2010-11-03.log

--- Log opened Wed Nov 03 00:00:08 2010
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Utopiahalternative mobile keyboard http://www.the8pen.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3OuCR0EpGo00:32
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augur8pen is not that awesome.00:50
Utopiahah, what problems did you encounter? 00:50
augurim not even sure if its out. i just dont find it to be that awesome.00:51
augurpeople are like jizzing over the thing, and i dont find it worthy of that.00:51
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Utopiahthing is alternatives are not really satisfying00:54
auguri like keyboards.00:54
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* dbolser jizzes02:32
dbolserhow fast can ppl type on that thing?02:32
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archelsYes, we need objective data. wpm counts for mobile touchscreen keyboard, mini QWERTY and 8pen.03:27
dbolserarchels: to the challenge dome!03:35
archelsLet us go forth and, er, measure.03:35
archelsOh, and let's not forget that new QWERTY swipe system.03:36
archelsI forget what it's called.03:36
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dbolserthing is, I bet each team can bring forth a freak of nature03:37
dbolserwe need to somehow get 'modal' speeds03:37
archelsJust use a large enough test set.03:37
dbolserright03:38
dbolserbill hicks joke03:38
archelsah, shame on me for not getting that.03:39
dbolsersorry, wrong channel!03:41
* archels stares in puzzlement03:43
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augurhttp://xkcd.com/810/04:40
augurstrange as it sounds04:40
augurthis might work04:40
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dbolseraugur: they stole my idea!04:41
augur;)04:41
auguri think the necessity of commenting would be interesting04:41
auguryou must reply to a post before you can vote it up or down04:42
augurotherwise its just reddit, really04:42
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fennUtopiah: 8pen is like a bad copy of quikwriting 05:38
fennalso, why cant they just make the keyboard transparent05:39
kanzureglobalspec.com is having an online tradeshaw in plant/facilities engineering today that is starting in a few hours05:50
kanzureglobalspec/thomasnet has always been a little spammy, but i'm eager to see if they can actually attract a crowd05:50
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archelsmmm quikwriting doesn't work on my old WinCE smartphone. :(05:51
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fenni can't believe prop 19 failed06:09
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JayDuggerGood morning, everyone.07:10
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kanzure"plant & facilities engineering online event" http://vshow.on24.com/vshow/PFE08:18
kanzureoh man this is awful08:20
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fennWe recently programmed Bucket, the IRC chat bot in #xkcd, to allow people set their gender so he can use pronouns for them.  This ended up taking hundreds of lines of code, three pages of documentation, and six different sets of pronouns and variables, just to cover all the basic ways people in the channel with different gender identifications wanted to be referred to08:36
JayDuggerWas that the punchline?08:36
fenni find it amusing that the robot is a "he"08:36
JayDuggerI wonder what gender the noun robot has in German.08:38
killall-9they should add several hundred more lines of code to handle an "e"08:38
JayDuggerAndroids, masculine.08:38
JayDuggerGynoids, feminine.08:38
JayDuggerRemotely operated vehicles, as their chassis?08:39
JayDuggerDo nouns naming computer languages have genders?08:40
JayDuggerIdle speculation when I could look it up.08:41
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kanzurehaha11:15
kanzurejohn carmack on eric hunting: "Oh, if only the common people actually building things had (my) VISION!"11:16
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fenncontext?11:29
kanzurefenn: eric's latest email to om in response to "How to find time to work on rockets"11:30
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kanzureone of the guys from copenhagen suborbitals sent an email to arocket@exrocketry.net with some prose about "How to find time to work on rockets"11:30
kanzurei forwarded that to om11:30
kanzureeric replied to that, or to paul's response to that, so i sent eric's back to arocket, and john carmack got pissed :P11:31
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kanzurefenn: did you see my message a few days ago about how paul is going to be enraged with fury about the whole.. hiring a workforce for manufacturing, thing?11:33
fennno i dont really read OM anymore11:44
fennwow is my package of ballscrews really 40 pounds?11:50
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kanzurefenn: it was a pm actually12:04
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fennby golly it works https://sites.google.com/site/buttermind/12:30
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kanzurefenn: i have no idea what that is12:47
kanzuresomething about oil and butter12:47
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kanzurehttp://reactome.org/ has updated14:00
kanzurei prefer the original homepage :(14:00
kanzurethat was via Robin Haw <Robin.Haw@oicr.on.ca>14:00
kanzurehttp://www.socal-diybio.org/Inventory#Equipment14:06
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fennthe basic idea is to confirm seth roberts' observation that butter improves his speed at doing simple math problems14:28
