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| kanzure | archels: /topic can't be done until freenode staff makes someone an op :( | 05:28 |
| uniqanomaly_ | or everybody will leave for a sec | 05:32 |
| uniqanomaly_ | well that can be problematic too | 05:32 |
| archels | kanzure: Is there an official founder of this channel? | 05:33 |
| kanzure | me | 05:34 |
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| archels | ah :) | 05:45 |
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| archels | kanzure: Might it be a good idea to ask a staffer to officially register the channel with you as founder? | 05:52 |
| Utopiah | :) | 05:52 |
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| joshcryer | -ChanServ- #hplusroadmap is not registered. | 06:04 |
| joshcryer | Good going, haha. | 06:04 |
| JayDugger | Good morning, everyone. | 06:04 |
| joshcryer | Have a staffer op you in here kanzure, then register. | 06:05 |
| JayDugger | fenn: because it has the flavors of espionage and cyberpunk fiction. | 06:05 |
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| kanzure | archels: i've been trying for years to get that to happen | 06:36 |
| joshcryer | 0 staff members | 06:38 |
| joshcryer | :O | 06:38 |
| joshcryer | That's actually kind of disturbing, never have I seen that before on any IRC network, there's always an admin or two somewhere. | 06:39 |
| archels | Weird, my experience with staffers has always been quick & good. | 06:41 |
| joshcryer | kanzure, they're telling me to do this: http://blog.freenode.net/2010/06/group-registration-form-verifications/ | 06:44 |
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| joshcryer | Probably easier to just get a staffer to forward this channel to ##hplusroadmap for the time being and boot everyone. :) | 06:46 |
| joshcryer | They're really ... anal about this it seems. | 06:46 |
| joshcryer | One little character. :P | 06:47 |
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| joshcryer | Or we could all go to ##hplusroadmap for now, and then /part here... requires personal effort though. | 06:51 |
| * phryk ~ Tiger Hunter - Kim-Ba :: 10 Years Of Terror Vol 2 [@98% vol] | 06:59 | |
| phryk | Awesome terror is awesome :3 | 06:59 |
| joshcryer | That looked like a book title to me. | 06:59 |
| phryk | Heh | 07:00 |
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| phryk | It's a track on a 2003 terrorcore compilation ^^; | 07:01 |
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| kanzure | slides from open hardware summit http://www.openhardwaresummit.org/documentation-and-press/ | 08:29 |
| kanzure | http://www.flickr.com/photos/open_hardware_summit/ | 08:29 |
| kanzure | raytheon xos 2 exoskeleton http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UpxsrlLbpU | 08:31 |
| kanzure | flickr pool: http://www.flickr.com/groups/ohs2010/ | 08:31 |
| kanzure | final program lineup: http://www.openhardwaresummit.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/OHprogram-FINAL.pdf | 08:32 |
| Utopiah | kanzure: http://www.natural-selection.com could be a nice addition to ViualizeIT | 08:32 |
| kanzure | "Working for free to make Mark Shuttleworth richer isn't very smart." hah | 08:38 |
| kanzure | Utopiah: VisualizeIT is more like the name we gave to emailing word documents around to different universities | 08:38 |
| Utopiah | :| | 08:39 |
| joshcryer | what's ViualizeIT? | 08:39 |
| Utopiah | joshcryer: well in my mind it was a revolutionary revision control collaborative design platform but... if it's emails :\ | 08:40 |
| Utopiah | then I take the link back! | 08:40 |
| joshcryer | Oh I thought kanzure named his CAD program that. | 08:40 |
| joshcryer | And was going to mock. | 08:40 |
| kanzure | joshcryer: nah, Utopiah is talking about a link i posted the other day | 08:41 |
| kanzure | to my first peer-reviewed, published paper | 08:41 |
| joshcryer | oh congrats =) | 08:41 |
| kanzure | wilbanks' presentation is pretty good http://www.slideshare.net/wilbanks/oshw-wilbanks | 08:42 |
