2011-03-06.log

--- Log opened Sun Mar 06 00:00:10 2011
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LukasGood morning04:20
JayDuggerGood morning.04:25
LukasDid I miss anything important?04:27
JayDuggerI don't knowl04:27
JayDuggerknow.04:27
JayDuggerPretty04:27
JayDuggerPretty quiet so far.04:27
LukasAlright, thanks04:28
Lukashopefully I'll have a decent 'status report' for you guys in a month or so04:29
Lukasbetween iGEM, biohack.me, and a potential transhumanist organization at my University, there is a lot going on04:30
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Utopiahhttp://www.peerevaluation.org/about-peer-evaluation/http://www.peerevaluation.org/about-peer-evaluation/05:42
Utopiahor rather http://www.peerevaluation.org/about-peer-evaluation/05:42
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ENKI-][kanzure: http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/03/opencog-artificial-general-intelligence.html <-- seen this nonsense yet?06:51
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kanzurediybio newcastle http://diybioncl.eventbrite.com08:26
kanzureENKI-][: yeah :( ben goertzel is really good at trying to make opencog seem relevant08:26
kanzurei have no idea how he managed to get opencog into google summer of code that one year08:27
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kanzureaw don't tell me the russians are becoming softies http://immortaz.livejournal.com/125467.html08:36
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ThomasEgikanzure, the whole world is becoming soft ;)08:39
ThomasEgiat least in average08:39
kanzureso what you're saying is we need a global hottie to make everyone hard?08:41
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ThomasEgino. let the world do what they want. just dont let them influence you.08:42
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kanzureha i didn't know the biobricks site was hosted on openwetware.org http://bbf.openwetware.org/08:56
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ENKI-][kanzure: it's fairly frightening. opencog is prolog written in lisp with multivalue logic and a standard library of truisms. it's far too neat to be of use to AGI projects.09:44
kanzureiirc there's a nice hypergraph library in there09:45
ENKI-][not that it's fundamentally useless, but it won't give anybody an AGI in polynomial time by itself09:45
ENKI-][don't get me wrong. i like it. but it won't become a toddler in twelve years. it won't even become a cat in twelve years, whereas blue brain will become a cat in six09:46
kanzureactually, blue brain lost funding09:46
kanzurelast i heard.09:46
kanzureIBM announced they simulated a cat cortex09:46
kanzurehenry said "it's just the same number of neurons, it's not really a cat structure"09:47
kanzurethen IBM yanked some (all?) of his fundin09:47
kanzurefunding09:47
ENKI-][>.<09:51
ENKI-][that's no fun09:51
kanzureENKI-][: have you ever played with NEURON?09:56
kanzurei'm p. sure that's what markram's group uses09:56
kanzureit was nicer than i thought it would be09:56
kanzureit uses some domain-specific language for defining ion channels, ions and various concentrations and gradients09:57
kanzureif anything it would be neat to at least figure out a way to render images like this:09:59
kanzurehttp://www.hiddengarments.cn/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/blue-brain-project.jpg09:59
kanzurebut sometimes it looks like they change their rendering http://documents.epfl.ch/groups/e/e-/e-news/www/nov-dec_2007/Inside_Network_enews.jpg10:00
kanzurehttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a6500SnWswg/SNPc2SHXYvI/AAAAAAAABGg/EYgsKUArnw0/s400/ieeecolumn.jpe10:01
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ENKI-][kanzure: will it run on a bitty netbook with 32-bit linux?10:18
kanzure*shrug* sure10:19
kanzurejust not a hundred trillion neurons ;)10:19
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kanzurewow11:28
kanzuremarshall brain sold howstuffworks.com to Discovery Communications in 2007 for $250 million11:28
kanzuremarshall has money?11:29
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ybithrm12:13
ybitkanzure: linkage to blue brain losing funding12:13
ybithttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Brain_Project#Funding12:14
ybitcajal blue brain12:14
ybitnow there's something i didn't know about12:15
ybithttp://cajalbbp.cesvima.upm.es/12:15
ybitone more thing to do while i'm in spain12:16
kanzureh+ is looking for an editor for hplusmagazine12:26
kanzureif any of you want the role you can have it, but it only pays $400/mo12:26
jrabbitI think I mgiht have a friend who'd be intrested whats the workload like?12:50
kanzurelots of pestering of authors to get them to submit articles12:51
kanzurerejecting shitty articles12:51
kanzureso.. like all of them12:52
jrabbithaha.12:52
jrabbitI'll let him know12:52
ybitand how much time...12:54
jrabbitGot an email I can tell him to reply to?12:54
* ybit is cleansing friends list12:54
jrabbitoh I found it kanzure.12:54
ybitabout 500 more to go12:54
jrabbitemailed my journo-curious friend12:55
kanzurejrabbit: what email did you find?12:55
jrabbitkanzure@gmail.com on your website :P12:56
kanzureoh email address. ok12:56
kanzurei learned of this via an email so i thought you had that12:56
jrabbitnah12:56
jrabbiteh oh well :P12:56
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kanzurejrabbit: ok i got the email from grant13:30
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kanzurehi fenn13:59
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kanzure"exome sequencing for just $2,000" http://www.axeq.com/axeq_en.html15:13
ybitwho is peter lai15:44
ybitkanzure, he's a mutual friend on facebook15:44
ybitbut you're the only mutual friend15:44
* ybit is purging fbook friends he doesn't know or care about15:44
ybitjust curious about this guy since he lives in alabama15:45
ybitoh well, removed, don't care15:45
kanzureybit: he's cowbert15:59
kanzureiirc he does some sysadmin work15:59
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ybithttp://ingenuitas.com/16:59
ybit"At Ingenuitas, we're working to build an Open Innovation ecosystem in today's manufacturing marketplace. Our mission is lowering the barriers for collaboration for companies using computer vision, data aquisition, and robotics. "16:59
kanzurebackyard brains is up to no good :) http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2011/03/remote-controlled-cockroach.html17:00
ybitnice17:02
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kanzuregrandma wants to read 'the singularity is near' what do i do19:29
kanzurei should probably just have her watch some andrew hessel videos instead19:29
drazak_is she afraid you'll get possessed by the devil?19:30
kanzureybit's theory is that she has my stalking gene and is just honing in on my interests more sharply19:35
kanzurei wouldn't be surprised if she /joins this chan19:36
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ybitsounds like a cool grandma20:17
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kanzurejrayhawk: !! if this was slightly more coherent it could top time cube20:38
kanzurehttp://www.transalchemy.com/2011/03/summoning-judgement-day.html20:38
kanzurei especially like the parts about eliezer20:38
kanzureand michael vassar20:38
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mjrkanzure, ...21:31
kanzuremjr: ?21:39
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kanzureybit: you're probably into this http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers/Circular%20multilateral%20barter.pdf22:49
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