fenni get the same time and improvement as others in the study, ~1500 without butter and ~1100 with 14:28
kanzurelecthin again?14:32
kanzureor was that me14:32
archelsWhat's the hypothesised mechanism of action?14:34
kanzuremagic!14:35
kanzuredunno14:35
* kanzure looks for his notes14:36
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fennarchels: there's no hypothesis14:53
archelsfenn: My high school biology teacher would be outraged.14:55
fennby what, normal people doing science?15:00
fennwell, for some definition of normal15:01
kanzurethis isn't really a "determine the mechanism of action" study15:05
fenni was taking lecithin along with piracetam, seemed to help reduce the weird feeling you get15:22
archelsnight15:27
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kanzurehi CryptoQuick, jmil 18:01
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CryptoQuickkanzure, sup, broski18:06
CryptoQuickbeen a while, yo :V18:07
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kanzurehttp://bildr.org/ has content up now18:42
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QuantumGdoes anyone have an opinion on climate change?18:43
mjrmy opinion is that it's probably not an X-risk so I don't care much18:44
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QuantumGsounds similar to my opinion.. I've yet to read anything that makes me care.18:45
QuantumGfor example, the most forthright worst case scenario I have read suggests that by the end of the century, Nevada will be drier, Florida will be wetter, and Canada will actually be tolerable in winter.18:45
QuantumGmost other accounts just say "we don't know enough to predict the future... but it's gunna be bad!!"18:46
QuantumGbut in more words :)18:46
CryptoQuickclimate change is a liberal myth, so they can push their agenda of spending your tax dollars and grow big government. they want to put a tax on air, I tell ya! during a recession!!18:46
kanzureegeste: are you around?18:48
mjrwell, it's gonna suck here in Finland if the Golf stream gets compromised, but in the grand scheme of things, meh18:49
CryptoQuickthe people know that, too, speaking to that little thing called an election we have every other year or so; now that the right party is in charge, we can obstruct that liberal agenda, break obama, it'll be his waterloo! no energy bill, no big spending, no made-up climate change doomsday myths!18:50
QuantumGare there any made-up climate change doomsday myths?  I can't actually find any.18:50
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QuantumGas I said, it's either incredibly mundane stuff that might not even be so bad, or it's argument-from-ignorance let's-not-find-out handwaiving.18:51
kanzure"We also have great giveaways and competition prizes coming up from Seed Studio, Protostack, Ponoko, and ogi lumen."18:51
CryptoQuickQuantumG, yeah, I saw one in 1997 or so, it had kevin costner in it18:53
QuantumGhehe.. and The Day After Tomorrow18:53
QuantumGI was talking about serious accounts.  It'd be great to have a policy maker on record parroting doomsayings from the movies.. but none of them do.18:54
CryptoQuickit's because all those sycophants in congress are too scared to stand up to the democrats-- we need some new blood in washington! I'll bet Palin, O'Donnell, Angle, and Joe Miller would have a thing or two to say about that!18:55
CryptoQuickoh wait18:55
QuantumGbtw, if you're trying to be ironic, you're not doing it right.18:56
CryptoQuickoh?18:56
QuantumGyeah, there's too many people around who talk just like that for anyone to know you're not one of them.18:57
kanzurefenn: eric michaud is in town and wants a place to stay18:57
kanzurefenn: something about agoranet. do you remember that project? because i don't :(18:58
CryptoQuickQuantumG, hey, everyone's allowed to have a little bit of Tea Party in 'em18:58
CryptoQuickhell, I'm having a tea party right now18:58
CryptoQuickin my pants18:58
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fennwho? what?19:11
kanzurehm maybe it's not importatn19:12
kanzureagora net? something.. sneakers.. researchlink.. thing19:12
kanzurehttp://agoralink.org/19:12
fenn"a new type of marketplace for ideas" :(19:13
kanzurei think he's the type that sounds more coherent over the phone19:14
kanzuresomething about a $100k hackerspace prize fund for an SMT machine19:14
fennit's quite probable that i would be excited if i werent about to go to bed19:15
fennbut right now i dont really care19:15
kanzureno, i was just wondering if you knew the name19:15
CryptoQuickisn't SMT kinda not as good as the stuff RepRap uses, though? I mean, it's not even real plastic19:15
kanzureor knew something that i didn't that i would if i was more observant19:15
fenntell him to talk to lxpk at empowerthyself.org (that's an email addy) 19:16
kanzurealex peake?19:16
fenner, empowerthyself.com19:17
fennhe's into all that greek stuff19:17
fennhah19:17
kanzurehttp://www.primerlabs.com/ ?19:17
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jmilhey Bryan!19:30
jmiloh you fixed http://heybryan.org/ yay!19:31
kanzureyep19:31
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kanzuremore legal confusion coming from OCC S.A.S http://www.opencascade.org/org/forum/thread_19423/22:15
kanzure(i just posted a reply)22:15
kanzurei wonder if i could convince ted hall (shopbot) to buy opencascade (the company)22:20
kanzureBiopunk: Kitchen-Counter Scientists Hack the Software of Life by22:30
kanzureMarcus Wohlsen http://amzn.to/auldXD22:30
kanzurehttp://www.amazon.com/Biopunk-Kitchen-Counter-Scientists-Hack-Software/dp/161723002222:30
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