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| fenn | NIST used RTlinux which was developed by a navy contractor for testing avionics, but was later excessively commercialized to the point of unusability and so now anyone doing anything realtime with linux uses RTAI developed by an italian university | 04:16 |
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| fenn | also it's sort of a misnomer to call it an extension since linux is running as a process in the RT kernel | 04:17 |
| fenn | what is in nanosystems.tar.gzD | 04:41 |
| fenn | oh nm | 04:41 |
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| delinquentme | so im a little pissy... walked into pitts bio lab and the security officer did nothing but derp | 07:12 |
| kanzure | eh | 07:14 |
| delinquentme | so here it goes: how do you find out what works | 07:14 |
| delinquentme | because really i want to burn a hole into that shit | 07:14 |
| delinquentme | blast them for the fact someone marches up to their front door saying " let me help you to innovate" | 07:14 |
| delinquentme | is it like playing shadows of the colossus? | 07:15 |
| delinquentme | you gotta find the nerves | 07:15 |
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| kanzure | delinquentme: did you have a meeting scheduled? | 07:23 |
| delinquentme | nah | 07:26 |
| delinquentme | disruption isnt supposed to follow protocols | 07:26 |
| delinquentme | am i wrong? | 07:26 |
| Utopiah | protocols (and heavy administrative processes) aren't supposed to be broken without resistance | 07:27 |
| kanzure | um.. | 07:28 |
| kanzure | http://www.codeodor.com/index.cfm/2011/8/11/WTFs-by-programming-language-repository-on-github/3395 | 07:30 |
| delinquentme | this is true | 07:32 |
| delinquentme | are there downsides to picking fights through this | 07:33 |
| delinquentme | thats the gut feeling | 07:33 |
| kanzure | um.. schedule a meeting dude | 07:34 |
| delinquentme | another issue: going in there as a business major everyones got this self referential belief that you need to have that paper to make an impact | 07:35 |
| delinquentme | psychology, its a bitch sometimes | 07:36 |
| kanzure | you're doing it wrong | 07:37 |
| delinquentme | i donno man | 07:38 |
| kanzure | you got thrown out by a cop | 07:38 |
| kanzure | i think this is evidence of you doing it wrong | 07:38 |
| delinquentme | ha | 07:38 |
| delinquentme | nah that just means the cop has no idea what "open source robotics are" | 07:38 |
| delinquentme | he just knows to drool on himself and to keep unauthorized people out | 07:38 |
| kanzure | no that doesn't matter at all | 07:38 |
| delinquentme | so playing dumb = easiest way to keep unauths out | 07:39 |
| delinquentme | right? | 07:39 |
| kanzure | no he's supposed to keep you out | 07:39 |
| kanzure | because you didn't schedule a meeting. | 07:39 |
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| delinquentme | so yeah going in and trying to go through cop yeah .. not gonan work | 07:40 |
| delinquentme | but i mean in a larger sense | 07:40 |
| delinquentme | as in just be a pain in the ass so they give me what i want sooner | 07:41 |
| delinquentme | bc they know im gonna be a pain in the ass | 07:41 |
| delinquentme | * thinking out loud* | 07:41 |
| delinquentme | RIGHT?! | 07:44 |
| kanzure | they don't even know you what the fuck are you smoking? | 07:45 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, giving your credentials upfront .. or waiting for them to ask for them ( when sending an email for an appointment )? | 07:46 |
| kanzure | i'll help you draft an email to a professor if you want | 07:46 |
| kanzure | but not right now.. i need to go find some fucking food | 07:46 |
| kanzure | where is this shit | 07:46 |
| delinquentme | Pitt | 07:46 |
| delinquentme | ive also got a degree from this palce | 07:46 |
| kanzure | no way i'm going to pitt just for some food man | 07:46 |
| delinquentme | lolol | 07:47 |
| kanzure | i was thinking down to my kitchen or down the street | 07:47 |
| delinquentme | ok im gonna shoot u this email | 07:47 |
