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| kanzure | so it looks like adrian wants to stick with github | 08:31 |
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| kristianpaul | kanzure: good :) | 08:57 |
| kristianpaul | kanzure: where you read that? | 08:57 |
| kanzure | reprap-dev mailing list | 08:58 |
| kanzure | we were offering to host the git repositories for hm | 08:58 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/cgit/reprap | 08:58 |
| kristianpaul | but git requires a plan reprap is huge.. | 08:59 |
| kristianpaul | git hub* | 08:59 |
| kanzure | why does it require a plan? | 09:00 |
| kristianpaul | repository size | 09:00 |
| kristianpaul | no? | 09:00 |
| kanzure | well we successfully converted it | 09:00 |
| kanzure | git clone git://diyhpl.us/reprap.git | 09:00 |
| kristianpaul | i see | 09:00 |
| kristianpaul | good cloning now | 09:01 |
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| kanzure | http://mail.alibre.com/ | 09:28 |
| kanzure | currently says "resistance is futile" | 09:28 |
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| egeste | I want a reprap | 11:13 |
| epitron | githubbbb \o/ | 11:27 |
| epitron | hahah the repo is still huge | 11:28 |
| epitron | is it still 2gb? | 11:29 |
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| kanzure | epitron: nah, it's half that | 12:25 |
| kanzure | (which, admittedly, isn't much better) | 12:25 |
| * nsh rages | 12:35 | |
| nsh | someone distract me with something cool | 12:35 |
| kanzure | http://solidworkslaunch.com/ ? | 12:41 |
| kanzure | :P | 12:41 |
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| epitron | i still highly recommend cutting a version, putting the 1gb repo in that version, then pruning to make a new repo | 12:51 |
| epitron | i think branches let you do that as well | 12:52 |
| epitron | you don't have to actually make a new repo | 12:52 |
| epitron | that should work as long as the branch isn't setup to track by default | 12:52 |
| epitron | i'm not totally sure about that though... | 12:53 |
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| kanzure | hrm, when did dassault acquire dymola? | 13:20 |
| kanzure | http://www.3ds.com/products/catia/portfolio/dymola/model-libraries/ | 13:20 |
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| splicer_ | http://tedxcanton.com/ | 13:52 |
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| kanzure | http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/images/wmgdmm/2005/10/03/delmia_robotics2.jpg | 15:05 |
| kanzure | http://www.ascendbridge.com/Website/AscendBridge/Graphics.nsf/Graphics/DELMIA/$file/DELMIA2.jpg | 15:06 |
| splicer_ | wrote a post on the context of garage biology: http://www.biopunk.org/garage-biology-and-politics-t503.html | 15:06 |
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| thesnark | good evening guys | 15:56 |
| kanzure | kartik's talk at foresight conf: http://vimeo.com/9217459 | 15:58 |
| kanzure | charity navigator profile of the foresight institute: | 15:58 |
| kanzure | http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=10491 | 15:58 |
| kanzure | revenue for 2007 was $368k | 15:58 |
| kanzure | does this look like a molds site to anyone? http://molds.cn/ | 16:21 |
| thesnark | yes kanzure | 16:21 |
| thesnark | 2nd and 3rd tab | 16:21 |
| thesnark | protip: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmolds.cn%2F | 16:22 |
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| kanzure | well this looks pretty simple: | 17:14 |
| kanzure | http://web.archive.org/web/20011014162112/http://www.traceparts.com/fr/files/exemple.cad.txt | 17:14 |
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| thesnark | script { | 17:20 |
| thesnark | what? | 17:20 |
| thesnark | What language? | 17:20 |
| kanzure | no clue | 17:20 |
| thesnark | Oh, some cad thing | 17:20 |
| kanzure | but it looks simple :) | 17:20 |
| kanzure | that's actually an ISO standard part | 17:20 |
| jmil | kanzure: w0w git submodules is a clusterfuck | 17:23 |
| jmil | http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-submodule.html | 17:23 |
| jmil | http://progit.org/book/ch6-6.html | 17:23 |
| jmil | http://book.git-scm.com/5_submodules.html | 17:23 |
| kanzure | usually when you want to have a small download for someone you do nightly builds of the source repository or something | 17:24 |
| kanzure | and then a user can download the build and have fun | 17:24 |
| kanzure | but adrian is complaining that every user has to download the entire revision control repository and history | 17:24 |
