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| augur | eridu: hey | 09:11 |
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| @kanzure | hello | 09:12 |
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| jk4930 | kanzure: are you online? | 10:58 |
| jk4930 | i meant, are you available at this time? | 10:58 |
| @kanzure | hello | 11:03 |
| ybit | jk4930 | 11:11 |
| jk4930 | hey bryan, we've someone here in Germany who wants to push some kind of (skype?) chat with int'l H+ fellas. do you have experience with this (I guess so) and can gibe some advice? | 11:15 |
| jk4930 | problem is that it's difficult to motive people to participate | 11:16 |
| @kanzure | hi jk4930 | 11:35 |
| jk4930 | hi kanzure | 11:36 |
| @kanzure | are you asking for my skype id? | 11:36 |
| jk4930 | no | 11:36 |
| jk4930 | mom | 11:36 |
| @kanzure | are you asking for a list of skype ids? | 11:36 |
| jk4930 | we have someone who likes to bring H+ers together via regular chats (e.g., Skype) | 11:37 |
| @kanzure | i'm just confused | 11:37 |
| jk4930 | the handful of German transhumanists are a bit lazy wrt chatting and he wants to open the pool to more people | 11:37 |
| @kanzure | have you talked with eugen leitl? | 11:37 |
| jk4930 | not yet | 11:38 |
| @kanzure | yeah you should do that.. | 11:38 |
| jk4930 | eugen's advice is to use openqwak (or so) | 11:38 |
| @kanzure | that's lame | 11:38 |
| @kanzure | ignore that | 11:38 |
| jk4930 | the other was teleplace | 11:39 |
| @kanzure | meh | 11:39 |
| jk4930 | :) | 11:39 |
| @kanzure | that's horrible | 11:39 |
| @kanzure | why is he recommending those things | 11:39 |
| @kanzure | is he paid by giulio? | 11:39 |
| jk4930 | the problem is not so much about tech, it's about bringing people (H+ers) together | 11:39 |
| @kanzure | well, the h+ brand is completely worthless so i can see why.. | 11:39 |
| jk4930 | we tried to revive the chat in Germany, but there are only a handful of people active, thus not much response | 11:40 |
| @kanzure | you could weasel off of some more active community or irc channel, | 11:40 |
| jk4930 | he wants to open the pool so the chances are higher that people are willing to chat | 11:40 |
| @kanzure | until there's a substantial german faction | 11:40 |
| @kanzure | the reality is, bootstrapping a chatroom takes years | 11:41 |
| jk4930 | yeah | 11:41 |
| @kanzure | this is the only remaining transhumanist irc channel | 11:41 |
| jk4930 | what about the wta-talk mailinglist? i remember that there were some people who were willing to chat | 11:41 |
| @kanzure | and it rarely has ~80 people | 11:41 |
| @kanzure | they killed off wta-talk | 11:41 |
| jk4930 | do you know why? | 11:42 |
| @kanzure | technical incompetence | 11:42 |
| jk4930 | :) | 11:42 |
| @kanzure | also they didn't really seem to care, either | 11:42 |
| @kanzure | so nobody fixed it | 11:42 |
| jk4930 | the thing prevalent in today's H+ community :( | 11:42 |
| @kanzure | jk4930: well, you can hang out in here and direct german transhumanists into this channel | 11:43 |
| @kanzure | and then when there's 4 or 5 regular german-speaking chatters, break off into a separate channel | 11:43 |
| jk4930 | that's why i'm currently doing... :D | 11:43 |
| @kanzure | but imagine just one guy shows up- and nobody's around- | 11:43 |
| jk4930 | why -> what | 11:43 |
| @kanzure | he'll probably leave.. | 11:43 |
| @kanzure | well, i'd be happy to offer links to tutorials for your german-speaking transhumanati to connect to irc | 11:43 |
| jk4930 | thanks, I think i can do that for them | 11:44 |
| jk4930 | is it okay when this guy mentioned above sends you an email? he wants to push this H+ networking forward and is very interested in your experience and advice | 11:46 |
| jk4930 | his name is christoph | 11:46 |
| @kanzure | that's fine. | 11:46 |
| jk4930 | many thanks from me | 11:46 |
| jk4930 | do you have any position at H+ at this time? i remember the gada prize and tech advice | 11:47 |
| @kanzure | nope, i'm no longer associated with them | 11:49 |
| jk4930 | wow, you're still listed as director of R&D on their website | 11:50 |
| @kanzure | it's worse than that | 11:52 |
| @kanzure | :/ | 11:52 |
| jk4930 | -v | 11:52 |
| jk4930 | could you give some explanation? (since I'm new vice chair of the German Transhumanist Assoc. I'm very interested in what's going on with our "mother organization") | 11:54 |
| @kanzure | umm haha | 11:55 |
| @kanzure | yes i could | 11:55 |
