2010-07-25.log

--- Log opened Sun Jul 25 00:00:18 2010
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kanzurehi EmbraceUnity_ 15:55
kanzure"Trailer for the new game BioHack, the synthetic biology puzzle game. Will15:55
kanzurebe available August 2010 on the Xbox LIVE Marketplace."15:55
kanzurehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYiZIuH08-415:55
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EmbraceUnity_hi16:08
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mheldstill trolling the intarwebs for interesting papers16:20
mheldany thoughts?16:20
mheldmaybe biologically inspired AI16:20
mheldnon-von neumann architecture16:20
EmbraceUnity_i heard an interesting idea recently, don't know how applicable it is16:24
EmbraceUnity_basically, you have an AI that can sense which areas of its programming need work, and then it automatically sends out job posts to humans to fix up whatever is needed16:24
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mheldif y'all were curious -> http://public.me.com/mheld a repo of my PDFs17:36
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kanzuremheld: likewise: http://designfiles.org/papers/17:40
kanzureyour public.me.com thing complains about browsers.. why not just use a file listing?17:40
mheldbecause I kill computers too often17:41
kanzurewould you like to host the files on designfiles.org?17:41
mheldI just lost 10 gigs of PDFs a few weeks ago17:41
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mheldI like the fact that I have everything already on my machine17:42
mheldbut feel free to grab my dir17:42
mheldif there was like, a opensource dropbox implementation, that'd be awesome17:42
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kanzureso my family has been giving me shit about open source software development20:59
kanzurethey think i'm an idiot for even associating myself with the concept20:59
afarris01why?21:00
afarris01thats odd21:00
fennyou should be making more iphone games21:00
kanzureafarris01: because "intellectual property" is super-well-engrained into everyone's head21:00
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jrayhawks/games/fart apps21:00
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fennkanzure: i pestered luke nosek for an hour or so this weekend, we were bouncing around ideas about an electric mach 3 high altitude plane21:01
fenni was trying to convince him to ignore the idea and switch to rotovator development, but he persisted, so i was like 'meh, ok how about thermophotovoltaics and IR lasers21:01
fennanyway he's the president of halcyon molecular, so there.21:02
fennso now you can stop asking 'have you talked with the halcyon molecular guys yet'21:02
jrayhawkperhaps you should point them at literature on the economic concepts of rivalry and excludability and then ask them if they think they should own the air they exhale21:02
jrayhawkMan, privatized air would be awesome. I wonder if Rand ever thought of that.21:03
fennwhich rand? the corporation or the personality21:04
jrayhawkWell, either, I guess, but the personality is a lot funnier.21:04
fennephemerisle was a blast, it sort of felt like a page out of the 'seasteading simulation role playing game' turned real21:05
jrayhawkDurability, marginal cost, game theory, and decision theory are also good topics to introduce them to.21:05
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fenni have added 'live on a scratch-built catamaran' to my list of possible life paths21:05
fennluke also is very into sleep tracking and paying attention to how blue light exposure affects your mood, and "napping pods" which I had just started thinking about a month ago21:08
Ian_Daniherfenn: sleep tracking, napping pods, you have my attention.21:08
jrayhawkif you wish to build a catamaran from scratch, first you must invent the universe21:08
fenn06/13/201021:09
fennIan_Daniher: sorry, i'm kinda busy and tired to go into a lot of detail, shouldnt really be on irc at all atm... anyway the basic idea is:21:11
fennit's more efficient to heat/cool/soundproof/squishify the walls of a small volume, so what's the minimum volume needed for comfortable sleeping activities? i arrived at 4x4x8 foot parallellepiped21:12
fennwhich conveniently is made from 5 4x8 sheets of each layer of material21:12
fennanyway luke says he had the best sleep ever in this japanese sleep pod that is temperature controlled and soundproofed and has a white noise generator. also google has some supposedly21:14
fennanyone know if it's possible to convert thrust (newtons, flying in air) into watts, if you have all the necessary parameters?21:15
fenn(and how do i do it?)21:15
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Ian_Daniherfenn: that falls into the "BAMF" category21:42
Ian_Daniherfenn: which conveiniently overlaps with things I'm interested in making happen21:43
Ian_Daniherfenn: keep me posted & let's chat about it more tomorrow. my interest in this specifically relates towards facillitating polyphasic sleep in the modern world.21:43
kanzurehrm can someone give me some extra motivation to work on csg.py (et al.)?21:54
kanzure"ooh"s and "wow"s would be helpful and examples21:55
ybitwtf21:58
ybit^ maybe that will help you21:58
Ian_Daniherkanzure: csg.py?21:58
kanzurewell, actually, step.py- it's just a little pythonl ibrary for exporting STEP files22:04
kanzure*python library22:04
kanzureto be honest it's not something that should be used by a mortal human being, i'm going to have to spend some time writing a wrapper around it22:05
kanzurethe wrapper will handle things like the initiliazation of the context units and length measurements22:05
kanzureand hopefully do "evaluation" on the geometry (for operations)22:05
kanzurepresumably easier to use than 22:06
kanzurehttp://designfiles.org/lab/opencascade/Level2API.py22:06
kanzuremaybe it would feel like this? http://designfiles.org/~bryan/csg.py22:07
kanzurefenn: parameterized bolts and washers http://brlcad.org/wiki/Hex22:09
kanzurehm i wonder why they used BRLCAD for this 22:10
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kanzurehttp://brlcad.org/wiki/Projecto_VeRDE22:10
kanzureespecially since it was just visualization22:10
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fennsurvivability analysis22:20
fennspacecraft debris is pretty much like being shot at22:20
fennor maybe they just used it because it was there22:28
genehackerchinese shot another one?22:33
kanzurefenn: is there any way i an convince you to dump some text on http://diyhpl.us/wiki/cadfaq ?22:37
kanzure*anyway i can convince you to22:37
ybit12:40am.. napping pods sounds wonderful right about now.. tootles everyone22:40
kanzurei primarily wanted to write down my answers to "why not use blender for cad" and "why not just turn blender into a cad kernel" instead of repeating them22:40
ybitblender is nothing like solidworks.. which i've been having to use a lot lately... it would take quite a bit of work to make blender similar22:41
kanzureultimately they are right- with enough consideration and effort you can turn any piece of software into anything else22:41
kanzurejust.. it's a lot of effort ;)22:41
ybitindeed22:42
ybitthere's something to toss money @ :)22:43
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fenni met james hogan today...23:25
fenn(thought that was weird)23:25
kanzurei thought he died23:39
kanzureoh wait, this is the patri friedman james hogan right?23:39
fennya23:44
fennhuh, halfway decent concept art http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2115247821/the-relentless-artstead-boat-project?pos=123:54
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