how to read that file (some js-hack could be possible) | 05:00 |
| Utopiah | that guy is me so yes it's local | 05:00 |
| phryk | Ah okay ;P | 05:00 |
| fenn | why are you using php? | 05:01 |
| Utopiah | because the wiki Im using uses PHP | 05:01 |
| Utopiah | (aka #pmwiki ) | 05:01 |
| Utopiah | phryk: I could access it remotly via sshfs but I don't really need that (yet) | 05:02 |
| fenn | weird. did i link to yoyodyne? | 05:02 |
| phryk | Okay that | 05:02 |
| phryk | I misunderstood your purpose | 05:02 |
| phryk | I thought you wanted to access the pages your visitors have been to | 05:02 |
| phryk | (which of course is utterly evil) | 05:03 |
| Utopiah | that's Google and the NSA job :P | 05:03 |
| fenn | Utopiah: look at the demo graphics http://acme.com/java/software/Acme.Psg.html | 05:03 |
| Utopiah | fenn: for online rendering Im more interesting in Processing.JS now | 05:03 |
| phryk | I need to be a superstar... | 05:04 |
| Utopiah | phryk: but yes Im actually considering doing a social version of that so that participants to the conf. can share visited links collaboratively but... poses a provacy issue | 05:05 |
| fenn | you need to fix your ellipses | 05:05 |
| Utopiah | more precisly I need to re-do everything :D | 05:05 |
| phryk | Utopiah: I don't care. I just need enough fans. | 05:05 |
| Utopiah | ? | 05:05 |
| phryk | Fawking hot in here... | 05:05 |
| fenn | wow i actually pluralized that correctly | 05:05 |
| fenn | ... | 05:06 |
| phryk | Utopiah: I am an Idiot ;P | 05:06 |
| fenn | i sort of want to start a raging anti-privacy movement | 05:07 |
| Utopiah | :| | 05:07 |
| fenn | just start fucking logging and publishing everything i possibly can | 05:07 |
| Utopiah | fenn: btw for the animated metro thing, I wanted to have daily distribution per line but I dont think they (RATP.fr) publish this kind of data | 05:08 |
| fenn | they don't have scheduled arrival times? | 05:08 |
| Utopiah | the distribution of travellers over time, not of trains | 05:09 |
| Utopiah | as I wouldn't mind loosing 5min on a long traject to avoid very busy lines | 05:09 |
| Utopiah | (especially when it's hot like... now) | 05:10 |
| fenn | hm i should probably try to sleep | 05:11 |
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| Utopiah | also to focus back on the H+ of #hplusroadmap (since I messed up my channels in the first place...) I started http://aft.benetou.fr/ for the French H+ association but the "chef" there is damn adminstrative and slow so... we have one editor, me | 05:11 |
| Utopiah | not sure how this will evolve here (Paris) | 05:12 |
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| fenn | http://www.space-time.info/starlab/starlab.mov | 05:33 |
| fenn | http://web.archive.org/web/20010926174641/http://starlab.org/ | 05:35 |
| fenn | fibercomputing? | 05:35 |
| fenn | oh, wearables, not math | 05:36 |
| fenn | i'm wondering what was at immunenetworks.com | 05:41 |
| fenn | "artificial immune systems" ... /me kickc archive.org | 05:42 |
| fenn | damn computers | 05:42 |
| fenn | how come i haven't heard of starlab? | 05:43 |
| fenn | hmm apparently http://starlab.es/ is still going | 05:45 |
| fenn | they turned it down a couple notches though | 05:46 |
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| kanzure | https://science.slashdot.org/story/10/07/02/0250240/Consumer-Guide-To-Stem-Cell-Clinics | 06:49 |
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| kanzure | http://www.foresight-platform.eu/ "The ultimate purpose of EFP is to better exploit foresight as a resource to support policy-making. The knowledge hub will be used in a series of national and European policy workshops, geared towards major future challenges to Europe." | 07:51 |
| kanzure | that was from our friend miriam leis | 07:51 |
| kanzure | http://www.projectsinmetal.com/ the material, not the music | 07:53 |
| kanzure | looks thorough: http://www.projectsinmetal.com/new_project_plans_for_a_lathe_tailstock_turret/ | 07:53 |
| kanzure | i saw this on the front page of singularityhub.com: http://singularityhub.com/2010/06/15/is-there-a-digital-afterlife/ | 07:59 |