| kanzure | please include food and/or a picture of food | 07:49 |
| * kanzure will brb | 07:49 | |
| delinquentme | http://www.abetterbagofgroceries.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/sloppy-joe-finished.jpg | 07:52 |
| delinquentme | NAWMZ | 07:52 |
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| kanzure | open source hardware logo http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3548427/oshw-logo_REVIS.svg | 08:55 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure, dat sloppy joe! | 09:14 |
| delinquentme | derish | 09:14 |
| dbolser | any smart people want to get sequenced? https://www.cog-genomics.org/ | 09:33 |
| dbolser | hi kanzure, sorry about the other day | 09:33 |
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| dbolser | anything important? | 09:34 |
| delinquentme | http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2898790 | 09:54 |
| delinquentme | dbolser, are you working with BGI? | 09:55 |
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| Tyrant | delinquentme, what makes you think you know what they should be doing better than you? | 10:18 |
| Tyrant | *better than them | 10:19 |
| delinquentme | ha! | 10:19 |
| delinquentme | yessss | 10:19 |
| delinquentme | i was about to jump on that email and be like 'YES YES YES' | 10:19 |
| delinquentme | thats the kinda feedback im after | 10:19 |
| delinquentme | bc i dont! | 10:19 |
| delinquentme | like this is a guess, and with my limited bio knowledge that the best ive come up with sofar | 10:19 |
| Tyrant | cheaper and simpler is good, over specialized is not | 10:19 |
| Tyrant | the interface for automation is quite a bit harder than you think | 10:20 |
| Tyrant | web browser based or not | 10:20 |
| delinquentme | Tyrant, well thats MY problem to handle :D | 10:21 |
| delinquentme | scientists arent interaction designers | 10:21 |
| delinquentme | which puts me in a perfect place .. learning this stuff to think | 10:21 |
| Tyrant | You are not a scientist | 10:21 |
| delinquentme | * HEY these two form a logical group* | 10:21 |
| Tyrant | The only use for the LH you thought of was mini prep? | 10:22 |
| delinquentme | correct | 10:22 |
| delinquentme | so then the question is | 10:22 |
| delinquentme | what to automate | 10:22 |
| Tyrant | you need to go talk to scientists and lab techs who use this | 10:22 |
| Tyrant | EVERYTHING! | 10:22 |
| delinquentme | well duh | 10:22 |
| delinquentme | lol | 10:22 |
| Tyrant | the liquid handler can do almost everything you need to in a lab | 10:22 |
| delinquentme | but i mean i can see automation of minipreps taking like 2 months | 10:22 |
| Tyrant | as long as it is extendable enough | 10:22 |
| delinquentme | see my thing is | 10:23 |
| delinquentme | i dont want a big project | 10:23 |
| delinquentme | i want small incremental ones | 10:23 |
| delinquentme | you know paul grahams idea of incremental quick revisions | 10:23 |
| Tyrant | they dont work in hardware | 10:23 |
| delinquentme | false | 10:23 |
| delinquentme | but thats not a constructive discussion | 10:23 |
| delinquentme | what is! | 10:24 |
| delinquentme | is what to automate | 10:24 |
| Tyrant | You need two things: to develop and deploy | 10:24 |
| delinquentme | that could be done quickly and that is useful | 10:24 |
| Tyrant | both are insanely expensive when compared to software | 10:24 |
| delinquentme | yes yes insanely expensive compared to something that free | 10:24 |
| Tyrant | and if you deploy a piece of shit hardware then your done for | 10:24 |
| Tyrant | *you're | 10:24 |
| delinquentme | umm you know about 3d printing | 10:24 |
| delinquentme | you say heres the file | 10:24 |
| delinquentme | replace these | 10:24 |
| delinquentme | if the machine is simple enough .. even a lab tech could do this | 10:24 |
| delinquentme | which is why im not looking at HPLC for my first project .. ill leave that up to the studied individuals =] | 10:25 |
| Tyrant | so you're saying your instrument is out of plastic | 10:25 |
| Tyrant | completely out of plastic | 10:25 |
| delinquentme | oh completely | 10:25 |
| Tyrant | uhhh ok | 10:25 |
