2011-01-04.log

--- Log opened Tue Jan 04 00:00:05 2011
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joshcryerHappy Birthday kanzure.01:19
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JaredWigmorekanzure: Happy birthday too!02:06
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fennk i'll point out the obvious - the video titles are all at the bottom of the page instead of under each video prewview03:13
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archelsargh, fucking LaTeX is going to make me miss my deadline05:40
archelsnow it randomly removed all brackets from [citations].05:40
fennmaybe \left[05:44
archelsnah, according to the documentation \bibitem should put them there automatically (and it did until I made some corrections).05:45
archelsI'll revert later to see what is the hang-up. :(05:45
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kanzurefenn: oh. under the video would make sense huh.06:16
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archelshttp://humanityplus.org.uk/06:45
archelsyay or nay?06:45
Utopiahsome here might like the Computers as Organic Material section of http://www.rosenfeldmedia.com/books/mobile-design/blog/emergent_computing_paradigms/06:47
Lukas__nay06:48
Lukas__personally06:48
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Utopiahhttp://www.physiome.org.nz07:04
archelsLukas__: Admittedly, doesn't look very spectucular. Look, it's De Grey. How original. :(07:08
Lukas__Personally, if it's not "This is the research we've done, and these are the results" I don't want to hear it07:09
archelsnod, this is just really vague meta-talk07:09
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Lukas__<Utopiah>  Thanks for the link07:10
archelsI already have a comp neurosci conference scheduled in April or so anyway.07:10
UtopiahLukas__: np (was to update my http://fabien.benetou.fr/Content/Health page with links on computational physiology)07:11
archelsThough that's in Edinburgh, and I'll take almost any excuse to go to London. :)07:11
Lukas__xD07:11
Lukas__I'm a poor collage student, so it still wouldn't matter07:12
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archelsThis side of the Atlantic?07:16
Lukas__yup07:18
Lukas__well, I am assuming you mean the U.S07:19
Lukas__if so, yes07:19
Lukas__:)07:19
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archelsah, it needs to be a pretty good conference then to warrant the plane ride.07:27
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archelsFor me it's a lot cheaper, I live nextdoors to England. ;)07:27
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Utopiah( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anKiEoxkpxM IBM next in 5 starting with "citizen scientists" and crowdsourced sensors)07:27
Lukas__A little to idealized, but a lot more plausible than what I usually hear07:31
Lukas__Do any of you guys have a youtube channel?07:53
kanzurehttp://youtube.com/user/kanzure07:58
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Lukas__Heads up:  I've gotten back into the youtube thing since I've got a month left in vacation08:21
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kanzureok cleaned up the front page (it's not imagespam now) http://diyhpl.us:9000/08:31
kanzureadded /random http://diyhpl.us:9000/random  which has precious thumbnails08:31
kanzureheh error submitting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1wFzUqVCzQ probably because i only check for unique titles half the time08:35
kanzurealso broken http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEyguiO4UW008:51
strageskanzure: thanks for the links, I'm loving that all these videos are in one convenient location09:01
kanzurestrages: any suggestions for how to encourage people to comment on the same video at the same time?09:05
stragesI'm confused, you mean real time chat for all those watching the video that moment?09:13
kanzureno09:15
kanzurethis is very much in beta, so add as many comments as you want (since they will all be deleted probably)09:16
kanzureyoutube (or any other video hosting tube) is hardly the place for people to ask questions about the ideas in these videos09:16
