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| jmil | jrayhawk: problem | 00:24 |
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| jmil | Delta compression using up to 2 threads. | 00:24 |
| jmil | Compressing objects: 100% (2/2), done. | 00:24 |
| jmil | Writing objects: 100% (3/3), 348 bytes, done. | 00:24 |
| jmil | Total 3 (delta 0), reused 0 (delta 0) | 00:24 |
| jmil | error: insufficient permission for adding an object to repository database ./objects | 00:24 |
| jmil | fatal: failed to write object | 00:24 |
| jmil | error: unpack failed: unpack-objects abnormal exit | 00:24 |
| jmil | To git+ssh://jmil@diyhpl.us/srv/git/reprap | 00:24 |
| jmil | ! [remote rejected] master -> master (n/a (unpacker error)) | 00:24 |
| jmil | error: failed to push some refs to 'git+ssh://jmil@diyhpl.us/srv/git/reprap' | 00:24 |
| jmil | oh i think i forgot to add to reprap.git acct | 00:25 |
| jmil | nevermind jrayhawk it works now | 00:26 |
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| jmil | jrayhawk: problem: | 00:28 |
| jmil | git push origin master | 00:28 |
| jmil | To /srv/git/reprap.git | 00:28 |
| jmil | ! [rejected] master -> master (non-fast-forward) | 00:28 |
| jmil | error: failed to push some refs to '/srv/git/reprap.git' | 00:28 |
| jmil | jrayhawk: u there? | 00:31 |
| jmil | halp pls | 00:31 |
| epitron | pull first | 00:33 |
| epitron | you're behind | 00:33 |
| epitron | you might have to do a merge commit if there's a conflict | 00:33 |
| jmil | naw that's not it | 00:38 |
| jmil | im trying to force push | 00:39 |
| jmil | got it figured out though jrayhawk | 00:39 |
| jmil | i did a --force and that eventually updated cgit, had to wait for it though | 00:40 |
| jrayhawk | oh, I guess ikiwiki's going to be unhappy about some of that. I'll go turn that off. | 00:46 |
| jmil | why, what does ikiwiki change when you do a force? | 00:46 |
| jrayhawk | Ikiwiki maintains its own checkout so it can publish the contents, and attempts to perform a merge by default. | 00:47 |
| jmil | oh actually it was git push --mirror origin | 00:47 |
| jrayhawk | What is it with you and mirror? | 00:47 |
| jmil | jrayhawk: oh. ya that won't work yet. what is the purpose of the wiki? | 00:48 |
| jmil | lol. force didn't reset anything of course. mirror is the only way to do that, naturally | 00:48 |
| jmil | try it yourself | 00:48 |
| jmil | i tried it your way first ;) | 00:49 |
| jmil | doesn't work | 00:49 |
| jrayhawk | < jrayhawk> Normally there's a post-update hook that checks the log for updated files and renders and/or publishes those to a directory tree. | 00:49 |
| jrayhawk | < jrayhawk> Optionally, there is also a web interface for editing the contents of the tree and commiting them back to the git repository. | 00:49 |
| jrayhawk | < jrayhawk> There are some compelling features within Ikiwiki for managing and aggregating data stored within markdown files for whatever purposes you would like; it's often used for blogging and bug tracking. | 00:50 |
| jmil | i wasn't learned enough to understand that way back when | 00:50 |
| jmil | == earlier today | 00:50 |
| jmil | now it's starting to make sense, somewhat | 00:50 |
| jmil | do you now also see why i have to mirror instead of force in order to delete a commit in reprap.git? | 00:51 |
| jrayhawk | Yeah, git and ikiwiki don't really have learning 'curves' | 00:51 |
| jrayhawk | Just a second, cloning your repo takes a bit. | 00:52 |
| jmil | i did echo "hello" > hello.txt | 00:52 |
| jmil | git add . | 00:52 |
| jmil | git commit -a -m "adding hello.txt" | 00:52 |
| jmil | git push | 00:52 |
| jmil | git reset --hard HEAD~ | 00:53 |
| jmil | git push --force origin master | 00:53 |
| jmil | does not delete the hello.txt commit from origin | 00:53 |
| jmil | instead you then do | 00:53 |
| jmil | git push --mirror origin | 00:53 |
| jmil | and that works | 00:53 |
| jmil | which you see eventually when cgit updates | 00:53 |
| jrayhawk | Force worked for me. | 00:56 |
| jrayhawk | Most likely you saw an ikiwiki error, which didn't actually keep the commit from working. | 00:56 |
| jrayhawk | err the ref from getting updated. | 00:57 |
| jrayhawk | Oh, actually, it was worse than that | 00:57 |
| jrayhawk | ikiwiki performed the merge, then noticed it was ahead and pushed back into the repo | 00:57 |
| jrayhawk | Anywho, ikiwiki is off, now, sorry. | 00:57 |
| jrayhawk | I don't really know if Bryan really wanted it for you in the first place. | 00:57 |
