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| * CryptoQuick yawn~ | 01:36 | |
| CryptoQuick | that was a nice nap | 01:36 |
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| kanzure | CryptoQuick: stop sleeping! do more work | 01:50 |
| CryptoQuick | hell yeah! | 01:50 |
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| CryptoQuick | goodnight | 02:14 |
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| kanzure | back | 08:10 |
| CryptoQuick | you sleap much? | 08:11 |
| kanzure | got my five hours.. good to go | 08:11 |
| CryptoQuick | heh | 08:11 |
| kanzure | CryptoQuick: look at implicitcad | 08:59 |
| CryptoQuick | buh? | 09:00 |
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| CryptoQuick | > implying | 09:01 |
| kanzure | just suggesting it might be worth a few seconds of staring at the text.. | 09:04 |
| CryptoQuick | I searched for the term, but I'm not sure what I'm looking for or why you bring it up? | 09:04 |
| kanzure | http://christopherolah.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/talk.pdf | 09:05 |
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| CryptoQuick | aha, good stuff! | 09:07 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/colah/surfcad/blob/master/surfcad.py | 09:07 |
| CryptoQuick | well, I'll watch it. I'm actually thinking of picking up my own old voxel-based approach again. | 09:08 |
| kanzure | based on the content of the presentation i don't recommend watching | 09:09 |
| kanzure | seems to be the same-old-same-old | 09:09 |
| CryptoQuick | mmh | 09:09 |
| CryptoQuick | I just read the pdf, it looked neat though | 09:09 |
| CryptoQuick | hey man, I gotta split, but I'll leave this on. cya in a few! | 09:09 |
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| CryptoQuick | joshcryer: wut u doin here | 15:09 |
| CryptoQuick | "just doin muh job, holdin ur channel open" | 15:10 |
| joshcryer | bored lately but mainly been on IRC to discuss Grasshopper | 15:19 |
| CryptoQuick | nice | 15:19 |
| CryptoQuick | oh snap, stuff on #space | 15:19 |
| CryptoQuick | factor, we don't care, stfu about china, tyvm | 15:30 |
| joshcryer | heh | 15:33 |
| CryptoQuick | oh yeah, joshcryer, did you see muh thing? | 15:33 |
| CryptoQuick | I only posted it to like three different places~ | 15:34 |
| joshcryer | yeah I saw it | 15:34 |
| joshcryer | I check the logs | 15:34 |
| CryptoQuick | noice | 15:34 |
| CryptoQuick | haha, then you probably saw my other comment~ ;D | 15:35 |
| joshcryer | yeah | 15:35 |
| * CryptoQuick <3 u so bad~ | 15:35 | |
| kanzure | wtf | 15:36 |
| kanzure | what abotu me! | 15:36 |
| kanzure | *about | 15:36 |
| CryptoQuick | oh, Bryan, I'd be too much for you | 15:38 |
| CryptoQuick | heck, joshcryer has enough of me as it is | 15:38 |
| CryptoQuick | you couldn't handle all that I have to offer~ | 15:38 |
| joshcryer | there's certainly a lot of you to go around... >:P | 15:41 |
| CryptoQuick | joshcryer: more cushion for the pushin, hon | 15:42 |
| CryptoQuick | > implying i'm fat | 15:43 |
| joshcryer | heh heh | 15:44 |
| CryptoQuick | so, nanoblok is a mess. my strategy is to go back to the nb07 'branch', and port over the useful bits of the nearly 4k lines of JS I wrote | 15:45 |
| CryptoQuick | I'm also going to HTML5 THE SHIT out of this shit | 15:45 |
| CryptoQuick | for example, no more XHTML | 15:45 |
| CryptoQuick | inlining SVG in HTML5 renderers is now pretty established | 15:45 |
| joshcryer | btw I mostly take back what I said about imagemagick the other day, the command line memory limits don't appear to work in any configuration on win7 but if you set the environment variables it works fine | 15:46 |
| joshcryer | so if anyone encounters that issue, there's that... | 15:46 |
