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| strangewarp | [14:14] <poptire> saw a blue pontiac going down s. 1st today with the plates TRNSHMN | 07:12 |
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| strangewarp | the Train Shaman? I love that guy! | 07:12 |
| strangewarp | RE last night's convo: lately, black metal has had the same focusing effect on me that trance music had when I was a teen. But I'm trying to become a professional musician so my tastes may have become weird | 07:19 |
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| delinquentme | OMGHAI | 07:22 |
| strangewarp | lolsz haey | 07:22 |
| delinquentme | ^_^ | 07:23 |
| delinquentme | feeling kick ass today | 07:23 |
| strangewarp | sweet :o | 07:23 |
| delinquentme | just found out about a way to break JS validation on websites :P | 07:24 |
| delinquentme | apparently its as easy as deactivating JS on a web ppage to bypass any JS based form validation | 07:24 |
| delinquentme | (SO GOOD) | 07:24 |
| archels | You don't say. | 07:25 |
| delinquentme | i do! | 07:26 |
| delinquentme | i feel powerful | 07:26 |
| delinquentme | lolol | 07:26 |
| delinquentme | and slightly evil | 07:26 |
| fenn | or you could just use the js console.. | 07:28 |
| delinquentme | fenn, yeah I remember trying that before but the script was telling me my inputs were bad | 07:29 |
| delinquentme | I was futzing with this one python testing website which gives out $$ for correct answers | 07:30 |
| delinquentme | so I was basically trying to shoot it some bad strings to have it be like " YEW WAN HAxx()r" | 07:30 |
| delinquentme | `'" | 07:30 |
| delinquentme | etc | 07:30 |
| delinquentme | i was actually able to break it a few times and got a 500 from it .. but i wasnt sure where to go from there | 07:31 |
| fenn | kanzure: jrayhawk: any idea why fennetic.net disappeared? (i dont see it in sites-enabled, or anywhere else for that matter) | 07:31 |
| delinquentme | was basically the case where the data was properly formed but was content-less | 07:31 |
| fenn | gah now it's back. or something. *grumble* | 07:56 |
| delinquentme | LOVE IT | 08:12 |
| delinquentme | joyful yet brutal | 08:12 |
| delinquentme | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMJGy3v7T4M | 08:13 |
| delinquentme | so technical bu SUPPPER major-ey sounding and just brutal as hell | 08:13 |
| delinquentme | palm mutes and stops are the sexness | 08:13 |
| Lucas__ | `by the gods | 08:13 |
| Lucas__ | I never could have imagined that someone here listens to similar music to me | 08:14 |
| Lucas__ | have you ever listened to TesseracT, <delinquentme>? | 08:16 |
| delinquentme | Lucas__, #noHomo but i feel a brodown coming on | 08:16 |
| delinquentme | name is familiar | 08:16 |
| delinquentme | got a youtube link for me? | 08:16 |
| delinquentme | im sitting here buzzing on caffeine w pretty girls walkking about listening to mejjjal #goodAssTimes | 08:17 |
| Lucas__ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ims89OiP1Ro | 08:17 |
| Lucas__ | transhumanists that listen to djent | 08:17 |
| Lucas__ | I thought I was the only one | 08:18 |
| delinquentme | Lucas__, righteous anger is a lovely thing | 08:18 |
| delinquentme | and MAN does it feel good to dig down and let a little bit of that fury seep out | 08:19 |
| delinquentme | R.A.W.R. | 08:19 |
| delinquentme | Lucas__, do you play anything? I've been meaning to work on the screams man.. that false vocal chord shit | 08:19 |
| delinquentme | <3 | 08:19 |
| Lucas__ | I really like ambient djent. It is excellent for training parkour or martial arts | 08:19 |
| delinquentme | ambient djent?? | 08:20 |
| delinquentme | moar links? | 08:20 |
| Lucas__ | it is basically stuff like TesseracT, but here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cEU2kj68Is | 08:20 |
| Lucas__ | I want to have this on the first parkour video I put out | 08:21 |
| delinquentme | alright running the tesseract | 08:22 |
| delinquentme | 9 minute song! | 08:22 |
| delinquentme | hot. | 08:22 |
| * delinquentme drooling all over self | 08:23 | |
| * delinquentme wipes that shit up | 08:23 | |
| Lucas__ | yup | 08:24 |
| delinquentme | Lucas__, I donno about the singer | 08:25 |
| delinquentme | reminds me a little of rhapsody | 08:25 |
| delinquentme | or DT | 08:25 |
| delinquentme | mannn fuck fate! | 08:26 |
| delinquentme | YEH! | 08:26 |
| Lucas__ | I prefer that to harsh lyrics - everyone does it. And the way he is fadded into the song kinda turns his voice into an instrument | 08:26 |
| Lucas__ | I like it | 08:26 |
| delinquentme | oh the mastering on it is brilliant | 08:26 |
| delinquentme | and its really working as a cohesive unit | 08:26 |
| delinquentme | timings are amazing as well | 08:26 |
| delinquentme | reminiscent of ..... | 08:26 |
| delinquentme | who are those.. MESSUGAH | 08:26 |
| delinquentme | crazy ass swedes | 08:26 |
| delinquentme | black dhalia murder has my fav single right now w "deathmask divine" | 08:27 |
| delinquentme | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgxAaCjsYq0 | 08:28 |
| delinquentme | OH MAN CAFFEINE AND METAL IM GETTING THE SHAKES ####MANIC | 08:28 |
| delinquentme | <3 | 08:28 |
| Lucas__ | good to find another metal fan | 08:30 |
| delinquentme | ^^^^ | 08:40 |
| delinquentme | whatever gets you motivated | 08:41 |
| strangewarp | Not really a Black Dahlia Murder fan, myself | 08:46 |
| strangewarp | Been listening to metal bands like Septic Flesh a lot lately: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlom58cdyzs | 08:46 |
| strangewarp | Basically I've found a reliable reviewer on metal-archives with decent tastes (autothrall), and I take a look at anything he gives a decent review. It's been working pretty well so far | 08:48 |
| delinquentme | good process ^^ | 08:48 |
| delinquentme | .. that annoying thing when you open a new tab on youtube in chrome and it begins to blink like mad | 08:49 |
| delinquentme | too much google vertical integration!!! | 08:49 |
| strangewarp | haha | 08:49 |
| delinquentme | BDM has the craziest shrill screamer | 08:50 |
| delinquentme | love that shit | 08:50 |
| delinquentme | REMOVAL OF THE EYES GIVES MY HEART A SUDDEN CHILL ! I PRESERVE THEM IN FORMALDEHYDE TO GAZE UPON AT WILL! | 08:51 |
| delinquentme | madness. | 08:51 |
| strangewarp | Solefald did some fucking brutal shrill screams on The Linear Scaffold. Very front-and-center on that album. They're an avant-garde black metal band with interesting songwriting.. | 08:51 |
| Lucas__ | I swear I am going to play these songs when I get my implants | 08:52 |