kanzurehacker news is nice for tech discussion and business but it doesn't attract the full h+ crowd09:16
kanzure(i.e. science discussion is a little lacking)09:17
kanzurei don't think it should be real-time chat.09:27
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kanzuretwo more that break it:09:43
kanzurehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryNM9J7k6-E09:43
kanzurehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yje4wYqHBo09:43
kanzureactually all of those from SB2.0 because they have the same titles :(09:44
stragesI'll be sure to signup and login then09:49
stragesanyone have an image showing the size comparison of a reprap mendel and a reprap huxley?09:50
kanzureno.. but someone was working on a family tree diagram of repraps09:52
kanzurewho was that anyway?09:52
kanzurehuh google doesn't use oembed? fail: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2874207418572601262#09:55
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Lukas__Sweet, no image span10:36
Lukas__spam*10:36
kanzureyou can also see random posts http://diyhpl.us:9000/random10:42
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strageshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v373XKgzKc11:06
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Lukas__Interesting ....11:10
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Lukas____Hullo13:45
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Lukas____O.o14:30
Lukas____Happy Birthday Kanzure14:30
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kanzurethank you Lukas____14:33
Lukas____If you don't mind, how exactly did you become so entrenched in the H+ community?14:34
jrayhawkloosely focused enthusiasm14:36
jrayhawkthe kind of enthusiasm that many people find worrying14:36
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kanzureLukas____: i'd like to say it's because my projects are easy to understand and they make sense14:38
kanzurebut really the details seem to only make sense to people who don't care about entrenchment14:38
Lukas____Interesting14:39
Lukas____you seemed to be involved in almost everything H+, and you're a student14:39
Lukas____inspiring14:39
Lukas____how do you balance it all?14:40
kanzurei am not a student14:41
Lukas____?14:41
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QuantumGbut you're s-s-studious14:41
Lukas____I could have sworn you were a grad student or something14:42
kanzurenope14:42
kanzurejust doin' stuff on my own..14:42
Lukas____O.o14:42
Lukas____brave14:42
Lukas____quite brave indeed14:43
kanzurehaha i should have hplusvideo do talk reviews (like movie reviews)14:47
kanzuresome of them are about the same length as movies anyway14:47
Lukas____that is a good idea14:58
Lukas____I'd join in too14:58
Lukas____lol14:58
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kanzurei'm featured for a bit in the san francisco chronicle today15:37
kanzureBryan was mentioned in a frontpage chronicle article on the self-tracking movement....15:37
kanzurehttp://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2011/01/04/MNT41GT99B.DTL15:37
mheldoh nice!15:37
kanzuredunno what it says, i'm not subscribed.15:37
mheldtweet that shit, yo15:37
mheldimpromptu dinner at asgard in kendall sq (for all y'all bostonians) today at 7:30 if anybody's interested. JLBaptiste, Mark Bao, bunch of others15:41
jrayhawkhplusvideo should do MST3K15:42
kanzurehahaha15:46
kanzuremst3k on the videos there? :)15:46
jrayhawkYes.15:47
kanzurespecifically i should get steve to do it at least once15:49
kanzure"We've been working on this drug for 5 years now, and it has the potential to alleviate all pain related to arthritis"15:50
kanzure"yeah so we'll see that when i'm 60"15:50
kanzure(that's not a steve comment)15:50
kanzureooh that's right. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/space-manufacturing-14 stuff.15:53
QuantumGyeah, the mining one is quite good15:54
kanzurejrayhawk: i can't imagine anything except snide remarks or further explanations, etc.15:55
jrayhawkI know a certain set of misanthropes who can expand your imagination.15:55
kanzureexcellent15:55
kanzureaubrey remixes wouldn't be that bad either..15:56