| CryptoQuick | question | 15:46 |
| CryptoQuick | is imagemagick like pil~ | 15:46 |
| joshcryer | I don't know pil but I think it probably does more | 15:46 |
| joshcryer | it, being imagemagick | 15:47 |
| CryptoQuick | heh | 15:47 |
| CryptoQuick | you'd be right | 15:47 |
| CryptoQuick | and pil on app engine is even more teh shit | 15:47 |
| joshcryer | afk, gotta run to the store dude :) | 15:49 |
| CryptoQuick | though, I suppose you could do more complex ops using blobstore writing and pull queues | 15:49 |
| CryptoQuick | whereas such as with HTML5 image data, like such as | 15:49 |
| CryptoQuick | god the possibilities are endless | 15:49 |
| CryptoQuick | aight, well, ask them if they have battletoads | 15:50 |
| CryptoQuick | joshcryer: ASK THEM IF THEY HAVE BATTLETOADS JESUS FUCK | 15:50 |
| CryptoQuick | ffs battletoads :'( | 15:50 |
| CryptoQuick | hey kanzure, did I ever tell you about the time I railed on joshcryer so bad it scared him off the internet for a year | 15:51 |
| CryptoQuick | yeah, that was me | 15:51 |
| jrayhawk | an abusive relationship :( | 15:52 |
| CryptoQuick | hey, I let him abuse me all the time | 15:52 |
| CryptoQuick | > implying implications | 15:52 |
| jrayhawk | i think you guys need counseling | 15:52 |
| CryptoQuick | i think you need to chill the fuck out | 15:52 |
| CryptoQuick | before I get muh baseball bat | 15:52 |
| jrayhawk | oh god i am now caught in the cycle of violence | 15:53 |
| CryptoQuick | that's right, now pay it forward~ | 15:53 |
| CryptoQuick | that's what my father always taught me to do | 15:53 |
| CryptoQuick | > implying daddy issues | 15:54 |
| joshcryer | wtf | 16:04 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: feel freeto kick anyoneyou hate | 16:04 |
| joshcryer | I'm still barely on the internet | 16:04 |
| joshcryer | low info ftw | 16:04 |
| kanzure | i'm reading the chatroom over here: | 16:04 |
| kanzure | http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution | 16:04 |
| kanzure | it's pretty funny | 16:04 |
| joshcryer | kanzure are you still maintaining your meetlog thing? | 16:04 |
| kanzure | yep | 16:04 |
| joshcryer | kanzure is the definition of high information absorption, no idea how he does it | 16:05 |
| kanzure | drugs | 16:05 |
| kanzure | brain damage | 16:05 |
| CryptoQuick | joshcryer is just shy~ | 16:05 |
| kanzure | don't sleep much | 16:05 |
| joshcryer | s/shy/antisocial | 16:05 |
| CryptoQuick | kanzure is wired like late 90s, early 00s WIRED | 16:05 |
| joshcryer | I used to think that the whole globalrevolution direct action protest thing was cool | 16:09 |
| joshcryer | but now I am cynical and think that the only way to effect change is through technological advancement, etc | 16:09 |
| kanzure | oh don't take chatrooms like this seriously.. c'mon.. | 16:09 |
| CryptoQuick | joshcryer: I agree | 16:10 |
| kanzure | 2000 of the users seem to be 9/11 conspiracy theorists | 16:10 |
| CryptoQuick | change by making | 16:10 |
| joshcryer | kanzure, I wasn't saying that you thought it was cool, or anything | 16:10 |
| joshcryer | I knew you were observing for lulz | 16:10 |
| kanzure | what is the half life of a 9/11 conspiracy theorist | 16:10 |
| CryptoQuick | kanzure: well, it's been ten years, so obviously longer than tritium | 16:12 |
| joshcryer | heh | 16:12 |
| joshcryer | approximately ten times that of a ron paul supporter? | 16:13 |
| CryptoQuick | joshcryer: can't knock down towers with a blimp | 16:13 |
| joshcryer | you just gotta build another twin towers and slam some planes into it | 16:15 |
| joshcryer | and prove the whole principle of the thing | 16:15 |
| joshcryer | the moon landing idiots have been almost largely silenced by the MRO photos of the landing spots | 16:15 |