| strangewarp | Taake does them too, and he's pretty rad | 08:52 |
| strangewarp | .. oh, just realized that video cuts out prematurely. fffffuuuuu youtube... | 08:52 |
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| delinquentme | ppl actually play this shit with human arms | 08:55 |
| delinquentme | lol | 08:55 |
| delinquentme | yeah | 08:55 |
| delinquentme | ppl rock | 08:55 |
| strangewarp | I'm working on an electronic setup that will let me play metal with some degree of live improvisation, and all the synthesis is analog or digital-analog. Had to write a custom sequencer.. and I'm slacking again on the programming front, arr | 08:56 |
| strangewarp | this being, er, MIDI sequencing, not gene sequencing :p [just remembered I'm in hplusroadmap] | 08:57 |
| eudoxia | so uh I'm reading the logs | 08:58 |
| eudoxia | are you high | 08:58 |
| strangewarp | oh god | 08:58 |
| strangewarp | no, just talkative about odd and tangential subjects, since that's where all my specialized knowledge is.. | 08:58 |
| strangewarp | Can't speak for delinquentme though :p | 09:00 |
| delinquentme | ~_~;;;;;;;;;;;;; | 09:01 |
| delinquentme | strangewarp, theres a program >> synth out there | 09:01 |
| delinquentme | that like you can write code to generate music | 09:02 |
| delinquentme | posted about it on FB a while back | 09:02 |
| delinquentme | if you wanna track it down " carl cardiac crott " | 09:02 |
| strangewarp | Oh, I know about those, DAWs and otherwise.. I just don't like VST synthesis, it paralyzes me with the infinite potential, and thereby turns arbitrary :p | 09:02 |
| strangewarp | same with samples | 09:03 |
| delinquentme | that shits powerful man | 09:03 |
| delinquentme | computers >>> taking over everaaah thang | 09:03 |
| delinquentme | literally you could setup a machine learning process to design and tweak an algo to generate music you like | 09:03 |
| delinquentme | run a SLA on that | 09:04 |
| strangewarp | I've got a system hacked together out of old electronics and Gameboys and homemade effects pedals, and it sounds surprisingly.. doom-metal. I've considered my process to be an alternative to the DAW methodology, I guess... | 09:05 |
| strangewarp | All run off a centralized MIDI-NOTE sequencer, which, now that I'm talking about it, I'm motivated to debug.. (had a coding marathon to finish it up at the start of the month, and there's one annoying bug left that I have to change things around to fix) | 09:06 |
| strangewarp | I am a bit concerned about the infinite potential of DAW music-creation environments leading to maximalist attitudes and arbitrary-sounding products.. | 09:07 |
| delinquentme | eudoxia, you wanna get caffeine manic too? | 09:10 |
| delinquentme | strangewarp, infinite possibility is sometimes overwhelming | 09:10 |
| delinquentme | but thats another crazy thing .. w pandora .. and myspace | 09:14 |
| delinquentme | like the music spreading thing is SOLVED | 09:14 |
| delinquentme | so like advertising your shit is useless | 09:15 |
| delinquentme | if you wanna make music you dont advertise .. you fucking get good | 09:15 |
| delinquentme | and people will find you | 09:15 |
| delinquentme | i guess thats a principle in any saturated field | 09:15 |
| delinquentme | wanna be a pro athlete? get good, and youll be found | 09:15 |
| strangewarp | I'll be doing some advertisement, once I've got some cohesive material, but it'll be coordinated advertisement to get the ball rolling | 09:16 |
| strangewarp | I live in Boulder, which is a bullshit town, so I'll probably need to prod things along | 09:16 |
| strangewarp | But yeah, so far as music goes, the superb bands seem to now range from "successful" to "becoming moderately successful", spare for the sad cases of bands that are amazing but very niche.. | 09:18 |
| strangewarp | (These, of course, being "successful" as seen by musicians, which means "I can pay for my own food and housing") | 09:18 |
| delinquentme | "ramen profitable" | 09:19 |
| strangewarp | ha, yes | 09:19 |
| strangewarp | Pandora is kind of.. blergh, actually | 09:23 |
| strangewarp | they require all bands to be signed to labels, and the legalese has some weird licensing stuff, from what I've heard | 09:24 |
| strangewarp | So, not very good for new bands. | 09:24 |
| kanzure | fenn: jrayhawk was messing with apache config a few weeks ago. maybe that was it? | 09:25 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: ping? | 09:25 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: got anything else like deathmask? | 09:39 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, you like that??? | 09:39 |
| kanzure | i'm a bit of a metal headd | 09:40 |
| delinquentme | what aspects are you looking for ... listening to miss may I right now .. they're hella hot | 09:40 |
| delinquentme | fuck rite! | 09:40 |
| delinquentme | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2KQ0FAOHsI&ob=av2n << #bestOfTheBes | 09:40 |
| delinquentme | t | 09:40 |
| klafka | instead of pandora there was an interesting site that used soundcloud tag clouds | 09:41 |
| delinquentme | AND BECOME A COLLOSUS OF MY OWWWWNnnn | 09:41 |
| delinquentme | pandora has retards working on anything other than jazz | 09:41 |
| delinquentme | I added one freaking song on my metal list and ended up getting RHCP | 09:41 |
| delinquentme | they need more granular shit .. and they need to analyze it on a deeper level than " double b ass drums and screaming" | 09:42 |
| kanzure | try turntable | 09:42 |
| kanzure | or echonest | 09:42 |
| delinquentme | its really crazy to me how people relate so much to ONLY those people they grew up with | 09:43 |
| delinquentme | maybe its just me bc im a child of the interwebs .. but damn man ... just bc they were your friends doesnt mean they need to continue to be your friends | 09:44 |
| delinquentme | define who you are! | 09:44 |
| kanzure | error not defined | 09:46 |
| strangewarp | Just listen to Septic Flesh. They are definitely the metal band's metal band :p | 10:02 |
| * strangewarp bias | 10:02 | |
| strangewarp | Though, stay away from "Revolution DNA". That album was a bad stab at nu-metal, before everyone realized that nu-metal was an awful manufactured trend that was usually musically boring. | 10:05 |
| klafka | delinquentme agreed | 10:05 |
| klafka | people who are friends because they've known the people | 10:06 |
| strangewarp | Nakamas tend to age into townies, yeah.. | 10:06 |
| delinquentme | guys have no excuse | 10:07 |
