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| kanzure | holy hell look at the spam https://twitter.com/meidesign | 07:02 |
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| kanzure | oh it's an anagram for charles | 07:59 |
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| archels | yes! | 08:16 |
| archels | :) | 08:16 |
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| kanzure | hi Nebososo | 08:28 |
| Nebososo | hi | 08:33 |
| kanzure | what's up? | 08:37 |
| Nebososo | Trying to find out more about emotiv EPOC on Linux :p. | 08:39 |
| archels | no battery meter for you! | 08:42 |
| archels | (afaik. Daeken?) | 08:42 |
| kanzure | Nebososo: lookup 'emokit' on github | 08:51 |
| Nebososo | I will, thanks, kanzure | 08:51 |
| archels | oh, sorry, I thought that was understood. | 09:00 |
| archels | also #emokit, but it has been rather dead. | 09:00 |
| Nebososo | I'll see what I can find, archels. | 09:02 |
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| charl | ack | 09:07 |
| charl | Freenode is doing funny stuff. | 09:07 |
| charl | < archels> Nebososo: Essentially, Daeken hacked the encryption, and someone named skadge laid the beginnings of a library. It's not very plug-and-play, but I think you can at least access the raw sensor data. | 09:07 |
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| kanzure | "hacked the encryption" -> actually, just found the encryption key | 09:08 |
| archels | Well, reverse engineered it. | 09:08 |
| Nebososo | Interesting enough... | 09:09 |
| Nebososo | I have to go now, thanks for the general directions, everyone. | 09:17 |
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| kanzure | alternative 23andme code: 8YGK7C | 09:22 |
| kanzure | i think they got overloaded | 09:22 |
| kanzure | hm.. http://www.using-hydrogen-peroxide.com/hydrogen-peroxide-as-mouthwash.html | 09:25 |
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| kanzure | hackerspacesg is confusing.. is "Wong Meng Weng" the same person as "Meng Weng Wong"? | 09:37 |
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| kanzure | http://groups.google.com/group/nanoengineer-dev | 10:58 |
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| ybit | hrm | 11:08 |
| ybit | i bought the kit | 11:09 |
| ybit | some secret agency somewhere will now develop a virus to attack my genetic deficiencies ;) | 11:09 |
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| archels | How much of the genome do they sequence, anyway? | 11:23 |
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| kanzure | archels: they aren't sequencing the genome really | 11:34 |
| kanzure | they are using illumina plates/array to do dna hybridization tests to figure out which SNP you have at a particular location (rs id number) | 11:35 |
| kanzure | wait, are they doing dna hybridization? or something else | 11:36 |
| archels | rs being? | 11:42 |
| kanzure | all of the chromosome locations for snps are recorded with an rs id number | 11:43 |
| kanzure | which you'll see in datasets like dbSNP from NCBI | 11:43 |
| kanzure | i forget what it stands for | 11:44 |
| kanzure | hackerspaces hackathon for membership management http://blog.hackerspaces.org/2010/11/22/announcing-the-opendoor-hackathon/ | 11:46 |
| archels | aha | 11:46 |
| archels | So how many SNPs do they scan for? | 11:46 |
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| archels | kanzure: Looks like DNA chips. | 11:53 |
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| archels | kanzure: Seen http://www.illumina.com/documents/products/datasheets/datasheet_infiniumhd.pdf ? | 13:03 |
| kanzure | iirc 23andme scans for about 1000 SNPs? | 13:06 |
| archels | I'm not sure | 13:07 |
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| kanzure | hi infomorph. | 13:25 |
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| kanzure | hi QuantumG, hi r0y | 14:09 |
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| QuantumG | hey | 14:12 |
