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| kanzure | apparently i never put this online? | 08:27 |
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| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/thingiverse/2010scraper/thingiverse.py | 08:27 |
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| kanzure | fenn: oh, one of us should eventually add links to examples in package_spec.yaml | 09:12 |
| Drakkar | 'lo folks | 09:18 |
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| kanzure | hello Drakkar | 09:25 |
| kanzure | Drakkar: you seem to be from SA? | 09:33 |
| Drakkar | I am | 09:36 |
| Drakkar | though SA didn't really lead me here | 09:36 |
| Drakkar | I sort of meandered this way on my own | 09:36 |
| kanzure | Drakkar: any reason in particular? | 09:41 |
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| Drakkar | ah naw, other than being interested in the movement on a personal level | 09:51 |
| kanzure | movement? | 09:53 |
| Drakkar | yeah, the recent surge of transhumanist stuff | 09:54 |
| Drakkar | I mean technically the world has always been transhumanist, especially with medical science | 09:54 |
| Drakkar | but still | 09:54 |
| kanzure | ah okay. "movement" could have meant anything going on in here.. the hardware stuff, transhumanist stuff, diybio stuff, etc. | 09:55 |
| Drakkar | yeah | 09:55 |
| Drakkar | I'm actually a big fan of all of it | 09:55 |
| Drakkar | haha | 09:55 |
| kanzure | someone was reading "biopunk" the other day and saw my name in it, so he called me up | 09:58 |
| kanzure | so now i'm leaving for lunch in a few minutes with this guy | 09:58 |
| kanzure | claims he has a few things to bring up.. should be interesting. works as the owner of some merger/acquisitions company? | 09:59 |
| Drakkar | interesting | 10:00 |
| kanzure | stalk: alexandre guedes | 10:17 |
| kanzure | i don't know why i know this name, but apparently he was doing brlcad work at some point | 10:18 |
| kanzure | cool brlcad "has permission from the boole authors to do what we want with boole" | 10:20 |
| Drakkar | haha | 10:22 |
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| kanzure | huh that went better than i thought it would | 12:19 |
| kanzure | he wanted to start a project so i thought it would be something ridiculous | 12:20 |
| kanzure | instead, he just wants to play around with a used dna sequencer | 12:20 |
| Drakkar | hah | 12:38 |
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| kanzure | Tyrant: so, i told the guy that he should probably just buy the same model dna sequencer as socal-diybio | 13:31 |
| kanzure | that way, he can follow along with you guys | 13:31 |
| kanzure | it's an abi prism 301 right? | 13:32 |
| kanzure | http://socal-diybio.org/Gene_Sequencer | 13:32 |
| kanzure | oh.. 310 | 13:32 |
| kanzure | well that changes everything | 13:32 |
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| kanzure | it sounded like you had a lot of problems with it though | 13:48 |
| kanzure | argon laser not working, etc. | 13:48 |
| kanzure | Tyrant: anyway, if you have any hints that'd be cool | 13:49 |
| kanzure | if it's not worth it to buy a broken abi prism then i'll just tell him to spend $4k or whatever to get something that works | 13:49 |
| kanzure | haha i like how ABI's "application notes" are crazy | 13:53 |
| kanzure | "A workflow for reliable resequencing of human mitochondrial genomes" | 13:53 |
| kanzure | take that, atmel "How to make an AVR blink" ANs | 13:54 |
| kanzure | see https://products.appliedbiosystems.com/ab/en/US/adirect/ab?cmd=catNavigate2&catID=600525&tab=Literature | 13:58 |
| kanzure | i wonder if raymond can get me a deal on an illumina | 14:08 |
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| Tyrant | Hey kanzure | 15:25 |
| Jappe2 | uploading | 15:34 |
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| kanzure | heh adrian is teaching reprap classes now http://blog.reprap.org/2011/04/uk-reprap-master-class.html | 17:02 |
| kanzure | also, numbers: http://blog.reprap.org/2011/04/rewriting-history.html | 17:05 |
| kanzure | oh god they are still using blender | 17:31 |
| kanzure | http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/2011/04/going-digital/ | 17:31 |
| kanzure | i know opencascade is awful but they should at least use that | 17:31 |
| kanzure | http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/2011/04/explosion-after-the-online-ted-talk/ | 17:34 |
| kanzure | "completion of the GVCS by 2012," | 17:38 |
| kanzure | fenn: http://www.mangafox.com/manga/blame_nse/c000/1.html | 18:30 |
| Tyrant | hey kanzure | 18:34 |
| Tyrant | that tag cloud you have was written in python right? | 18:34 |
| kanzure | yes | 18:49 |
