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| splicer | Merediths Biopunk manifesto video link: http://artsci.ucla.edu/videos/outlaw_biology/OB5_Meredith_Patterson/ | 00:00 |
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| kanzure | oh outlaw biology had videos? | 00:01 |
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| kanzure | http://www.hplusmagazine.com/editors-blog/biotech-revolution-must-start-education james from otypes | 09:44 |
| kanzure | "japanese society for cell synthesis" | 09:47 |
| kanzure | this has a short overview of synthetic biology in japan: http://www.twanetwerk.nl/default.ashx?DocumentID=14241 | 09:47 |
| kanzure | http://www-symbio.ist.osaka-u.ac.jp/en/index.html | 09:47 |
| kanzure | http://www.eng.chiba-u.ac.jp/e-grad-school14.html | 09:47 |
| kanzure | http://www.sb.dis.titech.ac.jp/ | 09:48 |
| kanzure | http://www.psc.riken.jp/english/group/functional/index.html | 09:48 |
| kanzure | http://www.cdb.riken.go.jp/en/index.html | 09:48 |
| kanzure | http://www.f.waseda.jp/hideo-iwasaki/english.html | 09:48 |
| kanzure | http://www.sbj.or.jp/e/news/news_20091124-1.html | 09:48 |
| dustbin | how's the cad project coming | 09:51 |
| kanzure | i've been finding creative ways to avoid the visualization front-end | 09:51 |
| dustbin | heh | 09:52 |
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| kanzure | part of the reason is that #python told me "you're doing it wrong" when i was doing ipython -wthread for an interactive session while running my visualizer | 09:54 |
| kanzure | they suggested that i write my own interpreter hooks directly into the app itself :/ | 09:54 |
| kanzure | so now i've been wondering which way to go.. a relatively "wrong" way (which, uh, we want to keep this clean) but easy way, or spend a lot of time doing things i really don't like doing but will get the job done too? | 09:55 |
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| kanzure | jmil: i suggest using screen for irc | 10:25 |
| jmil | right now? | 10:25 |
| jmil | did i miss something? | 10:25 |
| jmil | don't have time to read irssi manual | 10:25 |
| ybit2 | quassel ftw | 10:30 |
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| kanzure | jmil: if you need assistance, feel free to call me while you're first using it (it's not more than 30 seconds) | 10:31 |
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| jmil | kanzure and jrayhawk reprap-dev email done, thx for your feedback | 10:38 |
| jmil | let the flame war begin | 10:39 |
| kanzure | let's hope we don't have another repeat of "pdf vs. git" | 10:39 |
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| jmil | lol no joke | 10:40 |
| jmil | all design files should just be in a single continuous ASCII file | 10:40 |
| jmil | that makes the most sense | 10:40 |
| jmil | we will store it on a usb flash drive | 10:41 |
| kanzure | actually, i'm very anti-pdf for design file storage | 10:41 |
| kanzure | it's ok as an exported file from some other format | 10:41 |
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| jmil | if it's vector graphics, i don't mind it so much. because it's ascii so you can get the data out | 10:42 |
| kanzure | but it's like saying "okay, i made a .sldprt model and here's the stl of the design" "great, can we have the design?" "no. here's the stl" | 10:42 |
| kanzure | nah, people will probably screw up storing vector data in a pdf file | 10:42 |
| jmil | lol true, true | 10:42 |
| jmil | "i convert to pdf by saving my jpeg as pdf... now it's vector right?" | 10:42 |
| kanzure | http://reprap.org/pipermail/reprap-dev/2010-September/000510.html | 10:50 |
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| kanzure | wow pycrust and pyshell are fairly "bulky" | 11:57 |
| kanzure | like: | 11:57 |
| kanzure | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/813571/embedding-a-python-shell-inside-a-python-program | 11:57 |
| kanzure | http://openp2p.com/pub/a/python/2002/07/18/pycrust.html?page=2 | 11:57 |
| kanzure | http://www.wxpython.org/ss/pyshell.png | 11:58 |
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| kanzure | "Kind of reminds me of a friend who worked in sales. Whenever he was going to take a client to a restaurant he would always go to the restaurant the day before find a waiter who was going to be there during the lunch meeting and tip heavily so as to be sure of good service during the working lunch." | 12:26 |
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| epitron | kanzure: you ever used reinteract? | 14:03 |