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| kanzure | sarrus linkage http://blog.makerbot.com/2009/12/12/beautiful-makerbot-printable-sarrus-linkage/ | 14:45 |
| Noahj | that's awesome! | 14:50 |
| Noahj | I'm still always put off by how many steel parts are in things like that | 14:50 |
| Noahj | but it's getting better | 14:51 |
| Noahj | erm, I think that "always" was unnecessary | 14:51 |
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| kanzure | via lee nelson re: ne-1 | 16:38 |
| kanzure | http://machine-phase.blogspot.com/ | 16:38 |
| qgqg | saw that | 16:39 |
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| kanzure | QuantumG: did you also see http://diyhpl.us/cgit/nanoengineer | 16:39 |
| QuantumG | cool. | 16:40 |
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| kanzure | what? http://www.somewhereville.com/blognano/dgallis_nanogallery_16_large.jpg | 17:48 |
| kanzure | that was from http://www.somewhereville.com/?page_id=10 | 17:48 |
| kanzure | gears http://www.somewhereville.com/blognano/dgallis_nanogallery_14_large.jpg | 17:49 |
| kanzure | well more like "spinning disc things" | 17:49 |
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| QuantumG | stuff you can't build but can happily design | 18:04 |
| kanzure | heh | 18:09 |
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| QuantumG | ya need to design two parts that fit together, and only fit together if they are both "perfect".. and when they're combined they're big enough or have some sticky property that allow them to be separated from a sea of malformed parts. | 18:12 |
| QuantumG | I believe this is called "chemical engineering" | 18:12 |
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| kanzure | well, more specifically, it's the sub-discipline of self-assembly and nanoscience | 18:15 |
| kanzure | (seriously, "self-assembly" is googleable) | 18:16 |
| QuantumG | the selection process is the point I was making | 18:16 |
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| memorex | kanzure: any idea where i can find free online books for download | 18:30 |
| memorex | im having some trouble | 18:30 |
| QuantumG | http://free-books.dontexist.com/ | 18:32 |
| memorex | thank you | 18:32 |
| kanzure | heh. also gigapedia, but free-books.dontexist.com (libgenesis) is what i would suggest | 18:36 |
| memorex | yeah it didnt pull up what i wanted | 18:39 |
| QuantumG | you often won't find what you want on that site.. but if you look, you might find what you need. | 18:39 |
| superkuh | gigapedia registration is closed again. | 18:40 |
| memorex | fuuuu | 18:40 |
| memorex | im looking for children science fiction books for my cousin | 18:41 |
| memorex | its his birthday and I am getting him a kindle and im going to put some books he would like on there | 18:41 |
| kanzure | oh there's a torrent of 14,000+ scifi books out there | 18:41 |
| memorex | yeah I think I should try and find it | 18:42 |
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| kanzure | hi fitzsim | 18:50 |
| fitzsim | hi kanzure | 18:50 |
| kanzure | logs: http://gnusha.org/logs/ | 18:51 |
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| kanzure | hi JayDugger1 | 18:53 |
| fitzsim | does Lee hang out here too? | 18:53 |
| JayDugger1 | Good evening, all. | 18:53 |
| fitzsim | kanzure: just wanted to let you know about some NE-1 patches you may find useful | 18:54 |
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| fitzsim | kanzure: there are a bunch of patches for building against up-to-date versions of dependencies in http://fitzsim.org/packages/NanoEngineer-1-1.1.1.12-0.3.fc12.src.rpm | 18:56 |
| fitzsim | kanzure: are you working on a Red Hat-based distribution? | 18:56 |
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| JayDugger1 | The 23andMe discount code "48DRPU" definitely works. | 19:04 |
| JayDugger1 | I just used it to buy my girlfriend's Christmas present. | 19:04 |
| JayDugger1 | As of today, I can yet download my raw data from 23andMe. | 19:04 |