| kanzure | although it doesn't give me my answers | 08:44 |
| kanzure | open hardware summit videos http://www.ustream.tv/channel/open-hardware-summit-2010 | 08:44 |
| dbolser | kanzure: publication link? | 08:59 |
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| Utopiah | http://scitation.aip.org/getabs/servlet/GetabsServlet?prog=normal&id=JCISB6000010000003031007000001&idtype=cvips&gifs=yes&ref=no | 08:59 |
| dbolser | ty | 08:59 |
| dbolser | Subscribers Only ... | 09:01 |
| kanzure | i don't have a copy either | 09:02 |
| kanzure | so you're not alone | 09:02 |
| dbolser | how bout your co-authors? | 09:04 |
| kanzure | yeah i'll ask. | 09:06 |
| kanzure | "One more or less serious question for you. Do you know anyone who is working on wood? I'm interested in whether lignin (wood is primarily cellulose fibers embedded in a lignin matrix) in one piece of wood can be reactivated and cross-linked to another piece of wood." | 09:06 |
| kanzure | "There is a German firm doing some kind of stuff with injection molding of plasticized lignin, if memory serves, so it seems possible." | 09:07 |
| dbolser | hmm... who was I talking to about wood... | 09:11 |
| dbolser | why is that in "s? | 09:11 |
| dbolser | I heard about german company building structures with live trees | 09:12 |
| dbolser | the trees adapt to the load, growing specifically in regions that need strength, but that isn't this | 09:12 |
| dbolser | btw, I asked George Church about the polonator, and he claimed its all online | 09:16 |
| dbolser | didn't check yet, but I remember what you sais | 09:16 |
| dbolser | said | 09:16 |
| kanzure | it's in quotes because i didn't write it | 09:18 |
| kanzure | webcast on gliese81g http://bit.ly/webcast-gliese581g | 09:21 |
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| dbolser | kanzure: you know about the bet between sheldrake and wolpert? | 09:25 |
| dbolser | to do with computer simulation of embryogenesis | 09:25 |
| dbolser | I was wondering if I could use some of your evolutionary design code to try to evolve a model of embryogenesis | 09:27 |
| kanzure | what "evolutionary design code" | 09:34 |
| kanzure | there's lots of implementations of genetic algorithms out there.. | 09:34 |
| kanzure | the main tool out of matt's lab is http://graphsynth.com/ for playing around with generative grammars | 09:36 |
| dbolser | hmmm | 09:37 |
| dbolser | sorry, thought you were doing some evolutionary cad thing | 09:38 |
| dbolser | graph grammars are cool | 09:38 |
| Utopiah | embryogenesis of what organism? | 09:39 |
| dbolser | we tried to learn some from protein structures to solve the protein folding problem | 09:39 |
| dbolser | Utopiah: human, chick or mouse | 09:39 |
| Utopiah | cool | 09:39 |
| dbolser | there is a big open source mouse development db | 09:39 |
| dbolser | thinking of perhaps using kaggle | 09:40 |
| Utopiah | forgot that platform, is it active? | 09:42 |
| dbolser | yup | 09:43 |
| dbolser | kanzure: did you attend this open manufacture conf? | 09:43 |
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| kanzure | dbolser: no, didn't attend | 09:50 |
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| dbolser | seems quite 'talkie' | 09:54 |
| kanzure | there are a few reasons i didn't go | 09:55 |
| kanzure | but let's just say that they don't impress me :) | 09:55 |
| dbolser | 'wikipedia for components'... | 09:56 |
| dbolser | revolutionary! | 09:56 |
| dbolser | ;-) | 09:56 |
| kanzure | well.. they don't even want to do /that/ | 09:56 |
| JayDugger | Good night, everyone. | 09:56 |
| dbolser | heh | 09:57 |
| dbolser | btw, I spoke to a 'genome evangelist' at the personal genomics meeting in cshl | 09:57 |
| dbolser | interesting stuff... govt wants to restrict 'direct to consumer' genome sequencing, but individuals (especially the very ill) are demanding the right to their genomic information | 09:58 |
| Utopiah | http://www.technolife.no | 09:58 |
| dbolser | btw, I have access to all the PG lectures, but I'm finding it hard to rip them | 10:00 |
| masked | yeh damn straight | 10:00 |