| delinquentme | aside from screws that you can buy @ mcmaster | 10:25 |
| delinquentme | its mcmaster carr hardware and plastic | 10:25 |
| delinquentme | pipettes from ebay .. and arduino MCs | 10:26 |
| delinquentme | thats about it | 10:26 |
| Tyrant | have you stress tested the machine? | 10:26 |
| delinquentme | this is taking hardware | 10:26 |
| delinquentme | and applying software revision concepts to it | 10:26 |
| delinquentme | no .. which is a good question | 10:26 |
| delinquentme | i havnt | 10:26 |
| delinquentme | however | 10:26 |
| Tyrant | well you cant deploy it | 10:26 |
| delinquentme | metal parts can be 3d printed | 10:26 |
| delinquentme | but like i said in the email | 10:27 |
| Tyrant | have you gotten estimates for laser sintering? XP | 10:27 |
| delinquentme | *COMPLEXITY* is the wrong answer here | 10:27 |
| delinquentme | complexity is EASY | 10:27 |
| delinquentme | there are a multitude of processes | 10:27 |
| delinquentme | all of which are automated =] | 10:27 |
| Tyrant | yes but there is also a big difference between simplification and over specialization | 10:28 |
| delinquentme | and such will become more and more of a commodity priced item | 10:28 |
| delinquentme | true | 10:28 |
| delinquentme | which is why i was worried about the minipre | 10:28 |
| Tyrant | if your machine is only capable of handling 96 well plates and cant even work with a pcr machine then you've over simplified | 10:28 |
| Tyrant | thats why mine is so "complex" | 10:28 |
| delinquentme | miniprep ... like people use different protocols and what if my machine wouldnt support a particular protocol | 10:28 |
| delinquentme | whaaaaaaat | 10:29 |
| delinquentme | stop | 10:29 |
| delinquentme | false | 10:29 |
| delinquentme | i've seen 96 well pcr machines | 10:29 |
| delinquentme | they use specialized plates | 10:29 |
| delinquentme | 96 well .. standard dimensions | 10:29 |
| Tyrant | ok what if the lab using your equipment doesnt have one of those? | 10:29 |
| delinquentme | open PRC dude :D | 10:29 |
| delinquentme | but again were moving away from what im after | 10:30 |
| Tyrant | what if they want to fill up a desktop centrifuge with the liquid handler? | 10:30 |
| Tyrant | no you dont understand a fundamental fact of what you're trying to do: It's not about what you want or can do, it's about what labs NEED | 10:30 |
| delinquentme | agreed. | 10:30 |
| delinquentme | what im saying | 10:30 |
| delinquentme | as you've mirrored | 10:30 |
| delinquentme | is that ALL of this needs automated | 10:31 |
| delinquentme | but where do we start | 10:31 |
| delinquentme | all of this shit needs to lego together | 10:31 |
| Tyrant | you start with a cheap enough instrument that can do pretty much anything with any extension | 10:31 |
| delinquentme | but the quicker we can get to a product that is cheap, innovative and usable ... the quicker the entire process will happen | 10:31 |
| delinquentme | so yeah the liquid handler sounds like a good idea | 10:31 |
| delinquentme | umm should we start sharing sketches? | 10:32 |
| Tyrant | as for the software, you have a "turing complete" equivalent of move the head, move each pipette tip in height, and move the pump (pick up or dispense liquid) | 10:32 |
| Tyrant | you can if you want, i have little recorded | 10:33 |
| Tyrant | people have done DIY CNCs many many times, im just catching up right now and making my own | 10:33 |
| Tyrant | I've got the motor-driver pretty much worked out and so I'm building the structure and position feedback | 10:33 |
| * delinquentme sketching | 10:35 | |
| delinquentme | kk ill upload a sketch in a sec | 10:36 |
| delinquentme | oh yeah ##diycnc .. im a mod in that channel .. the kids are hella nice | 10:37 |
| Tyrant | did not know that existed | 10:37 |
| delinquentme | yeap | 10:38 |
| kanzure | there's also #cam #emc #reprap | 10:38 |
| delinquentme | actually #diycnc | 10:38 |
| delinquentme | so digs | 10:38 |
| delinquentme | http://imgur.com/2Dpaq | 10:38 |
| delinquentme | this is my non-scientist concept | 10:38 |