| * delinquentme bites tongue .. actually ill skip that sexist convo :D | 10:07 | |
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| delinquentme | kanzure, moar brutal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34FOKDqQN9s&ob=av2n | 10:19 |
| kanzure | a bit better | 10:20 |
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| kanzure | hah yeah i like it | 10:21 |
| kanzure | now, can you find me this in japanese | 10:24 |
| delinquentme | miss may I in japanese? | 10:26 |
| delinquentme | thats hella niche | 10:26 |
| kanzure | well, doesn't have to be miss may i | 10:26 |
| delinquentme | are you ever out in public and see chicks acting up w some dude and you just wanna smack em? | 10:26 |
| delinquentme | #trueStory | 10:26 |
| delinquentme | ohhh japanese metal | 10:26 |
| delinquentme | they're huge fans of the mag guitar over there :D | 10:26 |
| kanzure | there's a very specific set of behaviors that you can run to fix that situation: | 10:27 |
| kanzure | 1) go up to the guy, act like you know him | 10:27 |
| kanzure | "hey bro, it's been forever, how you doing?" | 10:27 |
| kanzure | "oh my god, is this your girl? WOW" | 10:27 |
| kanzure | then you somehow invite them to something nearby- a coffee shop, anything | 10:27 |
| kanzure | get her number | 10:27 |
| kanzure | start inviting her to things | 10:27 |
| Lucas__ | woah, Kanzure is a metal head as well? | 10:29 |
| Lucas__ | interesting times | 10:29 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, very good! | 10:29 |
| delinquentme | thats a hella work around | 10:29 |
| delinquentme | save if the dude plays along | 10:29 |
| delinquentme | but if you break to the part of pointing out her behavior fast enough | 10:30 |
| delinquentme | he might | 10:30 |
| kanzure | her behavior? huh? | 10:31 |
| kanzure | are you aiming to steal the chick or smack the chick | 10:31 |
| delinquentme | nah just point out that shes acting out | 10:36 |
| delinquentme | "keep that hoe in line" in a sociall acceptable manner | 10:36 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure, you'd be good @ pickup | 10:37 |
| delinquentme | thats some natural shit right there | 10:37 |
| * strangewarp rolling eyes | 10:38 | |
| delinquentme | =] | 10:43 |
| delinquentme | pickup is a funny thing | 10:43 |
| delinquentme | its like religion :D | 10:43 |
| delinquentme | oh and kanzure BDM - everything went black | 10:46 |
| delinquentme | dat dubbl bass | 10:46 |
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| klafka | well now we know delinquentme is a PUA | 11:10 |
| delinquentme | used to lol | 11:10 |
| delinquentme | relocate! | 11:19 |
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| ybit | internet is back! | 11:22 |
| ybit | Lucas__: thanks for linking to Vildhjarta's Traces | 11:28 |
| Lucas__ | np | 11:28 |
| ybit | at some point i was listening to Rammstein as background music since i couldn't understand what they are saying | 11:28 |
| ybit | i could probably get into vocal-free metal or more foreign metal i can't understand | 11:29 |
| * ybit listens to sun o))) | 11:31 | |
| kvltist | http://www25.uua.org/uuhs/duub/articles/johnmurrayspear.html <- tl;dr: insane guy who believed he was contacted by the spirits of benjamin franklin and alike who told him about electric thinking machines, global telepathic networks and improved sewing machines … constructed a mechanical messiah. (weird) | 11:36 |
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| kanzure | ybit: if you like rammstein, try e nomine (like e nomine - heilig) | 11:39 |
| kanzure | i mean, for the incomprehensible part | 11:39 |
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| delinquentme | yeap I only _THINK_ I know whats going on when I program | 11:41 |
| delinquentme | who all in here is in SF?? | 11:41 |
| delinquentme | anyone? | 11:41 |
| jrayhawk | fenn: RewriteRule ^(.+) /srv/www/%{SERVER_NAME}%{REQUEST_URI} in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/0000-default-new | 11:47 |
| jrayhawk | If you need fancier configuration, feel free to write a specific fennetic.net VirtualHost | 11:48 |
| jrayhawk | or bug me and I can get around to it. | 11:48 |
| delinquentme | klafka, where du live? | 11:48 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, you're in texas right? | 11:48 |
| kanzure | yes | 11:49 |
| ybit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trGkPerU3-k | 11:49 |
| kanzure | hi aristarchus | 11:49 |
| ybit | "Powerglove is a video game/speed metal band." | 11:49 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: i forget who's in sf at the moment. klafka is moving into that area.. | 11:49 |
| ybit | instrumental metal video game music... | 11:49 |
| aristarchus | hello | 11:49 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: saurik is in sf | 11:49 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: i think ziyadb | 11:50 |
| aristarchus | ybit: love powerglove haha | 11:50 |
| delinquentme | nice! | 11:50 |
| delinquentme | i might have found a job so :D | 11:50 |
| kanzure | yeah, you mentioned that, | 11:50 |
| kanzure | what job is it? | 11:50 |
| delinquentme | too early to tell but the guys seem really excited to have found me | 11:50 |
| kanzure | and why won't you let me pay you to do things | 11:50 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, we gotta diversify the income | 11:51 |
| delinquentme | its like all investments | 11:51 |
| delinquentme | this is all private investors sponsoring this company so its good stuff | 11:51 |
| delinquentme | 2.2m in funding so far | 11:51 |
| kanzure | what's the company? | 11:51 |
| delinquentme | but I gotta see what Pitt is gonna offer me | 11:51 |
| delinquentme | Counsyl | 11:51 |
| kanzure | ah nice | 11:52 |
| kanzure | gene counseling | 11:52 |
| delinquentme | they do baby testing | 11:52 |
| delinquentme | ya! | 11:52 |
| delinquentme | ill be in the perfect spot and working with all the right kinda of toys | 11:52 |
| delinquentme | should be sickness | 11:52 |
| kanzure | you know about surrogate pregnancies, right? | 11:52 |
| delinquentme | you mean about implanting them in a surrogate mother or the 3 way baby stuff | 11:52 |
| kanzure | surrogate mother | 11:53 |
| delinquentme | yeah | 11:53 |
| kanzure | i think patri friedman did this for his kid | 11:53 |
| delinquentme | oh thats cool | 11:53 |
| kanzure | isn't unreasonable to do some genetics work beforehand | 11:53 |
| kanzure | even simple stuff, like sequencing | 11:53 |
| kanzure | counsyl seems to be post-fertilization | 11:54 |