kanzurei imagine he's getting formulaic in his presentations by now15:56
kanzureLukas____: http://diyhpl.us:9000/s/the-spikerbox-bringing-neurophysiology-to-everyone15:57
jrayhawkwe could have steve do intermission sketches as aubrey15:57
kanzure"Aubrey, what big beard you have!"15:58
kanzure"Aubrey, what in depth understanding of bayesian probability and obscure grammars you have.. suddenly.. er.. what?"15:58
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Lukas____XD16:12
QuantumGhmm.. a number of wireless IP cameras are now advertising as "iPhone Compatible" ... setting aside the sickening consumerism and obvious trademark infringement, I wonder if there's any small enough to wear on a necklace for life logging16:16
jrayhawkTrademark infringement?16:18
QuantumGyeah.. they're obviously saying "iPhone compatible" to leverage Apple's trademark to enhance their product.16:19
QuantumGand btw, I'm sick of "product specifications" that don't even include the fucking dimensions of the product.16:20
jrayhawkIt's not diluting the value of the brand or making any false claims, however.16:21
QuantumGof course it is.  What is their camera is shit?  People will associate their shittiness with Apple (which I already do, but yeah)16:21
jrayhawkhttp://apdm.com/LiteratureRetrieve.aspx?ID=51017 Speaking of life logging, I do some work for these guys, FWIW.16:22
QuantumGand they have dimensions in the specifications :)16:23
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joshcryerYou can buy "spy cams" for $10 on eBay, put in a 32GB SD card and it'll record for a few days in low quality.16:30
QuantumGyeah, I'm actually interested in something more than recording16:31
joshcryerTrying to remember the name of the cam, it is uber cheap made by some Chinese company.16:31
joshcryerBut I was thinking of doing this, actually.16:31
joshcryerBuy four or five of them and wear them on my arms, head, etc.16:31
QuantumGuh huh16:32
joshcryerON MY DICK TOO LOL!16:32
QuantumGmoving right along16:32
joshcryerNot serious.16:32
joshcryerBut interested in more than recording?16:32
QuantumGrecognizing faces for example.. and delivering live information via headphones16:33
joshcryerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zowf8UkE6fk16:33
joshcryerAhh.16:33
joshcryerYeah that'd be nice, use a GoPro for that.16:34
joshcryerI can't think of anything smaller that has an interface you can hack.16:35
joshcryerGoPro will give you a live feed in very high quality.16:36
joshcryerWith a Tegra 2 based arch you should be able to do real time facial recognition and whatnot.16:37
joshcryer(with a battery life that would last an entire day)16:37
Lukas____Any traucers or martial artists here?16:49
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joshcryerLukas____, I do kempo for exercise.17:21
Lukas____O.o wicked17:21
joshcryerparkour is not something I've done much, though, unless you count running down hills in mountain trials.17:21
joshcryertrails17:21
Lukas____I try not to run too much when it comes to hiking, as screwing up your ankles suck17:22
joshcryerLukas____, I've never tried kempo on another person, so I don't know if what I know qualifies as martial art.17:22
Lukas____I almost did that on Washington17:22
joshcryerYeah, I agree.17:22
joshcryerWhen I was a kid I had many many ankle injuries.17:22
Lukas____I am trying to avoid that17:23
joshcryerparkour is a bit safer in that respect because your terrain is mostly flat.17:23
Lukas____even if the technologies become available to fix damaged tissue, I am not sure if I will be able to afford it17:23
joshcryer(urban parkour)17:23
Lukas____trust me, it can get hairy17:23
Lukas____though I have a friend that wants to try out alpine level parkour17:24
Lukas____because he is nuts17:24
joshcryerI can do a standing jump to about 3 to 4 feet up.17:24
Lukas____If I'm that high up I'd like my feet planted firmly on the ground17:24
Lukas____sweet17:24
joshcryerSo those pylons you see for parking spaces at gas stations is easily met.17:24
joshcryers/parking spaces/gas pumps17:24
Lukas____haha, wicked17:24
joshcryerhttp://blog.photoshelter.com/image/3-gas-pump.jpg17:25