| delinquentme | looking at the problem from the perspective of a central lab.. with numerous researchers working on concurrent projects | 10:39 |
| delinquentme | systems to jump between conveyor belts, .. then from machine to machine .. and a staging area for those plates or whatever .. waiting on a machine | 10:39 |
| Tyrant | well now for my sketch: http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~chefvb/images/wp207ane.jpg | 10:40 |
| Tyrant | that quad-z is 30k and thats my target | 10:40 |
| delinquentme | so what it is.. is 2 fold | 10:40 |
| delinquentme | 1) you've got the thiel street cred | 10:40 |
| delinquentme | so im definitely interested in your takes on this | 10:41 |
| kanzure | hahahah | 10:41 |
| kanzure | that's hilarious | 10:41 |
| kanzure | but please continue | 10:41 |
| delinquentme | 2) I want to see the iteration | 10:41 |
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| delinquentme | perhaps i just dont know about the LH | 10:41 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, y funny | 10:41 |
| Tyrant | delinquentme, I don't understand why you are obsessed with a single axis | 10:42 |
| kanzure | street cred doesn't roll like that around here | 10:42 |
| delinquentme | Tyrant, im obsessed with speed and simplicity | 10:42 |
| delinquentme | speed of iteration | 10:42 |
| delinquentme | grand dreams = awesome, motiving .. fuck eyah | 10:43 |
| delinquentme | but the sooner ass hits pavement | 10:43 |
| delinquentme | the more noise youll make in the community | 10:43 |
| delinquentme | and the faster youll get $$$ to make bigger rockets | 10:43 |
| Tyrant | that depends on which community you're looking at | 10:43 |
| Tyrant | if your look at diybio... sure | 10:43 |
| delinquentme | like yes if the machine is a POS | 10:43 |
| delinquentme | but no if you've got a solid piece of machinery | 10:43 |
| Tyrant | if you want to actually take this to labs and stuff like that? your first iteration matters so much more than the latter ones | 10:43 |
| delinquentme | its absolutely true | 10:43 |
| delinquentme | sorry man | 10:44 |
| delinquentme | yes | 10:44 |
| delinquentme | well | 10:44 |
| delinquentme | hmm as i said .. if the machine doesnt work as intended | 10:44 |
| delinquentme | its a fail | 10:44 |
| delinquentme | you're absolutely right | 10:44 |
| delinquentme | quick deploy + high quality = the answer | 10:44 |
| Tyrant | no its not. if it doesnt work as intended you keep working on it but it must work as inteded adn serve the needs of the user when you launch | 10:44 |
| Tyrant | again depends on what your deployment is | 10:45 |
| delinquentme | and to assume that everything is a long dev cycle is so outdated | 10:45 |
| Tyrant | do you know why everything has a long dev cycle? | 10:45 |
| kanzure | Tyrant: mostly because of bullshit | 10:45 |
| delinquentme | testing | 10:45 |
| delinquentme | but the thing is it doesnt need to be that way | 10:45 |
| kanzure | no lots of testing can be automated | 10:45 |
| delinquentme | what im saying is were talking emergent shit here | 10:45 |
| delinquentme | its NOT innovative | 10:45 |
| delinquentme | if were holding ourselves to old standards | 10:46 |
| delinquentme | fuck how its done | 10:46 |
| delinquentme | we're smarter | 10:46 |
| delinquentme | we're faster | 10:46 |
| delinquentme | lets figure it the fuck out on our own | 10:46 |
| Tyrant | ah so you're not going to hold yourself to the standard of "make sure this piece of hardware works for a while" ? | 10:46 |
| delinquentme | you KNOW tecan cant keep up a dev cycle like we can | 10:46 |
| Tyrant | lolyesitcan | 10:46 |
| delinquentme | no waaaay | 10:47 |
| Tyrant | and when it starts losing money it will | 10:47 |
| delinquentme | startup that shitman | 10:47 |
| delinquentme | ask kanz | 10:47 |
| delinquentme | hardware is going the way of software | 10:47 |
| delinquentme | we can make this shit like its fucking tinkertoys for 3rd world countries | 10:47 |
| Tyrant | lol | 10:47 |
| delinquentme | tinkertoys which can incubate and automate | 10:47 |
| Tyrant | you need to go work on some hardware that will be deployed to the real world | 10:48 |