| jk4930 | but you don't want... :) | 11:56 |
| @kanzure | sure i do.. | 11:56 |
| @kanzure | it's just a lot to say | 11:56 |
| @kanzure | what is gta's goals? | 11:56 |
| @kanzure | *what are | 11:56 |
| jk4930 | i've a parallel chat running (important), are you available in 2 hrs? otherwise i send you a mail | 11:58 |
| @kanzure | yep i'm around in 2 hours | 11:59 |
| jk4930 | okay, cu then | 12:06 |
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| @kanzure | "Held a one-week Rationality Minicamp and a ten-week Rationality Boot Camp" | 13:11 |
| @kanzure | um.. | 13:11 |
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| @kanzure | hi omegacfx | 13:31 |
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| omegacfx | hi | 13:32 |
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| @kanzure | hi jk4930 | 14:29 |
| @kanzure | oh wait | 14:29 |
| @kanzure | biocurious in wsj http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204124204577150801888929704.html | 14:32 |
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| @kanzure | http://tequals0.wordpress.com/2011/12/18/diy-bio-postcards-bioluminescent-dinoflagellates-oh-my/ | 17:02 |
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| @kanzure | the blog name is horrible | 17:03 |
| @kanzure | "tequals0 the time is now" | 17:03 |
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| omegacfx | lol | 17:28 |
| @kanzure | jmil: is your advisor the one that's on tv all the time | 17:29 |
| omegacfx | what is this blog about | 17:33 |
| omegacfx | it looks like a grad students biology blog or something | 17:34 |
| @kanzure | probably | 17:34 |
| omegacfx | ive started so many blogs and never wrote more than two entries | 17:35 |
| omegacfx | maybe this new one will stick | 17:37 |
| jmil | kanzure: dunno which guy you mean, but naw my advisor is not on the news a lot | 17:54 |
| jmil | are you talking about tony a tala? | 17:55 |
| jmil | atala | 17:55 |
| @kanzure | maybe, | 17:55 |
| @kanzure | he's from pitt and talks about tissue printing a lot | 17:56 |
| @kanzure | (on the news) | 17:56 |
| @kanzure | the m-something-something foundation :p | 17:59 |
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| JayDugger | Good evening, everyone. | 19:05 |
| @kanzure | hi | 19:23 |
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| omegacfx | good evening | 20:53 |
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| omegacfx | ive been reading a lot of max more the past couple days | 20:56 |
| @kanzure | he used to live down the street from me, until he moved for alcor | 21:11 |
| Stee| | kanz, is that how you got into the movement? | 21:19 |
| Stee| | or did you move to where he was? | 21:19 |
| @kanzure | nope.. it was just a coincidence that he lived nearby | 21:23 |
| @kanzure | so i stalked him and he invited me to thanksgiving in 2006 or 2007 | 21:23 |
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| Stee| | that's cool | 21:31 |
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| omegacfx | orly? | 22:25 |
| omegacfx | I've been reading his introductory stuff on transhumanism and extropianism and vomiting it back up into a blog, more of a learning thing for me I guess | 22:26 |
| @kanzure | omegacfx: it's good philosophy in my opinion, | 22:27 |
| @kanzure | but i have always been a little disappointed in his execution of it | 22:28 |
| @kanzure | extropianism has been around since the 80s, 30 years is a long time to develop a lot of very particular skills for advancing transhumanism | 22:28 |
| omegacfx | I've been reading mostly stuff from here: http://www.aleph.se/Trans/Cultural/Philosophy/index-2.html#general | 22:29 |
| omegacfx | and I've browsed the humanity+ website, but haven't explored too much | 22:29 |
| @kanzure | i wouldn't recommend the humanity+ site.. sorry | 22:29 |
| @kanzure | what are you looking for? | 22:29 |
| omegacfx | well, my understanding so far is very basic, I've read Max More's On Becoming Posthuman and about the five principles of extropianism, so thats all I really know at this point. | 22:30 |
| @kanzure | ah, you should read his stuff on the proactionary principle | 22:31 |
| omegacfx | aside from reading fictional works that talk brush on it, like william gibson | 22:31 |
| omegacfx | ok | 22:31 |
| omegacfx | do you like stoic philosophy? | 22:34 |
| @kanzure | possibly | 22:35 |
| omegacfx | I need to read more | 22:42 |
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