| klafka | kanzure i moved to sf | 12:03 |
| klafka | i've been here 2 weeks now | 12:03 |
| kanzure | where you at in sf? | 12:03 |
| klafka | inner richmond | 12:03 |
| klafka | on my friends couch | 12:04 |
| klafka | i really want to find a sublet for feb 1st | 12:04 |
| kanzure | my rent is up end of february in austin | 12:13 |
| kanzure | i'm thinking about moving to sf, but haven't put in the time yet | 12:13 |
| kanzure | *lease is up | 12:13 |
| klafka | aah | 12:16 |
| klafka | finding apts in sf SUCKS | 12:16 |
| kanzure | i'm an idiot | 12:16 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: fenn is in sf. | 12:16 |
| klafka | yeah | 12:16 |
| delinquentme | nice | 12:16 |
| klafka | has he decidd to respond to outside communications? | 12:17 |
| kanzure | yes | 12:17 |
| kanzure | he's on today, it seems | 12:17 |
| kanzure | his place might have some rooms open for new tenants | 12:17 |
| delinquentme | i plan on just doing the airbnb $20 / night place till I find a place to sleep | 12:17 |
| klafka | oh really? | 12:17 |
| klafka | fenn fenn | 12:17 |
| delinquentme | other nice thing about startups | 12:17 |
| klafka | ping me dammit | 12:17 |
| kanzure | klafka: i gave you his number.. | 12:17 |
| delinquentme | you can be like GIMMAH COUCH | 12:17 |
| klafka | delinquentme is your startup in sf or peninsula or valley | 12:18 |
| klafka | he never responded to me then either | 12:18 |
| klafka | :P | 12:18 |
| kanzure | you called? | 12:18 |
| delinquentme | it got the addy on their wubsite | 12:18 |
| klafka | i txt'd | 12:18 |
| klafka | i hate calling | 12:18 |
| kanzure | i don't know if he does texts | 12:18 |
| kanzure | ah, he does do texts | 12:18 |
| klafka | aah | 12:18 |
| kanzure | he was probably sleeping anyway | 12:18 |
| klafka | aah | 12:18 |
| klafka | possibly | 12:18 |
| klafka | but yeah idefo need a short term like 3-5 month sort of situation atm | 12:19 |
| kanzure | well, when i move up there, we can be homeless together | 12:19 |
| klafka | cool | 12:19 |
| klafka | sounds good | 12:19 |
| klafka | oh it's in redwood city | 12:20 |
| klafka | that's the stop before me on caltrain | 12:20 |
| kanzure | fenn is in sf, you'd have to do bart+caltrain | 12:21 |
| klafka | i know | 12:21 |
| klafka | i do muni + caltrain already | 12:22 |
| kanzure | klafka: you can also try asking around in #startups | 12:22 |
| klafka | idk are the people in startups INTENSELY STARTUP | 12:22 |
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| klafka | if you sort of understand me | 12:22 |
| kanzure | i don't understand you | 12:23 |
| kanzure | they are people in startups on irc. what's not to like? | 12:23 |
| delinquentme | dear JESUS | 12:23 |
| klafka | those people that are obsessed with being the next zuckerberg | 12:23 |
| kanzure | no | 12:23 |
| delinquentme | st. Ronald jenkees bring me patience | 12:23 |
| klafka | ok | 12:23 |
| delinquentme | klafka, who you working far? | 12:24 |
| klafka | badgeville | 12:24 |
| kanzure | badgebadgers | 12:24 |
| kanzure | oh | 12:24 |
| delinquentme | badgeville? | 12:24 |
| klafka | badgeville | 12:24 |
| klafka | http://www.badgeville.com/ | 12:24 |
| klafka | white label gamification platform | 12:25 |
| delinquentme | what did they say about your exp in bio? | 12:25 |
| klafka | i mean they were glad i was smart | 12:25 |
| klafka | but it wasn't really applicable | 12:25 |
| delinquentme | hmmm | 12:25 |
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| delinquentme | klafka, you should apply to halcyon :D | 12:27 |
| delinquentme | you do know they're looking for bioinformatics kids right? | 12:28 |
| kanzure | heh they rejected me | 12:28 |
| delinquentme | can you program in haskell? | 12:28 |
| klafka | no | 12:28 |
| eudoxia | their loss | 12:28 |
| kanzure | i don't really think they have a plan | 12:28 |
| kanzure | "sell microscopes" meh | 12:28 |
| klafka | http://www.halcyonbioconsulting.com/ this company? | 12:28 |
| kanzure | or "sequence lots of genomes and then maybe this will magically turn into longevity" | 12:28 |
| klafka | no | 12:28 |
| eudoxia | is Halcyon that company that is "secretly an uploading company" | 12:28 |
| kanzure | halcyon molecular | 12:28 |
| kanzure | eudoxia: not really; they hired an uploader person, if that's what you mean | 12:29 |
| klafka | delinquentme i wasn't terribly interested in bioinformatics companies | 12:29 |
| klafka | frankly | 12:29 |
| delinquentme | http://halcyonmolecular.com/ | 12:29 |
| delinquentme | O_o;; | 12:29 |
| kanzure | in terms of dna sequencing itself, maybe you should do pacbio if anything | 12:29 |
| delinquentme | whut | 12:29 |
| delinquentme | klafka, y? | 12:29 |
| klafka | kanzure i would love to | 12:29 |
| kanzure | i'm not entirely convinced they are going to win the sequencing race | 12:29 |
| klafka | pacbo? | 12:29 |
| klafka | :( | 12:29 |
| klafka | don't say that | 12:29 |
| klafka | i bought stock in them | 12:29 |
| kanzure | halcyon? | 12:29 |
| delinquentme | pacbo is in deep legal | 12:29 |
| klafka | oh really? | 12:30 |
| klafka | over what? | 12:30 |
| delinquentme | klafka, you know the replaced the CEO | 12:30 |
| klafka | oh wow | 12:30 |
| klafka | why? | 12:30 |
| delinquentme | accuracy percentages in their reads | 12:30 |
| klafka | no i haven't been following | 12:30 |
| klafka | uggh | 12:30 |
| delinquentme | its at like 80 ... and they claimed 99+ | 12:30 |
| delinquentme | they're still fighting though | 12:30 |
| delinquentme | keep an eye on schadt though | 12:31 |
| delinquentme | their ex CSO | 12:31 |
| delinquentme | or something | 12:31 |
| delinquentme | hes deep in mt sainai stuff | 12:31 |
| delinquentme | so thats hella hopeful bc all the big pockets up in NY are interested in bio | 12:31 |
| delinquentme | they got $$ to make it happen ... we just gotta push ahead w the science | 12:31 |
| klafka | aah | 12:31 |
| delinquentme | which is why klafka you should be @ halcyon | 12:31 |
| delinquentme | instead of gamifying :D | 12:32 |
| klafka | oh schadt left too? | 12:32 |
| kanzure | again, what's halcyon's actual plan | 12:32 |
| klafka | damn | 12:32 |
| kanzure | have you talked with them deliquentme? | 12:32 |
| delinquentme | schadt got a killer contract and is still on as an advisor | 12:32 |
| ziyadb | kanzure: hello! | 12:32 |
| klafka | aah | 12:32 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, i wouldn't worry about halcyon | 12:32 |
| kanzure | erm | 12:32 |
| delinquentme | they've got their shit together | 12:32 |
| kanzure | um | 12:32 |