Lukas____My philosophy is this:  since I can't do the whole upgrading deal now, I'll push my current self as hard as possible until I can17:25
joshcryerLike that thing at the end there, to keep cars from crashing in to the pump.17:25
Lukas____O_O17:26
Lukas____that is17:26
Lukas____wow17:26
Lukas____you've got strong legs17:26
Lukas____do you still hike by any chance?17:27
joshcryerYeah, not as often, but I run every week.17:27
joshcryerWhen winter comes here hiking is basically not possible, or rather, I have no desire to expose myself to 20mph winds at 10 degrees (-12C).17:28
Lukas____ah, I've stopped until it begins to warm up again - I did a 10 miler in 40 Fahrenheit weather, and it sucks17:28
Lukas____xD17:28
joshcryerOoh you use F.17:28
joshcryerAhh right your country was a colony of the UK. :P17:29
Lukas____I did Bear Mountain last week (after the blizzard)17:29
Lukas____yes, was17:29
Lukas____:P17:29
joshcryerI assume you use km now though for distance?17:29
joshcryerI think the US is basically the last holdout on that one.17:29
joshcryerkm / metric17:30
Lukas____as a hopeful scientist/ engineer, I've been converted17:30
Lukas____but most people still use miles17:30
joshcryerWait Bear Mountain? You're in the USA?17:30
Lukas____military types use metric17:30
Lukas____yes17:30
joshcryerAhh, apologies I thought you were still in your country. :)17:30
joshcryerI want to invent a better metric system.17:31
Lukas____Hrm, slight misunderstanding17:31
Lukas____I am from the U.S17:31
joshcryerThat isn't bound to the arbitrarily defined meter unit.17:31
Lukas____and I am currently living there17:31
Lukas____you'd have to get the entire scientific community to agree17:32
joshcryerBut you lived in Guyana?17:32
Lukas____mother is from Guyana17:33
joshcryerAhhh17:33
joshcryerGotcha.17:33
Lukas____should have clarified17:33
joshcryerSorry for not getting a clarification before.17:33
Lukas____personally, I think Guyana should still be a colony, IMO17:33
joshcryerHaha17:33
joshcryerThat's messed up. :P17:33
Lukas____but that is another topic17:33
Lukas____True = messed up, depending on the topic17:34
joshcryerI mena I can see reasons why.17:34
joshcryerBut the very fact that those reasons could legitimately exist is messed up.17:35
joshcryerSomeone tried arguing to me that Emperor Palpatine (from Star Wars) wasn't as bad as Hitler.17:35
joshcryerEmperor Palpatine blew up a planet! How stupid!17:35
joshcryer:P17:35
Lukas____If it wasn't for the British Empire I wouldn't be such a mish mash of ethnic backgrounds17:35
Lukas____....17:35
Lukas____well,17:35
Lukas____he wasn't17:35
Lukas____:P17:35
joshcryerI am changing the subject btw.17:35
Lukas____xD17:36
joshcryerSure, Hitler killed people because of their race / religion / beliefs. Emperor Palpatine blew up a planet because the planets Princess was against him. Way worse.17:36
Lukas____....17:36
joshcryerHave you not seen Star Wars? Haha17:36
Lukas____Hitler and Palpatine aren't comparable17:36
Lukas____more like Stalin17:37
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Lukas____It was one of those situations where the Galaxy could have the Sith, and some order, or no Sith, and constant war17:38
Lukas____f-ed up choice to make17:38
Lukas____but that was the situation17:38
joshcryerHmm.17:38
Lukas____kinda like Saddam's Iraq17:39
Lukas____he was a bad guy, but without him17:39
Lukas____you have near constant conflict17:39
joshcryerSo when Anikin killed Lord Sidius at the very end, he in fact was not bringing peace, but war?17:39
Lukas____Yes17:40
Lukas____if the books follow the lore17:40
Lukas____still, Palpatine was a bastard, and if I didn't give the subject much thought, I'd kill him too17:40
joshcryerw/e you blow up a planet you are done, period. :P17:41
Lukas____XD17:41
Lukas____And anyway, why make war when there are billions of stars in the Galaxy17:42
Lukas____all you need is a decent ship and some food17:42
joshcryerThe very idea was that Palpatine wanted power beyond anything else.17:42
joshcryerie, a basic good vs evil narrative.17:43
Lukas____Fine, he can have it - I'll be on the other side of the galaxy, in the outer rim, on some obscure planet17:43