| JayDugger1 | By 01 January at the latest, I should know whether the current promotion permits the download of raw data. | 19:05 |
| JayDugger1 | The promotion requires a 12-month, auto-renewing, subscription to their update service. | 19:07 |
| kanzure | fitzsim: i'm on debian | 19:07 |
| JayDugger1 | This costs $60/year. | 19:07 |
| kanzure | fitzsim: where did the patches in that .rpm come from? | 19:08 |
| kanzure | fitzsim: lee sometimes hangs out here.. not lately though | 19:08 |
| kanzure | fitzsim: i have some funny stories about lee :) sometimes the simplest solutions tend to elude him | 19:08 |
| kanzure | heh: http://google.com/search?q=technologiclee+nanoengineer | 19:09 |
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| fitzsim | kanzure: I wrote the patches as part of getting NE-1 building on Fedora 13 | 19:18 |
| fitzsim | kanzure: if you want to extract them on Debian you can use: rpm2cpio | cpio -idv | 19:19 |
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| kanzure | fitzsim: i'll take a look | 19:25 |
| kanzure | debian notes: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/nanoengineer/compile_nanoengineer | 19:27 |
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| kanzure | lee's notes: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/nanoengineer/NE1InstallScriptFragment | 19:29 |
| kanzure | Redeemer: i sent you an email re: hotels | 19:30 |
| kanzure | fitzsim: i'm not familiar with the rpm format but is there a set of .diff files in there somewhere? | 19:31 |
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| kanzure | jrayhawk: you wouldn't happen to also be a redhat fanatic would you | 19:32 |
| kanzure | peculiar reply to my ne-1 announcement http://groups.google.com/group/openmanufacturing/msg/501d9f84ecd95f56 someone's really using this on a daily basis? | 19:35 |
| kanzure | i don't see how stl files would help for anything on the order of 100k+ atoms | 19:37 |
| QuantumG | you should reply with "patches welcome" | 19:37 |
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| fitzsim | kanzure: yeah, a .src.rpm file contains the spec file which has build and installation rules, the original source tarball, and a bunch of .patch files that are applied during the RPM build process | 19:39 |
| fitzsim | kanzure: are you able to apt-get install rpm2cpio? | 19:39 |
| kanzure | it was already installed (stuff like this happens often) | 19:40 |
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| fitzsim | kanzure: are you able to extract the patch set? | 19:42 |
| kanzure | was that what it is? i just saw lots of binary data flash before my eyes | 19:42 |
| fitzsim | you have to pipe the output to cpio | 19:43 |
| kanzure | oh i wonder why i didn't see the files | 19:43 |
| kanzure | ok i see cpio created the files | 19:43 |
| fitzsim | have a look at NanoEngineer-1.spec | 19:43 |
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| kanzure | ok i see | 19:44 |
| kanzure | patch10 and patch11 are things that were updated recently in the upstream repo actually | 19:44 |
| kanzure | wait did you submit all of these to them? | 19:44 |
| fitzsim | no | 19:44 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/cgit/nanoengineer/log | 19:44 |
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| kanzure | check out the 2009-07-10 commit, which seems to be related to patch10 and patch11 in NanoEngineer-1.spec | 19:45 |
| kanzure | uh in particular commit 21619af5d41eec4436619a7a05cfe42989cc4dc9 | 19:45 |
| kanzure | ok so i guess these were never included | 19:45 |
| fitzsim | yeah, that's just a small language change for newer versions of Python, I'm not suprised the patches would be similar | 19:46 |
| kanzure | there's a quickly growing and phantom todo list for ne-1 | 19:46 |
| kanzure | first there's server infrastructure stuff like snapshots/package building/releases, then epydoc, pylint, etc. | 19:47 |
| kanzure | then actually getting the packages to build and uh, work | 19:47 |
| kanzure | i'm p. sure there's some auto-deb/rpm packaging scripts in there somewhere | 19:48 |