| kanzure | well, after talking with them, i'm not convinced of that | 12:32 |
| klafka | lol | 12:32 |
| kanzure | maybe they told you different things? | 12:32 |
| delinquentme | speaking frankly when your backup plan is electron microscopes | 12:33 |
| delinquentme | yeah | 12:33 |
| kanzure | that's what they told me. | 12:33 |
| delinquentme | thats awesome IMO | 12:33 |
| kanzure | they also said that their approach to longevity is "sequence everything and get medical records and hopefully do lots of data mining magic" | 12:33 |
| kanzure | maybe they told you something different? | 12:33 |
| delinquentme | they're approaching longevity from a traction standpoint | 12:33 |
| delinquentme | look at it as a startup | 12:34 |
| kanzure | ? | 12:34 |
| delinquentme | albeit one of the biggest nastiest startups | 12:34 |
| delinquentme | traction = $$$ | 12:34 |
| delinquentme | $$$ = survival | 12:34 |
| kanzure | traction in what ? | 12:34 |
| delinquentme | customers | 12:34 |
| kanzure | customers buying microscopes? | 12:34 |
| delinquentme | sequencing by electron microscopy ( when they get it working ) | 12:34 |
| delinquentme | will be HUGE | 12:34 |
| kanzure | ok, so they want sequencing traction because..? | 12:35 |
| delinquentme | more funding | 12:35 |
| kanzure | i mean, there's already a race to the bottom on sequencing | 12:35 |
| kanzure | they can rely on that pretty well | 12:35 |
| kanzure | so i don't know why they are treating that as a problem towards longevity | 12:35 |
| delinquentme | but the difference is the read lengths | 12:35 |
| delinquentme | everyone right now | 12:35 |
| kanzure | i'm not convinced that this is a reliable plan for longevity, sorry | 12:35 |
| delinquentme | is fucking around with "how long can we feed DNA through micropores" | 12:36 |
| klafka | oh i may have found a potential place | 12:36 |
| delinquentme | no its a reliable plan for longevity bc they're the closest startup to making $_$ and they've got a stated interest in it | 12:36 |
| kanzure | klafka: if not, you should just do the airbnb thing like delinquentme is doing | 12:36 |
| klafka | kanzure i'm just crashing with my friend | 12:36 |
| delinquentme | halcyon says fuck all that ghetto molecular clogging | 12:36 |
| klafka | rather do that than airbnb | 12:36 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: just because they claim to have an interest in it, doesn't mean their strategy is smart | 12:36 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, but they're closer than anyone | 12:37 |
| kanzure | because they have money? | 12:37 |
| delinquentme | no! | 12:37 |
| klafka | do they/ | 12:37 |
| delinquentme | because their technology is SO SO SO close to hitting | 12:37 |
| kanzure | they have maybe 10mil left iirc | 12:37 |
| delinquentme | they're also undersigned by the wildest minds in SF | 12:37 |
| delinquentme | as I said so long as they're making progress I dont think we have to worry about those guys :D | 12:38 |
| kanzure | so their closer to longevity than anyone, is your claim? | 12:38 |
| delinquentme | no | 12:38 |
| kanzure | i'm not trying to be thickheaded; i think they we need companies going after longevity | 12:38 |
| kanzure | but they also need strategy | 12:39 |
| delinquentme | they are the <del>closest</del> only startup nearing profitability w a longevity statement | 12:39 |
| delinquentme | which they have! | 12:39 |
| kanzure | "longevity statement" ain't a longevity strategy | 12:39 |
| delinquentme | no the current longevity strat is " get money to pursue it " | 12:39 |
| delinquentme | which is REAL | 12:39 |
| delinquentme | its more traction than what anyone else has | 12:39 |
| klafka | LOL | 12:39 |
| klafka | oh right | 12:39 |
| kanzure | "get money to <do x> where we don't know what x is" | 12:39 |
| eudoxia | kanz you are not satisfied with anything | 12:40 |
| kanzure | eudoxia: i'm satisfied by many things, just not these answers | 12:40 |
| klafka | oh you guys are talking about a strategy for life extension | 12:40 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, is there anyone closer | 12:40 |
| klafka | not a business strategy | 12:40 |
| delinquentme | ill put it this way | 12:40 |
| kanzure | klafka: yes! | 12:40 |
| klafka | heh | 12:40 |
| delinquentme | theres TONS of legit scientists out there .... and when ppl put money there the mouth is | 12:40 |
| delinquentme | you can follow the cash to the best bets | 12:40 |
| kanzure | like maybe they're testing some gene therapies to extend stem cell niche renewal; that would make sense to me | 12:40 |
| klafka | ... | 12:40 |
| delinquentme | klafka, both | 12:41 |
| delinquentme | they're overlapping | 12:41 |
| klafka | delinquentme i think that atm there is foundational research that hasn't been done to find an actionable plan to real life extension | 12:41 |
| delinquentme | im saying that the longevity strat for halcyon is the fact that they're interested and theyre poised to survive | 12:41 |
| kanzure | klafka: ehh i think there has been, actually | 12:41 |
| klafka | oh? | 12:41 |
| kanzure | klafka: but it's not necessarily SENS | 12:41 |
| kanzure | there's tons of work that has been done | 12:41 |
| klafka | kanzure are you talking about like CR ? | 12:41 |
| kanzure | no not CR :) | 12:41 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/longevity/ | 12:41 |
| delinquentme | nuclear cell comatri transfer + synthetic DNA | 12:42 |
| klafka | delinquentme so you're saying their strategy is 'we must do it because otherwise we'll go out of business and we want to do it' | 12:42 |
| kanzure | there's lots of theories for sure, but "sequence everything" isn't going to help you test them | 12:42 |
| delinquentme | you've got replaceable organs | 12:42 |
| delinquentme | somatic cell nuclear transfer** | 12:42 |
| klafka | delinquentme i think you're so so so so underestimating the difficulties involved | 12:42 |
| delinquentme | klafka, i know I am .. however. | 12:42 |
| kanzure | deliquentme is correct that money can help solve the difficulties | 12:42 |
| klafka | kanzure it's true it can but generally you have to start with an IDEA | 12:43 |
| delinquentme | if you can make a business work that is street cred to say " im not going to lose the money you invest" | 12:43 |
| klafka | before the money is useful | 12:43 |
| kanzure | their idea is sequencing | 12:43 |
| kanzure | so this is why i am not convinced of their strategy. | 12:43 |
| delinquentme | nononon | 12:43 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, | 12:43 |