| kanzure | "is there a digital afterlife" haw haw | 07:59 |
| uniqanomaly__ | lmao, religion adapted to new tech | 08:01 |
| uniqanomaly__ | optimalisation in utilisation of the universe, thats it | 08:03 |
| kanzure | Recognition, Neutralization, and Clearance of Target Peptides in the Bloodstream of Living Mice by Molecularly Imprinted Polymer Nanoparticles: A Plastic Antibody http://designfiles.org/papers/Recognition,%20Neutralization,%20and%20Clearance%20of%20Target%20Peptides%20in%20the%20Bloodstream%20of%20Living%20Mice%20by%20Molecularly%20Imprinted%20Polymer%20Nanoparticles:%20A%20Plastic%20Antibody.pdf | 08:03 |
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| kanzure | http://superheroesanonymous.com/ too bad this isn't a front for transhumanism | 08:34 |
| uniqanomaly_ | at first I thought it's something like alcoholics anonymous, sth about superheroes with mind destroyed by this wicked world LMAO | 08:42 |
| kanzure | http://reallifesuperheroes.org/wiki/index.php?title=Crimson_Fist | 08:46 |
| pmetzger | Have people been watching kick ass or something? | 08:52 |
| kanzure | http://www.reallifesuperheroes.org/rlsh-roster | 08:53 |
| kanzure | no this has been going on for a while, i think | 08:53 |
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| kanzure | guy who does harkopen: http://madaerodog.com/work | 09:07 |
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| kanzure | diybio newbie: http://openwetware.org/wiki/User:Seng_Loong_Chan | 10:11 |
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| kanzure | http://mindbroker.de/ keeps showing up in my singularityu.org searches | 10:40 |
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| kanzure | http://www.bumc.bu.edu/centenarian/ new england centenarian study | 13:46 |
| kanzure | 'Genetic Signatures of Exceptional Longevity in Humans ' | 13:46 |
| kanzure | pdf: http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/rapidpdf/science.1190532v1.pdf?ijkey=su1cvScg1VYF6&keytype=ref&siteid=sci | 13:47 |
| kanzure | http://www.humanpl.us/ someone jumped on my domain hack | 13:50 |
| kanzure | http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-05/blue-light-smells-bananas-modified-fruit-flies 'German scientists have been able to re-wire fruit fly larvae to perceive blue light as smelling like bananas' | 13:51 |
| pmetzger | Is humanmin.us available? | 13:52 |
| kanzure | whois says yes | 13:54 |
| kanzure | http://extropism.com/ is hank hyena's blog.. has his transcript up from his talk at hplus summit on world stats for transhumanie stuff | 13:55 |
| kanzure | humanitypl.us is also available | 13:55 |
| pmetzger | I think clearly entropism is the wave of the future. | 13:55 |
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| kanzure | has anyone tried the diygenomics iphone app? | 15:14 |
| pmetzger | what does it do? | 15:19 |
| uniqanomaly | sequencing genome after licking touchscreen | 15:20 |
| uniqanomaly | ;) | 15:20 |
| pmetzger | that seems like a fine idea! | 15:23 |
| fenn | half of these guys could pass as supervillains, is there a supervillains-anonymous too? http://superheroesanonymous.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/timthumb.php_.jpeg | 15:35 |
| kanzure | lots of dark colors. | 15:37 |
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| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real-life_superhero | 15:41 |
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| fenn | haha "angle grinder man, cuts wheel clamps off vehicles" | 15:46 |
| fenn | the guy in the middle, "I was raped repeatedly in prison stemming from an arson charge. I spent the next five years being raped by niggers. After my release, I went on to be gay and defend the White Cause." | 15:47 |
| fenn | that's not a superhero | 15:47 |
| kanzure | you win! you foudn waldo! uh.. | 15:48 |
| fenn | ok i don't wanna be a superhero anymore | 15:49 |
| kanzure | a lot of these people don't seem super | 15:50 |
| kanzure | they just hug trees and pick up trash | 15:50 |
