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| metaliving | http://multiverseaccordingtoben.blogspot.com/2010/10/turning-nauru-into-transtopia.html | 02:37 |
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| Utopiah | sounds crazy enough to be interesting :-# | 02:38 |
| Utopiah | postmodern colonization | 02:39 |
| uniqanomaly_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Sealand | 02:40 |
| uniqanomaly_ | 're-utilizing oil sea platforms' | 02:42 |
| uniqanomaly_ | $$$, $$$ and more $$$ | 02:42 |
| archels | Isn't Nauru due for annihilation because of rising water levels? | 02:50 |
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| Utopiah | (The Emerging World of ECoG Neuroprosthetics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFWnTONOvVo Eric C. Leuthardt) | 03:40 |
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| kanzure | "VHDL-AMS is a derivative of the hardware description language VHDL (IEEE standard 1076-1993). It includes analog and mixed-signal extensions (AMS) in order to define the behavior of analog and mixed-signal systems (IEEE 1076.1-1999)." | 05:26 |
| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VHDL-AMS | 05:26 |
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| JayDugger | Would you really want to move to the South Pacific? | 06:43 |
| JayDugger | And if so, have you ever visited a South Pacific Island at all? | 06:43 |
| JayDugger | (Australia doesn't count. Neither does New Zealand.) | 06:44 |
| JayDugger | (Neither does Hawaii, unless you lived there.) | 06:44 |
| JayDugger | Still, it seems an interesting idea. | 06:45 |
| JayDugger | I suspect the history of similar isolated ideological communities (Israeli kibbutz; Mormon settlements in New York, Ohio, Illinois, Missouri, Utah, Idaho, Alberta, etc.; early North American European settlements) would have useful parallels. | 06:46 |
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| Utopiah | first dot of 2010 Emerging Technologies Hype Cycle by Gartner = "Human Augmentation" http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=1447613 | 07:57 |
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| Utopiah | Publish your computer code: it is good enough http://www.nature.com/news/2010/101013/full/467753a.html | 08:32 |
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| kanzure | i don't get it: http://sadiframework.org/content/about-sadi/ | 08:42 |
| kanzure | somthing abuot w3c and bioinformatics | 08:42 |
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| dbolser | provide a high degree of semantic discoverability | 09:14 |
| dbolser | ... | 09:14 |
| dbolser | sounds corperate | 09:14 |
| dbolser | OK, at least they've heard of Taverna | 09:15 |
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| kanzure | http://groups.google.com/group/adaptive-vehicle-make-proposers-day-forum100710 | 09:29 |
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| kanzure | that last link is for DARPA/vehicleforge | 09:34 |
| kanzure | fenn: i still need to update you on what i'm thinking re: vehicleforge sometime. so whenever, either by pm or phone | 09:34 |
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| kanzure | "organism: making art with living systems" http://music.columbia.edu/organism/ | 09:46 |
| kanzure | "BioKM - Free, lightweight, portable laboratory project management and linked data infrastructure" (something about william gunn and mendeley) | 09:50 |
| kanzure | "DIYBioHeroes: | 09:50 |
| kanzure | Jonathan Eisen, Francis Collins, Ferran Adria, Hervé" | 09:51 |
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| splicer | fuck francis collins | 09:52 |
| kanzure | http://blog.xivo.fr/index.php?post/2010/10/04/Participation-to-the-OpenHardwareSummit-:-report-and-feedbacks | 10:01 |
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| Utopiah | for Ben's proposal http://www.nature.com/news/2010/101013/full/news.2010.537.html | 11:18 |
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| kanzure | hi GarethTheGreat | 11:39 |
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| kanzure | hi wrldpc2 | 16:09 |
| wrldpc2 | heya! | 16:10 |
| wrldpc2 | how goes? | 16:10 |
| kanzure | organizing humanity+ @ caltech. trying to figure out if crashspace or nullspacelabs is close enough to pasadena | 16:11 |
| QuantumG | criticism of OpenCog continues to fall on deaf ears | 16:14 |
| kanzure | heh | 16:16 |
| kanzure | i just forwarded ben's review of life extension conference to wta-talk | 16:16 |
| kanzure | http://hplusmagazine.com/editors-blog/two-days-among-immortals | 16:16 |
| kanzure | someone thought i wrote it, so i put goertzel.org and 1-240-505-6518 as my emails ig | 16:17 |
