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| kanzure | yet another connectome article http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/28/science/28brain.html | 06:36 |
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| kanzure | http://www.humanconnectomeproject.org/ | 06:36 |
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| archels | `login required' | 06:38 |
| archels | fuckers. | 06:38 |
| kanzure | ny times? | 06:40 |
| archels | yes | 06:40 |
| kanzure | eh it's not super important | 06:40 |
| kanzure | but i'll grab you the article later | 06:40 |
| archels | KurzweilAI managed to make an absolutely worthless summary | 06:41 |
| kanzure | kurzweilai always has a worthless summary | 06:41 |
| archels | alright, well, if it contains nothing interesting... | 06:41 |
| archels | but thanks for the offer | 06:41 |
| kanzure | oh it's interesting, but it's not like it's anything super new about connectomics or those guys | 06:41 |
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| kanzure | i mean it's the ny times :P this is not the bleeding edge of scientific publication | 06:42 |
| archels | sure, but it can serve as pointers to the real stuff, like a WikiPedia article. | 06:42 |
| kanzure | lookup brainbow | 06:42 |
| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainbow | 06:42 |
| kanzure | http://www.google.com/images?q=brainbow | 06:43 |
| archels | seen it | 06:43 |
| archels | I bet reporters love that technique if only for the flashy images it provides for their articles. | 06:44 |
| kanzure | i would pay for high res brainbow photos for my walls :/ | 06:44 |
| archels | haha. I guess the resolution is limited by the microscope's optics though? | 06:45 |
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| archels | 600 dpi half a metre across may not give a very sharp image? | 06:46 |
| archels | or am I talking out of my arse. | 06:46 |
| kanzure | it's limited more by the images that they published | 06:47 |
| kanzure | tiny little figures in a paper.. | 06:47 |
| archels | Sure, but it's in principle possible to take erotically high resolution images looking down onto the sample? | 06:48 |
| kanzure | yes but it depends on something about your optics, field of focus, etc. | 06:51 |
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| Lukas_ | How did the video conversion go? | 07:10 |
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| kanzure | Lukas_: haven't done it yet | 07:42 |
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| Lukas_ | ah | 07:44 |
| kanzure | max more interview published today | 07:48 |
| kanzure | http://spacecollective.org/Wildcat/6485/Plugging-into-the-epic-A-rational-poetry-of-the-future-An-essay-and-interview-with-Max-More | 07:48 |
| kanzure | (he's presently driving to arizona actually..) | 07:48 |
| Lukas_ | Thanks | 07:51 |
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| Lukas_ | I love Max More's dear mother nature | 08:48 |
| Lukas_ | it was my first time reading it | 08:48 |
| g4k | /wind 2 | 08:54 |
| g4k | err | 08:54 |
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| kanzure | lol on wta-talk: "This whole "Genspace" idea is truly revolutionary but isn't there the real danger that some unstable actor such as, oh, I don't know, Osama Bin Laden might try to do the same thing using Genspace as a template?" | 09:39 |
| kanzure | "Based on some of the posts about this facilities capabilities, it sounds like the perfect facility to develop WMD's I was just wondering if anyone had explored that possible outcome. I guess we should also look into whether or not some Al Qaida affiliate that already in the United States doesn't set up a Genspace" | 09:39 |
| Lukas_ | xD | 09:39 |
| kanzure | "(or more than one since they are so low cost and easy to put together!) analog inside the basement(s) of some low-profile suburban house(s) outside one or major metropolitan cities." | 09:40 |
| kanzure | oh noes! osama bin laden might be using genspace! | 09:40 |
| Lukas_ | Osama is everywhere | 09:40 |
| Lukas_ | lol | 09:40 |
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| uniqanomaly__ | of course it is | 09:42 |
| Lukas_ | Do these government types know the definition of 'open souce'? | 09:42 |
| Lukas_ | source* | 09:42 |
| uniqanomaly__ | assumption behind TSA is that everyone is terrorist | 09:42 |
| uniqanomaly__ | they should create license for buying knives | 09:44 |
| uniqanomaly__ | one have a license = never convicted of murder | 09:45 |
| uniqanomaly__ | ok, that was little grotesque | 09:45 |
| Lukas_ | It was a good analogy | 09:49 |
| Lukas_ | Does anyone have a list of the DIYbio groups in New York ( NYC/ Long Island)? Thanks for the help in advance | 10:03 |
| kanzure | diybio-nyc is http://genspace.org/ | 10:03 |
| kanzure | http://groups.google.com/group/diybio-nyc | 10:03 |
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| Lukas_ | Thank you | 10:40 |
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| kanzure | jmil: where does organovo put its printed tissues? | 11:13 |