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| Tyrant | kanzure, can you link me to the source again? | 19:17 |
| kanzure | it's somewhere in here: http://diyhpl.us/cgit/meetlog | 19:21 |
| Tyrant | alright thank yuo | 19:34 |
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| kanzure | new henry markram talk http://www.brainforum.it/brainforum-2011-ondemand | 19:48 |
| kanzure | mentioned here: http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/48583-new-talk-of-henry-markram/ | 19:48 |
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| ybit | nice | 19:53 |
| ybit | thx for the link | 19:53 |
| ybit | btw.. | 19:53 |
| * ybit is alive! w00t. | 19:53 | |
| ybit | tornadoes can't touch this | 19:53 |
| kanzure | pussy, you should have gone tornado hunting! | 19:54 |
| ybit | the "completion of the GVCS by 2012" wasn't as interesting as "first working post-scarcity community created by 2014" | 19:55 |
| kanzure | GVCS seems more interesting to me | 19:55 |
| ybit | that's an excellent idea | 19:55 |
| kanzure | a "working community" that isn't replicable is worthless | 19:55 |
| ybit | tornado hunting | 19:55 |
| ybit | i'm just curious how it turns out | 19:56 |
| ybit | they seem to be more skilled than me considering i'm doing good just to construct a building for my crap | 19:57 |
| kanzure | "more skilled" what? | 19:58 |
| ybit | they already have 3 buildings and ~6 machines! :) | 19:58 |
| kanzure | i have trouble remembering that not everyone is a learning sponge | 19:58 |
| ybit | more manpower and money helps | 19:58 |
| kanzure | iirc they have no money | 19:59 |
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| ybit | also, while a tornado was passing through, a psychiatrist decided i most likely have asperger's... seems to be the popular diagnosis for psychiatrists these days | 19:59 |
| ybit | all i want is adderall, is that too much to ask? | 19:59 |
| ybit | http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/adrafinil.modafinil.html ftw | 20:00 |
| kanzure | guy i met today was like "if only there was a drug that lets me stay awake longer" | 20:01 |
| kanzure | GOOD NEWS | 20:01 |
| ybit | heh | 20:01 |
| ybit | "it's called loud music!" | 20:01 |
| Drakkar | lmao ybit | 20:01 |
| ybit | and crack | 20:01 |
| kanzure | crack through the eyes | 20:02 |
| ybit | how much money did you make off that guy? did you tell him it was fine bolivian crack? ;) | 20:02 |
| ybit | speaking of rhetorical questions, what has charlie/genehacker been up to? | 20:06 |
| kanzure | no clue | 20:06 |
| ybit | you live closest to him | 20:06 |
| ybit | you should know | 20:06 |
| kanzure | yes but when you're in school it's a blackhole | 20:06 |
| kanzure | he might be out of school.. dunno | 20:06 |
| JayDugger | kanzure, do you know of any reliable reports comparing modafinil with adderall for ADD/ADHD? | 20:07 |
| ybit | hrm, i haven't looked yet | 20:07 |
| ybit | you can try scholar.google.com | 20:07 |
| ybit | and paste what you find | 20:07 |
| kanzure | JayDugger: no | 20:08 |
| ybit | i've got a nice report on alternative treatments for ADD | 20:08 |
| JayDugger | Link? | 20:08 |
| ybit | it basically lets you know that all the alt treatments suck | 20:08 |
| ybit | sec, i'll upload, don't want to google | 20:09 |
| JayDugger | Ha! | 20:09 |
| JayDugger | Never mind, then. | 20:09 |
| JayDugger | Thank you both nonetheless. | 20:09 |
| ybit | Oh, okay. | 20:10 |
| ybit | Nutrients and Botanicals for Treatment of Stress: Neurotransmitter Imbalance, Anxiety, and Restless Sleep is a good paper as well | 20:10 |
| kanzure | JayDugger: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/adderall.txt | 20:11 |
| kanzure | i used to have a /adderall directory but i see it has no contents even locally. i wonder where that went | 20:12 |
| AJollyLife | JayDugger: ive tried both, modafinil feels cleaner. although i can say personally that being continiously on adhd meds ends badly for me | 20:12 |
| kanzure | "However, mean plasma concentration is prolonged by 2.5 hours (using a 900 calorie standard high-fat meal as the control)." | 20:13 |
| kanzure | AJollyLife: i've been on adderall for over a decade, | 20:13 |
| kanzure | and when i go a month off of it, i seem to be ok | 20:13 |
| kanzure | so i am very lucky :) | 20:13 |
| AJollyLife | nice | 20:13 |
| kanzure | otherwise i'd be fucked :x | 20:14 |
| AJollyLife | me off adhd meds is much more fun, social, outgoing, less depressy, ect | 20:14 |
| AJollyLife | but I get so little done. its a pain :( | 20:14 |
| kanzure | haha wow the notes in adderall.txt are kind of ridiculous | 20:16 |
| kanzure | "ok fuck this proprietary tech, here's the CEO's phone number, here's his maid's phone number: " | 20:16 |