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| jmil | ok. he was marketing it as a feature of this server to me and adrian, but it may not be the best thing right now | 00:59 |
| jrayhawk | Yeah, apparently. | 00:59 |
| jmil | ok so those are ikiwiki errors. they are very strange | 00:59 |
| jmil | "skipping bad filename...." etc etc | 01:00 |
| jmil | ? | 01:00 |
| jrayhawk | Yeah. | 01:00 |
| jmil | oh good. i thought it was just debian :) | 01:00 |
| jrayhawk | Ikiwiki is a little paranoid about what it takes due to its attempt at compatability with a bunch of different systems. | 01:01 |
| jmil | gotcha. ok, well i'm going afk for the night, mostly | 01:01 |
| jmil | they mostly go afk at night.... mostly.... | 01:01 |
| jmil | lol | 01:01 |
| jmil | ya, i need some sleep if you can't tell | 01:01 |
| jrayhawk | GAME OVER MAN GAME OVER | 01:02 |
| jmil | lmao | 01:02 |
| Utopiah | (somehow IRC does have sound ;) | 01:02 |
| jmil | thanks for a successful night hacking hplus plus reprap | 01:02 |
| jrayhawk | So long as we exit the day smarter than we entered it. | 01:03 |
| jmil | lol | 01:03 |
| jmil | if only git was in english | 01:04 |
| jmil | i think we need gitplus | 01:04 |
| jrayhawk | eventually you start speaking gitese in real life and people start looking at you funny :( | 01:04 |
| jmil | oops, foot in mouth. git reset --hard HEAD~ | 01:04 |
| jmil | lol | 01:04 |
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| jrayhawk | jmil: I added ssh key management to the pinyshell users: readkeys and writekeys | 01:59 |
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| kanzure | jmil: i was not marketing ikiwiki as a feature to you and adrian at all, i just casually mentioned it | 03:11 |
| kanzure | i have yet to tell adrian about skdb | 03:11 |
| kanzure | why did jmil quit | 03:12 |
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| kanzure | hi jmil | 09:33 |
| jmil | yo yo ma | 09:34 |
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| kanzure | hi thesnark | 09:39 |
| thesnark | kanzure you there? | 09:39 |
| kanzure | yes | 09:39 |
| kanzure | sup? | 09:39 |
| thesnark | designfiles.org | 09:39 |
| thesnark | appears not to be...alive | 09:39 |
| drazak | kanzure: still interested in a digital lab notebook kept by sensors in a room? | 09:40 |
| kanzure | thesnark: yeah, tell me about it :( there's a whole story about what's going on there now | 09:40 |
| kanzure | thesnark: but to keep it simple, you shouldn't assume that it will ever be back | 09:40 |
| kanzure | and if it is going to be back, it will be in the first quarter of 2011 | 09:40 |
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| thesnark | fffuu....I'm developing something and forgot to turn my server at home on before I left this morning...do you think you could give me the IP so I could have shell access? | 09:41 |
| * thesnark needs git, vim, python2.6 | 09:41 | |
| kanzure | no, it's dead | 09:41 |
| thesnark | fuck | 09:41 |
| kanzure | but i can give you another shell | 09:41 |
| kanzure | pm me a username and password | 09:41 |
| thesnark | that would be amazing | 09:41 |
| thesnark | k | 09:41 |
| thesnark | Thank you so much | 09:42 |
| thesnark | What have you been working on lately? | 09:43 |
| jmil | kanzure jrayhawk can we get the cgit interface to update instantaneously? | 09:43 |
| jmil | https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/reprap/ | 09:43 |
| jmil | its not showing the commit from 5 min ago | 09:43 |
| jmil | but if i ssh in i see it | 09:43 |
| jmil | now it shows up | 09:46 |
| jmil | a bit too slow for my taste tho, and will probably aggravate reprap devs | 09:46 |
| drazak | kanzure: have people talked about IR sensor systems for lab-tracking? | 09:46 |
| kanzure | drazak: for growth media? | 09:48 |
| kanzure | jmil: dunno why there's a lag (it might be caching stuff?) but i'll look into it in a few min | 09:48 |
| thesnark | heybryan is also down? | 09:49 |
| jmil | ya i'm looking now too. it defiinitely has the capability to cache generated html, i'm looking at the cgit docs now | 09:49 |
| kanzure | thesnark: yes :( | 09:49 |
| drazak | kanzure: no, for tracking glassware and other stuff | 09:49 |
| kanzure | drazak: someone mentioned it on diybio before but not in a serious "hey i'm going to start doing this" way | 09:49 |
| kanzure | drazak: are you still working in that lab? | 09:49 |
| thesnark | Time to go off to a lab. Thanks again kanzure, it is truly appreciated. We'll catch up soon. | 09:50 |
