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| JayDugger | Good morning, everyone. | 01:13 |
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| alystair | what's so good about it | 01:57 |
| JayDugger | Breathing. | 02:01 |
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| JayDugger | I just noticed that VLC does screen recording. | 02:36 |
| JayDugger | It also very nicely captures video from my webcam. | 02:36 |
| JayDugger | This makes it pretty easy to synchronize my point of attention by eye gaze and mouse tracking (IOGraph) with the desktop screen capture. | 02:38 |
| JayDugger | Any ideas on how to use that in some constructive fashion? | 02:38 |
| JayDugger | I haven't the skill to see how to use it for UI improvement, such as eye tracking or gesture recognition. | 02:38 |
| JayDugger | It could serve for remote troubleshooting. E.g., your mother calls with some computer problem. You ask her what time the problem happened, and then playback the files that span her problem. | 02:49 |
| JayDugger | You can then see what happened on screen, and you can also see the simultaneous facial expression. This lets you tell where she became confused. | 02:50 |
| JayDugger | That has obvious privacy problems. | 02:51 |
| Utopiah | (didn't know http://www.brl.ntt.co.jp/people/takehiko/ nor http://iographica.com/ ) | 02:58 |
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| Utopiah | the kind of practical use I had with a webcam on myself was a software to track head position and see if you are well seated and warn you when you are not but I didn't explore that a lot anyway | 03:04 |
| JayDugger | I used IOGraph, but it told me very little. I think this happens because I touch-type and because I use xmonad, a tiling window manager. | 03:05 |
| JayDugger | I'd like to replace my keyboard with an overhead camera that watches my hands. That doesn't seem quite practical yet. | 03:07 |
| JayDugger | Gack...and Firefox 4 breaks all my most useful extensions. | 03:09 |
| JayDugger | http://flic.kr/p/82F3q2 | 03:12 |
| JayDugger | That shows a day's worth of IOgraph output. | 03:12 |
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| JayDugger | Now, if I could figure out why I can't stream the capture. | 04:43 |
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| mjr | Simulations: http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2203#comic | 07:15 |
| JayDugger | ... | 08:06 |
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| Guest62404 | Good morning | 08:14 |
| JayDugger | Good morning. | 08:16 |
| kanzure | oh boy.. h+ is now claiming that i'm "unprofessional" for not indefinitely fixing bugs on the hplusmagazine.com work | 08:25 |
| kanzure | we didn't even have a contract | 08:26 |
| JayDugger | "Get it writing." It's an adage for a reason. | 08:30 |
| kanzure | "Half of the work my company Novamente LLC does for customers is donevia "handshake" arrangements without contracts." | 09:00 |
| kanzure | "The magazine is crap now, and it is YOUR fault" | 09:00 |
| kanzure | then pay me to fix it? | 09:00 |
| JayDugger | ... | 09:00 |
| kanzure | i don't really want to work for goertzel, he is being extremely hostile | 09:00 |
| JayDugger | Novamente's business practices don't necessarily set a precedent. | 09:00 |
| kanzure | oh well. always get a contract upfront | 09:01 |
| JayDugger | Lesson learned? | 09:01 |
| kanzure | it's unfortunate that he thinks negatively of me now | 09:01 |
| kanzure | but it's worrisome that he's furious- he might hurt himself | 09:01 |
| JayDugger | And that's your responsibility? | 09:01 |
| kanzure | nope | 09:01 |
| JayDugger | There you go. | 09:01 |
| kanzure | maybe i should tell h+ that i'm "leaving" them | 09:02 |
| kanzure | and that when goertzel is gone i'd be happy to consider any formal contracting arrangements | 09:02 |
| JayDugger | Give it a day or two. That will give you a chance to avoid making a mistake in haste. | 09:03 |
| kanzure | (actually, i don't think i would be) | 09:03 |
| JayDugger | You might not, true. It becomes even less likely if you exercise patience. | 09:03 |
| kanzure | it's a little weird though, why didn't ben insist on a contract? | 09:03 |
| kanzure | if he really has all that business experience, he should know better | 09:04 |
| JayDugger | Bad habit on his part? | 09:04 |
| kanzure | and he probably does, which means he purposefully put me in this situation | 09:04 |
| kanzure | disappointing.. | 09:04 |
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| JayDugger | That's plausible speculation, but not necessarily a deduction. | 09:04 |
| JayDugger | Man...I feel like Eliza. | 09:04 |
| kanzure | "And how does that make you feel?" | 09:05 |
| JayDugger | Like I should stop wasting bandwidth and start the emacs server. :) | 09:05 |