| jmil | ya, exactly | 17:25 |
| jmil | the history is 1 GB, but the working directory is also 1 GB | 17:25 |
| thesnark | http://acm.ashland.edu/2009/Problem-Set/Solutions/B.java The opposite of simple | 17:25 |
| thesnark | That is a Judge's solution to a programming contest problem | 17:25 |
| thesnark | how the fuck are they a judge? | 17:25 |
| jmil | but then if we make every folder he wants into a submodule, we lose the ability to easily update the whole project | 17:25 |
| thesnark | such a clusterfuck | 17:25 |
| jmil | you have to manually update each submodule and push it FIRST before you update the superproject | 17:26 |
| jmil | so it's either easy for people with fat internet pipes only, or we have submodule hell and committing is forever a pain in the ass | 17:27 |
| jmil | would be better to just download the whole repo at work onto a flash drive, then he'd have it at home | 17:27 |
| kanzure | why can't he just get an account on diyhpl.us and clone it there? | 17:28 |
| jmil | kanzure: interesting... but then he'd have to package the folder he wanted and make it available for download to his home computer | 17:29 |
| jmil | because you can't work on reprap design files from remote command line :( | 17:29 |
| kanzure | sure you can | 17:29 |
| kanzure | ssh -X :) | 17:29 |
| jmil | lolwut? | 17:29 |
| jmil | oh lmao | 17:29 |
| thesnark | X forwarding over an ISP is sllllow | 17:30 |
| thesnark | VNC is faster | 17:30 |
| jmil | ya no joke. that's why lmao | 17:30 |
| kanzure | i think he just wants "nightly builds" or "download as .tgz" from a certain folder location | 17:30 |
| thesnark | just saying | 17:30 |
| QuantumG | http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/english/melani/cs6/stop.html xkcd just informed me that this poem can be read to the tune of Gilligan's Island. | 17:30 |
| kanzure | i'm also not sure why the entire reprap project is one repo | 17:30 |
| jmil | kanzure: ya, think we can have a git hook make .zip and .tgz of certain folders when they are updated? | 17:31 |
| kanzure | sure | 17:31 |
| jmil | kanzure: see above... if each is its own repo then we have to manage each one independently | 17:31 |
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| jmil | as submodules | 17:31 |
| kanzure | jmil: you should also tell adrian that he can just downlaod the git repo one time | 17:31 |
| kanzure | and then when he pulls changes, he only gets the new changes | 17:31 |
| jmil | submodule hell = worse than dll hell | 17:31 |
| kanzure | so i don't see what the problem is | 17:31 |
| jmil | kanzure: ya but he will get ornery b/c of "developing countries" | 17:32 |
| kanzure | then for fuck's sake it shouldn't be 1 GB in the first place | 17:32 |
| jmil | but i don't think there are any reprap devs in the middle of the african desert... yet | 17:32 |
| jmil | lol ya but you can't say that to adrian | 17:32 |
| jmil | he will say, well hell we'll just stay with SVN | 17:32 |
| kanzure | uh | 17:32 |
| kanzure | who made him in charge? fork | 17:33 |
| jmil | ya we did already | 17:33 |
| jmil | diyhpl.us :) | 17:33 |
| kanzure | but again | 17:33 |
| jmil | it would just be nice to get the git.reprap.org like you suggested | 17:33 |
| kanzure | do you know why it's all in one repo? | 17:33 |
| jmil | how else would we do it? submodules, right? | 17:33 |
| kanzure | for instance, debian.org is not all in one repo | 17:34 |
| jmil | i personally like that it's all one repo, easy cloning around and you always are sure to have a complete copy | 17:34 |
| jmil | debian.org has vastly independent pieces | 17:34 |
| jmil | way moreso than reprap | 17:34 |
| kanzure | what's wrong with a distribution of hardware components | 17:34 |
| jmil | huh? | 17:35 |
| jmil | lay it out for me | 17:35 |
| kanzure | reusable hardware components in separate git repositories | 17:35 |
| kanzure | instead of cramming it all into one | 17:35 |
| jmil | what do you mean hardware components? | 17:36 |
| jmil | he laid out which submodules he wanted | 17:37 |
| jmil | already | 17:37 |
| kanzure | electronics, huxley, mendel, software___firmware, host, darwin | 17:38 |
| kanzure | those are some fairly broad projects each | 17:38 |
| kanzure | god damn it where's fenn when you need him | 17:38 |
| jmil | fenn: ? | 17:39 |
| kanzure | he's off on some soul quest thing | 17:39 |
| kanzure | something about burning man | 17:39 |
| kanzure | is there any particular reason huxley and darwin should be in the same repository? | 17:40 |
| jmil | i guess just posterity | 17:40 |
| kanzure | actually it would be more useful to look at where the largest files are | 17:40 |