| fitzsim | are you working on making the Nanorex Bugzilla public? | 19:48 |
| kanzure | yeah, they were hosting it somewhere private and either the hosting company will send me a backup or i'll write a spider and convert it to something that doesn't suck | 19:49 |
| kanzure | i'd really like to use http://bugseverywhere.org/ but it's not quite stable yet :( (keeps bug state in the git repo under .be/) | 19:49 |
| kanzure | likewise for their mediawiki installation.. http://diyhpl.us/nanoengineer is actually an ikiwiki created out of nanoengineer.git | 19:50 |
| kanzure | i'm not sure if mark will go for migrating the mediawiki content to ikiwiki or not | 19:50 |
| kanzure | but i really like the idea of keeping everything under nanoengineer.git | 19:50 |
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| fitzsim | kanzure: neat, I've wanted something like bugseverywhere.org ever since Monotone was released | 19:55 |
| kanzure | unfortunately the BE developers don't believe in release versioning or stable releases or something :( | 19:55 |
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| fitzsim | hmm, well hopefully the idea will catch on anyway | 19:57 |
| fitzsim | in the meantime, yeah, running a Bugzilla server isn't trivial I've been told | 19:57 |
| pasky | if you like distributed bugtracking, you might find fossil interesting | 19:57 |
| kanzure | http://fossil-scm.org/ right | 19:58 |
| QuantumG | running a bugzilla server is trivial | 19:58 |
| kanzure | i'm not sure bugzilla is a good idea in general, sysadmin nonsense aside | 19:59 |
| QuantumG | we use trac at work.. combined wiki/bug tracker.. it's more simple than bugzilla | 19:59 |
| QuantumG | integrates with revision control, etc | 20:00 |
| kanzure | fitzsim: http://ikiwiki.info/ | 20:00 |
| kanzure | fitzsim: for some of the repos on diyhpl.us, when you push new commits, the post-update hooks fire and ikiwiki rebuilds the relevant pages | 20:00 |
| kanzure | i'm not a big fan of mediawiki or wikis that decided to totally ignore version control systems | 20:01 |
| fitzsim | nice | 20:01 |
| pasky | if BE's first bulletpoint is not way oversimplified, i think it's really misguided; imho bugs and content should not live at a single branch even though it's tempting as immediate idea - you get into immense headaches since you _will_ find that you should really make changes to some bugs way too late after all the commits are pushed out etc.; fossil seems much more sensible in this regard, but then again, i like git | 20:01 |
| kanzure | pasky: if you need to change a bug then you should commit your change | 20:02 |
| kanzure | this way bugs have revisions stored too | 20:03 |
| kanzure | fenn: are you alive | 20:03 |
| fitzsim | kanzure: are you administering diyhpl.us? | 20:05 |
| kanzure | fitzsim: yes. jrayhawk is also a meta-sysadmin i guess | 20:05 |
| kanzure | other projects: http://diyhpl.us/cgit/ | 20:06 |
| kanzure | the reprap repos are kind of cluttering up the screen at the moment but i'll fix that soon | 20:06 |
| kanzure | other items of interest are skdb.git (apt-get for hardware) and meetlog.git | 20:06 |
| kanzure | also lolcad.git | 20:07 |
| fitzsim | kanzure: so whatever you use as a bug tracker will be hosted there too? | 20:08 |
| kanzure | right | 20:08 |
| kanzure | that's the idea | 20:08 |
| fitzsim | makes sense | 20:08 |
| kanzure | diyhpluswiki.git is a good example of ikiwiki integration.. http://diyhpl.us/wiki is the html-generated output | 20:09 |
| kanzure | haha jrayhawk edited my realtime typing typos (i haven't looked at recentchanges in a while) | 20:09 |
| jrayhawk | they made things hard to read :mad: | 20:15 |
| kanzure | well, yes :( | 20:20 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: can you play the role of piny public relations | 20:20 |
| kanzure | also suggestions for what to do with all these patches from fitzsim's rpm would be hot | 20:20 |
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| jrayhawk | bleargh. i should write a useful introduction | 20:26 |