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| delinquentme_ | umm anyone happen to know if the stemcells harvested from teeth are legit pluripotent or not? | 20:17 |
| kanzure | it doesn't matter you can make any stem cell pluripotent these days | 20:18 |
| ybit | JayDugger: this may be the lamest site to upload to but, i've a problem with nginx and i don't feel like poking around | 20:18 |
| ybit | http://www.2shared.com/document/d5qDVNK7/Nutrients_and_Botanicals_for_T.html | 20:18 |
| ybit | http://www.2shared.com/document/NVPf8P-E/Alternative_Treatments_for_Adu.html | 20:18 |
| kanzure | delinquentme_: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/stem-cells/Generation%20of%20human%20induced%20pluripotent%20stem%20cells%20by%20delivery%20of%20reprogramming%20proteins.pdf | 20:18 |
| kanzure | delinquentme_: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/stem-cells/Generation%20of%20induced%20pluripotent%20stem%20cells%20using%20recombinant%20proteins.pdf | 20:18 |
| kanzure | delinquentme_: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/stem-cells/Generation%20of%20mouse-induced%20pluripotent%20stem%20cells%20by%20transient%20expression%20of%20a%20single%20nonviral%20polycistronic%20vector.pdf | 20:19 |
| kanzure | "quick facts" http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/stem-cells/Induced%20pluripotent%20stem%20cells%20-%20quick%20facts.pdf | 20:19 |
| delinquentme_ | ive heard about that | 20:19 |
| kanzure | "brief overview" http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/stem-cells/brief%20overview%20of%20methods%20for%20reprogramming%20to%20induced%20pluripotency.pdf | 20:19 |
| delinquentme_ | now are reversed pluris as differentiable as embronic? | 20:19 |
| kanzure | and some notes: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/stem-cells/notes.txt | 20:19 |
| delinquentme_ | why hasnt this gotten more publicity | 20:22 |
| kanzure | it did for a while :) | 20:22 |
| kanzure | but yes it's great | 20:23 |
| delinquentme_ | like i cant help but think theres a catch.. | 20:23 |
| delinquentme_ | or do regular people just not give a shit? | 20:23 |
| kanzure | the catch: you need to be able to do stem cell cultures | 20:23 |
| kanzure | "regular people" aren't running stem cell cultures | 20:23 |
| delinquentme_ | but any old lab can run the cultures cant they? | 20:24 |
| kanzure | i suppose.. if the professor is interested | 20:24 |
| kanzure | and if they have funding | 20:24 |
| kanzure | and if they are allowed to.. etc. | 20:24 |
| delinquentme_ | ahh | 20:24 |
| delinquentme_ | thoughts on cryoing the stem cells within wisdom teeth? | 20:24 |
| kanzure | none- haven't thought about that much | 20:25 |
| kanzure | i think someone published a diybio guide to harvesting stem cells though | 20:25 |
| delinquentme_ | about to get mine yanked and i cant see any reason why NOT to | 20:25 |
| kanzure | i remember it was really incomplete :( but it might be around the webz | 20:25 |
| kanzure | yeah you can probably find something on protocol-online.net | 20:25 |
| kanzure | Drakkar: is this what you were looking for? | 20:27 |
| delinquentme_ | fuck yeah dude | 20:31 |
| delinquentme_ | "sucessfully maintained for more than 35 passages" ? | 20:32 |
| kanzure | cool but i really did mean Drakkar | 20:32 |
| delinquentme_ | 35 cultures? | 20:32 |
| kanzure | delinquentme_: probably the transformations? | 20:32 |
| kanzure | maybe | 20:32 |
| Drakkar | hahaha | 20:35 |
| delinquentme_ | cool im passing out | 20:37 |
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| kanzure | back | 23:16 |
| kanzure | Tyrant: do you know how much you guys paid for the prism 310? | 23:27 |
| Tyrant | nothing | 23:28 |
| Tyrant | it was free | 23:28 |
| kanzure | ok | 23:32 |
| kanzure | the "neighborly" thing for me to do would be to buy the same model | 23:32 |
| kanzure | On Apr 28, 8:07 pm, Gavin Scott <ga...@allegro.com> wrote: | 23:54 |
| kanzure | > | 23:54 |
| kanzure | > I personally think it's probably not a good idea for the DIYbio movement to | 23:54 |
| kanzure | > get associated with projects like this. | 23:54 |
| kanzure | It's about on par with asking people to eat two sticks of butter or 2 | 23:54 |
| kanzure | cups of coconut oil every day, long term, to measure their cognitive | 23:54 |
| kanzure | abilities -- something that's clearly guesstimated by current medicine | 23:54 |
| kanzure | to be bad for the health. Compare differing projects with equal | 23:54 |
| kanzure | weighting. | 23:54 |
| kanzure | haha | 23:55 |
| kanzure | ahahah | 23:55 |
| kanzure | (Although, the fact that something might be bad for health doesn't defer from whether or not it actually improves any mental ability, etc.) | 23:56 |
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