| delinquentme | their idea is NOT | 12:43 |
| delinquentme | sequencing | 12:43 |
| kanzure | ok? | 12:43 |
| delinquentme | their VESSEL | 12:43 |
| klafka | then what is their idea? | 12:43 |
| delinquentme | is sequencing | 12:43 |
| delinquentme | their METHOD | 12:43 |
| delinquentme | survive and gather up good talent | 12:43 |
| kanzure | heh | 12:43 |
| kanzure | we're doomed | 12:43 |
| delinquentme | thats all ive got to say about it | 12:43 |
| klafka | that's not an idea | 12:43 |
| delinquentme | klafka, kanzure its better than what anyone else has got | 12:44 |
| delinquentme | so thats why im sticking w those kids | 12:44 |
| klafka | if i have an understanding of hwat it takes to make a unicorn | 12:44 |
| delinquentme | kk back to work | 12:44 |
| klafka | it doesn't mean my unicorn making idea is feasible | 12:44 |
| delinquentme | klafka, | 12:44 |
| delinquentme | im not talking about are they going to fix death | 12:44 |
| delinquentme | no | 12:44 |
| delinquentme | im saying | 12:44 |
| delinquentme | if anyone will they're in a good position to | 12:45 |
| delinquentme | while yes I understand that you want a biology roadmap | 12:45 |
| klafka | so you're saying they will be in a good position to because their sequencing business will succeed and they'll have cash reserves to research longevity | 12:45 |
| klafka | ? | 12:45 |
| delinquentme | this venture gets the cash in the right place | 12:45 |
| delinquentme | PLUS | 12:45 |
| delinquentme | brilliant scientists on staff | 12:45 |
| kanzure | so if i give them an aging roadmap, will they listen to me and fund me | 12:46 |
| delinquentme | they're not profitable yet | 12:46 |
| kanzure | i mean, they have enough funding already to go after a lot of aging roadmap milestones | 12:46 |
| delinquentme | post profitability maybe | 12:46 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, but you dont do exploratory research on investment money | 12:46 |
| delinquentme | you get profitable | 12:46 |
| delinquentme | THEN you do that | 12:46 |
| delinquentme | sorry it all seems like startup 101 to me | 12:47 |
| kanzure | so basically, wait-and-hope-they-do-something-relevant | 12:47 |
| delinquentme | and it seems to me they're doing it the right way | 12:47 |
| kanzure | (other than fundraising and hiring) | 12:47 |
| kanzure | no, but i'm glad we've talked about this, | 12:47 |
| kanzure | i thought you might have known something else | 12:47 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, basically wait and hope that the biggest baddest player out there will make good on some of the claims they've made | 12:47 |
| delinquentme | yes. | 12:47 |
| kanzure | like "No, they're actually uploading mice at the moment" | 12:47 |
| kanzure | or rather, "they are uploading worm brain" | 12:47 |
| klafka | delinquentme i mean sure i can wait and hope | 12:47 |
| delinquentme | they're not blue brain :D | 12:47 |
| klafka | that takes no investment on my part | 12:48 |
| kanzure | klafka: hah | 12:48 |
| delinquentme | klafka, stop ycombinatoring it | 12:48 |
| delinquentme | :D | 12:48 |
| delinquentme | you know thats going to help | 12:48 |
| kanzure | yeh, we do need ycombinator of futurist tech | 12:48 |
| klafka | haha | 12:48 |
| delinquentme | we need a ycombinator of " 1/ farmville " | 12:48 |
| delinquentme | ycomb is the zynga of progress | 12:49 |
| delinquentme | like OK | 12:49 |
| klafka | why? | 12:49 |
| delinquentme | there are a few good ones | 12:49 |
| klafka | ycomb is just some seed funding | 12:49 |
| klafka | or do you mean their startups in general? | 12:49 |
| delinquentme | science exchange is bad ass | 12:49 |
| klafka | or are you talking about the forum? | 12:49 |
| delinquentme | klafka, i mean lets stop playing around on the web like its an ends | 12:49 |
| klafka | 0h | 12:49 |
| klafka | yeah | 12:49 |
| klafka | totally | 12:49 |
| delinquentme | web = tool | 12:50 |
| delinquentme | web = hot way for data transfer | 12:50 |
| klafka | well | 12:50 |
| delinquentme | and sure sure money is a tool | 12:50 |
| klafka | no | 12:50 |
| klafka | i mean it's an ends and it's a tool | 12:50 |
| delinquentme | true | 12:50 |
| klafka | but i agree with you | 12:50 |
| delinquentme | but there are greater societal returns if we DO REAL SHIT | 12:50 |
| klafka | there is a lot of hollowness to it | 12:50 |
| delinquentme | zynga | 12:50 |
| klafka | absolutely | 12:50 |
| delinquentme | isnt real shit | 12:50 |
| klafka | agreed | 12:50 |
| delinquentme | its $$$ | 12:50 |
| delinquentme | if we had a hardware incubator with the $$$ of zynga | 12:51 |
| delinquentme | eff. | 12:51 |
| delinquentme | or even better a bio hardware | 12:51 |
| delinquentme | fuck. | 12:51 |
| klafka | you can't really do incubation on biotech so much though delinquentme | 12:51 |
| kanzure | i'm not sure "consumer hardware" is a reasonable approach to what we're doing, | 12:51 |
| delinquentme | see the thing is that " we dont want to die" is SOO fucking radical | 12:51 |
| klafka | it's gotta be substantial investment from day one | 12:51 |
| kanzure | what? biotech incubators are all over the place | 12:51 |
| kanzure | there's tons and tons of biotech incubators | 12:51 |
| delinquentme | klafka, false | 12:51 |
| klafka | kanzure but are they giving them like 80k ? or something like ycomb does | 12:51 |
| delinquentme | thats changing | 12:51 |
| kanzure | klafka: ycomb gives $175k, what's your point? | 12:52 |
| klafka | biotech needs a significant investment | 12:52 |
| delinquentme | you can make a software biotech | 12:52 |
| klafka | oh god | 12:52 |
| klafka | bioinfo startups | 12:52 |
| kanzure | hah | 12:52 |
| delinquentme | klafka, tell me you cant | 12:52 |
| klafka | of course you fucking can | 12:52 |
| klafka | but i thought we were talking about societal returns | 12:52 |
| klafka | :) | 12:52 |
| delinquentme | DNAnexus | 12:52 |
| delinquentme | @_@ | 12:52 |
| kanzure | part of the reason you don't see more pharma startups is all the legal issues | 12:52 |
| klafka | not web as a tool | 12:52 |
| delinquentme | wait wait wait | 12:52 |
| delinquentme | you're a bioinformaticist and saying that THAT study cant bring concrete societal returns? | 12:52 |
| delinquentme | like were you drunk your entire schooling? | 12:53 |
| klafka | note I don't do bioinformatics much anymore? :) | 12:53 |
| klafka | also to be fair I should clarify | 12:53 |
| klafka | you can get societal returns in bioinformatics | 12:53 |
| delinquentme | i would have guessed that you'd be the number 1 dude on that bandwagon? | 12:53 |