| fitzsim | kanzure: have you successfully built NE-1 yet? | 20:27 |
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| kanzure | fitzsim: a while back, not in the last month.. guess i should get around to that :) | 20:34 |
| fitzsim | kanzure: ok, I would just use my patches as a guide for when the build gets stuck | 20:34 |
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| kanzure | alright mark! :) http://groups.google.com/group/nanoengineer-dev/msg/e407189995727a31 | 20:40 |
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| kanzure | stalk: yohko hatada | 21:04 |
| kanzure | hm http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/yohko-hatada/b/806/ab1 | 21:05 |
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| kanzure | hi Ian_Daniher | 21:09 |
| kanzure | so, generating/rendering BOMs for electronics projects | 21:09 |
| Ian_Daniher | hey kanzure | 21:09 |
| kanzure | parse schematic file -> get out BOM ? | 21:09 |
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| Ian_Daniher | me: know what would be awesome, and slightly related to SKDB? | 21:09 |
| Ian_Daniher | an electronics bill of materials creator | 21:10 |
| Ian_Daniher | that a) worked with GIT Bryan: agreed. me: and b) plugged in with findchips and friends to figure out the best suppliers and the best pricepoints | 21:10 |
| kanzure | what's findchips? i'm more familiar with octopart and digikey | 21:10 |
| kanzure | octopart is a search engine on top of electronics datasheets that has slightly parameterized data | 21:10 |
| Ian_Daniher | findchips is an aggregator like octopart | 21:10 |
| Ian_Daniher | it's simpler | 21:10 |
| kanzure | uh. okay. | 21:10 |
| kanzure | simpler interface? | 21:10 |
| kanzure | btw i have octopart.py in skdb.git somewhere | 21:10 |
| kanzure | i was using the octopart api but i don't know where i was going with it | 21:11 |
| kanzure | basically people have to write down what parts they are using.. i don't see a way around this | 21:11 |
| kanzure | now, most people use spreadsheets, so a spreadsheet-to-bom is doable, but i don't see how a BOM is much different from a spreadsheet? | 21:11 |
| Ian_Daniher | it's not, really | 21:11 |
| Ian_Daniher | most people I know use google docs for BOMs | 21:11 |
| Ian_Daniher | or vendor-specific tools | 21:11 |
| kanzure | you mean a spreadsheet on google docs? | 21:11 |
| Ian_Daniher | yup | 21:12 |
| Ian_Daniher | anyway, vendor-specific tools are great for larger companies, but one of the advantages of being a startup is that you're supposed to be nimble | 21:12 |
| kanzure | basically people have to write down what parts they are using.. i don't see a way around this | 21:12 |
| kanzure | elevenarms (who comes around every once in a while in here) wrote some javascript where users can browse to a vendor's site and then import the product into a BOM back on another window/page | 21:13 |
| Ian_Daniher | and a FOSS BOM manager which constantly checked pricepoint of supplies at various quantities and various vendors would be awesome | 21:13 |
| kanzure | what does a BOM manager do | 21:13 |
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| fenn | it retweets deal alerts~ | 21:16 |
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| Ian_Daniher | kanzure: keeps your BOM in order, shares it with other people, etc | 21:17 |
| kanzure | what | 21:18 |
| fenn | anyone have access to this article? http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract;jsessionid=5DC616A3740BFE7B23C25262F2502723.tomcat1?fromPage=online&aid=1816720 | 21:18 |
| kanzure | this doesn't sound BOM specific really | 21:18 |
| fenn | i had a BOM on google docs recently, it was somewhat painful | 21:19 |
| fenn | much rather just put a .csv in git | 21:19 |
| kanzure | fenn: http://groups.google.com/group/getarticles but they will post the pdf to scribd instead of somewhere convenient | 21:19 |
| fenn | although some way to specify structured dependencies (order this AND this else that) | 21:19 |