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| kanzure | because if you could convince them to start rfid tagging their chemical containers, i'd die and go to heaven to work on the software for that | 09:50 |
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| jmil | kanzure: let's do it in our lab | 09:51 |
| kanzure | "our"? | 09:51 |
| kanzure | huh? | 09:52 |
| jmil | we should do it the makerbot way, where they just do qr codes for everything | 09:52 |
| jmil | well it's not my lab, but my advisor's | 09:52 |
| kanzure | how is that the makerbot way? | 09:52 |
| kanzure | qr codes are a step up, sure | 09:52 |
| jmil | that's how they do all their inventory management at makerbot, and they store it all on thingiverse.com | 09:52 |
| kanzure | jmil: one of my "on the shelf" projects is a retrosynthesis engine ("given these chemicals in my inventory, and given this chemical target, how can i get from there to here") and then use SKDB to also help with the equipment or designing a microfluidic circuit for the synthesis | 09:53 |
| jmil | every item has a qr code on the box, when they retrieve it they use iphone app to look up qr code and go to the webpage and update inventory amounts | 09:53 |
| jmil | additionally, it works the other way around, where items they are building are composed of multiple smaller items, so it auto-generates a shopping list for their staff to wander around the shelves and find the things that make up what they are shipping | 09:53 |
| jmil | extrememly efficient | 09:53 |
| kanzure | yep.. nothing new there | 09:54 |
| jmil | kanzure: now you're really smoking some crack | 09:54 |
| jmil | but i like the idea | 09:54 |
| kanzure | have you looked at http://github.com/kanzure/skdb yet? | 09:54 |
| jmil | ya i can't make sense of it | 09:54 |
| kanzure | i guess designfiles.org is dead for now so i can't expect you to know about it | 09:54 |
| jmil | i will clone the repo | 09:54 |
| kanzure | it won't work unless you want to spend a ridiculous amount of time installing opencascade | 09:54 |
| kanzure | it's one of the reasons i'm trying to avoid opencascade in my projects :P | 09:55 |
| kanzure | but if you want a "popsci" article on it, try this? | 09:55 |
| kanzure | http://hplusmagazine.com/articles/toys-tools/hackerspace-your-garage-downloading-diy-hardware-over-web | 09:55 |
| kanzure | it's poorly written but it might get the concept across | 09:55 |
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| kanzure | "I'm interested in how it is that you find the time to do so much work on DIYbio. I have only about one day a week to spend on things that interest me." | 10:02 |
| kanzure | "Somehow you've gotten funding and become able to spend all your time on interesting things, even without having an advanced degree or a product?" | 10:02 |
| kanzure | "If so, I'd really like to know how you did it." | 10:02 |
| jmil | well, what a coincidence: | 10:02 |
| jmil | http://blog.makerbot.com/2010/09/03/alchemy-analog-into-digital/ | 10:02 |
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| epitron | you know, i was just thinking about this whole privacy debate going on.. | 10:09 |
| epitron | it strikes me that a large part of privacy isn't about secrecy | 10:09 |
| epitron | it's about being able to filter out noise | 10:09 |
| epitron | creativity needs quiet and focus... distraction is the enemy of creativity | 10:10 |
| epitron | thoughts? comments? | 10:10 |
| kanzure | yoda would mumble something to you about two monochromatic colors | 10:10 |
| epitron | and what would a regular non-muppet person say? | 10:12 |
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| epitron | (in other words, i don't understand what you're saying) | 10:17 |
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| Utopiah | http://www.udemy.com | 11:03 |
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| drazak | kanzure: not anymore | 11:10 |
| drazak | kanzure: I was working ridiculous hours and he wasn't paying me | 11:10 |
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| jmil | ouch, damn you kernel panic | 11:43 |
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| jmil | jrayhawk and kanzure i got a kernel panic, you there? anyway to make cgit update faster than 5-6 min? i was hoping instantaneously... | 12:09 |
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| kanzure | you got a kernel panic on gnusha? | 12:22 |