| delinquentme | true! | 10:48 |
| Tyrant | cold hard reality will hit you in the face very hard | 10:48 |
| delinquentme | but im asking | 10:48 |
| delinquentme | whats the "cold hard fact" thats stopping quick deploy cycles | 10:48 |
| Tyrant | testing. testing. testing. | 10:48 |
| delinquentme | you've this far mentioned that you want it to work for a while | 10:48 |
| Tyrant | everything must work, it must work for a while, and it must work perfectly | 10:48 |
| delinquentme | how did testing on the VW beetle work | 10:48 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: the other thing that is stopping it is a lack of money for parts and dev costs | 10:48 |
| delinquentme | and so perfect | 10:49 |
| Tyrant | every single part was stres tested along and during systems integration | 10:49 |
| delinquentme | make shit cheap enough for DIY bio | 10:49 |
| delinquentme | let them field test the shit | 10:49 |
| delinquentme | well test it ourselves | 10:49 |
| Tyrant | but you'll make no money to keep developing | 10:49 |
| delinquentme | and if we've got enterprising labs theyll do the same | 10:49 |
| kanzure | Tyrant: so? | 10:49 |
| delinquentme | tell me it wont happen and i will laugh at you | 10:49 |
| delinquentme | so Tyrant i guess what im after | 10:50 |
| delinquentme | is tell me what is stupid simple which can be automated | 10:50 |
| delinquentme | and let me help on the side with your big toy | 10:50 |
| delinquentme | and ill work on small ones | 10:50 |
| Tyrant | What you're after is a fairy tale of being able to build an entire piece of hardware and deploy it in an unreasonable amount of time | 10:50 |
| delinquentme | like i didnt mean to get drawn in but <3 the discussion but thats what im after .. im a lost boy | 10:50 |
| delinquentme | ummm | 10:51 |
| kanzure | Tyrant: to be fair, you don't know what you're talking about | 10:51 |
| delinquentme | for it to be "unreasonable" i would have had to give a timeframe | 10:51 |
| kanzure | Tyrant: i mean it's been almost a year now of no hardware from you | 10:51 |
| delinquentme | which i didnt. | 10:51 |
| delinquentme | thus... | 10:51 |
| delinquentme | does it not seem that you're just fixated on the long dev sched | 10:51 |
| delinquentme | instead of just saying | 10:51 |
| delinquentme | "lets see what we can crap out in a week" | 10:51 |
| delinquentme | bc i think we'd all be more interested in that | 10:51 |
| delinquentme | granted im one to talk .. 3 months of dev on my LH | 10:52 |
| kanzure | so what's the conversation? | 10:52 |
| Tyrant | delinquentme: look at cellphones and cars: extremely competitive industry where short dev cycles would give companies a large advantage but they're still very long | 10:52 |
| Tyrant | delinquentme: no i'm fixated on the long commercial dev schedule | 10:52 |
| delinquentme | Tyrant so yes i think... | 10:52 |
| delinquentme | we just need to figure out what dev times were looking at | 10:52 |
| Tyrant | i want to get my entire thing done over the next month or two, but i know that realistically getting it to market will take 6 to 12 | 10:52 |
| delinquentme | and as kanzure what are we talking about here | 10:52 |
| Tyrant | kanzure: what hardware have you done? | 10:52 |
| delinquentme | stop. | 10:53 |
| delinquentme | what CAN | 10:53 |
| delinquentme | we do | 10:53 |
| delinquentme | i was learning electronics and working a job lol fuck that shit | 10:53 |
| delinquentme | i know it can be done quicker | 10:53 |
| kanzure | Tyrant: last thing i remember working on is some microfluidics stuff | 10:53 |
| delinquentme | and now i've got you kids as cohorts .. and thats fucking awesome | 10:53 |
| Tyrant | kanzure: where is it? | 10:54 |
| kanzure | Tyrant: sitting in a junkbin somewhere in austin | 10:54 |
| delinquentme | Tyrant, kanzure how is this productive | 10:54 |
| delinquentme | quick dick measuring | 10:54 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: i still don't know what the conversation is | 10:54 |
| delinquentme | agreed. | 10:54 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: i don't want to measure your dick | 10:54 |
