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| kanzure | Technicus: just tell us what actual problems you're having | 03:40 |
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| kanzure | open source hardware on bbc radio this morning http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/outriders/2011/02/histories_stories_and_current.shtml | 03:43 |
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| kanzure | http://gephi.org/ is down :( | 11:54 |
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| kanzure | (02:45:48 PM) Matt Campbell: you owe me big time | 13:23 |
| kanzure | uh oh. | 13:23 |
| kanzure | well i guess it's true in general | 13:24 |
| kanzure | but he's probably talking about something bad that happened | 13:24 |
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| Tyrant | Anyone going to be at BIL in march? | 14:04 |
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| kanzure | Tyrant: i might give a presentation | 14:12 |
| Tyrant | cool | 14:12 |
| Tyrant | socal diybio has like 2 or 3 presenting | 14:12 |
| kanzure | i have trouble picking topics. gada prize or hardware packaging? manufacturing or nanoengineer. etc. | 14:15 |
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| kanzure | http://futurisms.thenewatlantis.com/2011/02/celebrating-self-mutilation.html | 14:24 |
| kanzure | heh "euphemisms" | 14:24 |
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| kanzure | some logos http://dangerousprototypes.com/2011/02/13/open-source-hardware-logo/ | 14:27 |
| kanzure | #2 is nice | 14:27 |
| kanzure | http://www.openhardwaresummit.org/logo/oh-2-100.png | 14:27 |
| kanzure | lots of replies here: http://www.openhardwaresummit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=393&sid=6adec134fa64cc0ee5825339495c9b51 | 14:28 |
| kanzure | http://www.openhardwaresummit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=611#p611 | 14:29 |
| kanzure | http://www.openhardwaresummit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=623#p623 | 14:30 |
| kanzure | http://www.openhardwaresummit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=628#p628 | 14:30 |
| kanzure | http://www.openhardwaresummit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=665#p665 | 14:31 |
| kanzure | more comments.. :/ http://www.openhardwaresummit.org/oshw-logo-v1-0/ | 14:31 |
| QuantumG | how do you make a logo that encapsulates the "barely works, virtually no-one contributes back" nature of open hardware? | 14:32 |
| kanzure | how about a logo that says "everyone is here for social media wankery and doesn't actually have hardware skills" | 14:32 |
| splicer | The padlock is a very nice idea | 14:33 |
| splicer | I made a biopunk logo a few days back: http://biopunk.hu/ | 14:34 |
| QuantumG | I was talking to a guy who was putting together a quad copter the other month.. I'm like "so when are you putting a log of your experiences up?" and he started going on about all the other blogs that have already done that.. | 14:34 |
| kanzure | yeah.. i saw it on the 12th splicer | 14:35 |
| kanzure | http://www.biopunk.org/the-biopunk-biogear-logo-t596.html | 14:35 |
| QuantumG | 1. if he thought his experiences were going to be exactly the same as everyone else's, why bother? | 14:35 |
| splicer | yepp | 14:35 |
| kanzure | QuantumG: yeah.. i'd have to agree though, putting up yet-another-blog doesn't help as much as i.e. debian packaging | 14:35 |
| QuantumG | 2. last week he had a fatal flight and blew up a LiOH battery and nearly caused a fire.. he still hasn't posted anything on the experience. | 14:36 |
| uniqanomaly__ | "it’s sad, if not at all surprising, to find transhumanists not only lacking the faculties to evaluate self-mutilation as the self-destructive behavior of a person in need of help, but encouraging it — both by reporting on it so enthusiastically, and by fostering a subculture in which it could be understood as a laudable act of creation and self-expression." what the f*ck | 14:36 |
| kanzure | uniqanomaly__: what are you wtfing? | 14:37 |
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| uniqanomaly__ | kanzure: celebrating celf-mutiation | 14:37 |