| kanzure | i think .csv is a pretty good structure | 21:19 |
| Ian_Daniher | agreed | 21:20 |
| kanzure | i don't see complicated abstract logic trees in BOMs often | 21:20 |
| Ian_Daniher | but it's a pain to manually track down vendors | 21:20 |
| kanzure | well either you've built it and know what to buy or you don't | 21:20 |
| fenn | why scribd? | 21:20 |
| kanzure | http://octopart.com/somehow_buy?vendor=atmel&chip_id=54091491410 | 21:20 |
| Ian_Daniher | that doesn't account for the high price volatility of silicon components | 21:20 |
| fenn | can i just request that they not do that? | 21:20 |
| kanzure | fenn: sure try asking | 21:21 |
| kanzure | fenn: i dunno why they like scribd so much anyway | 21:21 |
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| fenn | heh the requester is already on getarticles | 21:21 |
| Ian_Daniher | kanzure: that'd be cool, yeah | 21:21 |
| kanzure | mostly getarticles is cory tobin and rss-wunderkid aaron swartz | 21:21 |
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| memorex | FUUUUCK | 21:22 |
| memorex | DAMN YOU BOOKS | 21:22 |
| kanzure | Ian_Daniher: there's two ways i can see that going down | 21:22 |
| kanzure | Ian_Daniher: one, a company that specifically takes in a BOM and somehow magically handles an optimization of what to order and from where | 21:22 |
| kanzure | and then slowly replaces "order from multiple vendors" with their own deals as they can manage it | 21:22 |
| kanzure | two, skip the company part and just write a web scraper/spider that can submit forms on multiple vendor websites | 21:22 |
| Ian_Daniher | two would be neat | 21:23 |
| kanzure | i.e. "buy part xyz from sparkfun" -> it goes off and fills out the form and buys it for you from sparkfun.com | 21:23 |
| Ian_Daniher | mhm | 21:23 |
| kanzure | the problem is that writing scrapers/form parsers like that isn't really scalabe, fun, or elegant | 21:23 |
| fenn | 'from sparkfun' kinda makes it pointless though? | 21:23 |
| kanzure | presumably edic or ebxml was supposed to solve that but they all got caught up in SOAP and B2B masturbation | 21:23 |
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| kanzure | fenn: bad example. i think "from digikey" is also pointless? | 21:23 |
| fenn | yes, the idea is to specify as little as possible | 21:24 |
| kanzure | oh i thought you meant that sparkfun is already an aggregator (not an oem) | 21:24 |
| kanzure | well sure | 21:24 |
| fenn | or rather, as loose as possible (not quite the same thing) | 21:24 |
| kanzure | but i mean once it finds out that it wants to use sparkfun, to have the interfaces to go do that | 21:24 |
| kanzure | now, it would be spectacularly cool to convince sparkfun (et al.) to use our super-spectacular server protocol | 21:24 |
| kanzure | but that won't happen | 21:24 |
| kanzure | (as it turns out, elevenarms has sparkfun contacts) | 21:25 |
| fenn | meh, just making a plan would be a huge step for me | 21:25 |
| kanzure | "1. buy this from these goons" ? | 21:25 |
| fenn | "2. ???" | 21:25 |
| kanzure | huh? | 21:25 |
| kanzure | wait and pray they didn't fuck up your order | 21:25 |
| fenn | http://memegenerator.net/ | 21:26 |
| kanzure | wow mark just got the ne-1 bugzilla backup | 21:26 |
| kanzure | i did not expect codesion to actually give him a backup of it | 21:26 |
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| fenn | bugzilla is useful data yes/no/maybe? | 21:28 |
| kanzure | thousands of bug reports for ne-1 | 21:28 |
| kanzure | he was paying for it to be hosted somewhere O_o so i figure i should put a stop to that | 21:29 |
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| kanzure | fenn: have you clicked around in nanoengineer.git yet? http://diyhpl.us/cgit/nanoengineer/tree/tags/cad/ | 21:33 |
| kanzure | also http://groups.google.com/group/nanoengineer-dev even if you'll never read it | 21:34 |
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| * fenn makes a note in his irclogs | 21:38 | |