| klafka | but there are waaay more people blowing smoke up people's ass | 12:53 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: are we takling about customers giving you money? or biotech VC? | 12:53 |
| klafka | about CLOUD and BIG DATA | 12:53 |
| klafka | and DRUG DISCOVERY | 12:53 |
| klafka | and it's all shit | 12:53 |
| delinquentme | klafka, awesome you're in the perfect position to think about that | 12:53 |
| klafka | a lot of bioinfo is shit | 12:54 |
| delinquentme | you need to get into the theil circle and be an advisor | 12:54 |
| klafka | i mean i'm not leaving my job unless something bad happens for min a year | 12:54 |
| klafka | i don't want to job jump every 6 months | 12:54 |
| delinquentme | true true | 12:54 |
| klafka | I'll look at other things | 12:54 |
| klafka | i looked at cool bioinfo stuff | 12:54 |
| klafka | but frankly i am doing support engineering | 12:55 |
| delinquentme | like i mentioned to someone else its also a solid diversification of funds into ppl who are interested in the right things | 12:55 |
| delinquentme | so yeah Im just glad you're in SF | 12:55 |
| klafka | i'm going to get into analytics at my company though | 12:55 |
| kanzure | support.. engineering | 12:55 |
| klafka | probably | 12:55 |
| klafka | right | 12:55 |
| klafka | :P | 12:55 |
| kanzure | gah, api integration? | 12:55 |
| klafka | tech support | 12:55 |
| klafka | yep | 12:55 |
| kanzure | sdk support stuff? | 12:55 |
| klafka | hahaha | 12:55 |
| kanzure | good god man | 12:55 |
| kanzure | what did they offer, like 60k? | 12:55 |
| klafka | no more than that | 12:55 |
| kanzure | 80k? | 12:55 |
| klafka | somewhere in the middle | 12:55 |
| kanzure | :/ you coulda got much more | 12:55 |
| klafka | anyway i wasn't going to get a dev job | 12:55 |
| delinquentme | klafka, im moving in | 12:55 |
| delinquentme | ima share ur bunk | 12:56 |
| klafka | kanzure as what? | 12:56 |
| klafka | dev? | 12:56 |
| klafka | analytics? | 12:56 |
| kanzure | development | 12:56 |
| klafka | i am not comfortable doing dev | 12:56 |
| klafka | and i don't erally want to do dev | 12:56 |
| kanzure | o.o | 12:56 |
| klafka | hahaha | 12:56 |
| klafka | i like analytics man | 12:56 |
| klafka | or i like ML/analytics | 12:56 |
| klafka | but i have no job exp in it and i don't have a phd | 12:56 |
| klafka | this is my way to get job exp as that | 12:57 |
| klafka | and also i enjoy support | 12:57 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: you know anyone who wants to dump money into a dna synthesis, microfluidics outfit? | 12:57 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, pitch to fluidigm | 12:58 |
| delinquentme | and actually microsoft has invested in a dude whos a microfluidics guy | 12:59 |
| delinquentme | lookup biocoder | 12:59 |
| delinquentme | willian thies | 12:59 |
| delinquentme | william thies** | 12:59 |
| klafka | anyway kanzure i'm just happy to be out here | 13:01 |
| klafka | and not in rochester | 13:01 |
| klafka | and regardless if i could get more | 13:01 |
| klafka | i'm no longer making 14/hr | 13:01 |
| delinquentme | cheers to SF .. real money | 13:02 |
| delinquentme | and big fucking funding ops | 13:02 |
| kanzure | yes, i know about biocoder- but their api was really weird | 13:02 |
| klafka | man would a mother in law-ish room be ok | 13:06 |
| klafka | when people say 'mature' it makes me think old people and not like 30 | 13:09 |
| klafka | would you guys agree | 13:09 |
| delinquentme | mature = milfs | 13:10 |
| delinquentme | =] | 13:10 |
| delinquentme | tbh though its all relative | 13:10 |
| delinquentme | and i dont get why ppl are weirded out by me referring to them as 'kids' | 13:10 |
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| delinquentme | toodles all | 13:29 |
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| klafka | bai | 13:31 |
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| saurik | kanzure: I am actually much closer to la (santa barbara) | 13:46 |
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| fenn | speaking of hardware incubators, i know some people at http://lemnoslabs.com | 16:01 |
| fenn | they are practically next door | 16:02 |
| fenn | (and the name sounds a lot like langton labs doesn't it?) | 16:02 |
| * fenn goes off to poke at a cnc | 16:03 | |
| kanzure | "Something that can’t be built by a Ruby coder in a hack weekend. | 16:11 |
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| klafka | hah | 16:12 |
| kanzure | what's wrong with ruby coders | 16:12 |
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| delinquentme | WORD UP HOMIES | 18:41 |
| delinquentme | program works!! | 18:42 |
| kanzure | eh? | 18:52 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: so, why isn't aubrey being given commercial money for sens | 18:52 |
| kanzure | instead of all this non-profit pennies | 18:53 |
| delinquentme | you tell me | 18:53 |
| delinquentme | he doesnt yet have a commercially viable business model? | 18:53 |
| kanzure | neither does halcyon | 18:53 |
| delinquentme | but they're close | 18:53 |
| delinquentme | we all know people will pay for long read sequencing | 18:54 |
| delinquentme | we're talking reads @ lengths of hundreds of thousands of BPs | 18:54 |
| delinquentme | ill put it this say | 18:54 |
| kanzure | yes i know what they're aiming for | 18:54 |
| delinquentme | say = way | 18:54 |
| delinquentme | if they succeed algos will need to be re-written | 18:54 |
| delinquentme | bc all the statistical math magic we use noe | 18:54 |
| delinquentme | now* will be significantly less relevant | 18:55 |
| delinquentme | aubrey is visionary but halcyon has popsicles which everyone already wants | 18:55 |
| delinquentme | and i got turned down too doesn't mean I'm not helping .. .just means they're very niche | 18:56 |
| delinquentme | which is a good thing | 18:56 |
| delinquentme | and it also tells us people are being filtered on merit / compatibility | 18:56 |
| delinquentme | which is a good sign for that company | 18:57 |
| delinquentme | kent works his assssss off | 18:57 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, you any good w the maths? | 18:59 |
| kanzure | i can get around. | 18:59 |
| kanzure | i don't care about getting turned down, heh | 19:00 |
| kanzure | i told them that i wasn't confident they had a good vision | 19:00 |
| kanzure | *strategy | 19:00 |
| kanzure | not vision :x | 19:00 |
| delinquentme | the math is what i need to get on more of | 19:00 |