| kanzure | why not build a better trash picking-up system | 15:50 |
| kanzure | or fight corporate crime via spying.. and stuff. | 15:50 |
| fenn | SPIES | 15:52 |
| kanzure | "great! you picked up some trash on one city street block today. meanwhile, sergey brin just cured fucking parkinsons" | 15:52 |
| kanzure | fenn: watch out.. next thing you know Poly Polymerase will be driving past you in a two-door geo back to HQ (biocurious, of course) | 15:57 |
| fenn | which will be located conveniently outside my tent | 15:59 |
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| fenn | machine learning questions and answers http://metaoptimize.com/qa/ | 18:28 |
| kanzure | is this a stack overflow dealy? | 18:29 |
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| kanzure | fenn: i don't know which way to filter it.. should i send that to my SU contacts, or what | 18:49 |
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| fenn | nfc or i would have done it myself :\ | 19:01 |
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| JayDugger | Good evening, everyone. | 19:37 |
| ybit | oi JayDugger | 19:54 |
| kanzure | ybit: did you read the lawyertalk transcript thingy from yesterday | 20:00 |
| kanzure | this thing: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/2010-07-01_open-source-hardware_and_patent-law.html | 20:00 |
| ybit | no, i'm guessing they haven't said anything we don't already know though | 20:00 |
| ybit | kanzure: right? | 20:01 |
| kanzure | there's some interesting elaboration on core concepts | 20:01 |
| ybit | okay, i'll take a look | 20:03 |
| kanzure | i wonder if we could get around the patent litigation issue by making/selling open source hardware through the co-op, but "giving away" open source hardware upon your donation to the co-op :P | 20:06 |
| kanzure | theoretically patents allow the "property owner" to 'exclude others from making' the patented invention | 20:06 |
| QuantumG | or practicing | 20:07 |
| kanzure | or using | 20:07 |
| JayDugger | That sounds practically unenforcable. | 20:09 |
| ybit | kanzure: it seems you're going for a license similar to GNU whereas the TAPR license is similar to BSD, do what the fsck you want with i'm giving out | 20:09 |
| ybit | with +what i'm giving out | 20:10 |
| kanzure | unfortunately there's a difference between 'inventions' and copyrighted works | 20:10 |
| ybit | i saw that | 20:10 |
| QuantumG | JayDugger: flying planes in airshows was considered "practicing" the Wright's invention. | 20:10 |
| kanzure | so it doesn't work quite like BSD v. GNU | 20:10 |
| kanzure | QuantumG: did the wright brothers sue for that? | 20:11 |
| QuantumG | yeah | 20:11 |
| kanzure | holy fuck | 20:11 |
| JayDugger | Did they win? | 20:11 |
| kanzure | and these guys went down in history as heroes? | 20:11 |
| QuantumG | yeah | 20:11 |
| JayDugger | Did they continue to monopolize aviation? | 20:11 |
| QuantumG | the Wright's sued everyone | 20:11 |
| QuantumG | for everything | 20:11 |
| kanzure | did they sue the birds too? | 20:11 |
| JayDugger | Did Langley counter-sue on the basis of prior art? | 20:11 |
| QuantumG | and basically became patent trolls | 20:11 |
| QuantumG | google for it.. there's lots of writeups | 20:12 |
| ybit | i didn't know this :\ | 20:12 |
| QuantumG | in the end the NACA patent pool screwed em | 20:12 |
| JayDugger | Point taken. | 20:12 |
| QuantumG | cause, ya know, there was a war. | 20:12 |
| ybit | really? when? :) | 20:12 |
| kanzure | http://ipbiz.blogspot.com/2006/07/patent-thickets-and-wright-brothers.html | 20:12 |
| ybit | wait, aren't we still in a war? :( | 20:12 |
| kanzure | "U.S. aviation patent pool" | 20:13 |
| JayDugger | It finally didn't prevent the wide spread of aviation. | 20:13 |
| QuantumG | we're always at war with east asia | 20:13 |
| JayDugger | Eurasia! | 20:13 |
| QuantumG | hehe | 20:13 |
| JayDugger | Eastasia is our loyal ally! You duckspeak Doubleplus thoughtcrime! | 20:14 |
| kanzure | no doublespeak in here | 20:14 |
| kanzure | except when tasteful :P | 20:15 |