| dbolser | anyone good with mplayer? | 10:00 |
| masked | i want gene therapy | 10:00 |
| * kanzure is good with mplayer | 10:00 | |
| masked | for pyroluria | 10:00 |
| masked | i'm doing everything humanly possible to offset it | 10:00 |
| dbolser | kanzure: I start the stream, but it times out after like 1 min with an obscure error message.... | 10:00 |
| kanzure | is it rmtp | 10:01 |
| dbolser | kanzure: right | 10:01 |
| masked | but if they don't allow us to gene therapy | 10:01 |
| Utopiah | http://rtmpdump.mplayerhq.hu | 10:01 |
| dbolser | one moment, and I'll pass you the link | 10:01 |
| masked | i'm stuck doing tests and talking compounds everyday for the rest of my life | 10:01 |
| dbolser | Utopiah: I'll try it | 10:02 |
| masked | hmm there is something odd in that markupcode | 10:02 |
| masked | it jerked my system for a moment | 10:02 |
| dbolser | Here is a 'zample: rtsp://dbolser:000006@meetstream.cshl.edu:554/Secure/PERSON/K.rm?title="Hood"&start=0:04:14.0&end=0:59:01.0 | 10:02 |
| dbolser | lee hood | 10:03 |
| dbolser | realrtsp: rdt chunk not recognized: got 0x2a | 10:05 |
| dbolser | I'd like to rip them and stick them online | 10:05 |
| kanzure | i don't know what to do today with lolcad: implement rotation/translation/zoom, convert export_step into something more object oriented, implement the simplified geoemtric API, or map STEP entities to NURBS for visualization | 10:06 |
| kanzure | decisions decisions.. | 10:06 |
| dbolser | Utopiah: linking probs.. | 10:09 |
| dbolser | rtmpdump: error while loading shared libraries: librtmp.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 10:10 |
| dbolser | cp librtmp.so.0 /usr/local/lib | 10:11 |
| Utopiah | I used it on VideoLectures.net , worked well | 10:12 |
| dbolser | OK, set LD_... | 10:12 |
| dbolser | Utopiah: how do I set the Authentication string? | 10:15 |
| dbolser | sorry, just found the man page ;-) | 10:16 |
| dbolser | hmm... it doesn't understand my http://user:pass@url | 10:17 |
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| masked | eiuclaoie: | 10:29 |
| dbolser | Utopiah: can you try ripping the above link? | 10:29 |
| dbolser | my only work around is to create a script to measure the length of the chunk I got and construct a url with the appropriate offset | 10:32 |
| dbolser | grab the whole thing piecemeal... | 10:33 |
| masked | what is that above stream? | 10:38 |
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| Utopiah | http://www.mail-archive.com/live-devel@lists.live555.com/msg02756.html | 10:47 |
| Utopiah | sometimes it requires the "origin" URL in which you are supposed to be watching from | 10:47 |
| Utopiah | else, dunno | 10:48 |
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| ybit | http://www.sintel.org/ | 11:05 |
| ybit | Blender Foundation's latest movie has *just* been released | 11:05 |
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| Utopiah | commit logs from the production the movie http://twitter.com/#!/blenduriansvn | 11:10 |
| masked | dbolser: this realmedia downloader appears to be working | 11:10 |
| archels | ybit: wow, that animation is quite poor. | 11:11 |
| masked | Utopiah: "RM Downloader" | 11:11 |
| masked | yer | 11:11 |
| masked | blender tends to lack talent | 11:11 |
| masked | the animation industry is so back-to-front tho | 11:12 |
| masked | all the maya kids think blender kids just wanna "stick it to the man" | 11:12 |
| masked | i know a maya dork | 11:12 |
| archels | Yeah, or is de novo 3D animation really quite difficult/intensive? | 11:13 |
| masked | iono, i wrote this kids scripts | 11:13 |
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| masked | then he'd trash then hours later | 11:14 |
| masked | moron... | 11:14 |
| archels | Avatar of course doesn't count, although that shows that the human factor really cannot be disposed of yet. | 11:15 |
| masked | damn hitler was right with eugenics, genetic clensing :P | 11:16 |
| masked | ah well, other crazy neonazi's are having a good crack | 11:17 |