| kanzure | *email sig | 16:17 |
| QuantumG | Ben's a strange critter | 16:19 |
| kanzure | ever since humanity+ has added me to their "board of spam", er i mean, directors, mailing list, i get emails from ben in intervals of 5min | 16:19 |
| QuantumG | he says the problem with OpenCog is a lack of funding.. yes, that's why your open source project has no momentum. | 16:19 |
| kanzure | there's zero communication from humanity+ proper and wta-talk, it's really amazing how separate the worlds are even though they are the same organization | 16:20 |
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| ferrouswheel | QuantumG: as someone who no longer has involvement with the project, please stop making claims about OpenCog having "no momentum". | 17:44 |
| QuantumG | to: Ben Goertzel <bengoertzel@gmail.com> | 17:46 |
| QuantumG | subject: opencog sniping | 17:46 |
| QuantumG | It occurs to me that I'm being an asshole. Sorry. If you would like to have a more productive conversation about OpenCog, I'm here. | 17:47 |
| QuantumG | about 10 minutes ago | 17:47 |
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| epitron | hahah | 19:33 |
| epitron | if i got that email, i probably wouldn't be very motivated to talk to that person :) | 19:33 |
| epitron | it needs a hook, other than "i'm an asshole and i'm here" | 19:34 |
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| QuantumG | heh | 20:21 |
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| GarethTheGreat | QuantumG: what's your precise criticism of opencog? | 20:35 |
| GarethTheGreat | i have a few myself, mainly that it's messy - but that applies to a lot of large software projects these days | 20:36 |
| GarethTheGreat | but it definitely has strong momentum | 20:36 |
| QuantumG | umm.. probably my biggest "criticism" is that it doesn't do anything | 20:36 |
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| GarethTheGreat | QuantumG: i see...... i must have missed that one | 20:37 |
| QuantumG | I'm happy to be shown to be wrong on that one.. I'd love to know what it actually does these days.. | 20:38 |
| GarethTheGreat | QuantumG: it makes a mean reasoning engine and natural language toolkit for one | 20:39 |
| kanzure | what about nltk for a natural language toolkit | 20:39 |
| GarethTheGreat | kanzure: easier to get started with, but doesn't work as well as relex with opencog output | 20:39 |
| GarethTheGreat | relex > opencog > PLN > nlgen | 20:40 |
| QuantumG | ok, let me take those two terms you just used.. "engine" and "toolkit" .. with a car engine I can put it in a car and go places. With a wood working "toolkit" I can make a table. What's the car and the table analogue here? | 20:40 |
| GarethTheGreat | QuantumG: you can feed in a knowledge base and ask it questions | 20:40 |
| QuantumG | great, has anyone done that? is there a demo? | 20:41 |
| GarethTheGreat | cogita | 20:41 |
| GarethTheGreat | the chatbot demo | 20:41 |
| QuantumG | (remember, I haven't looked at it much in the last 2 years) | 20:41 |
| GarethTheGreat | you haven't looked at it in 2 YEARS? | 20:41 |
| QuantumG | I haven't looked at it *much* | 20:41 |
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| GarethTheGreat | QuantumG: i'm just going to drop this here: http://wiki.opencog.org/w/Embodiment | 20:42 |
| GarethTheGreat | VERY VERY messy, but it does some cool stuff (such as throwing a ball and asking it "who threw the ball?") | 20:43 |
| QuantumG | cool, thanks | 20:44 |
| GarethTheGreat | http://goertzel.org/navigation.mp4 | 20:44 |
| GarethTheGreat | i LOVE that video | 20:45 |
| GarethTheGreat | ben claims not a lot more work is needed to get the nao doing immitating learning on the Nao | 20:46 |
| GarethTheGreat | it's already there in virtual worlds | 20:46 |
| QuantumG | so is the documentation on the chatbot still accurate? cause it specifically says it is not a test of the reasoning. | 20:57 |
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| GarethTheGreat | QuantumG: last i looked, it does simple pattern matching, it's more a demo of the natural language parsing | 21:00 |
| GarethTheGreat | but there's been work on integrating reasoning | 21:00 |
| GarethTheGreat | and the natural language pipeline within embodiment is much more advanced | 21:01 |
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| kanzure | this is an interesting progress estimation strategy http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1788849 | 22:18 |
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| kanzure | PK_BODY_T | 23:41 |
| kanzure | http://doc.spatial.com/index.php/InterOp:Connect/Parasolid | 23:42 |
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