2010-12-27.log

--- Log opened Mon Dec 27 00:00:04 2010
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joshcryerNice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvu9SoCyDec00:48
joshcryerThis is so cool.00:48
joshcryerI was raised in a rather hickish town and my accent is terrible.00:52
joshcryerThough maybe if I follow this I might turn out with an Asian accent...01:06
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futuresoonhttp://makezine.com/tagyourgreen/?id=95 vote to make the global village construction set features at maker fair08:41
futuresoon*featured08:41
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kanzureeric's design catalog for utilihab: http://utilihab.wikia.com/wiki/Utilihab_WikiWiki12:00
kanzurehttp://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/2010/12/06/officials-work-this-week-to-advance-wipo-treaty-to-protect-biological-traditional-resources/12:24
kanzureScience, Open Communication and Sustainable Development12:32
kanzureabstract: http://www.mdpi.com/2071-1050/2/4/993/12:32
kanzurepdf: http://www.mdpi.com/2071-1050/2/4/993/pdf12:32
kanzuregrr someone needs to whack them with an rss cluestick http://genspace.org/news.html was it feedburner that took divs on a page and broke out an rss feed for you and its periodic updates?12:41
kanzureusing eeg for art control http://www.tmplab.org/wiki/index.php/Brain_Computer_Interface12:42
kanzuremathematical lathe work http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/12/math_monday_mathematical_lathe_work_1.html12:49
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kanzure"Science, Law Enforcement Build Biotech Bridges http://www.sciencemag.org/content/330/6012/1766.full#sec-313:53
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kanzurewoefully incomplete http://thecitizensciencequarterly.com/2010/12/23/citizen-scientist-utility-belt-mailing-lists/14:29
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kanzurehttp://www.meetup.com/Open-Science-Bay-Area/14:32
kanzure"we're not ready for do it yourself genetic analysis" http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2010/10/ready-genetic-analysis.html14:33
archelskanzure: Any opinion on Richard Loosemore?14:36
kanzurei haven't been impressed by him ever :/14:40
QuantumGhe's a philosophical wanker14:41
QuantumGya know, like the vast majority of people who occupy the AGI community14:42
kanzurehi QuantumG14:43
QuantumGhi kanzure14:43
archelsWell, we're all arrogant to some degree. ;)14:44
QuantumGit's not arrogance that's the problem.. it's masturbatory pontificating in place of actually making something that works.14:45
archelsI saw one of his posts to [singularity] where he mentioned complex/chaotic systems, was pondering mailing him about that just to pick his brain a little.14:45
kanzurepeople who talk about "chaos theory" often don't know what "chaos theory" actually is.14:46
kanzurejust a word of warning.14:46
archelsYes, so I was wondering if he was another nut or someone who knows what he's talking about.14:47
kanzure*shrug* if you can convince him to release his fluorescence microscopy schematics, that might be valuable14:47
kanzureor is that steven .. uh.14:47
archelsheh14:47
kanzurethere's another loony person on that mailing list who has been hoarding some super secret microscope designs or something14:48
kanzurebecause it's going to make him a trillionaire, or something14:48
archelsDid you see that quenching fluoresence 'scope from that German insitute, er...14:50
kanzuresteve richfield14:50
archelsat the Max Planck...14:50
archelsoh yes, STED microscopy14:51
kanzureno. did you see the halcyon molecular paper on annular dark-field electron microscopy? http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v464/n7288/full/nature08879.html14:51
kanzuremore: http://halcyonmolecular.com/2010/03/25/halcyon-collaborators-develop-method-for-atom-by-atom-identification-and-analysis/14:51
kanzurepersonal genomics book (personal genome project, george church, etc.) http://www.amazon.com/Here-Human-Being-Personal-Genomics/dp/0061628336/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_314:53
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kanzuretmmcabe decided to write a funding proposal for diybio to ray kurzweil (since he works for ray)15:49
kanzureon behalf of humanity+15:49