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| archels | I was talking about the cinematic aspect of the movie. | 11:22 |
| masked | oh haha lol | 11:23 |
| masked | i guess you're right! | 11:23 |
| kanzure | archels: maya users are kinda like adobe photoshop users (in the sense that they hunt for tutorials and spend countless hours in their app) | 11:23 |
| archels | Well, I could think of worse hobbies. I had just hoped the results would be slightly better. | 11:24 |
| masked | yeh this piece of work would have tutorial dvd's with models on disk | 11:25 |
| masked | and them try and tell me he made it | 11:25 |
| archels | How's the state of HDR? Physics simulation? Subsurface scattering? | 11:26 |
| archels | From what I can tell from the video, that's "shit" on all three fronts. | 11:26 |
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| masked | this kid used maya, apple shake, renderman | 11:26 |
| masked | and maybe something else... | 11:26 |
| masked | houdini... | 11:27 |
| kanzure | my chinese informant got back to me with a list of "ridiculously popular sites in china" | 11:30 |
| archels | www.yahoo.cn | 11:30 |
| kanzure | http://baidu.com/ http://tudou.com/ http://qq.com/ http://taobao.com/ http://sina.com/ http://163.com/ http://kaixin001.com/ http://renren.com/ http://ifeng.com/ http://feerbook.com/ http://sohu.com/ http://tom.com/ | 11:31 |
| kanzure | http://china.alibaba.com/ http://hudong.com/ http://dangdang.com/ http://ctrip.com/ http://55bbs.com/ | 11:31 |
| masked | dangdang.comhaha | 11:31 |
| archels | Only .com in the top 17? | 11:32 |
| kanzure | hm? | 11:32 |
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| archels | joshcryer: Re the group registration form, is that really necessary? This isn't supposed to be the official channel for a project, is it? | 12:59 |
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| kanzure | opencores.org interview http://www.efytimes.com/e1/creativenews.asp?edid=51624 | 13:27 |
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| Utopiah | (live Skype discussion with the french transhumanist association, if I don't answer, it's because boredom killed me) | 15:08 |
| masked | sounds like you guys have some cool meetings, convos / what not | 16:02 |
| masked | you should have an internet radio station | 16:02 |
| kanzure | all of my examples for lolcad suck, they have been simple CSG examples so far | 16:13 |
| kanzure | i should switch to "sketch-based" examples | 16:13 |
| kanzure | maybe something with cairo | 16:14 |
| kanzure | the workflow could be: take an arbitrary surface in lolcad, export to svg (as a 3D->2D surface), then draw whatever you want, then load the .svg back in and extrude to your heart's content | 16:26 |
| kanzure | but that's rather complicated | 16:26 |
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| kanzure | jrayhawk: 100930 17:12:51 InnoDB: Error: cannot allocate 1065024 bytes of memory with malloc | 17:34 |
| kanzure | any ideas on this one? | 17:34 |
| jrayhawk | hmm. I might have to clean up a bit. | 17:35 |
| kanzure | not your server | 17:36 |
| jrayhawk | Oh, good. | 17:36 |
| jrayhawk | Extreme fragmentation might be a problem, but probably you're just out of memory. | 17:37 |
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| JayDugger | Good evening, everyone. | 18:12 |
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| JayDugger | For all your writing needs: Soylent. | 18:48 |
| JayDugger | http://code.google.com/p/soylent/ | 18:48 |
| JayDugger | "...Soylent, a word processing interface that integrates crowd contributions to aid users in complex writing tasks ranging from error prevention and shortening paragraphs to automation of tasks like citation searches and tense changes." | 18:49 |
| JayDugger | "Soylent aids the writing process by integrating paid crowd workers from Amazon's Mechanical Turk platform into Microsoft Word, a popular word processing interface. Soy-lent is people: its core algorithms involve calls to Mechani-cal Turk workers (Turkers)." | 18:49 |