| kanzure | manual caretaking via petri dishes and lab protocols? | 11:14 |
| jmil | they are making vascular grafts, so it would be for blood vessel replacement kanzure | 11:14 |
| jmil | oh you mean during tissue culture before implantation? | 11:14 |
| kanzure | yes | 11:14 |
| jmil | if so, it would be bioreactors | 11:14 |
| jmil | probably flow perfusion setups | 11:14 |
| kanzure | like so? http://www.hugo-sachs.de/bath/images/il2_new.jpg | 11:15 |
| jmil | here's one version: http://westlab.rice.edu/download?fileType=publication&id=1235 | 11:15 |
| jmil | kanzure: ya that'd work fine | 11:15 |
| jmil | you have to balance mechanical compliance of the tissue and pulsatile flow rate and a bunch of other stuff but it's well worked out | 11:16 |
| kanzure | haha yeah that doesn't look commercially viable on a level comparable to "3d tissue printers" | 11:16 |
| jmil | you can download all westlab publications, by the way... | 11:16 |
| jmil | kanzure: what? | 11:16 |
| kanzure | just thinking :) | 11:17 |
| kanzure | when you print tissue you have to put it somewhere | 11:17 |
| kanzure | you see, some of us have this crazy scheme to do whole body transplants or whole brain preservation through methods like putting a brain "in a jar" | 11:18 |
| kanzure | i.e. some people aren't really happy with alcor or cryonics institute | 11:18 |
| Lukas_ | *cough* | 11:18 |
| kanzure | so anyway, you need to be able to network organs together in that sort of environment | 11:18 |
| kanzure | lung machines, dialysis machines, etc. work fine | 11:18 |
| kanzure | but it doesn't seem like there's a "commercially sold box" for tissue culture life support | 11:19 |
| Lukas_ | Next project, perhaps? | 11:19 |
| kanzure | nah i know someone working on this but i wanted jmil's opinions | 11:20 |
| kanzure | since jmil does tissue printing.. stuff. | 11:20 |
| kanzure | btw thx for the paper | 11:21 |
| Lukas_ | Me? | 11:21 |
| kanzure | jmil lilnked to http://westlab.rice.edu/download?fileType=publication&id=1235 | 11:21 |
| kanzure | *linked | 11:21 |
| kanzure | it's "Physiologic pulsatile flow bioreactor conditioning of poly(ethylene glycol)-based tissue engienered vascular grafts" | 11:22 |
| kanzure | *engineered | 11:22 |
| Lukas_ | *archived* | 11:23 |
| Lukas_ | thanks jmil | 11:23 |
| jmil | all papers can be downloaded for free here: http://westlab.rice.edu/publications | 11:27 |
| jmil | gotta run, laterz peeps | 11:27 |
| Lukas_ | O.o | 11:27 |
| Lukas_ | thanks | 11:27 |
| kanzure | this one sounds diabolical: "The mouse cornea as a transplantation site for live imaging of engineered tissue constructs." | 11:28 |
| kanzure | <3 | 11:28 |
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| Lukas_ | xD | 11:32 |
| Lukas_ | Does Genspace have a fee for the use of its equipment? | 11:35 |
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| kanzure | Lukas_: $100/mo membership fee | 13:03 |
| kanzure | or something like that | 13:03 |
| Lukas_ | ah | 13:04 |
| Lukas_ | thanks | 13:04 |
| Lukas_ | Remember that DIYbio kit that was in the works? | 13:21 |
| Lukas_ | Was the idea developed, or was the project scraped? | 13:22 |
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| kanzure | hi Tyrant91101 | 13:55 |
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| Tyrant91101 | hey kanzure | 14:38 |
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| QuantumG | What the hell happened this year in the space industry? Anything? Find out with Clark Lindsey on The Space Show, LIVE! http://bit.ly/aAWpCJ | 19:00 |
| QuantumG | starting now | 19:00 |
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| kanzure | what's christine peterson doing in my "open source history" again? | 19:35 |
| kanzure | http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1927376&cid=34688312 | 19:35 |
| kanzure | "TFA does not support the summary. The submitter does not understand the history involved [hyperlogos.org]. Christine Peterson is one of at least three people including Bruce Perens who claim to have invented the term "Open Source", in spite of the simple fact that the term appears in the media and in press releases prior to that date." | 19:35 |
| * kanzure was emailing chris earlier today about foresight institute's upcoming conferences | 19:36 | |
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| kanzure | i <3 foresight.org | 19:52 |
| kanzure | i think they just got me into 20under20.org | 19:52 |
| kanzure | apparently they did not "get the quality that they were looking for" in applicants | 19:54 |
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| kanzure | huh? marcin is now doing a ted talk on his global village construction set | 21:40 |
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| g4k | any advice on where to find micrometer-diameter glass tubing? | 23:17 |
| g4k | or how to search for such a thing | 23:18 |
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| kanzure | happy birthday JayDugger | 23:33 |
| g4k | am i supposed to make my own 50um tubing? | 23:34 |
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