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| kanzure | epitron: no, but i think i've seen a few terminals like that | 14:19 |
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| epitron | it's a lightweight embeddable python shell with re-executable history | 14:24 |
| epitron | you should play with it a bit | 14:24 |
| epitron | the re-executable history is really clever... it maintains dependencies between lines of code | 14:24 |
| epitron | so it only has to re-execute the lines that need it | 14:25 |
| epitron | also, it lets you add a method to an object to have it display graphically in the window | 14:25 |
| kanzure | i'm just going to say screw it and go with ipython -wthread and anyone who complains can just write something better | 14:25 |
| epitron | i still strongly recommend trying reinteract | 14:26 |
| kanzure | okay. i have nothing against tryingi t :) | 14:26 |
| epitron | it will change the way you think about CLIs | 14:26 |
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| kanzure | wtf | 16:27 |
| kanzure | foresight institute gets about $500k/year in donations | 16:27 |
| kanzure | random blog: http://singularity2050.com/ | 16:28 |
| kanzure | i wonder where all these people are coming from: http://www.aerogel.org/?p=1149 | 16:36 |
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| kanzure | Nanotechnology and the Commons: Implications of Open Source Abundance in Millennial Quasi-Commons (Bryan Buns) http://www.cm.ksc.co.th/~bruns/opennan2.htm | 16:42 |
| kanzure | what was zyvex diamondcad? | 16:46 |
| kanzure | and the "open patent license"? | 16:46 |
| kanzure | Open Sourcing Nanotechnology Research and Development: Issues and Opportunities http://www.cm.ksc.co.th/~bruns/open_mnt.htm | 16:46 |
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| kanzure | tooltip failuer mode BOINC project results http://www.nanohive-1.org/tooltip-failure-mode-search-project-results.html | 18:30 |
| kanzure | *failure | 18:31 |
| kanzure | explanation http://www.nanohive-1.org/tooltip-failure-mode-search-project.html | 18:31 |
| kanzure | so "brian helfrich" wrote nanoengineer-1? | 18:32 |
| kanzure | http://sourceforge.net/projects/nano-hive/ | 18:33 |
| kanzure | "I'm no longer maintaining NanoHive-1 nor NanoHive@Home. If you would like to take over either or both of the projects please contact me and I can help you (or at minimum hand over the keys.) --Brian. " | 18:33 |
| kanzure | damn it, guess i should get on that | 18:33 |
| drazak | anyone ever use chembiodraw office? | 18:36 |
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| drazak | superkuh: ever use chembiodraw office? | 19:32 |
| superkuh | No. I've used chemdraw office. | 19:33 |
| drazak | superkuh: I have a chance to get it free, and I'm trying to compare it to other software, but the literature is a little uh, sparkly | 19:33 |
| drazak | same thing, for what I'll be using it for | 19:33 |
| drazak | can I input a structural formula ( OCHCH3 ) and it'll spit out the shape ( the shape of ethanal ) ? | 19:33 |
| superkuh | I don't know. If it is in SMILES. | 19:34 |
| kanzure | isn't there a smiles2png script somewhere? | 19:34 |
| superkuh | I think I remember a database lookup tool that could handle that, or the english name. | 19:35 |
| superkuh | In chemdraw. | 19:35 |
| drazak | superkuh: that would be cool | 19:35 |
| drazak | superkuh: I'd like to use it to expand my notes from o-ghem | 19:35 |
| drazak | superkuh: er, o-chem | 19:35 |
| drazak | I was also looking at chemdoodle | 19:40 |
| drazak | because it /can/ for a /fact/ import from structural formula | 19:41 |
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| kanzure | http://www.twirlip.net/ "Twirlip's wholistic integrated resources linking intelligent peers of the Mists" | 20:24 |
| kanzure | wtf paul | 20:24 |
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| kanzure | http://www.glprogramming.com/red/chapter03.html is helpful for my opengl woes | 21:47 |
| dustbin | that twirlip thing is a bit odd... | 21:49 |
| dustbin | professor fussels graphics class did an excellent job of explaining all the matrix transform theory | 21:52 |
| kanzure | who is professor fussels graphics? | 21:56 |
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| dustbin | professor fussell's graphics class at UT | 22:01 |
| dustbin | he was my adviser for my undergraduate thesis as well | 22:01 |
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