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| Hexaflex | I didn't even know ## was valid | 02:29 |
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| Hexaflex | People asleep? | 02:43 |
| Hexaflex | :( | 02:44 |
| jrayhawk | or lurking | 02:50 |
| Hexaflex | that works too | 02:50 |
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| delinquentme | hell NO | 03:08 |
| delinquentme | well always lurKING | 03:09 |
| delinquentme | learning django atm | 03:09 |
| delinquentme | looking for HQ tutorials which arent just academic masturbation on viterbi algos in sequence analysis | 03:09 |
| delinquentme | how about you jrayhawk and Hexaflex | 03:09 |
| Hexaflex | I was getting food | 03:27 |
| Hexaflex | now I'm eating food | 03:27 |
| jrayhawk | that's "life extension", that is | 03:28 |
| Hexaflex | indeed | 03:28 |
| JayDugger | Good morning, everyone. | 03:29 |
| Hexaflex | morning o/ | 03:29 |
| JayDugger | Whoops! time for breakfast--the only meal of the day. | 03:30 |
| jrayhawk | I'm intermittently playing with iptables and also putting off playing with iptables | 03:30 |
| JayDugger | Heh. Beats my yesterday's wrestling with samba. | 03:30 |
| Hexaflex | I'm betting this room is one of the few places where my computing knowledge is well below the average | 03:33 |
| JayDugger | Depends on whether you count lurkers. | 03:33 |
| JayDugger | Keep learning, and keep improving. | 03:34 |
| Hexaflex | heh | 03:34 |
| delinquentme | JayDugger, are you CRed? | 03:42 |
| delinquentme | so JayDugger i was going to say that the CR thing has only been shown to increase the variance in lifespan | 03:45 |
| JayDugger | Right. | 03:45 |
| delinquentme | so yes while you could live MUCH longer .. could also be much shorter | 03:45 |
| delinquentme | so like.. eat healthy and work like mad at fixing shit :D | 03:46 |
| delinquentme | are there any algo designers in here?? | 03:46 |
| JayDugger | I know about the correlation, but i don't think it has a casual link. | 03:46 |
| JayDugger | Eating enough nutritious food and avoiding excess has its own benefits. | 03:47 |
| JayDugger | Gluttony's a sin, I'm told. :) | 03:47 |
| delinquentme | JayDugger, true but we're all statistics | 03:48 |
| delinquentme | :D | 03:48 |
| delinquentme | damn me and those 2 cookies i just ate | 03:48 |
| delinquentme | why cant cookies grant extra lives in mario | 03:49 |
| delinquentme | lives LIKE in maro | 03:49 |
| delinquentme | meh. | 03:49 |
| JayDugger | Yeah, if it wasn't bad for my health, i'd return to my 4C Group diet: Cookies, Candy, Coffee, and Campbell's soup. | 03:52 |
| delinquentme | basic food groups! | 03:53 |
| delinquentme | and when im making $$$ coffee >>> energy drinks | 03:54 |
| delinquentme | nom nom nom | 03:54 |
| delinquentme | my hearts not moving fast enough if i cant FEEL IT IN MY CHEST | 03:54 |
| * delinquentme unhealth | 03:54 | |
| JayDugger | :) Yeah, just watch out for when your teeth start to grind. | 03:54 |
| JayDugger | It's all fun and games until you lose a crown. | 03:54 |
| Hexaflex | I would like to eat healthily, but it's just too much effort, truth be told | 03:56 |
| JayDugger | Well... | 03:56 |
| JayDugger | it takes a long time to change eating habits. | 03:56 |
| JayDugger | I spent four years slowly reducing my sugar intake to its current low level. | 03:57 |
| Hexaflex | sugar is fine, it's salt that gets me | 03:57 |
| Hexaflex | at least I cook nowadays | 03:57 |
| JayDugger | Oh. | 03:57 |
| Hexaflex | although now I live by myself and such that's kinda unavoidable if I want to survive, hehe | 03:58 |
| JayDugger | I don't much like salty food, but I have pretty low standards for palatability. | 03:58 |
| Hexaflex | salt is my achilles heel foodwise | 03:58 |
| delinquentme | Hexaflex, ha i think im gonna get a fancy job w food | 03:59 |
| JayDugger | I hear the craving drops after about three months. | 03:59 |
| delinquentme | and just work | 03:59 |
| delinquentme | and then stay at work and play SC2 | 03:59 |
| delinquentme | then work more | 03:59 |
| delinquentme | go home once a week to shower | 03:59 |
| JayDugger | Nah, you need an employer with a shower. | 03:59 |
| delinquentme | ! | 03:59 |
| delinquentme | JayDugger, you're an innovator | 03:59 |
| Hexaflex | hehe | 03:59 |
| delinquentme | i can see it | 03:59 |
| delinquentme | oxford nanopore | 04:00 |
| delinquentme | my current love afair | 04:00 |
| Hexaflex | I have been slacking on my Sc2 due to starting LoL | 04:00 |
| Hexaflex | shame on me | 04:00 |
| delinquentme | Hexaflex, startig a new job? | 04:00 |
| JayDugger | LoL? | 04:00 |
| Hexaflex | league of legends | 04:00 |
| delinquentme | Ohhhh | 04:00 |
| delinquentme | yeahhh sc2 is tits | 04:00 |
| delinquentme | im about to hit gold :D | 04:00 |
| delinquentme | lol | 04:00 |
| Hexaflex | ;D | 04:00 |
| delinquentme | got my ASS kicked yesterady bc messy build order | 04:00 |
| delinquentme | blink stalkers woot woot | 04:01 |
