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| CryptoQuick | oh yeah, kanzure | 00:04 |
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| CryptoQuick | I've been meaning to talk to you | 00:04 |
| CryptoQuick | sorry, I was distracted before because I was inspired to fix that issue with App Engine | 00:04 |
| CryptoQuick | anyway | 00:05 |
| CryptoQuick | I'm trying to cobble together something with PythonOCC, so that perhaps the user can send some commands to the server and it'll generate the mesh for them. | 00:06 |
| CryptoQuick | it's kinda a pain, though | 00:06 |
| CryptoQuick | I wish there was something tidier, a tinycad. a lolcad, if you will. | 00:06 |
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| kanzure | 'tinycad' was taken :x | 00:12 |
| CryptoQuick | ;D | 00:12 |
| CryptoQuick | I saw that survey you did. good names, they were. | 00:12 |
| QuantumG | what's the status of that anyway? I'm sick of openscad | 00:22 |
| CryptoQuick | yeah, there's definitely a need for this. kanz, do it! :) | 00:22 |
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| kanzure | CryptoQuick: i'm trying to get back on a normal sleep schedule | 00:54 |
| kanzure | normal sleep doesn't seem conducive to doing lots of work o_o | 00:54 |
| CryptoQuick | :) | 00:54 |
| phryk | kanzure: What kind of sleep schedule would be? | 00:55 |
| kanzure | 4 hours sleep 30 hours work | 00:57 |
| CryptoQuick | silly kanz, there aren't 34 hours in a day | 00:58 |
| CryptoQuick | at least, not an Earth day | 00:58 |
| kanzure | true.. i have been skipping days up until a few days ago (got some sleep drugs to try to reset myself) | 00:58 |
| CryptoQuick | last time I took sleep drugs I needed to stay up longer to get some work done and wound up hallucinating | 00:59 |
| CryptoQuick | I think I did it wrong | 00:59 |
| kanzure | nah just cycle back around and double up | 00:59 |
| CryptoQuick | aha | 00:59 |
| CryptoQuick | I just crashed eventually after staring forever into a glowing white wall | 01:00 |
| CryptoQuick | came back the next morning, find out I was just staring at my text editor | 01:01 |
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| kanzure | gpgpu tutorials http://www.moderngpu.com/ | 08:19 |
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| ybit | hi people | 09:46 |
| kanzure | hello person | 09:49 |
| kanzure | this looked ok until i read #3 http://zerostate.net/ | 09:52 |
| kanzure | oh and #4 makes me think this is just david pearce | 09:52 |
| kanzure | bleh | 09:52 |
| kanzure | i wonder why physorg is listed there | 09:53 |
| kanzure | mac is at it again.. http://futurelabcamp.com/boston | 09:58 |
| kanzure | http://futurelabcamp.com/2011/announcing-flc2_5 | 09:59 |
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| eudoxia | 'zero state' sounds like 'solid state' | 11:01 |
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| delinquentme | anyone in here think they coud get a hold of 1 rack of 96 pipette tips? | 15:53 |
| delinquentme | beauutifulll http://www.sybbure.org/images/matloff_10_1.jpg | 16:08 |
| CryptoQuick | that is pretty sweet | 16:08 |
| CryptoQuick | what's it do? | 16:09 |
| delinquentme | its microfluidics | 16:35 |
| delinquentme | the "lab on a chip" | 16:35 |
| kanzure | back | 16:35 |
| CryptoQuick | delinquentme: well, duh | 16:36 |
| CryptoQuick | I mean, what was it made for | 16:36 |
| delinquentme | oh haha | 16:37 |
| delinquentme | no idea | 16:37 |
| delinquentme | kanzure: knows | 16:37 |
| delinquentme | :P | 16:37 |
| delinquentme | kanzure: find someone who will give me a 96 rack of pipette tips :D | 16:37 |
| kanzure | how about you buy some | 16:39 |
| delinquentme | bc they're sold in sets of 10 | 16:43 |
| kanzure | if you have the money maybe you could convince some people from the diybio list to buy the other 9 | 16:46 |
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| delinquentme | not bad kanzure | 17:08 |
| kanzure | did you go through with the tecan stunt? | 17:08 |
| delinquentme | kanzure: im warming up | 17:13 |
| delinquentme | got a girl @ hamilton roboics i need to call back | 17:13 |
| delinquentme | as well as emailing more Pitt professors | 17:13 |
| delinquentme | im settling into the idea that they're not going to realize what this is worth till it hits them in the face | 17:14 |
| delinquentme | ( no surprise there ) | 17:14 |