| QuantumG | hmm.. guy from my work is leaving to work for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitre_Corporation | 20:15 |
| JayDugger | s/doublespeak/newspeak | 20:15 |
| JayDugger | Really? | 20:15 |
| QuantumG | "to scan the homeland security vulnerabilities from the cloud" ha ha | 20:15 |
| JayDugger | $0.02 for the OT jar. | 20:15 |
| ybit | hrm, seems Edison was an ass like the wright bros. | 20:16 |
| JayDugger | That's vague...USAF "cyber-security" inanity or radar fences or do you know? | 20:16 |
| kanzure | ybit: yeah, edison was definitely an ass. that's slightly more common knowledge than the wrights being asses | 20:16 |
| kanzure | for instance, you should know that edison fucked over tesla | 20:16 |
| QuantumG | probably just developing their own techniques to find security flaws in .. stuff. | 20:17 |
| QuantumG | stealing our business no doubt | 20:17 |
| JayDugger | Oh? Do you work for Lock-Mart? | 20:17 |
| kanzure | soon your packet injection and dll hacking will be automated anyway, QuantumG | 20:17 |
| QuantumG | I automated that long ago | 20:18 |
| kanzure | hellooo metasploit-for-massively-parallel-injection-attacks | 20:18 |
| QuantumG | I think I've told this channel before that I prefer not to say where I work.. but seeing as I brought it up.. meh.. I work for Veracode. | 20:18 |
| JayDugger | My apologies. I didn't know. | 20:19 |
| AJollyLife | quantumg: dude, i know tons of people who work there | 20:19 |
| QuantumG | we scan apps for vulnerabilities.. "in the cloud" or something. | 20:19 |
| kanzure | "in the cloud" woo | 20:19 |
| kanzure | jump on board the cloudtrain | 20:19 |
| JayDugger | Buzzword bingo, anyone? | 20:19 |
| QuantumG | AJollyLife: and now you know why I don't tell people :) | 20:19 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: you should get cloudtrain.com | 20:19 |
| AJollyLife | veracode has some super sharp people there | 20:19 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: i still can't believe they called their website cluetrain.com | 20:20 |
| * ybit just spent four hours in the sun showing off diybio-like stuff | 20:23 | |
| kanzure | AJollyLife: maybe you should tell QuantumG where you work ;) | 20:23 |
| AJollyLife | im sure he could find out if he googles a bit...lol | 20:23 |
| ybit | ..weird looks abounded | 20:24 |
| ybit | </tweet> | 20:25 |
| ybit | whatever happen to katsmeow, did she set sail or something? | 20:26 |
| kanzure | quantumkat and katsmeow fought it out | 20:26 |
| kanzure | to the death | 20:26 |
| ybit | last seen May 15 | 20:27 |
| ybit | hrm, not sure what to do about licensing. just give it away i suppose.. but i guess there needs to be something like the GPL for hardware... | 20:30 |
| kanzure | but GPL is for copyright. | 20:31 |
| ybit | "Despite superficial similarities to software licenses, most hardware licenses are fundamentally different: by nature, they typically rely more heavily on patent law than on copyright law." | 20:31 |
| kanzure | the problem is that u.s. patent law is based on this concept of /excluding others' | 20:32 |
| kanzure | excluding others | 20:32 |
| kanzure | and allowing one person to dictate who he wants to exclude | 20:32 |
| kanzure | that's fine and all.. just avoid those things as best you can (you can't change that, not at first) | 20:32 |
| kanzure | but then the problem is that you have no way to 'license a right' as it were | 20:32 |
| kanzure | since you don't necessarily have a patent in the first place | 20:32 |
| ybit | i haven't payed any attention to the licensing issues, what's wrong with TAPR? | 20:33 |
| * ybit reads http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TAPR_Open_Hardware_License | 20:34 | |
| kanzure | wtf they have a picture of ESR saying "Lots of problems" | 20:35 |
| kanzure | hahah | 20:35 |
| kanzure | TAPR doesn't seem to be based on legal reality. | 20:37 |
| ybit | kanzure: can you explain that last sentence? that picture and subtitle are priceless :) | 20:42 |
| ybit | s/are/is | 20:42 |