| JayDugger | Thank you. | 04:01 |
| Hexaflex | I was diamond random in eu, but then I was gold in kr :( | 04:01 |
| Hexaflex | even taking P as my dominant race | 04:01 |
| delinquentme | kr? | 04:02 |
| delinquentme | yehh! | 04:02 |
| delinquentme | im a toss | 04:02 |
| Hexaflex | I live in Japan so yeah playing on the korean server | 04:02 |
| Hexaflex | or I was | 04:02 |
| delinquentme | Oh! yeahhh | 04:02 |
| delinquentme | HuK HuK Me KoREa ^_^;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; | 04:02 |
| Hexaflex | lol | 04:02 |
| Hexaflex | or kekeke I guess | 04:02 |
| delinquentme | <('.'<) <( '.' )> (>'.')> | 04:03 |
| delinquentme | thats the spirit! | 04:03 |
| Hexaflex | ^^ | 04:03 |
| delinquentme | Hexaflex, what do you do in japan? | 04:03 |
| Hexaflex | Not a whole lot | 04:03 |
| delinquentme | other than enjoy the fact women hit on men | 04:03 |
| Hexaflex | haha yeah | 04:03 |
| delinquentme | and they're asian. | 04:03 |
| delinquentme | <3 | 04:03 |
| Hexaflex | I was going to teach english but I wanted to be an assistant in a school really | 04:04 |
| Hexaflex | and no-where's hiring for that | 04:04 |
| delinquentme | an assistant? | 04:04 |
| Hexaflex | assistant teacher | 04:04 |
| delinquentme | whats the job description look like? | 04:04 |
| Hexaflex | rather than an actual teacher in charge and all | 04:04 |
| delinquentme | ah! specific subject? | 04:04 |
| delinquentme | oh derp english | 04:04 |
| Hexaflex | ;D | 04:04 |
| delinquentme | thats cool I've got a friend over there by the name of laura juku | 04:05 |
| delinquentme | we call her Ra Ra | 04:05 |
| Hexaflex | I did a CELTA back in the UK which involved teaching some students as a full teacher and it was pretty stressful just cause everything was on me | 04:05 |
| Hexaflex | heh | 04:05 |
| delinquentme | du know any devs for final fantasy? | 04:05 |
| Hexaflex | no but I wish I did | 04:05 |
| Hexaflex | my degree is in games design | 04:05 |
| delinquentme | its a joke. | 04:05 |
| delinquentme | they dont know anyone from "the outside" | 04:05 |
| Hexaflex | the new one is, yeah | 04:05 |
| Hexaflex | hah | 04:05 |
| delinquentme | ive heard about game devs who REALLY want to make games moving there | 04:06 |
| delinquentme | and the culture is NUTS! | 04:06 |
| delinquentme | maybe i dont want to be a complete machine..... | 04:06 |
| Hexaflex | heh yeah their work culture is pretty full on | 04:06 |
| delinquentme | ~99.8 | 04:06 |
| delinquentme | but then that also has to do with the JOBS FOR LYFE | 04:06 |
| delinquentme | thats called "not innovating" | 04:07 |
| Hexaflex | probably doesn't aid innovation no | 04:07 |
| Hexaflex | but then they've been fine in that department before | 04:07 |
| Hexaflex | due to their different culture in general, what seems normal over here isn't normal in the rest of the world | 04:07 |
| delinquentme | TRUE | 04:07 |
| Hexaflex | potentially | 04:07 |
| delinquentme | you dont need to innovate when you're lightyears ahead of anyone else | 04:08 |
| Hexaflex | :) | 04:08 |
| delinquentme | oh well thats just societal differences | 04:08 |
| delinquentme | like we humans are pretty fucking isolated | 04:08 |
| delinquentme | but like extrapolate that out into the cosmos | 04:08 |
| delinquentme | im pretty different from your average japanese salaryman | 04:08 |
| delinquentme | but like how different would we be to a alien race | 04:09 |
| Hexaflex | anywhere from exactly the same to total opposite | 04:09 |
| delinquentme | ID LOVE to see an alien race stop by and be like " Y U fucking around killing each other stupid humans?" | 04:09 |
| delinquentme | true! | 04:09 |
| Hexaflex | lol | 04:09 |
| delinquentme | and i mean opposite in ways that we cant even comprehend | 04:09 |
| delinquentme | Srsly if the protoss came around thats what they'd say | 04:09 |
| delinquentme | and then they'd give me a immortal to take to work | 04:10 |
| delinquentme | pew pew! | 04:10 |
| Hexaflex | I dunno man, the protoss are pretty warlike | 04:10 |
| Hexaflex | at least against the zerg taint | 04:10 |
| delinquentme | TRUE. | 04:10 |
| delinquentme | but we really only see their war tech | 04:10 |
| Hexaflex | they'd see us making tyranid models and decide we were infected | 04:10 |
| Hexaflex | heh yeah | 04:10 |
| delinquentme | for example | 04:10 |
| delinquentme | what is protoss lovin like | 04:10 |
| delinquentme | i donno! | 04:10 |
| delinquentme | how about culture? they've got sexy technology far shar | 04:10 |
| jrayhawk | the aliens are coming here to steal our jobs and exploit our healthcare and educational resources | 04:11 |
| jrayhawk | fukken protoss | 04:11 |
| delinquentme | warp in shit hell yeh! | 04:11 |
| delinquentme | LOLLOLOL | 04:11 |
| delinquentme | well they're not coming with higly advanced technology | 04:11 |
| delinquentme | just burritos | 04:11 |
| delinquentme | ( which are delish ) | 04:11 |
| Hexaflex | dey took our psi! | 04:11 |