Lukas____:P17:43
joshcryerYes it does sound silly that Star Wars had conflict.17:45
joshcryerEspecially when the books make them out to be 10000x more powerful than Star Trek.17:45
joshcryerThey're like, super singulatrians without the transhumanism.17:45
joshcryerAccording to "canon."17:45
joshcryerkanzure, buy a mega millions ticket if it's not too late.17:47
joshcryerThat'd be an awesome birthday present.17:47
joshcryerOne ticket = even odds. >:P17:47
Lukas____Imagine the projects he'd commit to if he won that sort of money17:48
joshcryerYeah I am not sure if you know, but it is $355 million.17:48
Lukas____...17:49
Lukas____excuse me?17:49
joshcryerThe jackpot.17:49
Lukas____How old do you have to be to play?17:49
Lukas____With that money, I could go to school and feed my family, and get and apartment near Stony Brook ... and STILL have money to do random projects17:50
joshcryer1817:51
joshcryerBut anyone can get one as a gift.17:51
joshcryerSo an 18 year old can give one to a 10 year old as a gift.17:51
Lukas____........17:51
Lukas____by Asura17:51
Lukas____thanks for the heads up, I am definitely playing17:52
joshcryerTime is running out to get a ticket though, heh.17:54
Lukas____D:17:55
Lukas____every person of age in my family is playing17:59
Lukas____:)17:59
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delinquentme*SIGH* i think i just lost a monitor18:14
Lukas____I'm  checking out for the night, cya18:30
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kanzurehi genehacker18:44
kanzuregenehacker: my new year's project: http://diyhpl.us:9000/random18:44
kanzurejrayhawk: was your pm out of context of something18:47
kanzurejrayhawk: aha.18:49
kanzurehttp://rifftrax.com/ hmm18:49
delinquentmekanzure, how du bring a monitor back from death18:55
kanzureCRT?18:55
delinquentmewesting house flat panel 22"18:56
kanzureflat.. what now?18:56
delinquentmeits muh babyyyy18:56
delinquentmeits getting power .. bc the light is on .. b ut the power button isnt switching it on18:56
kanzuredunno. doesn't sound like a problem worth replacing the screen for yet..18:59
kanzurealso this title is peculiar. http://diyhpl.us:9000/s/ray-kuzweil-at-the-mit-xprize-bci-workshop18:59
kanzuredidn't know they had a bci workshop18:59
delinquentmeim watching thsi ralph merkle atm19:03
delinquentmew the atom etching19:03
delinquentmeWOOT19:07
delinquentmeIT TURNED ON!19:07
delinquentmeIT HAB LIFE19:07
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genehackerkanzure happy birthday19:21
genehackeralso what's all that stuff?19:21
kanzuregenehacker: videos about transhumanism.. and related stuff19:23
kanzurefor posting comments/rating videos/reviewing them/summarizing them/asking presenters questions/whateer19:24
kanzure*whatever19:24
delinquentmehttp://diyhpl.us:9000/s/everybody-wants-to-live-forever-arnold-schwarzenegger19:27
delinquentmelololol19:27
kanzure:)19:31
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kanzuretitle is right http://diyhpl.us:9000/s/aubrey-de-grey-s-funniest-interview-ever-20:06
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superkuhHaha!20:28
jrayhawk'IndexError at /s/aubrey-de-grey-s-funniest-interview-ever'20:30
jrayhawkoh, bad copy, my bad20:30
kanzurejrayhawk: extra dash at the end20:30
kanzurei should fix that anyway20:30
jrayhawkrxvt betrayed me20:30
kanzuredashes at the end are lame anyway20:30
superkuh"I would like a beard."20:31
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kanzurewell.. at least this seems to work. http://api.embed.ly/1/oembed?url=http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1112991321:15
kanzureso not all hope is lost.21:15
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kanzureugh http://diyhpl.us/cgit/meetlog/commit/?id=160bf6cbad6d752d7f2eba367627efba6402b5b421:19
kanzurei wonder if the effects of happy birthday wishes are accumulative or exponential21:21
ybitcongrats on being pushed out of a belly 21 years ago kanzure21:26
ybitsomething i didn't know about, facebook becoming the most visited site on the web21:26
ybithttp://www.hitwise.com/us/press-center/press-releases/facebook-was-the-top-search-term-in-2010-for-sec/21:26