| delinquentme | though im a little confused as to what a bio and math heavy kid does in the space of large computation | 19:01 |
| delinquentme | like i'd guess there are TONS of these kids | 19:01 |
| kanzure | what are you asking? | 19:01 |
| delinquentme | but then why dont we have more programs like BLAST? | 19:01 |
| kanzure | there are tons of blast variants | 19:01 |
| kanzure | tons and tons | 19:01 |
| delinquentme | are there? | 19:01 |
| kanzure | klafkaaa where are you | 19:01 |
| delinquentme | so then thats what the math kids do | 19:01 |
| kanzure | the math kids do finance or something | 19:01 |
| delinquentme | they're working w established software and making tweaks? | 19:01 |
| delinquentme | lolol | 19:02 |
| delinquentme | yeah | 19:02 |
| delinquentme | useful stuff | 19:02 |
| kanzure | pblast, blastn, blastp, blastx, tblastn, tblastx, blast2, psi-blast | 19:02 |
| delinquentme | ive been considering getting gnast w maths | 19:03 |
| delinquentme | like web stuff is useful but what REALLY puts the shit down | 19:03 |
| kanzure | wublast | 19:03 |
| delinquentme | math, bio, applied sciences | 19:03 |
| delinquentme | dubstep aligner? | 19:04 |
| kanzure | gpublast | 19:04 |
| kanzure | i can't remember these | 19:04 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: the other complicating factor is lack of funding | 19:11 |
| kanzure | but if you can show me a source i should tap, let me know | 19:11 |
| kanzure | bbl | 19:11 |
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| delinquentme | there he is | 19:12 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, | 19:12 |
| delinquentme | there is NO lack of funding | 19:12 |
| delinquentme | none. | 19:12 |
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| delinquentme | there is a lack of real business models | 19:13 |
| delinquentme | people with cash WANT TO STAY here | 19:13 |
| delinquentme | thats one of the reasons I don't agree w the imminst take | 19:13 |
| klafka | ? | 19:13 |
| klafka | oh god longevity argument | 19:14 |
| delinquentme | why try to convince everyone ... theres a strong correlation between smart individuals who are agnostics and have $$$ | 19:14 |
| delinquentme | klafka, related yea | 19:14 |
| delinquentme | klafka, du know any math kids in bio tech? | 19:14 |
| delinquentme | im curious as to what projects they work on | 19:15 |
| klafka | umm not really personally | 19:15 |
| klafka | there are lots of math people in biotech | 19:15 |
| klafka | eric schadt | 19:15 |
| klafka | is a good example | 19:15 |
| delinquentme | hes a math dude? | 19:15 |
| delinquentme | i thought he was bio | 19:15 |
| klafka | has a phd in applied math | 19:15 |
| delinquentme | oh fewk | 19:15 |
| delinquentme | hes given me the short stick FB profile as a friend | 19:16 |
| delinquentme | doesnt say shit | 19:16 |
| klafka | ? | 19:20 |
| klafka | who? | 19:20 |
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| delinquentme | schadt | 19:23 |
| delinquentme | we're homies | 19:23 |
| delinquentme | in VR | 19:23 |
| klafka | LOL | 19:26 |
| delinquentme | klafka, dont laugh @ me bro | 19:26 |
| delinquentme | we chest bump | 19:26 |
| delinquentme | lol | 19:26 |
| klafka | He received his B.A. in applied mathematics and computer science from California Polytechnic State University, his M.A. in pure mathematics and his Ph.D. in bio-mathematics from University of California, Los Angeles. | 19:26 |
| klafka | http://www.mssm.edu/profiles/eric-schadt | 19:27 |
| klafka | damn | 19:27 |
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| delinquentme | so hes knows some shit | 19:37 |
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| kanzure | delinquentme: some people just don't do facebook daily | 19:58 |
| kanzure | (like me) | 19:59 |
| kanzure | klafka: i was trying to list for deliquentme all the various versions of blast | 19:59 |
| kanzure | pblast, blastn, blastp, blastx, tblastn, tblastx, blast2, psi-blast, wublast, gpublast | 19:59 |
| delinquentme | i need to develop an effective FB pickup strat | 20:00 |
| delinquentme | man. | 20:00 |
| delinquentme | so much talent | 20:01 |
| kanzure | fb pickup strategy: attack their freinds first | 20:02 |
| kanzure | or really, their sibling's friends | 20:02 |
| kanzure | then show up at a family event one day | 20:02 |
| kanzure | *friends | 20:02 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: i made this facebook friend-of-a-friend-of-a-friend script | 20:03 |
| kanzure | it would take all of my friends; document their friends; then go out and find all of their friends | 20:03 |
| kanzure | then, for a given target, i would figure out who among my friends is currently friends with my target's friends | 20:03 |
| delinquentme | facebook API | 20:04 |
| delinquentme | ? | 20:04 |
| delinquentme | lolol | 20:04 |
| delinquentme | filling out these answers | 20:04 |
| kanzure | this was back when the facebook api was not usable | 20:04 |
| kanzure | so it was scraping | 20:04 |
| delinquentme | i feel fucking SMERT | 20:04 |
| klafka | aah | 20:07 |
| delinquentme | its usable now? | 20:10 |
| delinquentme | heard its a nighmare | 20:10 |
| klafka | did you include parallel blast in that | 20:12 |
| klafka | kanzure | 20:12 |
| kanzure | hrm | 20:15 |
| kanzure | i think not | 20:15 |
| sylph_mako | so kanzure, did you do anything devious with that friend of a friend thing? And do you know if there's still a version of that? Cause I've considered making that myself. | 20:29 |
| sylph_mako | Not seriously enough to look for existing ones. | 20:29 |
| delinquentme | "when you're working w statistically significant sample sizes there is a positive correlation between the sample size and the indicative strength of the resultant probability." | 20:31 |
| delinquentme | god im such a jerkoff | 20:31 |
| kanzure | didn't do anything devious, just lots of "hey dude i went to elementary school with this person that this person you know knows" | 20:31 |
| delinquentme | vocabular masturbation | 20:31 |
| delinquentme | PREDICTIVE not indicative | 20:33 |
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| sylph_mako | 2 degrees of separation is further than I thought. | 21:04 |
| sylph_mako | Wait no I had very clear intentions with that. Use it to get into their friends of friends. Not that that would ever be useful. I wonder why I thought it would be useful. | 21:05 |
| kanzure | it is useful; it's just, there's usually easier ways to make friends | 21:06 |
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