2010-12-22.log

--- Log opened Wed Dec 22 00:00:04 2010
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archelsfive kanzures?!03:07
archelsWhat will happen to our single hashed counterpart? Some sort of auto-redirect, or a +m so that it can no longer be used?03:08
archelsOh, it *is* +m. Good.03:10
kanzureand it is iredirecting.03:25
kanzure*redirecting. apparently i need more sleep03:25
archelsexcellent03:30
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epithettoo many kanzures04:15
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strageswtf07:25
archelswelcome07:39
strageswhat happened to #hplusroadmap and why can't I get in it?07:41
kanzurewe've moved.07:41
strageswhy?07:41
kanzurein order to better serve our customers.07:41
archelsstrages: looky, we have a topic!!07:41
strageshow is adding a character to the channel location better serving customers07:42
kanzurewe now have ops07:42
klafkawhere id we move to?07:43
klafka##hplusroadmap instead of #hplusroadmap?07:43
kanzureyes07:43
kanzure#hplusroadmap redirects here.07:43
stragesah07:43
klafkathe ##hplusroadmap means it's an unofficial channgel strages07:43
klafkaif a name has an official counterpart then the #name version is reserved for hte "official" channel07:43
kanzureor it means the freenode staff member was too lazy to fix #hplusroadmap so he closed it instead07:43
stragesyeah I knew about that practice07:43
klafkaahahaha07:44
kanzurehttp://gnusha.org/logs/2010-12-21.log07:44
killall-9at least it's not &hplusroadmap07:44
kanzurehttp://gnusha.org/logs/2010-12-22.log07:44
kanzurein case you missed anything relevant (you haven't)07:44
stragesI started #hackerspaces and #makerslocal, my local hackerspace's channel.  Never received any complaints from freenode admins07:45
kanzureyes but you have official equivalents for both07:45
kanzurethe hplusroadmap site died sometime in 200707:45
stragesoh07:45
klafkalol07:46
stragesalright, I undestand now07:46
klafkayeah we had to fight with them over #bioinformatics for awhile07:46
stragesforgive me, but what is bioinformatics07:49
stragesI have a couple of friends that work for Hudson Alpha down here, that do that07:49
stragesor I should say at Hudson Alpha07:50
kanzure#bioinformatics: where ponies and probabilistic models are awesome :: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5k_pdb22ZJA/SpyRZ1Zi8UI/AAAAAAAAAIs/GGzauEoWYa4/s400/deal_with_it.gif07:50
kanzurestrages: bioinformatics is basically all the computer people dealing with the massive amounts of data coming in from DNA sequencers and crystallography runs07:50
stragesah ok07:51
strageswe're thinking about getting an openpcr setup in the next 3-5 months07:51
kanzureyou should just build your own pcr machine07:51
kanzureopenpcr isn't too spectacular :( or open07:51
stragesoh07:52
stragesgot any links toward getting started on one?07:52
kanzuretoo many.. http://openwetware.org/wiki/DIYbio/Projects07:52
kanzureoops bad link07:52
kanzuretry this instead: http://openwetware.org/wiki/DIYbio/FAQ/Projects07:52
kanzurehmm thermocyclers aren't listed there?07:53
kanzurewell. google around for DIY thermocyclers.. there's tons that cost less than $3007:53
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kanzurehi fitzsim08:08
kanzureyou see the committs?08:08
kanzurecommits08:08
fitzsimyeah, thanks for doing them08:14
fitzsimI tried building the result on F-1308:14
fitzsimI got a lot farther than before they were checked in but the build failed eventually with a failure I hadn't seen before08:14
fitzsimnewtables.c:1051: error: ‘RCSID_BENDS_H’ undeclared here (not in a function)08:15
fitzsimnewtables.c:1052: error: ‘RCSID_BONDS_H’ undeclared here (not in a function)08:15
klafkahey can anyone get this article ? http://www.springerlink.com/content/yv7t1r50507133l4/08:19
kanzureklafka i can in 30min08:31
klafkasweet08:31
kanzureactually i should make a bot08:32
klafkai mentioned this before i think08:33
kanzurefitzim yeah please post a reprt to nanoengineer-dev08:33
kanzureand bug me to deploy the bug tracker :x08:34
fitzsimkanzure: http://pastebin.com/hcZtmj0r08:34
fitzsimkanzure: that fixes it08:34
fitzsimkanzure: and the build completes now, neat08:34
fitzsimkanzure: looks like cad/src/Makefile and sim/src/Makefile are checked in then overwritten by bootstrap?08:35
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delinquentmeHI KANZURE!08:51
delinquentmeall of you!08:51
kanzureklafka: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/Prooxidant%20and%20cytotoxic%20action%20of%20N-acetylcysteine%20and%20glutathione%20in%20combinations%20with%20vitamin%20B12b.pdf09:08
kanzurebiotech for the masses (another genspace article) http://motherboard.tv/2010/12/22/biotech-for-the-masses09:09
kanzurehttp://openpcr.org/2010/12/openpcr-at-the-grenswerk-art-festival-enschede-the-netherlands/09:12
kanzurefitzsim: huh? you mean those makefiles are re-generated?09:16