kanzureand neglected to run it by me?15:49
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kanzurehumanity+ @ caltech videos (almost all?) are on yousendit16:01
kanzurehttp://www.yousendit.com/download/RlRwTXRabWdoeVpjR0E9PQ16:01
kanzurehttp://www.yousendit.com/download/RlRvek9ncG9sMHhjR0E9PQ16:01
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kanzureuntil they are uploaded to youtoob or vimeo or whatever, you can find them here too:16:03
kanzurehttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/humanityplus-at-caltech/16:04
kanzurejrabbit: i'll not keep them there long, so don't fret16:04
kanzuregah. i meant jrayhawk :(16:04
kanzure20 MB/sec hot damn16:05
jrabbitHuh16:06
jrabbitah16:06
kanzure:(16:07
kanzurefor some reason, transhumanism is just more fun when you read it in russian16:08
kanzurehttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/%d0%98%d0%bd%d0%b6%d0%b5%d0%bd%d0%b5%d1%80%d0%b8%d1%8f%20%d0%be%d1%80%d0%b3%d0%b0%d0%bd%d0%be%d0%b2%20%d0%b8%20%d1%82%d0%ba%d0%b0%d0%bd%d0%b5%d0%b9%20-%20%d1%81%d0%be%d1%81%d1%82%d0%be%d1%8f%d0%bd%d0%b8%d0%b5%20%d0%b8%20%d0%bf%d0%b5%d1%80%d1%81%d0%bf%d0%b5%d0%ba%d1%82%d0%b8%d0%b2%d1%8b.ppt16:08
kanzurebetter? http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/Инженерия%20органов%20и%20тканей%20-%20состояние%20и%20перспективы.ppt16:09
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jrabbitlol16:34
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jrayhawkNah, you can keep them there long, that's fine16:38
jrayhawkLet me know if you want help converting them to ogv/mp4/wmv so they can be embedded in browsers.16:39
kanzurehumanityplus will be uploading them to youtube apparently16:44
QuantumGit's good PR16:44
kanzurejrayhawk: what format should i use if i was to keep those around16:44
jrayhawkmp4 is what people who care about size/quality tradeoffs use, ogv is what libre activists use16:46
jrayhawkmicrosoft jerkoffs use wmv, google jerkoffs use webm16:46
jrayhawkI've had problems with lavc and theora, so16:47
QuantumGwarez d00ds use avi16:47
jrayhawkgstreamer might be a better choice for encoding to ogv16:47
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QuantumGstreaming Gs?  I prefer something more discrete.16:51
jrayhawkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5_video#Table16:53
kanzurethey should just use emc2 http://wiki.protospace.nl/index.php/OpensourceLasercutterdriver16:53
kanzurejrayhawk: which one of those people am i16:53
jrayhawkyou convert to mp4 and ogv and use nested object fallback16:54
jrayhawkwith ogv being first choice because you care, but mp4 being available because you're not a dick about it16:54
kanzurewhen i convert stuff with ffmpeg, i always bloat up the files massively16:55
kanzurei note however that these are already multiple gigabytes so i can't possibly fail right?16:55
jrayhawki certainly doubt it16:55
jrayhawkbut, like i said, lavc has a lot of problems with theora16:55
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jrayhawkso you probably want to use gstreamer for that16:56
kanzureokay. let me fix the filenames and then bug you about maybe a good script for converting these16:56
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kanzurehttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/humanityplus-at-caltech/17:04
kanzurethere.17:04
kanzurenow the filenames don't make me cry as much17:05
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Lukas_Hello17:16
kanzurehowdy Lukas_17:16
kanzurewelcome17:16
Lukas_Looks like I've finally gotten around to joining the chatroom17:16
kanzurejrayhawk: since these will be on youtube, i think ogv is fine (i.e. for people who also care)17:16
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Lukas_Hello there17:19
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jrayhawkUgh. I usually wind up using oggconvert for this because entrans and gst-launch both manage to be even more painful than mencoder17:27
jrayhawki guess if you forward an x socket...17:28
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Lukas_http://www.ustream.tv/channel/space-manufacturing-1417:36
Lukas_Craig Venter at a NASA conference17:36
Lukas_a talk on the use of Synthetic Biology for helping humans out in space17:37
Lukas_he also speaks about using Genetically modified or synthetic bacterial symbiotic organisms17:38