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ybitdirectly from the source: http://www.hitwise.com/us/press-center/press-releases/facebook-was-the-top-search-term-in-2010-for-sec/21:28
joshcryerWhen facebook is killed it will be a grand day indeed.21:29
joshcryerkanzure your meetlog is scarily comprehensive even if you have been only marginally lax updating it lately.21:31
joshcryerybit, half a billion people are on Facebook.21:31
joshcryerhttp://www.facebook.com/press/info.php?statistics21:32
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joshcryerkanzure, it needs biasing though.21:33
joshcryerWait, I won't try to corrupt your external mind-state.21:34
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kanzuremeetlog.txt needs biasing?21:44
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joshcryerkanzure, to give you an idea where one stands on an issue.22:00
joshcryerI saw "polywell" for instance, that'd be "fuck no" category for me.22:01
joshcryerI saw "focus fusion," but that might be "meh, hope it works, but doubtful."22:01
joshcryerIn that regard neither hold much interest for me.22:01
kanzureyeah i don't do any sort of tag weighting22:01
joshcryerAh, weighting, yes that's better than biasing.22:01
joshcryer(better wording I mean)22:02
kanzurei also don't keep track of "incoming" or "outgoing", like things i talk about but that others don't engage in, or things other talk about but i don't engage in, whatever22:02
joshcryerFair enough.22:02
joshcryerIt's still an impressive bit of effort, though you probably have a system down now.22:02
kanzurealso it's not per-conversation resolution.22:02
kanzurei guess.22:02
kanzurehttp://diyhpl.us/cgit/meetlog/plain/meetlog.txt22:02
kanzureheh ranhumanism22:03
kanzure*ranshumanism.. whatever. a tag typo.22:03
joshcryerlol22:04
joshcryeryou added bias in there you freak22:04
joshcryernever ceases to amuse me the stuff you add ocassionally22:04
kanzureit was already done22:04
kanzurebefore you explained22:04
kanzurei sort of assumed i'd be asleep by now22:05
joshcryersorry if I woke you by mentioning your nick22:05
kanzureno :)22:05
joshcryerWhat did you do for your bday?22:05
kanzurehumanity+ conference call thing, organizing "big stuff" :)22:05
joshcryerNice :D22:06
kanzurehung out with some friends over lunch and after.. lots of running around, usual daily busyness22:06
kanzuresushi dinner :)22:06
kanzureoh also something on hplusvideo that seemed important at the time but i can't quite remember what22:07
kanzurehplusmagazine.com maintenance bullshit too.22:07
joshcryerThe PS3 hackers now have all of the PS3 keys.22:10
joshcryerhttps://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AmWh9I5NKgNddE5NcnlxdHk3Nm9IYVR3djItTE9FT3c&hl=en_GB&output=html22:13
joshcryerPretty absurd security, right there.22:13
joshcryerEvery PS3 ever manufactured to date is irrevocibly ripe for hacking on.22:13
joshcryerSo if you want to make a cheap cluster, PS3 may be the way to go still (not sure of Cell's power to computation ratio is better than Intel's Sandybridge, though, maybe not).22:14
kanzurehmm this is weird22:16
kanzurehttp://diyhpl.us:9000/s/everybody-wants-to-live-forever-arnold-schwarzenegger22:16
kanzurewhere'd it go?22:16
joshcryerwhole site appears down22:18
kanzureno just this one seems to have been deleted.22:19
joshcryerAhh22:20
joshcryerIt took forever to load, that's why.22:20
joshcryer(I mean, that's why I thought it was down)22:20
joshcryerI'm getting: IndexError at /s/everybody-wants-to-live-forever-arnold-schwarzenegger22:21
joshcryerAnd lots of stuff.22:21
kanzurethis seems to happen periodically.. not sure why. there's like zero server load22:21
kanzureyeah that's what i'm complaining about, the video is deleted22:21
joshcryerMaybe python is hanging when someone does something they shouldn't do, like access a file that is deleted or something.22:21
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joshcryerSaw the CCCC Lepht talk in full.23:13
joshcryerShe's harmless. Probably gets people talking more than anything.23:13
joshcryerI suggest a cease fire.23:13
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