| kanzure | for pretties: http://nanoengineer-1.com/content/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=40&Itemid=50 | 21:40 |
| kanzure | http://www.somewhereville.com/?page_id=10 | 21:40 |
| kanzure | apparently mark was the one who funded the "nanofactory animation" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqyZ9bFl_qg | 21:41 |
| kanzure | fenn: i was also hoping you'd have some clever snark about http://diyhpl.us/cgit/meetlog/log/ | 21:54 |
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| kanzure | oops sorry i must have had a brainlapse.. i recall your snarks from the other day actually | 21:55 |
| fenn | nice dna poster | 21:56 |
| fenn | (somewhereville) | 21:56 |
| kanzure | yeah i didn't know about nanorex/paul rothemund | 21:57 |
| fenn | huh? | 21:57 |
| kanzure | all this structural DNA origami stuff that nanorex/ne-1 is talking about? | 21:57 |
| fenn | i bet i could prove otherwise, but i'm too lazy to do so | 21:57 |
| kanzure | mark paid paul to go do some dna origami stuff with ne-1 in winfree's lab | 21:57 |
| kanzure | cite: bottom of http://www.nanoengineer-1.com/content/ | 21:58 |
| fenn | i think it's funny that your journal consists entirely of git commit messages | 21:58 |
| kanzure | "After learning about our plans to develop a DNAO module for NE1, Dr. Rothemund invited me and my daughter to visit the Winfree Lab at Caltech to learn about scaffolded DNA origami first hand" | 21:58 |
| kanzure | "He wanted to share the experience of designing, fabricating and imaging our own design. We jumped at the opportunity and soon after we arrived on campus to begin working with Paul. My daughter and I kept a detailed journal of what we did and published it (with photos) on the NE1 wiki" | 21:58 |
| kanzure | oh fooey winfree offered me a job a few years ago.. i should stop by his lab while i'm on campus next month shouldn't i :x | 21:59 |
| fenn | yeah that's been on the nanorex site as long as i've been aware of it | 21:59 |
| kanzure | huh? you said "but i'm too lazy to do so" | 21:59 |
| kanzure | er i should have quoted "i bet i could prove otherwise" | 21:59 |
| fenn | i mean i could probably find some instance of you talking about nanorex/rothemund | 22:00 |
| fenn | blarg anyway | 22:00 |
| * fenn grumbles about slow milling machines | 22:00 | |
| kanzure | no my knowledge of nanorex has been recent mostly | 22:00 |
| kanzure | i'm a little surprised that the first public release of ne1 was 2008 though | 22:01 |
| kanzure | weren't you blabbing about it earlier than that? | 22:01 |
| fenn | weird, they wanted to put advertising in ne-1 | 22:02 |
| kanzure | oh dear mark is trying to explain git http://www.nanoengineer-1.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Checking_out_NE1_source_code_from_the_repository | 22:03 |
| fenn | 2008-04-04.log:08:28 < fenn> did you see this? http://www.nanoengineer-1.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=DNA_Origami_-_Creating_the_Nanorex_logo | 22:03 |
| kanzure | step 4 looks all wrong | 22:03 |
| kanzure | well at least he's recommending pep8 | 22:04 |
| kanzure | fenn: further evidence that i'm just going in circles | 22:08 |
| fenn | heh we were just discussing making a molecule construction set just like this yesterday http://www.flickr.com/photos/tweakie-cnc/3430399771/ | 22:10 |
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| kanzure | ping pong balls and toothpicks not good enough for you? haha | 22:11 |
| kanzure | bugzilla db http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/nanoengineer/polosims-mysql.dump.gz | 22:21 |
| kanzure | now what should i do with it | 22:21 |
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| kanzure | mayko: so you need a gear riggup for your spectrophotometer? | 22:24 |
| mayko | that's the plan | 22:25 |
| mayko | fortunately there is a half cannibalized VCR in the closet mwa hahah | 22:25 |
| kanzure | http://topologicoceans.wordpress.com/2010/11/25/diy-spectro/ | 23:04 |
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