| JayDugger | And thousands of otherwise unemployed English majors breathe a sigh of relief. The degree they struggled so hard to obtain proves useful after all, albeit at much less than they hoped. | 18:50 |
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| JayDugger | Too bad (a) it works with Microsoft Turd, and (b) they didn't apply it to the introduction paragraphs on their Google Code page. | 18:51 |
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| kanzure | jrayhawk: we're moving a drupal installation from one hosting provider to another.. how do i check | 19:20 |
| kanzure | we shoudl get mechanical turk to write introductory messages on okcupid for guys->girls | 19:20 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: crap, ignore that | 19:20 |
| JayDugger | There probably exists a good market for that. | 19:20 |
| JayDugger | I would've used it. | 19:20 |
| kanzure | there's like a 2% response rate anyway | 19:20 |
| JayDugger | But my girlfriend answered, and we've been happy since. | 19:21 |
| kanzure | 2% response rate, 10 cents per message, .. | 19:21 |
| kanzure | $200 for 100 responses? | 19:21 |
| JayDugger | You could call the service Cyrano. | 19:21 |
| kanzure | paying $2 just to get a response seems lame | 19:22 |
| JayDugger | And its female-to-male counterpart, Roxanne. | 19:22 |
| kanzure | females don't need any help | 19:22 |
| kanzure | if they take the initiative to send a message they are already outclassing 100% of their peers | 19:22 |
| JayDugger | No, generally not. OKC seems a woman's market. | 19:22 |
| JayDugger | Still, why leave money on the table? How much more work would it take to provide the female-to-male equivalent? | 19:23 |
| kanzure | about zilch | 19:23 |
| JayDugger | And then there's male-to-male and female-to-female. | 19:26 |
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| QuantumG | http://quantumg.blogspot.com/2010/10/affordable-deep-space-exploration.html | 19:47 |
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| joshcryer | archels, the oppers were reluctant to come in here and give someone ops because we have one # in our channel name. By default all channels with one # are "official." | 19:49 |
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| joshcryer | archels, only way they'd do anything is if we had "official group status." It was pretty weird how they were being. | 19:50 |
| kanzure | JayDugger: does paying $1 per response make sense? | 19:50 |
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| joshcryer | I say we all join ##hplusroadmap, I've been lurking in there but won't leave here until there's a 51% majority in there. | 19:53 |
| kanzure | this /is/ an official channel for the hplusroadmap project | 19:53 |
| joshcryer | Yeah but they said that it takes up to 6 months to even a year to get group status approved. :O | 19:54 |
| kanzure | good thing i startedd it more than a year ago | 19:54 |
| kanzure | *started | 19:54 |
| joshcryer | Wow. | 19:54 |
| kanzure | :( | 19:54 |
| joshcryer | You applied for group status a year ago?? | 19:54 |
| kanzure | well yeah | 19:54 |
| joshcryer | Dang that's an insane backlog then. | 19:54 |
| kanzure | this channel was around in 08 | 19:55 |
| joshcryer | Gotta love bureaucracy. | 19:57 |
| joshcryer | And yeah I remember coming here when there were like 5 people, and I didn't feel like community building, but now that there are over four dozen I can be a quiet member. ;P | 19:58 |
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| JayDugger | Good night all, time to commute. | 20:03 |
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| QuantumG | http://focusfusion.org/index.php/site/article/new_video_making_fusion_happen_-_repeatably/ | 21:19 |
| kanzure | i still don't know how i would do a "sketch-on-a-surface" api for lolcad | 21:35 |
| kanzure | i guess it could be a coordinate system object plus a polyline that defines the bounds of the sketch entities or something | 21:36 |
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