| CryptoQuick | it was a soundstage on mars | 16:15 |
| CryptoQuick | the space shuttle definitely landed on the moon, do some research | 16:16 |
| joshcryer | what drugs kanzure | 16:17 |
| joshcryer | I can't even keep my eyes open 10 hours without nicotine and caffeine | 16:18 |
| joshcryer | lots of it | 16:18 |
| CryptoQuick | chrome on os x: | 16:21 |
| CryptoQuick | 1. open lots of tabs | 16:21 |
| CryptoQuick | 2. quickly run out of memory | 16:21 |
| CryptoQuick | 3. quit chrome | 16:21 |
| CryptoQuick | 4. instant 2 GB free memory | 16:21 |
| CryptoQuick | 5. free memory forever, memory companies go out of business | 16:21 |
| CryptoQuick | problem, kingston? | 16:21 |
| joshcryer | how many tabs are lots of tabs? | 16:22 |
| CryptoQuick | joshcryer: only 50 | 16:22 |
| joshcryer | gimp is currently using 1.5 gb but chrome with around ten tabs is 37 mb | 16:23 |
| CryptoQuick | FF7 supposed to have marked improvements on this issue | 16:23 |
| CryptoQuick | switching temporarily for fun & profit | 16:23 |
| CryptoQuick | but probably will keep chrome open for its awesome dev tools | 16:23 |
| CryptoQuick | joshcryer: you're not counting renderer processes | 16:24 |
| CryptoQuick | also, OS X memory hog hurr hurr | 16:24 |
| joshcryer | I made my mom switch to chrome | 16:25 |
| joshcryer | she only has 512 mb of ram and it's pretty cool :) | 16:25 |
| CryptoQuick | well, that would make sense | 16:25 |
| CryptoQuick | it's very low-maintenance | 16:25 |
| CryptoQuick | gah, I forgot that Firefox's JS engine is dog slow compared to V8 | 16:27 |
| kanzure | opera still handles 400 tabs ok | 16:32 |
| CryptoQuick | kanzure: I am a 99%er | 16:32 |
| CryptoQuick | @globalrevolution | 16:32 |
| joshcryer | lol | 16:32 |
| joshcryer | cryptotrolllolll | 16:33 |
| CryptoQuick | :coolface: | 16:33 |
| joshcryer | Anyone else doing the AI Class? http://www.ai-class.com/ | 16:36 |
| joshcryer | 9 days to go. | 16:36 |
| eudoxia | i am | 16:36 |
| joshcryer | Cool. :D | 16:37 |
| eudoxia | I was already reading the PAIP and I know Common Lisp so I thought it was only natural | 16:37 |
| eudoxia | but this class is in python right? | 16:37 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/ai-class.py | 16:38 |
| kanzure | ^please inflate the signup count | 16:38 |
| eudoxia | Though I think the AIMA is in CL... | 16:38 |
| kanzure | actually i think they took that form down.. | 16:38 |
| joshcryer | I thought it was Java or C++ or Lisp. | 16:38 |
| joshcryer | C/C++ | 16:38 |
| joshcryer | kanzure, wtf did you do that for? | 16:39 |
| kanzure | joshcryer: people seemed to be excited that it was "so high" | 16:41 |
| kanzure | as if something special would happen or "it's a big deal" | 16:41 |
| kanzure | so why not go all out.. | 16:41 |
| joshcryer | you're a regular dischordian | 16:41 |
| kanzure | I ONLY WANT TO BE LOVED | 16:41 |
| joshcryer | you and crypto would make a great team! | 16:41 |
| kanzure | we're really the same person | 16:41 |
| joshcryer | I want to see the drop out rate | 16:42 |
| joshcryer | as I expect myself to drop out fairly quick | 16:42 |
| joshcryer | especially if my copy of the book they're using is fail | 16:42 |
| eudoxia | did you pick the basic or advanced course? | 16:42 |
| * kanzure is presently trying the "walk away for a few minutes" method of solving a problem.. | 16:42 | |
| joshcryer | (it's an older edition and I refuse to pay for the latest edition) | 16:42 |
| eudoxia | kanzure, that's a mass sign up script? | 16:42 |
| joshcryer | eudoxia, advanced, you can always drop to the basic if you can't handle it | 16:42 |
| joshcryer | (and yes that's what that is) | 16:44 |
| eudoxia | what's the point | 16:45 |
