2011-09-07.log

--- Log opened Wed Sep 07 00:00:59 2011
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Lucas_Good morning08:23
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kanzureaww crap10:47
dbolserThe heritability of general cognitive ability increases linearly from childhood to young adulthood.10:51
dbolserhttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1948804610:51
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Lucas_oh man I am screwed11:03
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splicer"as children grow up, they increasingly select, modify and even create their own experiences in part based on their genetic propensities."11:34
splicerrefreshing to see someone say that ones genes guide ones actions.11:35
splicerI think it's taboo... the blank slate theory is more politically correct.11:36
kanzureoctopus diybio workshop http://octopus.eventbrite.com/11:37
kanzure*octopus dissection11:38
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kanzure"When asked how many children are ideal, the average answer from women in Austria is 1.6. In the UK it’s 2.4. Women in Uganda answer 5.3, and the tireless women of Niger think 9.1 children are ideal – statistically speaking. That explains their world’s highest 7.1 births per woman."11:57
uniqanomalywho the fuck wrote that11:58
kanzurehitting a little close to home... http://media2.kxan.com//PDF/ListDestroyedStructures.pdf12:00
kanzurewhat does 9.1 mean? that 10% answered 10? or that 5% answered 20?12:02
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eudoxiaHuh. Nanorex updated its site13:05
eudoxiaI thought they'd ran out of money?13:05
kanzurehow is it updated?13:06
eudoxiaThey changed the skin13:06
eudoxiai guess that's something13:06
kanzureyou mean nanoengieer-1.com?13:06
eudoxiayes13:06
kanzurelooks the same to me O_o13:06
eudoxiawait no13:06
kanzure*nanoengineer-1.com13:06
eudoxiahttp://nanoengineer-1.com/dev1/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=113:06
kanzureoh /dev113:07
kanzureactually this was an old site too13:07
eudoxiaoh well13:07
kanzuremark sims is still alive though, yes13:07
eudoxiaHave they been doing anything after nanorex ran out of money?13:09
kanzurenanorex was funded by mark.. mark wrote some code but there were also 6-10 others13:09
kanzurethey have other jobs now iirc13:09
kanzuresome of them are on the nanoengineer-dev mailing list though13:10
kanzurehttp://groups.google.com/group/nanoengineer-dev13:10
eudoxiaThe one that "makes glaciers look like the Flash"?13:11
* kanzure nods13:11
kanzureit's partly my fault.. i should write more nanoengineer code13:11
dbolsersplicer: the gene-ie is out of the bottle since 200713:12
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splicerdbolser: or 1859 maybe? ;)... just hasn't caught on.13:44
Steel_what's drexler been doing since 07?13:50
Steel_or 0913:50
Steel_whatever13:50
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delinquentmeseriously there is no reason i cant put pipette tips within other pipette tips... if they're all sterile there is no reason that would contaminate it13:59
kanzurehave you tried it?14:26
kanzureSteel_: writing papers14:26
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delinquentmekanzure:  nope14:37
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Tyrantdelinquentme, the amount of force you'd use to mount the disposable tip onto the pipettor would also make the tips stick together15:18
Tyrantso you'd push the top into the rest and they'd aaall stickl15:18
delinquentmeTyrant: storage is different from fitting the tip15:19
Tyrantthe inner surface of the tips are high friction for the purpose of easily mounting them and will stick to the outside surface of other tips15:19
delinquentmethats a separate mechanism15:19
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delinquentmei think i can overcome that15:19
delinquentmei think the primary concern is sterility15:20
TyrantIf you're storing them differently than using them then you're adding unnecessary complexity15:20
delinquentmewhich im prettyyy sure will be maintained15:20
delinquentmeTyrant: disagree15:20
Tyrantyou either force the user to some how handle them, ro add a completely extraneous robotic arm to separate them15:20
delinquentmecompare picking a single tip from a case versus the repetative motion of just one from the end of a stack15:21
Tyrantyou pick up a tip by pushing the pipettor tip into the disposable tip15:21
delinquentmeTyrant: yes as in placement on a case of tips15:21
Tyrantby pushing you create more surface contact, more friction15:21
delinquentmeyou're talking through that grid15:21
delinquentmewalking*15:22
Tyrantand any force locking the tip onto the pipettor wil also lock the tips in the stack15:22
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delinquentmethis doesnt answer the question im asking15:24
Tyrant I can't answer the sterility question without knowing how you plan to pack them15:24
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JayDuggerGood evening, everyone.16:48
ybitfml16:52
ybitmoin JayDugger16:52
ybitadíos amigos16:52
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kanzurewow what a dick answer http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2011/09/microchip-responds.html16:57
JayDuggerDid you get any sleep?16:58
kanzuredunno, i hope so17:00
JayDuggerZeo and FitBit have low prices on eBay.17:00
JayDuggerI hope your sleep soon returns to normal.17:01
kanzureayah is providing $2k scholarships for open source hardware17:07
kanzurerequires a youtube video (yawn)17:08
kanzurenot even gsoc asks for a video.. yeesh17:08
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