kanzurespace-manufacturing-14 was actually by the Space Studies Institute17:38
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Lukas_Thanks for the correction17:39
kanzurehttp://ssi.org/2010-conference-space-manufacturing-14/17:39
kanzurethey recently uploaded their videos i think?17:39
Lukas_Yes17:39
Lukas_very recently17:39
kanzureah here we go:17:40
kanzurehttp://ssi.org/2010-conference-space-manufacturing-14/17:40
kanzureer17:40
kanzurehttp://ssi.org/2010-conference-space-manufacturing-14/archive/17:40
kanzureoh cool dietzler was there17:41
kanzurei thought he was a total hermit17:42
Lukas_xD17:42
Lukas_I just read your post on the next possible X-Prize17:44
Lukas_how did you come upon this information?17:45
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kanzureLukas_: hm? which post17:49
Lukas_http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://www.ecofriendlymag.com/sustainable-transporation-and-alternative-fuel/x-prize-foundation-aims-to-launch-100m-in-prizes-over-next-10-years-targeting-4-key-areas/&usg=AFQjCNERe3TBrYern74mSbntKy70Nj7HEg17:50
kanzurei probably got an email from xprize.org17:52
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Lukas_ah17:52
Lukas_I see no mention of anything Human 2.0 on the X-Prize website, though17:53
Lukas_http://www.xprize.org/future-x-prizes17:53
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kanzureyeah it looks like they deleted that PR item17:54
Lukas_Figured17:54
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Lukas_Anything transhuman is a major PR issue17:54
QuantumGlucky kanzure is here.. he loves PR ;)17:55
Lukas_X-Prize money going to DIYh+ would be amazing though17:55
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kanzurehi JayDugger17:57
JayDuggerGood evening, everyone.17:58
Lukas_Good evening17:58
JayDuggerJust troubleshooting a client problem, so I will pop in and out for sometime.17:58
jrayhawkIf you do decide to forward an X socket to your vserver, you might need to install xbase-clients on your local machine and restart your x session to get xauth stuff working17:59
jrayhawkand then ssh -X17:59
Lukas_I suspect that any open development of H+ technology will result in a pretty hefty backlash - the best course of action is to move ahead IMO18:03
kanzurejrayhawk: huh? why would i use x-anything on gnusha?18:05
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jrayhawkSo you can transcode those videos using tools that don't take a ten house to learn18:10
jrayhawkdon't take ten hours18:10
jrayhawkme no type good18:10
kanzureyou overlook my keeeeeyybbboooarrrdddd malfunctions and we'll call it even18:11
jrayhawknever18:11
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Lukas_http://www.jove.com/18:28
Lukas_Not entirely sure how useful the website would be to you guys18:28
Lukas_but I thought I would post it18:28
kanzureyes we know about jove :)18:29
kanzureactually if you need to contact them..18:29
kanzureNikita Bernstein <nikita.bernstein@jove.com>18:29
kanzureMoshe Pritsker <moshe.pritsker@jove.com>18:29
Lukas_Kanzure, you never cease to amaze me18:31
Lukas_heh18:31
Lukas_thanks18:31
Lukas_going to bed18:37
Lukas_take care18:37
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kanzuretom wants ray kurzweil to buy me a dna synthesizer?19:44
kanzureif ray has money, i could think of some better stuff19:52
kanzuretrans-tech.yaml could be spiced up i guess19:53
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fennhandbrake-cli doesn't need X20:26
fennif you decide to use mp4 (I would)20:26
fenntime HandBrakeCLI -O -e x264 -i cat.avi -o cat.mp420:27
fennlooks ok with low bitrate too20:28
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kanzurefenn: did you read tim's email or his comments last night20:45
kanzure(in here)20:45
kanzurefenn: also i do intend to ship the hard drive within the next day or so20:49
timschmidtfenn: I'm pestering you!20:50
timschmidtget out here and fight me like a man!20:51
timschmidt:P20:51
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futuresoonhttp://makezine.com/tagyourgreen/?id=95 <--- vote for the awesomeness20:56
timschmidtvoted20:56
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timschmidtfeeeeeeeeeenn...  fenn!  bryan has ordered me to pester you21:04
kanzurefenn: pester pester21:04
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