| joshcryer | lol lulz apparently or something... | 16:45 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/grump.txt | 16:45 |
| kanzure | grr | 16:45 |
| joshcryer | are you taking the advanced, too? | 16:45 |
| kanzure | eudoxia: yes | 16:45 |
| kanzure | eudoxia: the point was that people seemed to get all elated about the "high signup number" so why not really amp it up.. | 16:46 |
| kanzure | i guess it would be funnier if it randomly signed up real/actual people | 16:46 |
| joshcryer | and this is why we can't have nice things | 16:47 |
| * joshcryer afk's | 16:56 | |
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| CryptoQuick | http://cheezburger.com/View/5263771904?_ts=1317513699950 | 17:02 |
| CryptoQuick | this is art~ | 17:02 |
| CryptoQuick | haha, sorry, spent the past half hour herp derping on ragebuilder | 17:03 |
| * CryptoQuick especially like this part: curl.setopt(curl.REFERER, "http://www.google.com/search?q=ai+class") | 17:20 | |
| kanzure | CryptoQuick: unfortunately almost everyone uses javascript-based analytics | 17:24 |
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| kanzure | so some of that is lost in shame | 17:24 |
| CryptoQuick | heh | 17:25 |
| CryptoQuick | hard to trick those, I would think | 17:25 |
| kanzure | nope.. use v8 js engine for your scraper | 17:25 |
| CryptoQuick | ... | 17:25 |
| CryptoQuick | my point still stands | 17:25 |
| kanzure | http://www.phantomjs.org/ | 17:25 |
| CryptoQuick | oh ffffu~ | 17:25 |
| CryptoQuick | christ, that's so awesome | 17:26 |
| CryptoQuick | their icon reminds me of | 17:27 |
| CryptoQuick | http://pbfcomics.com/240/ | 17:27 |
| joshcryer | why does the mop have eyes | 17:46 |
| eudoxia | janitor's glasses | 17:47 |
| joshcryer | Ahh | 17:48 |
| joshcryer | @garetlisi: Looking for a html/css/(+js) UX coder to help us finish the Science Hostel site. (free or low$) Team has done design, backend, and mockup. | 18:05 |
| joshcryer | @garrettlisi rather | 18:05 |
| eudoxia | that guy is friends with one guy who wrote an awesome H+ novel | 18:05 |
| foucist | what novel | 18:06 |
| eudoxia | After Life | 18:06 |
| joshcryer | He's the E8 guy, but what- what foucist said. | 18:06 |
| eudoxia | http://sifter.org/~simon/AfterLife/ | 18:06 |
| eudoxia | It's about the first upload | 18:06 |
| joshcryer | lol CryptoQuick | 18:10 |
| CryptoQuick | so, now that we have that out of the way~ | 18:10 |
| CryptoQuick | so, joshcryer, I don't suppose you know who owns www.auxons.org ...? | 18:10 |
| joshcryer | You? | 18:11 |
| CryptoQuick | http://whois.domaintools.com/auxons.org | 18:11 |
| CryptoQuick | ~~~ ;D | 18:11 |
| joshcryer | Sweet. | 18:11 |
| QuantumG | joshcryer: autojoin #spaceflight ya bum | 18:12 |
| CryptoQuick | ;D | 18:12 |
| joshcryer | It's too quiet! | 18:12 |
| CryptoQuick | no it's not, we have a plain stud man | 18:12 |
| joshcryer | I'm not cool enough to lurk in dead channels that I don't own. | 18:12 |
| QuantumG | shya, there's way more activity on #spaceflight than on #space | 18:12 |
| joshcryer | Fine I'll lurk there and test it. :P | 18:13 |
| joshcryer | That's good stuff though CryptoQuick. | 18:14 |
| CryptoQuick | at any rate, joshcryer, you know my plan now. I'm going to build a voxel physics simulator, render and edit it with nanoblok, and publish a simulation game at auxons.org to get the word out. | 18:14 |
| joshcryer | I have so much utterly insane stuff on my plate, but you should really set something up so we can publish a digital version of the JANAF thermochemical tables. | 18:14 |
| CryptoQuick | ;D | 18:14 |
| CryptoQuick | hm? | 18:14 |
| joshcryer | Oh it's for a game? Ha. | 18:14 |
| CryptoQuick | well, not just that | 18:15 |
| CryptoQuick | buh | 18:15 |
| CryptoQuick | didn't you read my open manufacturing email? | 18:15 |