| jrayhawk | I didn't know the protoss were big on burritos, but maybe a burrito is like an allegory for shield technology | 04:12 |
| delinquentme | no but really! if a highly logical like selfless alien race came around | 04:12 |
| delinquentme | maybe they would just observe us and be like " deze nubs " | 04:12 |
| Hexaflex | possibly possibly | 04:12 |
| delinquentme | not even stop to give us any attention | 04:12 |
| Hexaflex | depends if they'd met other races as well | 04:13 |
| delinquentme | ahh true! | 04:13 |
| Hexaflex | if we were the first alien race they'd encountered they'd probably talk regardless | 04:13 |
| delinquentme | they might not have a standard operating procedure for interaction | 04:13 |
| Hexaflex | yeah | 04:13 |
| delinquentme | we'd send the welcome wagon from independence day? | 04:13 |
| delinquentme | wom wom wommmmm | 04:13 |
| Hexaflex | heh | 04:14 |
| Hexaflex | was watching the WCG earlier | 04:15 |
| Hexaflex | I'm glad esports seems to be taking off | 04:15 |
| Hexaflex | hope that continues | 04:15 |
| delinquentme | hell YEH! | 04:16 |
| delinquentme | i was watching whiteRa's stream | 04:16 |
| delinquentme | and licking all the ads | 04:16 |
| delinquentme | multiple times | 04:16 |
| Hexaflex | o.o | 04:16 |
| delinquentme | CTR goes up! conversion rate DOWN. | 04:16 |
| Hexaflex | tmi my friend | 04:16 |
| delinquentme | lolol | 04:16 |
| delinquentme | just doing my part. | 04:17 |
| delinquentme | taking wan for the team | 04:17 |
| Hexaflex | no I mean, I don't need to know what you lick and what you don't lick | 04:17 |
| Hexaflex | typo har har | 04:17 |
| delinquentme | i like lick ads OKE> | 04:18 |
| delinquentme | whiteRa is boss though | 04:18 |
| delinquentme | picking up some micro tips | 04:18 |
| Hexaflex | whitera is the man | 04:18 |
| delinquentme | du still have sc2 installed? | 04:18 |
| delinquentme | Im decent w my macro | 04:18 |
| Hexaflex | yeah but only the TW/KR client] | 04:19 |
| delinquentme | gotta get some mcnasty micro down though | 04:19 |
| delinquentme | ohhhhhh | 04:19 |
| delinquentme | le gay | 04:19 |
| Hexaflex | my micro is actually better than my macro | 04:19 |
| delinquentme | really! | 04:19 |
| Hexaflex | which is probably why I like LoL | 04:19 |
| delinquentme | whats your fav build | 04:19 |
| Hexaflex | being all micro | 04:19 |
| delinquentme | well i love massive armys clashing | 04:19 |
| Hexaflex | 1gate exp vs T, FFE vs Z, 3gate robo v P | 04:19 |
| delinquentme | but then well executed micro is really satisfying | 04:19 |
| Hexaflex | I enjoy the earlygame micro | 04:19 |
| delinquentme | FFE? | 04:19 |
| Hexaflex | denying worker scouts and such | 04:20 |
| Hexaflex | forge fast expand | 04:20 |
| delinquentme | ahhhh true! just today I out expanded a zerg | 04:20 |
| delinquentme | was peachy w myself | 04:20 |
| Hexaflex | heh | 04:20 |
| delinquentme | and up untill about a week ago i wasnt using sentrys at all | 04:20 |
| delinquentme | effing spell casters rock | 04:21 |
| Hexaflex | yeah I don't use sentries as much as most players | 04:21 |
| Hexaflex | just enough for the ff and a shield | 04:21 |
| Hexaflex | I love blink micro though | 04:21 |
| Hexaflex | I spend far too much time reading TL/Reddit/Solomid | 04:22 |
| Hexaflex | but then it is technically my profession | 04:23 |
| Hexaflex | so it all counts | 04:23 |
| delinquentme | excuse me one moment i need to go scream in #django | 04:23 |
| Hexaflex | npnp | 04:23 |
| Hexaflex | sorry jay and jray if the gaming talk is not your cup of tea | 04:23 |
| delinquentme | blink micro on saving that unit ... SO good. | 04:24 |
| delinquentme | 04:24 | |
| Hexaflex | yeah I knew you used reddit from the le | 04:24 |
| Hexaflex | just blinking back in waves from roaches | 04:24 |
| Hexaflex | good fun | 04:24 |
| delinquentme | from the le? | 04:24 |
| Hexaflex | <delinquentme> le gay | 04:24 |
| delinquentme | HA | 04:24 |
| Hexaflex | redit | 04:24 |
| Hexaflex | for sure | 04:24 |
| delinquentme | dude. django | 04:25 |
| delinquentme | grrr. its cool | 04:25 |
| Hexaflex | last time I did any coding was A-levels | 04:26 |
| Hexaflex | I just design things | 04:26 |
| Hexaflex | much easier | 04:26 |
| delinquentme | pshooper? | 04:26 |
| Hexaflex | nah nah | 04:26 |
| Hexaflex | well yes but I'm not great | 04:26 |
| delinquentme | ever heard of smarterer? | 04:26 |
| Hexaflex | nope | 04:26 |
| delinquentme | ahh kk | 04:26 |
| delinquentme | i been shooping for like 12 years | 04:27 |
| Hexaflex | I mean level design, player interaction etc etc | 04:27 |
| delinquentme | OH! | 04:27 |
| delinquentme | hot! | 04:27 |
| Hexaflex | yeah I can use photoshop but I'm not great | 04:27 |
| Hexaflex | like I can 3dsmax/maya but you wouldn't ask me to do it for something that actually matters | 04:27 |
| delinquentme | *shrug* now im trying to learn algos and heavy statistics to use in machine learning and frikken bioinformatics | 04:27 |