| kanzure | "Hi Folks, a few changes have now been put in place to try and fix a few issues that people have been experiencing with the caching used by cgit on the freedesktop.org repos." | 12:24 |
| kanzure | joe don't you host freedesktop.org? | 12:24 |
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| jrayhawk | No, but I know the people who do. | 13:19 |
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| jrayhawk | No, no kernel panics on that system, so I assume he's talking about his local system. | 13:20 |
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| jrayhawk | jmil: I just disabled caching. cgit kinda needs an upgrade to get smarter caching behavior, so I'll look into that later. | 13:32 |
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| kanzure | digg saga comic.. thing? http://ncomment.com/blog/ | 14:12 |
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| kanzure | diybio question on /sci | 14:41 |
| kanzure | http://green-oval.net/cgi-board.pl/sci/thread/1041962 | 14:41 |
| kanzure | and jason bobe is talking at the next bioethics.gov meeting: http://www.bioethics.gov/meetings/091310/ | 14:48 |
| klafka | bioethics.gov | 14:52 |
| klafka | that seems interesting | 14:53 |
| klafka | except for the philosophical and theological perspectives | 14:53 |
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| jmil | jrayhawk: ok thanks! much appreciated | 14:58 |
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| kanzure | klafka: obama asked these guys to review craig venter's claims of synthetic life | 14:59 |
| kanzure | klafka: http://groups.google.com/group/diybio/browse_thread/thread/08b5da86b61a8154/1eaf928f148d9445?#1eaf928f148d9445 | 15:00 |
| kanzure | http://groups.google.com/group/diybio/browse_thread/thread/7dad27a5b3810f84?tvc=2 | 15:00 |
| klafka | i hope it was hilarious | 15:01 |
| klafka | wow craig venter manages to sound up his own ass in that transcript as well | 15:03 |
| jrayhawk | You should teach jmil to abuse gnusha for irc client hosting. | 15:14 |
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| kanzure | path planning for assemling sequences http://projects.opencascade.org/projects/assembly.html | 15:47 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: it's weird, he already knows about screen and dtach so i dunno what's up | 15:48 |
| nsh- | what's up? | 15:53 |
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| kanzure | *assembling | 16:02 |
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| kanzure | wonder where this came from? | 16:11 |
| kanzure | http://lignumcad.sourceforge.net/ | 16:11 |
| kanzure | heh "requires opengl 1.2!" | 16:13 |
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| kanzure | hhrawr | 17:28 |
| kanzure | http://web.archive.org/web/20020422095301/http://cvsweb.matra-dtv.fr:8100/journal/ros.htm | 17:28 |
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| jmil | jrayhawk: what's ur email? I want to include u on this email proposal to Adrian for reprap | 17:52 |
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| jrayhawk | jrayhawk+reprap@omgwallhack.org | 17:53 |
| jrayhawk | window 2 | 17:54 |
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| jmil | jrayhawk and kanzure join #reprap, i'm floating the idea of the reprap git repo | 19:40 |
| kanzure | sounds like you'd like cgit to be publicly accessible | 19:46 |
| jmil | ya i thought it was?? | 19:46 |
| jmil | please do | 19:46 |
| jmil | can you email me the link? gotta go offline in a sec | 19:47 |
| kanzure | what link? | 19:48 |
| jmil | when you make an unencrypted link for the cgit interface, just mail it to me so i will put it in the announcement to reprap-dev | 19:48 |
| Daeken | kanzure: hey, what license is the python emotiv stuff under? i've made some modifications and want to have someone run it for me to get some data i need, but don't want to send it out there without the green light from you, since i don't see a license notice here | 19:48 |
| jmil | so people can browse | 19:48 |
| kanzure | Daeken: how about gpl2? | 19:49 |
| Daeken | kanzure: works for me, just wanted to be sure it was cool to redistribute in some form | 19:50 |
| jmil | kanzure: send to me, ya? | 19:50 |
| Daeken | kanzure: i'm to the point now where if i can get some data logs in a known-good form, i should be able to fake the software out and feed it data | 19:50 |
| jmil | gotta go | 19:50 |
| kanzure | jmil: i'll only send it if i have it | 19:50 |