| QuantumG | did I mention I'm reading Nanosystems cover to cover | 18:16 |
| CryptoQuick | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/openmanufacturing/GRHMygA4ics | 18:16 |
| joshcryer | Sweet. | 18:16 |
| joshcryer | They already digitized it! | 18:16 |
| joshcryer | http://kinetics.nist.gov/janaf/ | 18:16 |
| joshcryer | OMG, I'm so glad I looked for that. | 18:16 |
| QuantumG | first book in a while that I can read whole pages and go "hmm.. I have no idea what I just read.. I think I was daydreaming about ducks for that whole thing." | 18:16 |
| joshcryer | CryptoQuick, I read the Auxon intro you wrote. | 18:17 |
| CryptoQuick | yeah, but | 18:18 |
| CryptoQuick | "Although I'm a pretty capable programmer, I'm a bit tired of making websites and simple games-- they're just tools and toys. I eventually want to make something more meaningful, but I'm limited by the bounds of these glowing white rectangles and humming little boxes we so lovingly network and spend great deals of time tinkering with. It's as if I know how to do a lot, yet I know how to do nothing at all!" | 18:18 |
| eudoxia | Auxon... Isn't that from the KSRM? | 18:18 |
| joshcryer | Anyway, it's time to steal the NIST-JANAF Thermochemical Tables in digital format. | 18:18 |
| CryptoQuick | eudoxia: I don't think so | 18:18 |
| CryptoQuick | or if it was, it was only barely mentioned | 18:19 |
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| eudoxia | Oh right, "Lackner-Wendt Auxon Replicators". Apparently Auxon means 'any large self-replicating machine'. | 18:19 |
| CryptoQuick | mmh, quite | 18:19 |
| CryptoQuick | joshcryer: so, you in or what? :P | 18:20 |
| CryptoQuick | I'd need some help with the more cerebral part of things, considering it's going to involve doing a lot of things in terms of physics that I'm not 100% I can do. | 18:20 |
| CryptoQuick | you seem to be pretty on the up and up on this physics ... shit | 18:20 |
| joshcryer | CryptoQuick, I'm not in a capacity to be 'in' on anything but in time I definitely would share whatever I came up with. | 18:20 |
| CryptoQuick | oh, well, alright then | 18:20 |
| joshcryer | The ultimate goal for me is to create some sort of thermochemical modeller. | 18:20 |
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| joshcryer | Which would help be a basis for a larger scale industrial manufacturing designer. | 18:21 |
| CryptoQuick | I'm pretty much wanting to do the same, with discrete volumes, substance properties, states, and substance interaction events | 18:21 |
| QuantumG | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlBA9_3zj9w the conclusion is gold | 18:21 |
| joshcryer | Little magical maker machines are all well and good, but they're useless if you can't use them to design specialized factories. | 18:21 |
| CryptoQuick | of course | 18:22 |
| CryptoQuick | what I want to do at this point in time is simulate at a somewhat superficial level entire systems | 18:22 |
| CryptoQuick | that's the whole point, the flow and quantity of which materials go where, and how, and how much energy is used overall | 18:23 |
| CryptoQuick | just to get a good idea of what needs to be done, and what could be done. | 18:23 |
| joshcryer | QuantumG, yeah, that was funny, last 30 seconds. | 18:25 |
| kanzure | i might do the thing for garrett if he's still looking | 18:25 |
| kanzure | he somewhat sorta knows me | 18:25 |
| joshcryer | He added me to a circle on G+! *swoon* | 18:26 |
| kanzure | nah we've talked.. a few times | 18:26 |
| joshcryer | Probably his 'retarded people' list but still. | 18:26 |
| QuantumG | heh | 18:26 |
| kanzure | i think fenn knows him better | 18:26 |
| kanzure | i'm pretty sure he doesn't have a retarded people list | 18:26 |