| delinquentme | so Tyrant id love to get your 2cents on what i can do with my machine | 10:54 |
| delinquentme | lulz | 10:54 |
| kanzure | this doesn't really make sense to me so i'm going back to my javascriptz | 10:54 |
| delinquentme | the not-so-quantified self? | 10:55 |
| kanzure | what? | 10:55 |
| delinquentme | its cool we can drawn the line there :P | 10:55 |
| Tyrant | kanzure: so... nothing? | 10:55 |
| delinquentme | Tyrant, | 10:55 |
| delinquentme | liiisten man | 10:55 |
| kanzure | Tyrant: i don't think you read what i wrote | 10:55 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, and i both know you're doing good stuff | 10:55 |
| delinquentme | im after advice | 10:55 |
| delinquentme | were working on 2 different machines now | 10:55 |
| delinquentme | yours is absolutely more complex | 10:55 |
| Tyrant | delinquentme: add a second axis, spread the conveyor out and add the second axis to the gantry holding the pipettes | 10:55 |
| delinquentme | by a measure | 10:55 |
| delinquentme | so naturally it would take longer | 10:56 |
| Tyrant | also kanzure, you haven't known me for a year | 10:56 |
| delinquentme | Tyrant, how about an automated pipette? | 10:56 |
| kanzure | Tyrant: i met you 2010-10-27.. so that's true i guess | 10:56 |
| delinquentme | thats kind of how i talk about it | 10:56 |
| Tyrant | i entered this channel in january, didnt start anything till early june | 10:56 |
| delinquentme | lol | 10:56 |
| Tyrant | you met me at humanity plus | 10:56 |
| delinquentme | male egos | 10:56 |
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| delinquentme | fuck | 10:56 |
| delinquentme | really? | 10:57 |
| Tyrant | what do you mean automated pipette? | 10:57 |
| delinquentme | i've referred to it as a | 10:57 |
| delinquentme | "glorified pipette" | 10:57 |
| Tyrant | you mean one that automatically lowers and pulls/dispenses liquid? | 10:57 |
| delinquentme | no that would be .... aspersion | 10:57 |
| delinquentme | noo eff whatever the term | 10:57 |
| delinquentme | this is only liquid dispensing | 10:58 |
| delinquentme | and when automated pipettes cost 400 for a 8 row | 10:58 |
| delinquentme | mine runs 12 | 10:58 |
| delinquentme | and i know i could get the cost to 400 | 10:58 |
| Tyrant | what is an automated pipette lol | 10:58 |
| delinquentme | hah | 10:58 |
| delinquentme | i mean like | 10:58 |
| delinquentme | 8 channel | 10:58 |
| delinquentme | http://www.amazon.com/Scilogex-71311212-MicroPette-Autoclavable-8-Channel/dp/B004J4W7I6 | 10:58 |
| delinquentme | right ? so pipette | 10:58 |
| Tyrant | well if you want to do ONLY 96 wells you can use that | 10:59 |
| delinquentme | mine needs to be scaled down .. but if i added a cue to it .. so that you could press a button ..and just have liquid dispensed to a cue of like 50 plates .. would that be beneficial? | 10:59 |
| Tyrant | this is how Tecans do it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EchSv6O0unk&feature=related | 10:59 |
| Tyrant | anyway I have to go. I should have been at a meeting already | 10:59 |
| delinquentme | lol ok | 11:00 |
| Tyrant | I'll be back later tonight or tomorrow. talk to you then | 11:00 |
| delinquentme | but think about the 50 cue for me | 11:00 |
| delinquentme | yeah | 11:00 |
| delinquentme | toodles!! | 11:00 |
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| kanzure | lol overnighting unlocked iphones with my app to gatorade execs | 11:13 |
| dbolser | delinquentme: no, I had an opportunity to work there, but wasn't too sure about relocating | 11:15 |
| kanzure | what is wrong with you | 11:16 |
| kanzure | geeze | 11:16 |
| kanzure | it is your mission to personally expand the jong bhak empire to beijing! | 11:17 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, come again?! | 11:20 |
| delinquentme | dbolser, you know they've got BGI americas | 11:20 |
| delinquentme | i have to say i love seeing cultural evolution | 11:20 |
| delinquentme | right on their website it says "were out to alleviate human suffering" | 11:21 |