| delinquentme | so like weh. | 04:27 |
| Hexaflex | hehe | 04:27 |
| Hexaflex | good luck | 04:28 |
| delinquentme | its not bad | 04:28 |
| delinquentme | just fucking academia | 04:28 |
| Hexaflex | academia | 04:28 |
| delinquentme | anything science REEKS of it unless you're on the edge | 04:28 |
| Hexaflex | is such bollocks | 04:28 |
| delinquentme | well | 04:28 |
| delinquentme | they're scared | 04:28 |
| delinquentme | they should be | 04:28 |
| delinquentme | software is faster | 04:28 |
| delinquentme | and breeds on evolution | 04:28 |
| delinquentme | not the good old boy model of " i took it in the ass for 52 years and now i get tenure!! " | 04:29 |
| Hexaflex | I mean that in the way that they put hurdles in the way of perfectly good research because it doesn't lead on from something else that some other bloke wrote last year etc | 04:29 |
| Hexaflex | heh yeah | 04:29 |
| delinquentme | just .. no. Sorry you made that decision | 04:29 |
| Hexaflex | ^^ | 04:29 |
| delinquentme | omg and im in r/askscience all the time | 04:29 |
| delinquentme | and people joke | 04:29 |
| delinquentme | about putting grad students to machine tasks | 04:30 |
| delinquentme | * calmly composes self * | 04:30 |
| Hexaflex | haha | 04:30 |
| delinquentme | and then i just want to cut into their brain in order to tease out the reasoning as to what makes a "grad student brain" more deft at monotony than their additional 5 years of education | 04:31 |
| delinquentme | machine tasks are fucking machine tasks. | 04:31 |
| delinquentme | OH! and i wrote this shit talker from MIT ( whos bashing DIY bio for oversimplifying everything ) | 04:31 |
| Hexaflex | it's not about what actually helps progress, it's about how we can keep people busy | 04:31 |
| delinquentme | HAHAHA | 04:31 |
| delinquentme | Grrrrr | 04:31 |
| delinquentme | yes. | 04:31 |
| delinquentme | warm body syndrome | 04:32 |
| delinquentme | it makes the world go round | 04:32 |
| Hexaflex | exactly | 04:32 |
| delinquentme | but yeah mr MIT synth bio hasnt replied | 04:32 |
| delinquentme | I guess so far I've managed to half-decently encapsulate the difficulties associated with medical robotics? | 04:32 |
| delinquentme | wheres a blowtorch | 04:32 |
| Hexaflex | heh | 04:33 |
| delinquentme | sigh | 04:33 |
| delinquentme | i use big words when im angry | 04:33 |
| Hexaflex | *le sigh | 04:33 |
| delinquentme | lol | 04:33 |
| delinquentme | i gotta work on that | 04:33 |
| delinquentme | ^^^^ | 04:33 |
| Hexaflex | nothing wrong with using big words as long as it gets the point across | 04:33 |
| Hexaflex | the point of language is to communicate, and if long words more accurately describe the situation then go right ahead | 04:34 |
| delinquentme | True! but theres a lot of good in the ability to express something simply | 04:34 |
| Hexaflex | yeah ofc | 04:34 |
| delinquentme | true true | 04:34 |
| delinquentme | so its all about knowing the audience | 04:34 |
| Hexaflex | exactly | 04:34 |
| delinquentme | research papers need to be gateway drugs | 04:34 |
| Hexaflex | haha | 04:34 |
| Hexaflex | yes | 04:34 |
| delinquentme | but they fail to be bc even the abstracts are too convoluted to be read by your average american | 04:35 |
| delinquentme | a project rewriting abstracts of all the current research papers would b e phenomenal | 04:35 |
| Hexaflex | trying to take meaning from psychology papers to use in my dissertation was a nightmare | 04:35 |
| Hexaflex | because they just used the longest words possible to sound intelligent | 04:35 |
| delinquentme | psychology degree?? | 04:35 |
| delinquentme | yeap. | 04:36 |
| delinquentme | haha | 04:36 |
| delinquentme | fucking human signaling | 04:36 |
| Hexaflex | indeed | 04:36 |
| Hexaflex | yeah the thing is, we were doing games design, and there's very few papers on the subjecy | 04:36 |
| Hexaflex | it being so new | 04:36 |
| delinquentme | Hexaflex, you've got a masters in shrinkology? | 04:36 |
| Hexaflex | nope nope games design | 04:36 |
| Hexaflex | I did psychology at A-level | 04:37 |
| delinquentme | ohhh so you were looking into the psychology | 04:37 |
| Hexaflex | we used psychological research as the basis of our testing | 04:37 |
| Hexaflex | yeah | 04:37 |
| delinquentme | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GCE_Advanced_Level ? | 04:37 |
| delinquentme | ohhh | 04:37 |
| delinquentme | so this is like | 04:37 |
| Hexaflex | yeah | 04:37 |
| Hexaflex | pre-university | 04:37 |
| delinquentme | damn! | 04:37 |
| delinquentme | i was about to say " stuff you learn at a university minus all the electives and humanity bullshit " | 04:38 |
| Hexaflex | haha | 04:38 |
| Hexaflex | what electives and humanity bullshit | 04:38 |
| delinquentme | niiiiceee saving people money AND advancing humanity | 04:38 |
| Hexaflex | this is the uk | 04:38 |
| Hexaflex | I did my degree and nothing else | 04:38 |
| delinquentme | GOD | 04:38 |