| joshcryer | I love his Science Hostel idea. | 18:30 |
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| joshcryer | Looks like NIST really has gone all out with this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Chemical_Identifier | 19:15 |
| joshcryer | Looking for a method to download their entire database, don't see it as yet, might have to make a slow crawler. | 19:16 |
| joshcryer | Not entirely clear what I mean by that, their Kenetics website has all sorts of data, eg: http://webbook.nist.gov/cgi/cbook.cgi?ID=7440440&Units=SI | 19:18 |
| joshcryer | http://kinetics.nist.gov/janaf/html/C-002.html | 19:18 |
| joshcryer | This has happened in the last year or so. | 19:19 |
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| joshcryer | Ahh, somehow it's under copyright, so I suspect I won't be able to acquire the entire thing for free. | 19:22 |
| joshcryer | There we go, looks like several thousand dollars to acquire the entire database. | 19:23 |
| joshcryer | lawl | 19:24 |
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| joshcryer | Have some nice listening: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8hEcSIZxEI | 20:14 |
| kanzure | joshcryer: if it's nist then it's not under copyright :P | 21:10 |
| kanzure | CryptoQuick: also, i'm sorry i haven't given your emails a proper response | 21:13 |
| kanzure | i guess i should go do that soon | 21:13 |
| joshcryer | Don't. He's clingy. Like a beach seagul. Feed it once. It's all over! | 21:16 |
| joshcryer | j/k :) | 21:16 |
| QuantumG | caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw | 21:17 |
| kanzure | http://www.absolutereturn-alpha.com/Article/2361672/QIMs-Jaffray-Woodriff-The-monk-in-managed-futures.html | 21:17 |
| joshcryer | kanzure, it's weird, I haven't read the "Standard Reference Data Act" so don't know the implications, but it's not in the public domain as I'd assumed it would be: http://www.nist.gov/srd/publiclaw.cfm | 21:19 |
| joshcryer | This is the same with NWS historic data. | 21:19 |
| kanzure | hrm so he seems to just model everyone else as agents with partial information | 21:21 |
| foucist | exit | 21:34 |
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| kanzure | foucist: seems ineffective | 21:38 |
| Stee| | kanzure, new type of additive manufacturing that might have better implications for desktop manufacturing due to its resemblance of CNC milling | 21:39 |
| foucist | kanzure: wrong window heh | 21:46 |
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| kanzure | CryptoQuick: see pm | 22:24 |
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| joshcryer | QuantumG, is there a good breakdown of hydrothermal vent (black smoker) mineral composition? | 23:45 |
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| joshcryer | Searching for that brings up a bunch of papers mostly unrelated to a very basic mineralogical breakdown. | 23:46 |
| joshcryer | I can assume no two vents are the same of course. | 23:46 |
| QuantumG | I haven't looked.. | 23:46 |
| QuantumG | they say it's good shit | 23:46 |
| joshcryer | Yeah, copper is one thing they tout. Even gold (in small but usable quantities, especially the current pricing). | 23:47 |
| joshcryer | Found this, actually: http://www.terrapub.co.jp/journals/GJ/pdf/4102/41020141.pdf | 23:49 |
| joshcryer | I was apparently using bad keywords... thanks for humoring me. :) | 23:49 |
| joshcryer | Another: http://www.surtsey.is/SRS_publ/2009-XII/low_res/2009-XII_029-038_Chemical--lw.pdf | 23:53 |
| AlonzoTG | om | 23:54 |
| joshcryer | More: http://www.biocomplexity.usf.edu/docs/Pichler_et_al1999d.pdf | 23:55 |
| joshcryer | (Don't mind me, the logs are a good note pad.) | 23:55 |
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