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kanzureklafka: do you remember my reasoning for why i didn't make a paperbot before09:43
klafkait was buggy and hard?09:43
kanzurei probably had a good reason if we explicitly talked about this09:43
kanzurehaha well yes09:43
kanzureeveryone says thy like the idea of pyscholar but nobody contributes09:43
kanzureor fixes my horrible architecture09:43
kanzurehttp://github.com/kanzure/pyscholar09:43
klafkahaha09:43
klafkayeah that's probably the problem no one wants to contribute09:44
klafkai'll thikn about doing it over this break09:44
kanzurehuh? i'm sure people would love to solve this overall09:44
kanzurezotero is clearly an example of people solving it09:44
kanzureit's just they are doing it all wrong and are making it tied into firefox09:44
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klafkahaha09:50
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fitzsimkanzure: yeah, cad/src/Makefile and sim/src/Makefile are overwritten by configure09:57
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mheldsince when did this room become invite-only?11:05
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kanzuremheld: it's not11:15
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mheldkanzure: why do I keep getting molested with a notice saying #hplusroadmap is an invite-only chatroom11:19
mheld?11:19
kanzureit should be redirecting you here when you /join it11:20
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kanzure__like that :(11:20
kanzurewhen do you get molested?11:21
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mheldkanzure: "The room "#hplusroadmap" on "irc.freenode.net" is invite only."11:37
mheldany time I join the room11:37
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kanzurehttp://gitduino.com/14:33
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kanzureIdentifying the sea changes and opportunities in "biohacking" http://thinktech.honadvblogs.com/2010/12/21/identifying-the-sea-changes-and-opportunities-in-biohacking/14:48
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QuantumGwhat sort of "acrylic" was she making?14:57
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bdeskdo transhumanists have their own christmas holiday kind of like kwanza?16:14
kanzuresome of the extropians practice newtonmas but it's more of a joke16:15
kanzurei'm a fan of festivus16:16
bdeskis newtonmas like gravmas16:16
kanzureno it's celebrating newton's birthday or something16:16
bdeski like seinfeld but im not going to start worshiping it lol16:17
@jrayhawkwe decorate bryan with circuit boards and LEDs and cables and singe transhuman carols16:17
@jrayhawksing16:17
kanzurehttp://www.kurzweilai.net/i-am-the-very-model-of-a-singularitarian16:17
bdeskgravmas is also to celebrate newtons birthday16:18
kanzureold school rocket machining16:21
kanzurehttp://www.cnccookbook.com/img/OthersProjects/Machines/OldMachines/Nasa1952.jpg16:21
kanzurehttp://www.cnccookbook.com/img/OthersProjects/Machines/OldMachines/Nasa1946.jpg16:22
kanzurehttp://www.cnccookbook.com/img/OthersProjects/Machines/OldMachines/Nasa1951.jpg16:22
bdeskthat is a bigass cnc16:23
kanzurei had a pic somewhere of a warehouse-sized lathe.. dunno where it went.16:27
bdeskthe problem with real things is that they take up space16:28
bdeskand they are heavy16:28
QuantumGcompared to non-real things, yes, I imagine anything would be heavy ;)16:29
bdeskand often consume resources to operate16:29
kanzurebdesk: fenn's idea was to make them.. not big/heavy http://fennetic.net/bfi/16:33
kanzurerough approximation: http://fennetic.net/bfi/hextatic.jpg16:33
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kanzure"A group of British schoolchildren may be the youngest scientists ever to have their work published in a peer-reviewed journal. In a new paper in Biology Letters, children from Blackawton Primary School report that buff-tailed bumblebees can learn to recognize nourishing flowers based on colors and patterns.The paper itself is well worth reading. It's written entirely in the kids' voices, complete with sound effects (part of the Methods section is 18:09
kanzurehttp://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/12/22/225222218:09
kanzurehttp://rsbl.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/early/2010/12/18/rsbl.2010.105618:09
kanzure"peer reviewed.. by other 8 year olds?"18:11
bdeskby maddox18:17
bdeskhttp://www.iambetterthanyourkids.com/18:18
kanzureis his new book out yet18:20
bdeskQuantumG: thats the joke18:26
kanzureheh peer reviewed by maddox18:27
kanzurewe need to get maddox to peer review it18:27
bdeski could do it, on christmas, alone in a dark apartment18:31
kanzureyou live a lonely life my friend18:32
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flamothttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZoR8sn7Kmk22:46
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