| delinquentme | thats so liberating | 04:38 |
| Hexaflex | ;D | 04:38 |
| Hexaflex | not a bad system | 04:38 |
| delinquentme | electives = additional time to spend in school getting drunk and trying your newest breeding method | 04:39 |
| Hexaflex | heh yeah | 04:39 |
| delinquentme | lol again. fucking humans | 04:39 |
| Hexaflex | you're from the US then right? | 04:39 |
| delinquentme | Y U BREED | 04:39 |
| Hexaflex | lol | 04:39 |
| delinquentme | Y U NO ADVANCE | 04:39 |
| delinquentme | yeaaaaa | 04:39 |
| delinquentme | been all over the place so Im lucky to not be attached to that idea of " have friends keep friends .. then do what friends do " | 04:40 |
| Hexaflex | yeah they always used to warn us against that | 04:40 |
| delinquentme | poor girlfriend has been on FB too much and seeing people getting married and going to the beach | 04:40 |
| Hexaflex | heh | 04:40 |
| Hexaflex | FB is a dangerous tool | 04:40 |
| delinquentme | and im like " yes thats the only time they're alive " | 04:40 |
| delinquentme | FB = interactive MTV ? | 04:41 |
| Hexaflex | possibly | 04:41 |
| Hexaflex | I do appreciate it though, being half the world away from the rest of my social group | 04:41 |
| delinquentme | absolutely! | 04:41 |
| Hexaflex | or my home social group at least | 04:41 |
| Hexaflex | but then that's more a property of the internet than FB itself | 04:41 |
| Hexaflex | worldwide spread | 04:42 |
| delinquentme | all hail the interwebs | 04:42 |
| Hexaflex | hail o/ | 04:42 |
| delinquentme | but yeah knowing who you are and how you're different from friends | 04:42 |
| delinquentme | so so so so key | 04:42 |
| Hexaflex | seriously, most important invention of recent memory | 04:42 |
| Hexaflex | hehe yeah | 04:42 |
| delinquentme | internet, cellphones | 04:42 |
| delinquentme | and im also putting commodization of super computing | 04:43 |
| Hexaflex | well all my friends before I went to uni were mostly outdoorsy types | 04:43 |
| Hexaflex | yeah | 04:43 |
| delinquentme | simply : making super computers available to all | 04:43 |
| Hexaflex | affordable | 04:43 |
| delinquentme | yeh! | 04:43 |
| Hexaflex | the economics of supercomputing as it were | 04:43 |
| delinquentme | montecarlo sims TYVM | 04:43 |
| Hexaflex | hehe | 04:43 |
| delinquentme | but yeah its awesome to have friends | 04:43 |
| delinquentme | but theres also downfalls of having too many | 04:43 |
| delinquentme | it takes time to manage friendships | 04:44 |
| delinquentme | and if your interests dont align w the friends interests | 04:44 |
| Hexaflex | yeah there's a limit on how many friendships you can actually sustain at one time | 04:44 |
| delinquentme | well thats a TON of energy | 04:44 |
| delinquentme | oh oh oh! | 04:44 |
| delinquentme | and. | 04:44 |
| Hexaflex | hence the reason people grow out of touch with friends from college/uni/work etc | 04:45 |
| delinquentme | Anton | 04:45 |
| Hexaflex | Anton? | 04:45 |
| delinquentme | yeahh but the solution to that is no who you are .. and be open and cool about communicating it .. and youll make friends easily | 04:45 |
| delinquentme | <3 geeking out at coffee shops | 04:45 |
| delinquentme | Anton is _THE_ molecular dynamics super computer | 04:45 |
| delinquentme | basically our "in silico" modelling is shit | 04:45 |
| Hexaflex | never heard of it :O | 04:46 |
| delinquentme | like we cant simulate fast enough to get anything of use | 04:46 |
| Hexaflex | which surprises me | 04:46 |
| Hexaflex | hah | 04:46 |
| delinquentme | so we've got to run anything interesting in actual goo and chemicals | 04:46 |
| Hexaflex | nice nice[ | 04:46 |
| delinquentme | but since anton is specifically made for molecular dynamics | 04:46 |
| delinquentme | its can simulate like micro seconds | 04:46 |
| delinquentme | wheras everything before was nano | 04:47 |
| delinquentme | so like .. we could accurately simulate ...*drum roll* | 04:47 |
| delinquentme | A WATER MOLECULE! | 04:47 |
| Hexaflex | ^^ | 04:47 |
| delinquentme | ( at least the molecular interactions ) | 04:47 |
| delinquentme | but yeh this is my current pursuit | 04:47 |
| Hexaflex | I have very little knowledge on the subject, but yeah it sounds cool | 04:48 |
| Hexaflex | nice man | 04:48 |
| delinquentme | land job in sciency position working with either algo design or web related science stuff | 04:48 |
| delinquentme | and then work the machine learning in bio | 04:48 |
| Hexaflex | cool | 04:48 |
| delinquentme | *shrug* | 04:48 |
| delinquentme | science can be cool | 04:48 |
| Hexaflex | science is cool | 04:49 |
| Hexaflex | honestly | 04:49 |
| delinquentme | its sure as shit not what they teach in classes though | 04:49 |
| Hexaflex | hah | 04:49 |
| delinquentme | you're absolutely right | 04:49 |
| Hexaflex | classes are to pass tests | 04:49 |
| delinquentme | yeap! | 04:49 |
| delinquentme | we need to give kids the sexy shit! | 04:49 |
| Hexaflex | yeah, true | 04:49 |
