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| kanzure | boop | 08:02 |
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| ThomasEgi | kazong | 08:05 |
| kanzure | vrs: hi | 08:06 |
| strangewarp | blog posts about "robot ethics" are tiresome | 08:10 |
| strangewarp | you can get some comedy, or accidental insight, if you mentally replace every instance of the word "robot" with "human", though | 08:10 |
| strangewarp | like so: | 08:11 |
| strangewarp | If a human malfunctions and harms someone, who is responsible — the human's owner, its manufacturer, or the human itself? Under what circumstances can humans be put in positions of authority, with human beings required to obey them? Is it ethically wrong for humans to prey upon our emotional sensitivities — should they be required to remind us, explicitly or implicitly, that they are only machines? | 08:11 |
| strangewarp | How safe do humans need to be before they’re deployed in society at large? Should cyborgs — human beings with human parts — have a special legal status if their parts malfunction and hurt someone? If a police human uses its sensors to perform a surveillance operation, does that constitute a search? (And can the human decide if there is probable cause?) | 08:11 |
| kanzure | "Should cyborgs — human beings with human parts" hehe | 08:13 |
| chris_99 | anyone done any experiments with plants and r,g,b leds | 08:21 |
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| vrs | strangewarp: is that from thatdrone ethics post? | 08:28 |
| strangewarp | it was something on Ethical Technology, I think a short exerpt from a book called Robot Ethics | 08:29 |
| delinquentme | EUREKA! | 08:30 |
| delinquentme | jus realized | 08:30 |
| delinquentme | i could probably run two heroku instances ... one cRoR and one JRuby | 08:31 |
| delinquentme | and NOT need ec2 | 08:31 |
| delinquentme | dis sounds possibu | 08:31 |
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| chris_99 | ec2 is really expensive for me | 08:38 |
| chris_99 | i use linode instead mainly | 08:38 |
| kanzure | i (ab)use jrayhawk | 08:39 |
| chris_99 | jrayhawk? | 08:40 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: hi! | 08:40 |
| chris_99 | ah heh | 08:41 |
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| audy | human beings with human parts | 08:48 |
| audy | delinquentme: watchya makin? | 08:48 |
| delinquentme | audy, this chem parser : | 08:49 |
| delinquentme | :D | 08:49 |
| delinquentme | sooo close | 08:49 |
| delinquentme | When making API calls ... specifically in sinatra .. I've seen the instances where args are simply placed in the URL ... what happens when they're packaged up with something like curl? I'm guessing those args go into the header? | 08:49 |
| audy | delinquentme: get or post? | 08:50 |
| * delinquentme isnt flooding multiple channels or anything | 08:50 | |
| delinquentme | posts | 08:50 |
| audy | delinquentme: they're in the header. available to the controller as params | 08:50 |
| audy | delinquentme: in get, they're in the URL like this /uri/to/thing?keys=values&more_keys=more_values | 08:50 |
| audy | or you can make it part of the URI but then you can't use forms | 08:50 |
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| delinquentme | ok so the header is actually packed into the uri | 08:53 |
| kanzure | what? | 08:59 |
| kanzure | it's against the http spec but you could theoretically include a POST-like payload with GET | 08:59 |
| delinquentme | so I'd like to setup a jRuby heroku instance to *ONLY* parse java libs | 09:00 |
| audy | yeah that works. | 09:00 |
| delinquentme | when i post a formula | 09:00 |
| delinquentme | i want that shit to come right back | 09:01 |
| delinquentme | (the parsed version) | 09:01 |
| delinquentme | i want to do that w/o storing it to a DB on the parsing server | 09:01 |
| kanzure | are you asking a question | 09:03 |
| delinquentme | yeah can a POST return something | 09:06 |
| kanzure | yes.. | 09:06 |
| delinquentme | ok cool i think thats all I need | 09:06 |
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| kanzure | 'antibiotics' is such a horrible name :( | 11:34 |
| kanzure | project gutenberg seems to have problems keeping track of compilable assets http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3638917 | 11:36 |
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| delinquentme | http://blooming-night-9861.herokuapp.com/parse | 11:48 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, i feel like im missing something here | 11:48 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: does it run locally? | 11:49 |
| kanzure | without heroku | 11:49 |
| delinquentme | well a version of it does | 11:49 |
| delinquentme | I havn't tried to setup it up w a server though | 11:50 |
| delinquentme | trinidad is what i think ill run it w | 11:50 |
