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| kanzure | hi all | 05:22 |
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| archels_ | hello kanzure | 05:29 |
| archels_ | I think I better go to the library to study or I'll end up just browsing gizmodo all day long. | 05:29 |
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| fenn | "Marvlix was developed by means of Elixir Industry's proprietary technology, which applies nanotechnology to a bio-enhanced extraction process. The technology utilizes electro-potential method to extract selected molecules preferentially, on the basis of predefined molecular profiles, and then bio-activates the compounds extracted. The process completely eliminates heavy metals, contaminants and toxic compounds commonly found in traditional herbal produc | 09:11 |
| fenn | wow sign me up!!!~ | 09:11 |
| fenn | oh the formatting didnt carry over, but "nanotechnology" was both bold and italic | 09:12 |
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| Utopiah | http://www.technologyreview.com/ontopic/themeasuredlife/ is finally up | 09:40 |
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| kanzure | fenn: "bio-activates" wheee | 09:51 |
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| Utopiah | are there studies on the type of light received before going to bed (e.g. natural sunset, artificial light but reflected on paper, computer screen light, etc) and their impact on sleep? | 13:03 |
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| kanzure | $50k/paper? http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2679928 | 14:43 |
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| kanzure | hrm.. https://market.android.com/details?id=com.kyotoap.android.sleepcyclealarmlite | 16:59 |
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| kanzure | didn't the iphone version use an armband or something? | 16:59 |
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| fenn | Utopiah: yes, the conclusion is that blue light disproportionately affects phase shift, presumably because increased brightness in other colors will cause the pupil to contract and limit the amount of blue light activating retinal ganglion cells | 18:57 |
| fenn | artificial light such as monitors and fluorescent bulbs contains much more blue than the sky near sunset | 18:58 |
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| kanzure | anselm on "making psychedelic E.coli in your gut" http://groups.google.com/group/diybio/msg/1b1cd26e52080779 | 20:17 |
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| fenn | what he doesn't mention is that the yeast pathway is much cleaner than ergot, which produces lots of similar ergoloids that aren't LSA but are similar enough to complicate the synthesis process | 20:34 |
| genehacker | growing ergot? now why would you want to do that? | 20:41 |
| genehacker | ergot is nasty stuff | 20:42 |
| kanzure | who are you | 20:42 |
| genehacker | I am back | 20:42 |
| kanzure | WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH GENE | 20:42 |
| genehacker | he is now back | 20:43 |
| genehacker | any what's been happening lately? | 20:46 |
| fenn | i love that the guy's name is wintermute | 20:46 |
| fenn | http://img.ly/images/1213115/full | 20:47 |
| kanzure | pam silver also sounds fake | 20:48 |
| genehacker | NSF funded too, that's pretty suspect | 20:51 |
| kanzure | genehacker: i've been thinking about http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/ultrasound/ | 20:51 |
| genehacker | ultrasonic brain stimulation? | 20:51 |
| kanzure | yes | 20:51 |
| genehacker | hmmm... wonder if you could pick up an ultrasonograph with a phased array and do something like that | 20:53 |
| kanzure | pulsed ultrasound actually works | 20:54 |
| kanzure | just a standard collimator and some skin gel shit | 20:54 |
| kanzure | collimeter? | 20:54 |
| kanzure | collimator, i think | 20:54 |
| kanzure | i mean, pulsed ultrasound can work with a phased array as well, but i mean this type: | 20:54 |
| kanzure | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGEP6iWLsvQ | 20:54 |
| genehacker | collimator they use them in laser to focus the light into beam | 20:55 |
| genehacker | are they stimulating the muscle control portions of that rat's brain? | 20:56 |
| genehacker | that's all with sound? | 20:58 |
| kanzure | yes they are messing with the motor cortex | 20:58 |
| genehacker | is it invasive? | 20:58 |
| kanzure | well they made some skull windows in a few but yes it's noninvasive | 20:58 |
| genehacker | that's pretty neat | 20:58 |
| kanzure | all of the files are there | 20:58 |
| kanzure | 2mm resolution :) | 20:58 |
| kanzure | the papers are better but here's a relevant patent that is being filed at WIPO: | 20:59 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/ultrasound/patents/Devices%20and%20methods%20for%20modulating%20brain%20activity%20-%20Tyler%20-%202011.pdf | 20:59 |
| genehacker | do they know the mechanism behind ultransonic stimulation? | 21:00 |
| kanzure | cellular membrane deformation | 21:01 |
| kanzure | cavitation microbubbles | 21:01 |
| genehacker | hopefully it doesn't involve cavitation bubbles | 21:01 |
| kanzure | heh | 21:01 |
| kanzure | well why not | 21:01 |
| kanzure | cell membranes get disrupted all the time and close up pretty fast | 21:01 |
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| genehacker | seems like that would be damaging to tissue | 21:03 |
| kanzure | yeah they also used it in some clinical trials to melt brain tumors | 21:03 |
| kanzure | (at higher power) | 21:03 |
| genehacker | from patent "may be used to provide ultrasound to a reward pathway to reinforce behaviors that are beneficial for military/combat/tactical personnel" | 21:06 |
| kanzure | yeah here are my notes on interesting bits from the patent: | 21:07 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/ultrasound/notes.txt | 21:07 |
| genehacker | now that's sounds like that could produce some ethical problems | 21:07 |
| kanzure | it's ok we'll just stimulate the ethical regions of your brain too | 21:08 |
| kanzure | fenn: oh, have you considered that you might have a tumor? | 21:09 |
| genehacker | kanzure didn't you have a paper collection of easy to replicate electronics? | 21:16 |
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| kanzure | probably and i've probably also forgotten it | 21:27 |
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| kanzure | haha diybio scareware | 22:15 |
| kanzure | http://www.esecurityplanet.com/trends/article.php/3936241/The-Nightmare-Future-of-Hacking.htm | 22:15 |
| kanzure | yeah.. because you've got nothing to fear about the 1k biology labs per university | 22:16 |
| kanzure | yawn | 22:16 |
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| fenn | kanzure: yes, and no i won't be your brain-melting guinea pig | 22:31 |
| kanzure | i'm pretty sure your roommates could hook you up with an mri/fmri scan | 22:31 |
| fenn | if so it would have been there for 15 years | 22:32 |
| kanzure | sure | 22:32 |
| kanzure | fenn: how did you decide who to send that email to | 22:45 |
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| fenn | kanzure: not very well | 23:27 |
| fenn | megan was like "hey ben, send me some interesting stuff" | 23:27 |
| fenn | and then i spent an hour on it and figured it should be looked at by more than one person | 23:28 |
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