| delinquentme | do you want to dissect a frog | 04:49 |
| delinquentme | no | 04:49 |
| delinquentme | do you want to fire up 500 cores of amazon processing power to....... | 04:49 |
| delinquentme | chop through the data which makes up life and might allow us to reverse engineer genes | 04:50 |
| delinquentme | uh yeh option2 | 04:50 |
| delinquentme | prez | 04:50 |
| Hexaflex | I dunno, dissecting a frog can be useful for basic anatomy ;P | 04:50 |
| Hexaflex | dpeends on the level :D | 04:50 |
| delinquentme | true | 04:50 |
| delinquentme | i guess its " what appeals to the kid " | 04:51 |
| delinquentme | me I want to further this crazy idea that I might be able to conribute to extending human life | 04:51 |
| Hexaflex | appeals and building on what they already know | 04:51 |
| Hexaflex | hell yes | 04:51 |
| delinquentme | fucking quad copters! | 04:51 |
| delinquentme | those are hot | 04:51 |
| Hexaflex | haha | 04:51 |
| Hexaflex | they're so good | 04:51 |
| delinquentme | omg yes. | 04:51 |
| delinquentme | like ive got a scheme to get my bro into it | 04:52 |
| delinquentme | i mean robotics and engineering | 04:52 |
| delinquentme | quad copter = gateway drug | 04:52 |
| Hexaflex | lol | 04:52 |
| Hexaflex | yeah I can see that | 04:52 |
| delinquentme | hell yeh man! mount a camera on it | 04:52 |
| delinquentme | rig up some rocket enginges to shoot things off of it | 04:52 |
| delinquentme | #mayhem #destruction #anonymity | 04:53 |
| Hexaflex | ^^ | 04:53 |
| Hexaflex | usually gets people's attention | 04:53 |
| delinquentme | brining child hellishness into the 21st century | 04:53 |
| delinquentme | id use it to peep | 04:53 |
| delinquentme | but my brothers a better person than i am | 04:53 |
| delinquentme | (good thing ) | 04:54 |
| Hexaflex | mostly one of the problems is that people assume kids can't understand | 04:54 |
| Hexaflex | but if they actually try giving them the information, sometimes they do | 04:54 |
| delinquentme | Hexaflex, do you have any demo-able titles? | 04:54 |
| delinquentme | YEH! | 04:54 |
| delinquentme | or they've got ADHD | 04:54 |
| Hexaflex | yup | 04:54 |
| delinquentme | SORRY teacher you're boring! | 04:54 |
| delinquentme | YOU dont like what you chose to dedicate your life to | 04:54 |
| delinquentme | fuck. | 04:54 |
| Hexaflex | haha | 04:55 |
| delinquentme | or you didnt work hard enough to get to where you wanted | 04:55 |
| * delinquentme introspection | 04:55 | |
| delinquentme | me STFUs | 04:55 |
| Hexaflex | and no, no demoable titles, I'm only just out of uni, most I've done so far is some testing | 04:55 |
| Hexaflex | will hopefully get a design job when I go back to the UK, I was top of my class so it should be ok hopefully | 04:56 |
| Hexaflex | most of my friends are having some trouble | 04:56 |
| Hexaflex | what with everything being fucked at the moment | 04:56 |
| delinquentme | Hexaflex, ever hear of a game called overgrowth? | 04:56 |
| delinquentme | lemme get u a vid | 04:56 |
| Hexaflex | I haven't, but thanks | 04:56 |
| delinquentme | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLeb-NWOrsQ | 04:57 |
| delinquentme | indy game | 04:57 |
| delinquentme | like granted this is prob best of the best | 04:57 |
| delinquentme | but indy no less | 04:57 |
| delinquentme | and its #orgasmixx | 04:58 |
| Hexaflex | Ahh from the guy who made lugaru judging from the graphics | 04:58 |
| Hexaflex | wolfire? | 04:58 |
| delinquentme | yeah!!! | 04:58 |
| delinquentme | so you know the summation | 04:58 |
| delinquentme | ninja fighting rabbit parkour videogame | 04:58 |
| Hexaflex | haha playing the mirror's edge music | 04:58 |
| Hexaflex | nice | 04:58 |
| delinquentme | oh yeah man | 04:58 |
| Hexaflex | yeah the orignal was well ahead of it's time | 04:58 |
| delinquentme | imagination at work | 04:58 |
| Hexaflex | hah | 04:59 |
| delinquentme | humans | 04:59 |
| delinquentme | we're so so so fucking beautifully wonderfully CAPABLE | 04:59 |
| delinquentme | *GUSHES* | 04:59 |
| Hexaflex | lol | 04:59 |
| Hexaflex | it's pretty good | 04:59 |
| delinquentme | make sure you get to the 2:20 mark | 05:00 |
| delinquentme | :D | 05:00 |
| delinquentme | chilling | 05:00 |
| Hexaflex | for an indy dev it's very impressive | 05:01 |
| Hexaflex | but honestly I think he made a mistake using the mirror's edge music | 05:02 |
| Hexaflex | because it's unflattering compared to the one jump/climb up edge/somersault mid-air animation loop he's showing off | 05:02 |
| Hexaflex | mirror's edge was a complete game and he's showing a tech demo, a nice tech demo, but a demo | 05:03 |
| Hexaflex | using another piece of music would have avoided the comparison | 05:03 |
| Hexaflex | wall running as well, durr. But yeah mirror's edge had that and more | 05:04 |
| Hexaflex | being a fully released multi-platform title and all | 05:04 |
| delinquentme | true true | 05:05 |
| delinquentme | i REALLY would love to play through mirrors edge | 05:05 |