| kanzure | so the normal contract that i use is the typical one for companies/corporations | 09:07 |
| kanzure | where they own all of the resulting "IP" | 09:07 |
| kanzure | for a non-profit, i'm not so sure what that contract would've looked like | 09:07 |
| JayDugger | Why change it? | 09:07 |
| kanzure | because non-profits don't have the same contracting requirements, presumably | 09:08 |
| JayDugger | I've not done non-profit work. | 09:08 |
| JayDugger | I can't talk with any knowledge. | 09:11 |
| kanzure | wut? i wonder what the paper says | 09:20 |
| kanzure | http://politics.slashdot.org/story/11/04/03/0241232/Engineering-Election-Debates-With-Subtle-Cues | 09:20 |
| kanzure | http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0018154 | 09:20 |
| JayDugger | Good night, everyone. | 09:26 |
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| jebbafuego | JayDugger: hey, Gary Johnson certainly supports DYI Bio. When i brought it up to him, he expounded on the rights to sell your own body parts, for example.... | 11:35 |
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| kanzure | just never the whole package at once? | 11:51 |
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| kanzure | heh kartik called me up to ask me to edit gadaprize.org (tom screwed it up a bit) | 14:23 |
| kanzure | and i don't know if i should or not | 14:23 |
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| kanzure | fenn: you around today? | 17:34 |
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| tom_mccabe | Hey all | 17:42 |
| tom_mccabe | This is Tom McCabe, I'm Executive Director of Humanity+ | 17:42 |
| kanzure | fenn is cooking, he'll be around in a few minutes. | 17:42 |
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| tom_mccabe | @kanzure: OK | 17:42 |
| Daeken | tom_mccabe: welcome! :) | 17:42 |
| kanzure | Daeken: we're trying to figure out a way for humanity+ to give fenn money without micromanaging him or fucking him over | 17:43 |
| Daeken | for what? | 17:43 |
| kanzure | open source wearable computer + heads-up display / scouter | 17:43 |
| Daeken | ahh, i see | 17:43 |
| tom_mccabe | I personally would not micromanage anyone (I don't have the time, quite frankly ;) ) | 17:44 |
| tom_mccabe | But be warned that there is a lot of politics on the Humanity+ Board | 17:44 |
| kanzure | yeah, so avoiding the politics would be important | 17:44 |
| kanzure | (otherwise h+ is useless) | 17:44 |
| kanzure | i.e. it'd be easier to just raise the money through other channels | 17:44 |
| kanzure | tom_mccabe: btw, the new link to the projects is this: | 17:45 |
| kanzure | er, to my projects list i gave you a while back | 17:45 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/diytranshuman_projects.v4.html | 17:47 |
| tom_mccabe | @kanzure: Right, got it | 17:53 |
| kanzure | what possible mechanisms can you use to make sure h+ doesn't taint these projects? | 17:56 |
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| kanzure | oh well it's probably a bad idea to associate with him | 18:01 |
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| kanzure | hi fenn | 18:04 |
| kanzure | Daeken: given these recent developments i doubt i can get you in | 18:09 |
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| kanzure | i asked a few days ago and they said "oh he can be a lightning talk" which is basically shit | 18:09 |
| kanzure | (they also asked me to do a "lightning talk") | 18:09 |
| Daeken | kanzure: a lightning talk would be cool, really. means less padding ;) | 18:09 |
| kanzure | ok. email natasha@natasha.cc | 18:10 |
| Daeken | ok, will do -- thanks :) | 18:10 |
| kanzure | make sure you don't have to pay for registration | 18:10 |
| Daeken | yea | 18:10 |
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| tom_mccabe | Hey all | 18:19 |
| tom_mccabe | Am back, sorry about that, buggy IRC client | 18:19 |
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| JayDugger | Good evening, everyone. | 18:21 |
| JayDugger | Hello, Tom McCabe. | 18:30 |
| tom_mccabe | Hey | 18:32 |
| tom_mccabe | Is fenn online? | 18:32 |
| JayDugger | Not recently, according to my chat client. | 18:32 |
| kanzure | tom_mccabe: i wasn't "unwilling", i was _unable_ | 18:34 |
| kanzure | but now i'm unwilling :) haha | 18:34 |
| * kanzure has been looking at dwarf fortress today | 18:35 | |
| kanzure | http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/screens.html | 18:36 |
| kanzure | http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/features.html | 18:36 |
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| JayDugger | Yes, yes... | 18:54 |
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| JayDugger | Good night, everyone. | 19:34 |
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