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| QuantumG | self-improvement is masturbation.. now self-destruction.. | 14:37 |
| uniqanomaly__ | retards | 14:37 |
| kanzure | i know, but what's so what the fuck about it? | 14:37 |
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| kanzure | uniqanomaly__: check it out: ... "i have been known to slice my arms open for shits'n'giggles, sure, and do a fair amount of damage in the process (none of this emo cat-scratch bullshit, i've split my arm to the tendons like the little psychopath i sort of am), but this is not something i do when properly medicated. i need a better way of communicating that." | 14:37 |
| kanzure | uniqanomaly__: that's self-mutiliation. period. | 14:37 |
| uniqanomaly__ | their semi-logic | 14:37 |
| uniqanomaly__ | yeah because it's like you can go ask any physician to implant something in your finger | 14:38 |
| uniqanomaly__ | of course it wouldn't be any mutilation if he would do this | 14:40 |
| kanzure | implanting stuff in your finger isn't the same thing as self-mutiliation | 14:40 |
| kanzure | i think you're confused | 14:40 |
| Director_X | how about cosmetic mods? | 14:42 |
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| Director_X | as soon as they make a cybernetic limb that works just as well as the biological ones.... | 14:43 |
| Director_X | i'm cutting off my limbs | 14:43 |
| uniqanomaly__ | i wan't a tail | 14:44 |
| uniqanomaly__ | want | 14:44 |
| uniqanomaly__ | lul | 14:44 |
| uniqanomaly__ | like 1.5m tail | 14:44 |
| uniqanomaly__ | ;D | 14:44 |
| Director_X | sign me up for that too | 14:44 |
| Director_X | goat legs would be nice too | 14:45 |
| Director_X | robot goat legs | 14:45 |
| ThomasEgi | uniqanomaly__, grow some bones, and muscles, tissue engineer them to a tail, grow skin over it. your spine still has a few nerves left from the biological tail. altho your brain may have a hard time to learn how to use them properly. | 14:46 |
| Director_X | and you risk a 25% chance of getting cancer | 14:48 |
| ThomasEgi | why? | 14:50 |
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| ThomasEgi | if you just cultivate your already existing cells? | 14:51 |
| Director_X | hell if I know | 14:51 |
| Director_X | I wanted an extra finger, and this was the objection | 14:51 |
| Director_X | whats up Lukas? | 14:52 |
| Director_X | Lukas probably knows | 14:52 |
| Lukas___ | Hello | 14:53 |
| Lukas___ | can't stay for long, class soon (facepalm) | 14:53 |
| Lukas___ | what's up? | 14:53 |
| Director_X | talking about adding extra appendages | 14:53 |
| Lukas___ | stem cells FTW | 14:54 |
| Lukas___ | :P | 14:54 |
| Director_X | 25% cancer rate? | 14:54 |
| Lukas___ | to be honest, I am not entire sure how you could do that without accidently causing cancer | 14:54 |
| Lukas___ | there are some growth hormones that can be used, but to the same result as far as I know | 14:54 |
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| Director_X | damn cancer. why don't one you guys go ahead and find a cure for that real quick so I can get some extra digits | 14:56 |
| Director_X | and a tail | 14:56 |
| Director_X | fix that second law of thermodynamics too | 15:00 |
| * drazak bugs kanzure | 15:01 | |
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| ThomasEgi | Director_X, fixing that law is quite funny. one of my hobbies. my best try resulted in a 2 week long discussion amongst an entire physics-class at a university. their discussion ended with no real result. | 15:04 |
| Director_X | lol. sounds like my photonic conversations. | 15:05 |
| ThomasEgi | at least i made some 150 brains smoke :P | 15:06 |
| ThomasEgi | altho the device would be quite buildable. in case it really would've worked. the effect would me so tiny that it'D be of no pratical use. | 15:07 |
| ThomasEgi | was quite fun tho. | 15:07 |
| Director_X | sweet. any hint to the nature of the device? | 15:07 |
| ThomasEgi | brownian movement, magnetic particles a few µm in size, a coil, thermal insulation, a resistor. | 15:11 |