| Hexaflex | it's a great game | 05:05 |
| Hexaflex | sadly underrated | 05:05 |
| delinquentme | video games such a wonderfully visceral way to get involved in something thats beyond what everyone thinks is "real" | 05:05 |
| Hexaflex | yep | 05:05 |
| Hexaflex | it's real for the amount of time you're playing the game | 05:06 |
| Hexaflex | it's a fascinating medium | 05:06 |
| Hexaflex | I bloody love it ;P | 05:06 |
| delinquentme | Hexaflex, my usual comment is what is real | 05:07 |
| delinquentme | real is *duh dump* | 05:07 |
| delinquentme | electrical signals | 05:07 |
| Hexaflex | in yo brain | 05:07 |
| delinquentme | one stimulus or another | 05:07 |
| delinquentme | its all electrical signals | 05:07 |
| Hexaflex | true | 05:08 |
| delinquentme | and if it can inject a little bit of that imagination crack into a kids head | 05:08 |
| delinquentme | hell yeh | 05:08 |
| delinquentme | I WANT the cities I see in final fantasy | 05:08 |
| Hexaflex | haha yeah | 05:08 |
| delinquentme | I WANT the space fairing awesomeness I see in EvE online | 05:08 |
| delinquentme | nah its ok you stay here earth bound head wrapped up in jersey shore | 05:08 |
| Hexaflex | the reason people enjoy looking at it is because we like it as an idea | 05:08 |
| Hexaflex | lol | 05:09 |
| delinquentme | im gonna reside elsewhere | 05:09 |
| Hexaflex | people are people | 05:09 |
| delinquentme | true | 05:09 |
| Hexaflex | people are very different to other people | 05:09 |
| delinquentme | we are human | 05:09 |
| Hexaflex | yep | 05:09 |
| delinquentme | and I do fap | 05:09 |
| Hexaflex | orly | 05:09 |
| delinquentme | so im not entirely guiltless | 05:09 |
| delinquentme | lolol | 05:09 |
| Hexaflex | ^^ | 05:09 |
| delinquentme | i had this convo w my mother | 05:10 |
| delinquentme | really | 05:10 |
| delinquentme | i just want people | 05:10 |
| delinquentme | to come to terms with their latent capacity | 05:10 |
| delinquentme | i wish for every person out there to realize that of their progeny they are THE most ADVANCEd thing to happen to that lineage | 05:10 |
| delinquentme | and they are WILDLY INNATELY capable. | 05:10 |
| delinquentme | if we had that we'd all live to 1000 by tomorrow | 05:11 |
| Hexaflex | it doesn't make economic sense for everyone to innovate though | 05:11 |
| delinquentme | hmmm | 05:11 |
| delinquentme | explain | 05:11 |
| Hexaflex | the whole thing is making jobs and keeping people working etc | 05:11 |
| Hexaflex | if we invented new things all the time then it would mess up the markets | 05:11 |
| delinquentme | ummm | 05:12 |
| Hexaflex | it would be a good thing ultimately, and it's what I would prefer, but it would involve mass disruption | 05:12 |
| delinquentme | sacrafice innovation for the market? | 05:12 |
| delinquentme | duh? | 05:12 |
| Hexaflex | hehe | 05:12 |
| delinquentme | lets kill the internet bc it decentralizes things? | 05:12 |
| Hexaflex | that's exactly what they want to do, yes | 05:13 |
| delinquentme | my buddy has a term for this | 05:13 |
| Hexaflex | SOPA etc | 05:13 |
| delinquentme | when is that going down | 05:13 |
| delinquentme | the voting | 05:13 |
| Hexaflex | keeping the people who are in power still in power is the most important thing | 05:13 |
| Hexaflex | to the people in power | 05:13 |
| Hexaflex | no idea | 05:13 |
| Hexaflex | tbh | 05:13 |
| Hexaflex | soon | 05:13 |
| Hexaflex | the only place I get news on it from is reddit | 05:13 |
| delinquentme | ive signed petitions | 05:13 |
| delinquentme | reddit is gud. | 05:14 |
| Hexaflex | idd | 05:14 |
| delinquentme | 4chan put up a fake out about it saying they've been blocked :D | 05:14 |
| delinquentme | thatll do it :D | 05:14 |
| Hexaflex | hah | 05:14 |
| Hexaflex | yeah | 05:14 |
| Hexaflex | but yeah the most important thing isn't improving the human race as a whole | 05:15 |
| Hexaflex | but keeping the status quo | 05:15 |
| delinquentme | lolololol | 05:15 |
| Hexaflex | because the people who decide those things are at the top | 05:15 |
| Hexaflex | so they want to keep it that way | 05:15 |
| delinquentme | Hexaflex, you're on point | 05:15 |
| delinquentme | WELL | 05:15 |
| delinquentme | there is one redeeming thing | 05:15 |
| delinquentme | people at the top (presumably) love life | 05:15 |
| delinquentme | so guess what they'll pay for life extension | 05:16 |
| Hexaflex | so extending life would be a bonus | 05:16 |
| Hexaflex | yeah | 05:16 |
| delinquentme | all their worldy goods | 05:16 |
| Hexaflex | it needs to get to a tipping point where a few more years will make success though | 05:16 |
| Hexaflex | for them to risk their comfortable retirement for longer life | 05:16 |
| Hexaflex | when the new guns below them are bucking to take over | 05:16 |
| Hexaflex | because if they back life extension and lose, then their retirement is broken | 05:17 |
| Hexaflex | so they play it safe | 05:17 |
| Hexaflex | brb | 05:18 |