| delinquentme | this is the same culture which used to support the " life = suffering " motif | 11:21 |
| delinquentme | awesome | 11:21 |
| dbolser | delinquentme: they need BGI myhouse ;_) | 11:26 |
| dbolser | I'm in UK | 11:26 |
| delinquentme | ohhh shit!@ | 11:28 |
| delinquentme | im jelly | 11:28 |
| delinquentme | or do they call it jam over there :P | 11:28 |
| delinquentme | GOD IM HAVING AN AMAZING DAY | 11:28 |
| delinquentme | thanks to you guys <3 | 11:28 |
| delinquentme | clams are as happy as me right now. | 11:42 |
| delinquentme | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-18/marijuana-dna-sequenced-by-startup.html | 11:46 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: jong was one of dbolser's advisors | 11:47 |
| delinquentme | jong? not listed: http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/04/24/high-quality-dna.print.html | 11:55 |
| delinquentme | who is he? | 11:55 |
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| kanzure | i meant jong bhak | 12:01 |
| kanzure | http://jongbhak.com/index.php/Main_Page | 12:01 |
| kanzure | he's the former director of the korean bioinformatics center (KOBIC) i think | 12:02 |
| delinquentme | ohh fuck yes | 12:03 |
| delinquentme | oh and i shot an email to a guy Rae referred me to who might be working on clevage of ... glucosepane .. dude by the name of bains | 12:05 |
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| delinquentme | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACo-JxAi_38&NR=1 | 12:14 |
| delinquentme | robots | 12:14 |
| delinquentme | they're awesome | 12:14 |
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| kanzure | hrm http://www.icarusinterstellar.org/index.php | 14:23 |
| kanzure | "Project Icarus is a volunteer theoretical engineering study to design an interstellar spacecraft" | 14:23 |
| kanzure | ooh overpopulated advisory board http://www.icarusinterstellar.org/team_members.php | 14:25 |
| archels | kanzure: I like their self-deprecation. (I can't think of another reason to call a spacefaring project Icarus) | 14:27 |
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| kanzure | honk honk | 16:59 |
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| delinquentme | so Tyrant another idea i had was say we make update to a machine right? some gear goes shit .. they can print out a cheap plastic one untill we replace it with a metal one | 17:23 |
| delinquentme | again under the presumption that these machines are slacky and not designed about precision | 17:24 |
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| kanzure | binary parser in javascript | 18:10 |
| kanzure | http://blog.vjeux.com/2011/javascript/binaryparser-unleash-javascript-power.html | 18:10 |
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| uniqanomaly | this is just wrong | 18:17 |
| kanzure | uniqanomaly: ? | 18:34 |
| uniqanomaly | binary stuff in js | 18:36 |
| uniqanomaly | it's wrong :P | 18:36 |
| kanzure | :) | 18:36 |
| kanzure | there was also that pdf viewer in js | 18:36 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/andreasgal/pdf.js/ | 18:36 |
| kanzure | demo: http://andreasgal.github.com/pdf.js/web/viewer.html#1 | 18:37 |
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| delinquentme_ | uniqanomaly, lol i've used binary packing in rails :D | 19:00 |
| delinquentme_ | totally ghetto.. but at the same time rails>> hardware is awesome | 19:00 |
| delinquentme_ | kanzure, good tutorials for solid works? | 19:00 |
| delinquentme_ | about to install it on windoez ;/ | 19:00 |
| kanzure | youtube | 19:02 |
| kanzure | has many good tutorials. | 19:02 |
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| Tyrant | delinquentme_, solidworks has great help files and tutorials | 21:34 |
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| QuantumG | I can't even get my copy of solidworks to start anymore | 21:39 |
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| masked | soup | 21:54 |
| kanzure | what kind of soup | 22:08 |
| Tyrant | delicious soup | 22:14 |
| masked | yes like cake | 22:15 |
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