| ThomasEgi | and a few drops of water. | 15:11 |
| ThomasEgi | pretty much the best approach i had so far. dunno if it really would've worked. | 15:12 |
| ThomasEgi | if someone has a lab which is capable of producing microstructures i'd love to give it a try | 15:13 |
| Tyrant | kanzure, i bet you love the trailer on the website of transcendant man | 15:14 |
| Tyrant | its so visionary so predictive so... narcissistic :D | 15:14 |
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| Director_X | sounds cool | 15:18 |
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| jebba | timschmidt, cool, re: cgal bits :) | 15:34 |
| timschmidt | :) | 15:34 |
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| JayDugger | Good evening, everyone. | 17:49 |
| Jappe2 | yes | 18:01 |
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| delinquentme | /join #arduino | 18:07 |
| Jappe2 | no advertising plz | 18:10 |
| delinquentme | anyone know of any sweet ideas for liquid handling ?? i've looked into the bioTek type compression spindle and simple syringes .. anyone have anything better ?? | 18:13 |
| QuantumG | bottles seem pretty effective. | 18:13 |
| delinquentme | lol | 18:17 |
| delinquentme | QuantumG, this is true | 18:18 |
| delinquentme | i never realized it .. but i think thats what TECAN uses! | 18:18 |
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| JayDugger | I prefer pipes to bottles. | 18:49 |
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| delinquentme | JayDugger, im w you ... i cant decide between the ... http://88proof.com/synthetic_biology/blog/archives/461 | 18:52 |
| delinquentme | or just mounting plastic syringes and a screw / bearing drive to suction / expel from the syringes :D | 18:52 |
| delinquentme | VOTE! | 18:53 |
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| kanzure | drazak: i wasn't actually here tonight, so bugging me didn't count | 19:58 |
| kanzure | (although you could have tried phone) | 19:58 |
| kanzure | Tyrant: no, i don't like 'transcendant man' | 19:59 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: how about microfluidic reservoires instead? | 19:59 |
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| drazak | kanzure: I'm not a huge fan of phoning people just to bug them | 20:00 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, i was actually LOVING the fact that you can use microfluidic pressures as built in valves | 20:00 |
| delinquentme | but im not sure if thats what im after .. i think im going with the less flashy stepper driven syringes | 20:00 |
| kanzure | "syringe pumps" | 20:00 |
| kanzure | are ridiculously expensive.. i don't remember any particular reason they have to be other than "that's what the market pays" | 20:01 |
| delinquentme | http://www.microdialysis.se/public/file.php?REF=48ab2f9b45957ab574cf005eb8a76760&art=614&FILE_ID=20080226095207_1_2.pdf | 20:01 |
| delinquentme | yeah right! | 20:01 |
| delinquentme | look at that thing | 20:01 |
| delinquentme | its got buttons and shit .. all i need is a console and an arduino | 20:01 |
| delinquentme | and my damn ruby controller to work | 20:01 |
| kanzure | why do you have to program your controller in ruby | 20:02 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, my partner in crime is thinking python | 20:03 |
| delinquentme | im just trying to learn along w this project | 20:03 |
| delinquentme | honestly im just pissed at the footwork im doing , | 20:04 |
| kanzure | what is the actual project | 20:04 |
| delinquentme | ive already got a rails app > telnet > router > arduino > stepper control going | 20:04 |
| delinquentme | CURRENTLY id just like to get precision step control over the motor via a rails app | 20:04 |
| delinquentme | currently im using char type vars .. which lead to weird ascii interpretations | 20:05 |
| kanzure | so wait.. why are you using rails to directly control a stepper? | 20:05 |
| kanzure | how about using a stepper controller instead | 20:05 |
| delinquentme | im unsure if i can send strict integers | 20:05 |
| kanzure | rails is for webapps | 20:05 |