| delinquentme | ahhh treu true i was looking at it from a "problem solved" standpoint | 05:19 |
| delinquentme | which I think is whats going to happen | 05:19 |
| delinquentme | BREAKING | 05:19 |
| delinquentme | ill BBL | 05:19 |
| delinquentme | ttyl! | 05:19 |
| Hexaflex | hopefully it'll all work out | 05:21 |
| Hexaflex | be back on tomorrow at some point, from my point of view | 05:21 |
| Hexaflex | o/ | 05:21 |
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| kanzure | what.. what happened there | 07:30 |
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| kanzure | "common contracts" http://openideas.ideon.co/2011/cure-for-jurisdyslexia-discovered? | 08:45 |
| kanzure | hrm, i'm pretty sure that exists on legalzoom or something | 08:46 |
| kanzure | it would be nice to have a score card for a contract i guess | 08:46 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure, | 11:31 |
| delinquentme | the references sheets? hyper polymath? | 11:31 |
| delinquentme | hyper polyglot .. hyper rennisance hyper ... something | 11:31 |
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| * ybit wask afk for weeks and missed nothing it seems | 12:12 | |
| * ybit goes back to being afk | 12:12 | |
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| kanzure | neh.. http://learningthreejs.com/blog/2011/12/10/constructive-solid-geometry-with-csg-js/ | 12:49 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/svensken/Pacer | 12:51 |
| kanzure | http://pacerpcr.com/ | 12:51 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/svensken/Pacer/blob/master/Circuit/schematic_snapshot.png | 12:52 |
| kanzure | using git for pdfs and pngs.. hrm | 12:52 |
| kanzure | although i do find the pyqt ui amusing | 12:53 |
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| Mariu | hey CRM114 | 14:14 |
| CRM114 | hi people | 14:14 |
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| kanzure | fenn: that space station is no longer accessible | 14:46 |
| Mariu | EvE - Online ? | 14:47 |
| Mariu | hey kanzure | 14:48 |
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| kanzure | hi mariu | 14:57 |
| Mariu | Hello, kanzure ! | 14:58 |
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| kanzure | hmm | 20:15 |
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| kanzure | http://groups.google.com/group/diybio/t/370f8959c03041fe | 21:40 |
| kanzure | so... in that scenario, | 21:40 |
| kanzure | all royalty and licensing fees get paid back to the govt | 21:40 |
| kanzure | for subsidizing r&d | 21:40 |
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| kanzure | <?php if($_REQUEST['page']>0){}else{$_REQUEST['page']=1;}; ?> | 22:10 |
| kanzure | i inherited a php project :/ | 22:11 |
| kanzure | mkdir ($_REQUEST['dir_loc'],0777); | 22:11 |
| kanzure | :( | 22:11 |
| strangewarp | christ | 22:14 |
| kanzure | <td <?php if($cnt%2==0){?>class="row_even"<?php }else{?>class="row_odd"<?php }?>> | 22:14 |
| kanzure | <3 | 22:14 |
| kanzure | <?echo '<script type="text/javascript">'; if( (!isset( $_REQUEST['tab'] ) || !is_numeric($_REQUEST['tab'])) ){$_REQUEST['tab'] = 1;} print "var tab = {$_REQUEST['tab']};\n"; print 'toggleTab(tab,4,0,false);'; ?></script> | 22:48 |
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| kanzure | http://pastebin.com/KHmuhmRF | 23:04 |
| kanzure | AHHHHH | 23:04 |
| superkuh | That looks like the kind of script I write. | 23:06 |
| strangewarp | Loving that terrible-ass code | 23:06 |
| kanzure | superkuh: if you need to use php for web applications in the future then please consider looking at phpcake or codeigniter (or similar) | 23:08 |
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| jrayhawk | man, i don't even like programming and even I feel a compulsion to fix that | 23:20 |
| kanzure | wait until you see download.php?filepath=../exploit/me/exploit/me | 23:20 |
| jrayhawk | Yeah, I sorta suspected there was no sanitization of either input or output. | 23:21 |
| jrayhawk | I guess PHP and vBASIC are useful as honeypots. | 23:22 |
| kanzure | every time you load a page | 23:22 |
| kanzure | it generates a new pdf with stuff from the mysql db | 23:22 |
| kanzure | by loading a php/pdf library (custom compiled, of course) | 23:22 |
| kanzure | (custom compiled for the wrong architecture?) | 23:23 |
| kanzure | and it mkdir's for that pdf file to exist somewhere. then it sets 777 on the directory. | 23:23 |
| kanzure | this makes me happy: http://f-billing.com/invoice.php (it's ugly, but it has some slick js) | 23:24 |
| jrayhawk | they charge thirty dollars for an invoice template? | 23:27 |
| kanzure | oh their actual products? ignore them | 23:27 |
| kanzure | just steal the javascript and modify the css | 23:27 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: http://twitter.com/qualityphp | 23:52 |
| jrayhawk | http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2803713 is also fairly good | 23:57 |
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