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| kanzure | hi klafka1 | 17:25 |
| klafka1 | sup | 17:26 |
| kanzure | huh somehow http://forum.quantifiedself.com/ has ended up with 200 users | 17:42 |
| kanzure | man, getting users used to be much easier | 17:42 |
| kanzure | i used to run forums that had 10k+ members but now it seems the interwebs are upside down | 17:43 |
| klafka1 | haha | 17:46 |
| klafka1 | people want to like pages | 17:47 |
| klafka1 | not join forums | 17:47 |
| eudoxia | that's rather sad | 17:49 |
| kanzure | i'm not really into forums, myself | 17:57 |
| kanzure | does anyone have a copy of the old mediawiki running on biocurious.org? someone seems to have deleted it | 18:10 |
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| kanzure | HA HA HA | 18:25 |
| kanzure | Done writing meetlog.out.yaml | 18:25 |
| kanzure | real 21m47.680s | 18:25 |
| kanzure | user 21m43.905s | 18:25 |
| kanzure | sys 0m0.924s | 18:25 |
| kanzure | huh yaml.CLoader takes an extra 16sec (now up to 20sec) to load meetlog.out.yaml | 18:28 |
| kanzure | In [54]: len(find_tag("javascript", all_people=all_people)) | 18:47 |
| kanzure | Out[54]: 80 | 18:47 |
| kanzure | huh well that's weird.. only talked with 80 people about js | 18:48 |
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| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/meetlog/tag_champions.txt | 19:18 |
| kanzure | hrmm | 19:18 |
| kanzure | some tag clouds: | 19:18 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/meetlog/people/ | 19:19 |
| kanzure | something's.. wrong. does this look like a giant sausagefest to anyone else too? | 19:20 |
| delinquentme | females done change the world | 19:24 |
| delinquentme | ( statistically speaking ) | 19:24 |
| delinquentme | they seek to come to terms with it | 19:24 |
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| CryptoQuick | I'm all about dat js | 22:21 |
| kanzure | well *that* was an adventure | 22:24 |
| CryptoQuick | wat | 22:24 |
| kanzure | pushed my car to the shop | 22:24 |
| kanzure | battery died | 22:24 |
| CryptoQuick | lawl | 22:24 |
| kanzure | ANYWAY back to hacking | 22:24 |
| CryptoQuick | I was thinking I'd use commandline openscad to turn simple cad specs into stl. then, I'd pipe that into meshlab, to make obj. then, I'll pipe -that- output into the SceneJS format converter, taking obj into json-formatted OpenGL. sound like a plan, kanzure ? | 22:27 |
| kanzure | that sounds awful | 22:27 |
| kanzure | how about no | 22:27 |
| CryptoQuick | ;D | 22:27 |
| kanzure | you should just render triangles in webgl | 22:27 |
| CryptoQuick | well, I was hoping lolcad might turn into something that might do something like that-- at least, until the last step. | 22:28 |
| CryptoQuick | further, doing it clientside, like from pyjs. | 22:28 |
| kanzure | no.. | 22:31 |
| kanzure | blrgh | 22:31 |
| CryptoQuick | wat | 22:31 |
| kanzure | if you are going to use openscad you get stl output | 22:31 |
| kanzure | so take your stl and draw your darn vertices | 22:31 |
| kanzure | view-source:http://alteredqualia.com/three/examples/obj/skull/craneo.js | 22:31 |
| kanzure | blah | 22:31 |
| kanzure | http://alteredqualia.com/three/examples/obj/skull/craneo.js | 22:31 |
| kanzure | (fuck you, chrome) | 22:32 |
| CryptoQuick | aha | 22:32 |
| CryptoQuick | that's for three.js? | 22:32 |
| kanzure | http://alteredqualia.com/three/examples/webgl_skull.html | 22:32 |
| kanzure | well, yes, but drawing vertices is a pretty fundamnetal thing in gl-land | 22:32 |
| CryptoQuick | quite | 22:33 |
| kanzure | fundamental | 22:33 |
| CryptoQuick | so, kanz, do you think you could develop a Py->JS CAD kernel? | 22:35 |
| kanzure | yeah absolutely | 22:36 |
| kanzure | it's just taking a lot of time | 22:36 |
| kanzure | but if you're just interested in stl, why not stick with openscad or blender? | 22:36 |
| CryptoQuick | well, I'm not super interested in it | 22:37 |
| CryptoQuick | and I need it to run on the client, eventually | 22:37 |
| CryptoQuick | I'm only doing this to jumpstart my development | 22:37 |
| kanzure | hmm did you try to compile esolid | 22:39 |
| CryptoQuick | nah, but I did look at it a little. it's daunting. what do you think I should do with it? | 22:40 |
| kanzure | try to compile it | 22:42 |
| kanzure | then you will tell me the errors that you get so that you will have incentive to bug me to make the patches | 22:42 |