| delinquentme | correct | 20:05 |
| kanzure | not for interfacing hardware.. you should write a daemon or use one and then interface rails to that.. | 20:06 |
| delinquentme | well when you say stepper controller wouldn't that be an arduino in this case? | 20:06 |
| kanzure | lemme guess. you're sending commands over libhid from rails? | 20:06 |
| delinquentme | i literally have no clue as to whats the best way to go about this .. so im all ears | 20:06 |
| delinquentme | nah telnet | 20:07 |
| delinquentme | rails app > telnet > router > arduino > stepper control going | 20:07 |
| delinquentme | the serial pick up strings sent over telnet and uses those as input for the stepper | 20:07 |
| kanzure | so again, what are you using this for specifically? | 20:07 |
| kanzure | just learning, or is your stepper doing something | 20:08 |
| delinquentme | well the grand vision is id like to see a local server running as what i call a "conductor" | 20:08 |
| kanzure | that means nothing to me | 20:08 |
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| delinquentme | so the conductor controls a bunch of arduinos | 20:09 |
| delinquentme | arduinos hooked up to thinks like liquid handling pieces | 20:09 |
| kanzure | what do the "liquid handling pieces" actually do | 20:09 |
| delinquentme | microscopy adjustments | 20:09 |
| delinquentme | suck up water .. place them in some container .. possibly microplates | 20:09 |
| delinquentme | or fix them up some way to do automatic slide prep | 20:10 |
| delinquentme | miniprep > pcr > gel electro would be awesome | 20:10 |
| delinquentme | but thats still a bit out | 20:10 |
| kanzure | okay. so you want all of your lab equipment on /dev/ basically | 20:10 |
| delinquentme | /dev/ | 20:11 |
| delinquentme | ^^?? | 20:11 |
| kanzure | are you a linux user | 20:11 |
| delinquentme | yeah | 20:11 |
| kanzure | ... | 20:11 |
| delinquentme | ubuntu | 20:11 |
| kanzure | well anyway, i'm going to ignore that comment | 20:11 |
| delinquentme | sure | 20:11 |
| kanzure | i recommend you write some non-rails-related server for conducting that lab/computer setup | 20:11 |
| delinquentme | automation of processes | 20:11 |
| kanzure | there's no particular reason to make it rails-specific | 20:12 |
| delinquentme | you're talking C++ | 20:12 |
| kanzure | and it just burdens the architecture | 20:12 |
| kanzure | no i'm not talking c++ | 20:12 |
| kanzure | if you like ruby so much, do it in ruby | 20:12 |
| kanzure | but depending on rails seems pointless | 20:12 |
| delinquentme | so conductor interfaces with arduinos | 20:13 |
| delinquentme | same setup .. what protocol between them though | 20:13 |
| delinquentme | stright up tcp was another suggestion | 20:13 |
| delinquentme | or i guess ruby supports serial port | 20:14 |
| kanzure | i would write a protocol that works on top of serial/tcp/usb and then you shouldn't care which one is used | 20:14 |
| delinquentme | hmmm | 20:15 |
| delinquentme | damn im really feeling clueless right now | 20:15 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure, ok so that sounds like a good idea .. where do i even start learning how to write protocols which are "on top of" serial tcp usb | 20:17 |
| delinquentme | im not sure if i could tell a good idea from a bad one right now but ... | 20:18 |
| kanzure | you figure out what you need to send to each device | 20:21 |
| kanzure | ite those details down | 20:21 |
| kanzure | *write those details down | 20:21 |
| kanzure | then write a few methods: one to translate it to something that can be sent over serial, one for over usb, whatever | 20:22 |
| kanzure | in many cases there won't be much of a difference.. | 20:22 |
| delinquentme | ok i think i can work w that | 20:22 |
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| ybit | http://heath.blip.tv/file/4772416/ | 21:10 |
| ybit | recordmydesktop :\ | 21:10 |
| ybit | would be nice to use this as opposed to vlc + audacity | 21:10 |
| ybit | also... does anyone know someone willing to review a guy's paper in #neuroscience? | 21:11 |
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