| kanzure | there is no copyright when it comes to inventions.. there might be for a design file, but it's not a 'copyright' according to us law when you're talking about manufacturing and hardware | 20:43 |
| kanzure | the design file might be under a copyright, but patent law trumps copyright law, etc. | 20:43 |
| kanzure | fenn: i found 'chris phoenix' (from 'center for responsible nanotechnology') on okcupid.. o.o | 20:48 |
| AJollyLife | okc has lots of people on it | 20:51 |
| kanzure | AJollyLife: i didn't want to pay for their upgraded version, so i wrote a scraper | 20:52 |
| kanzure | http://designfiles.org/~bryan/okcupid/match.data | 20:52 |
| AJollyLife | what does their upgraded version get you anyways? | 20:52 |
| kanzure | you can set the personality traits that you want to get | 20:52 |
| AJollyLife | yeah, that might be useful if there was a high enough hit count around here for it to matter (for me anyways) | 20:54 |
| AJollyLife | dammit, I really miss cities :( | 20:55 |
| ybit | speaking of okcupid, i'm 'good looking' whatever that means | 21:01 |
| ybit | anyone else get that email from okcupid? | 21:01 |
| kanzure | it means i clicked on you too many times, sorry | 21:01 |
| ybit | well, there goes the confidence then :P | 21:03 |
| ybit | "We are very pleased to report that you are in the top half of OkCupid's most attractive users. The scales recently tipped in your favor, and we thought you'd like to know." | 21:04 |
| AJollyLife | ohh, did you do that picture rating thing? | 21:04 |
| ybit | wonder if they send a similar email if you're in the lower half | 21:04 |
| QuantumG | doesn't that mean they're just informing you that another good looking person just left the dating pool? | 21:05 |
| ybit | AJollyLife: yeah | 21:05 |
| ybit | but i think it means something like i have more clickthroughs or something | 21:06 |
| ybit | perhaps QuantumG :) | 21:06 |
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| kanzure | hi mheld | 21:42 |
| mheld | hey kanzure | 21:46 |
| fenn | 100kbit video is actually not as bad as i expected | 22:03 |
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| fenn | wtf.. each chrome tab uses 290MB minimum | 22:35 |
| bkero | Err | 22:43 |
| bkero | I think you mean each chrome tab uses 290 megs of shared memory | 22:43 |
| fenn | yeah i think you're right | 22:46 |
| fenn | sort of confused why i'm knee deep in swap then | 22:46 |
| bkero | Run top, then press 'F', then 'n', then <Enter> | 22:48 |
| bkero | That will sort by RAM usage, see what's at top | 22:48 |
| fenn | 30370 fenn 20 0 185m 111m 4384 S 0 11.2 3:57.61 geeqie | 22:49 |
| fenn | 24597 fenn 20 0 291m 44m 15m S 0 4.5 70:12.60 chrome | 22:49 |
| fenn | 11.2+4.5 = 15.7% accounted for | 22:50 |
| jrayhawk | hahaha cloudtrain | 22:53 |
| bkero | What's geeqie? | 22:57 |
| fenn | image browser.. apparently gqview was deprecated and they swapped in geeqie with some kind of compatability mode | 22:58 |
| bkero | Try comix | 22:58 |
| bkero | or feh | 22:59 |
| bkero | I <3 feh | 22:59 |
| fenn | i dont like feh | 22:59 |
| fenn | geeqie is ok, it just loads a little slower than gqview did | 22:59 |
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| fenn | zipcar for apartments, from a dojo member http://www.livenomadic.com/ | 23:39 |
| fenn | i dont really get the '2 weeks until you lose priority' thing though | 23:39 |
| Utopiah | what's the difference with CouchSurfing? | 23:39 |
| Utopiah | sounds like a paint of luxury over CS | 23:40 |
| Utopiah | I wonder if the routing can work well enough to have low inoccupancy and keep this financially ok | 23:41 |
| Utopiah | they should talk to Amazon, the "rent any kind of wasted stuff" company ;) | 23:41 |
| fenn | couchsurfing is all free and from what i understand has a lot of communications overhead | 23:45 |
| Utopiah | aka social | 23:45 |
| fenn | i havent looked into couch surfing that much | 23:46 |
| Utopiah | it's definitly more "hippie oriented", beard is optional but usually appreciated | 23:46 |
| fenn | wut | 23:50 |
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