| CryptoQuick | but is esolid going to do what I'm looking for? | 22:42 |
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| CryptoQuick | or is my time better spent perhaps porting some of the OpenSCAD code over, perhaps? | 22:43 |
| kanzure | openscad is just going to generate stl (triangles) | 22:44 |
| kanzure | if you want to render shit, getting triangles as soon as possible is what you want | 22:44 |
| kanzure | if you want to print out models from openscad, that's possible | 22:44 |
| kanzure | but they aren't really editable after you make them, and they aren't really portable to other CAD tools | 22:45 |
| CryptoQuick | I'm just looking to render. I need to create a .scad or similar file, then generate geometry from that. | 22:45 |
| CryptoQuick | looking at that keyser00 paper you sent me... | 22:48 |
| kanzure | openscad -s "$output_stl_path" "$input_scad_file_path" &> $scad_error_log | 22:50 |
| CryptoQuick | quite | 22:50 |
| CryptoQuick | so, kanz, you telling me I should go with openscad? :P | 22:55 |
| kanzure | if you don't care about how the data is represented in memory then you really shouldn't concern yourself with CAD | 22:55 |
| CryptoQuick | well, I do care about that, actually | 22:56 |
| kanzure | then, pythonocc | 22:56 |
| CryptoQuick | I was looking into that | 22:56 |
| kanzure | fenn and i wrote a lot of geometry helpers and tried to make a simple api for pythonocc (sorta, it was a perpendicular goal) | 22:56 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/cgit/skdb | 22:56 |
| kanzure | it's in the geom/ folder | 22:56 |
| kanzure | pythonocc claims to provide a simplified api but last i checked (in 2008/2009) it was pretty awful | 22:57 |
| CryptoQuick | found a thread you were actually talking in, from May of this year | 23:01 |
| CryptoQuick | inside that, I found this link | 23:01 |
| CryptoQuick | that's basically what I'm planning to do... | 23:01 |
| CryptoQuick | http://www.1011ltd.com/web/blog/post/im_building_a_webgl_tool | 23:01 |
| kanzure | yep i remember that | 23:02 |
| kanzure | honestly if you understand the cad engine then it's not hard to rewrite it in javascript | 23:03 |
| CryptoQuick | I don't ... :T | 23:03 |
| CryptoQuick | although I'm a pretty capable programmer, I do have limitations :'T | 23:04 |
| kanzure | what are your limitations, sir | 23:05 |
| kanzure | (so far you fail pretty hard at bugging me) | 23:05 |
| CryptoQuick | you think so? :'( | 23:05 |
| CryptoQuick | well, I don't do CP, anything with blood, especially if it's human blood, and well, I'm not too fond of feces either | 23:05 |
| kanzure | what | 23:06 |
| CryptoQuick | those are the limitations, I stand by them | 23:06 |
| kanzure | are you british | 23:06 |
| kanzure | does "bugging" mean "i'm gonna rape you" in your accent or something | 23:06 |
| CryptoQuick | if I was british, I would have spelled that 'foeces' | 23:06 |
| CryptoQuick | bahaha | 23:06 |
| CryptoQuick | you asked about my limitations | 23:06 |
| CryptoQuick | though, rape is not one of them | 23:06 |
| kanzure | are you able to compile esolid? | 23:07 |
| kanzure | (or at least attempt to compile it to the point that it has some error that i presumably have the solution for somewhere) | 23:07 |
| CryptoQuick | how much time do you have right now? I was going to, but then realized I have only 68% battery right now. | 23:08 |
| CryptoQuick | right now. right now. van halon. | 23:09 |
| kanzure | i won't be up all night | 23:09 |
| CryptoQuick | oh yeah, that's right, you're trying to correct the sleep schedule. | 23:09 |
| kanzure | if you untar esolid are you able to run ./configure | 23:11 |
| CryptoQuick | :P | 23:11 |
| kanzure | what platform are you on? | 23:11 |
| kanzure | os | 23:11 |
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| CryptoQuick | I've got several | 23:12 |
| CryptoQuick | OS X 10.6, Windows 7, and of course, probably the more useful one is Fedora | 23:12 |
| kanzure | sure try fedora | 23:13 |
| kanzure | or osx | 23:13 |
| CryptoQuick | yeah | 23:13 |
| CryptoQuick | can't do it now though, a little predisposed | 23:13 |
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| kanzure | hi genehacker | 23:48 |
| xelxebar1 | predisposed? | 23:49 |
| xelxebar1 | Any LessWrongers hang out here? | 23:50 |
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