| kanzure | Daeken: did you take a copy of my .dat file? | 19:51 |
| jmil | oh i thought you were going to make an unencrypted form? | 19:51 |
| jmil | that's why we were using ur server, right? | 19:51 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/irc/emotiv/epoc/kanzure_emotiv_epoc_egg.dat | 19:51 |
| kanzure | jmil: don't worry about it, i'll figure it out and email it to you | 19:51 |
| Daeken | kanzure: yea, but the data's truncated in a way i can't trust really | 19:51 |
| kanzure | all i was saying is that you won't get the email if i don't get it done | 19:51 |
| kanzure | Daeken: fair enough | 19:52 |
| jmil | oh ok thanks. is jrayhawk not here? | 19:52 |
| kanzure | he's always here | 19:52 |
| kanzure | so am i, for that matter- you should consider using irc under screen on the server | 19:52 |
| jmil | i'm working with johnnyr of mendel and ultimachine fame to help beta test it for us. he will be first user account | 19:52 |
| jmil | what uu mean, using irc under screen on the server? | 19:53 |
| kanzure | you know about screen right? | 19:53 |
| kanzure | you were using it the other day | 19:53 |
| jmil | ya i used yesterday | 19:53 |
| jmil | never used irc via command line tho | 19:53 |
| kanzure | okay, so just run irssi under a screen session | 19:53 |
| jmil | you mean so i always get messages? | 19:53 |
| kanzure | irssi is a command line irc session | 19:53 |
| kanzure | yes | 19:53 |
| kanzure | and then you just log in whenever you feel like it | 19:53 |
| jmil | how do you check for shoutouts? | 19:53 |
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| kanzure | they are highlighted plus there's some commands for irssi to scroll to them | 19:54 |
| kanzure | etc. etc. | 19:54 |
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| jmil | oh good idea. i might use that for a lot of #rooms lol | 19:54 |
| kanzure | yep | 19:54 |
| kanzure | i use it for about 50 channels | 19:54 |
| kanzure | btw was the cgit caching issue fixed? | 19:55 |
| jmil | ya jrayhawk turned off caching so taht's ideal | 19:56 |
| jmil | i just tested now, it's instantaneous | 19:56 |
| jmil | w00t | 19:56 |
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| kanzure | so much for screen | 19:57 |
| kanzure | this is hopeless | 19:57 |
| Alystair | hmm | 19:59 |
| Alystair | I think the GPU would be a terrible fit for TCP/IP D: | 19:59 |
| Alystair | branching and all that.. | 19:59 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/cgit/reprap/ | 20:00 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: i edited /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/005-diyhpl.us-piny to have lines 12 and 13 (including the alias for /static) dunno if that's the ideal way to do this | 20:00 |
| kanzure | aliases tend to pile up and get awful | 20:00 |
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| jrayhawk | symlinks are also fine | 20:12 |
| jrayhawk | The only real issue would be if you or jsmiller were to 'newrepo static' or 'newrepo cgit' and expect ikiwiki to work. | 20:13 |
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| kanzure | "This approach enabled Matra Datavision to become the first CAD/CAM/CAE software company to get the ISO 9001 international certificate for its highest-quality software." | 20:36 |
| kanzure | what? opencascade is iso9001 certified? what a joke | 20:36 |
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| kanzure | is there any particular reason git://diyhpl.us/skdb.git works but /cgit doesn't show the repo? | 21:28 |
| kanzure | /etc/cgitrepos looks like a good reason | 21:29 |
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| jrayhawk | Yeah; there's a later version of cgit that actually publishes things properly, but it's not debian packaged and I am lazy. | 21:34 |
| kanzure | "You do realize that the packets used for the most basic ping test are a few bits of an image of a topless pin up model, right?" | 22:16 |
| * katsmeow-afk notes an increase in internet ping traffic | 22:19 | |
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| kanzure | "Our rule of thumb is that a leading-edge fabless chip company requires about $100 million to survive." | 22:35 |
| kanzure | wolfspraul: just think, you're worth $100M :) | 22:36 |
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| kanzure | http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/09/how-to_make_organically-shaped_gear.html | 23:57 |
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