| kanzure | is the space mostly the revision history or foolishly large files? | 17:41 |
| jmil | join #git | 17:41 |
| kanzure | i've been in there for a few weeks | 17:42 |
| jmil | it's a funny discussion we're having | 17:46 |
| jmil | kanzure what do you mean subsidize their own time? | 17:48 |
| kanzure | open source developers didn't invent "free energy" | 17:50 |
| kanzure | some of them have patrons, funding, or their own funding | 17:50 |
| jmil | oh, lol | 17:50 |
| jmil | i'm one of those | 17:50 |
| jmil | aren't you too? | 17:56 |
| jmil | kanzure: ok well let's just make the cron script at least | 17:59 |
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| kanzure | why'd he leave? | 18:08 |
| QuantumG | he quit.. might have been technical difficulties | 18:13 |
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| kanzure | tracepartsonline.net is very weird.. they claim you can download various CAD files from them | 18:39 |
| kanzure | took me forever to figure it out, but when you click "add to caddy" it *emails* you the files | 18:39 |
| kanzure | in a .zip file | 18:39 |
| dustbin | that's odd... | 18:40 |
| kanzure | i was ignoring the email because it honestly said nothing of interest to me, and only by chance noticed the parts.zip attachment | 18:40 |
| jrayhawk | xcb-based applications are okay to use on high latency connections | 19:03 |
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| jrayhawk | What's the cron script thing he wanted? | 19:15 |
| kanzure | nightly .tgz builds of subdirectories in the git repository i think | 19:18 |
| kanzure | adrian was complaining that, in svn, you can "checkout" just a subfolder of a giant repository | 19:19 |
| kanzure | and he didn't see a way to do that with a git repository | 19:19 |
| kanzure | (a lot of this is messed up and needs better architecture) | 19:19 |
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| katsmeow-afk | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11181753 | 20:25 |
| katsmeow-afk | "It's like a jigsaw puzzle that you throw into the air and it comes down completely assembled," Professor Strano said. | 20:25 |
| katsmeow-afk | This self-assembly leads naturally to a self-repair scheme. | 20:25 |
| katsmeow-afk | solar cells | 20:25 |
| katsmeow-afk | hm, that page seems to be a re-do of the January 2010 article http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8452912.stm | 20:26 |
| katsmeow-afk | The approach made a device of 64,000 parts in three minutes | 20:27 |
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| kanzure | hehe sniffing solidworks-vs-autodesk employee edits on wikipedia | 21:27 |
| kanzure | http://blog.novedge.com/2007/08/cad-companies-p.html | 21:27 |
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| jmil | kanzure and jrayhawk u there? let's do the cron job soon | 22:17 |
| jmil | can you give me a crontab i can use? | 22:17 |
| jmil | oh, and not to start a flame war, but can you give me emacs too? | 22:23 |
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| kanzure | http://swdownload.solidworks.com/pdownload/cosmos/COSMOSM/cos295-180/COSMOSM295.exe | 22:29 |
| kanzure | http://svca.solidworks.com/pdownload/cosmos/COSMOSMotion/version2005/sp00/cmIEnglish.exe | 22:29 |
| kanzure | jmil: ok, you have emacs | 22:30 |
| jmil | no shit | 22:30 |
| kanzure | huh? no i mean i just installed it for you | 22:30 |
| jmil | OMG WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 22:32 |
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| jmil | control-x control-s; control-x control-c | 22:33 |
| drazak | jmil: good 'ole m-c m-x m-butterfly | 22:41 |
| jmil | lol | 22:44 |
| kanzure | hrm.. | 22:55 |
| kanzure | http://www.opencascade.com.cn/forum/index.php | 22:55 |
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| kanzure | https://www.3ds.com/fileadmin/3dxml_gallery/3dxml_models/3DXML_models.zip | 23:04 |
| kanzure | a "plm game"? https://www.3ds.com/fileadmin/corporate/goodies/plm_game/plmgame_en.exe | 23:04 |
| kanzure | also: http://ocsprojects.opencascade.com/bugtracker/ | 23:05 |
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| kanzure | http://more.brlcad.org/model/havoc BRL-GSI Paris Air Show Soviet HAVOC Helicopter | 23:55 |
| kanzure | genehacker: http://swdownload.solidworks.com/pdownload/cosmos/COSMOSM/cos295-180/COSMOSM295.exe | 23:56 |
| kanzure | genehacker: http://svca.solidworks.com/pdownload/cosmos/COSMOSMotion/version2005/sp00/cmIEnglish.exe | 23:56 |
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