| kanzure | ok. how did you fix the import error on your local instance ? | 11:50 |
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| delinquentme | was just talking to recruiters | 12:13 |
| delinquentme | ok umm so there wasn't an error | 12:13 |
| kanzure | how are you loading the classfile when you run it locally? | 12:13 |
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| delinquentme | GOT IT! | 12:28 |
| delinquentme | well the local server at least jruby -S trinidad --config /etc/default/trinidad/config.yml | 12:28 |
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| kanzure | hi Reid_Berryman | 12:34 |
| kanzure | how did the pitch go | 12:34 |
| delinquentme | love me some simple soln | 12:43 |
| delinquentme | we've got pitchers?? | 12:43 |
| delinquentme | Reid_Berryman, hablamos! | 12:43 |
| delinquentme | let the rythm take you over... | 12:43 |
| * delinquentme ceases | 12:43 | |
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| uniqanomaly_ | http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/1083/electroo.jpg :> | 13:02 |
| uniqanomaly_ | how bad are those? | 13:03 |
| uniqanomaly_ | tDCS electrodes x) | 13:03 |
| uniqanomaly_ | these* | 13:07 |
| kanzure | $4k tiny arm http://robai.com | 13:11 |
| ThomasEgi | 4k for a bunch of servos with 3mm accuracy? | 13:18 |
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| kanzure | ThomasEgi: yeah i'm not sure what they are thinking | 13:22 |
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| delinquentme | FOUND ERROR | 13:29 |
| delinquentme | so I've got this file which looks like shell scripts with classpath vars in it ... | 13:29 |
| delinquentme | http://pastie.org/3475141 | 13:29 |
| delinquentme | is that shell scripts? | 13:30 |
| kanzure | yes | 13:30 |
| kanzure | the first line tells you this :x | 13:30 |
| delinquentme | hA | 13:30 |
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| delinquentme | CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:/path/to/other/jars:/path/to/other/classes | 13:31 |
| delinquentme | this resets it though ... i need to append | 13:31 |
| kanzure | CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH does not reset it.. | 13:32 |
| delinquentme | OHHHH | 13:33 |
| delinquentme | what are "shell scripts" | 13:47 |
| delinquentme | like googling doesnt get quite the "language-centric" results I'm expecting | 13:47 |
| kanzure | um. | 13:57 |
| kanzure | alright | 13:57 |
| kanzure | well, shell scripts are just your normal bash scripts.. | 13:58 |
| kanzure | your default system shell is probably bash | 13:58 |
| kanzure | so when you are cd'ing around on your computer, you are using the bash language | 13:58 |
| kanzure | a shell script is just like any other script | 13:59 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure, shell scripting would be the same language in linux and unix .. not windows though right? | 15:06 |
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| kanzure | delinquentme: well, you can install bash on windows if you want | 15:13 |
| kanzure | lots of people do this with e.g. cygwin | 15:13 |
| delinquentme | ahh ok | 15:13 |
| kanzure | pro tip: stop using windows | 15:16 |
| delinquentme | lololol | 15:25 |
| delinquentme | im not | 15:25 |
| delinquentme | im just trying to figure out how to make this shit work:D | 15:25 |
| delinquentme | im on ubuerntu | 15:26 |
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| delinquentme | <( '.' )> | 16:22 |
| delinquentme | check it! | 16:22 |
| delinquentme | http://blooming-night-9861.herokuapp.com/parse | 16:23 |
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| delinquentme | <3 | 17:29 |
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| delinquentme | OK application is deployed | 18:31 |
| delinquentme | and is hanging out | 18:31 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, you around? | 18:31 |
| kanzure | no | 18:35 |
| kanzure | what's up | 18:35 |
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| kanzure | welcome Etherael | 18:38 |
| Etherael | Hi there. | 18:39 |
| eudoxia | PLU | 18:43 |
| kanzure | hi eudoxia | 18:43 |
| eudoxia | oh nevermind that | 18:43 |
| eudoxia | wrong window lol | 18:43 |
| kanzure | we'll keep your password safe | 18:43 |
| eudoxia | haha | 18:43 |
| eudoxia | I was trying to type "plu" on Chromium so it would autocomplete to "plus.google.com", but my mouse moved and switched focus to this window | 18:43 |
| eudoxia | could have been worse | 18:44 |
| kanzure | chromium's autocomplete isn't very cool. i wish it was more like firefox's autocomplete. | 18:44 |
| eudoxia | I'm satisfied with it, haven't used Firefox in years | 18:44 |
| eudoxia | also hi Etherael | 18:44 |
| Etherael | hi eudoxia | 18:45 |
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| delinquentme | am I nuts thinking that processing can be throttled? | 19:17 |
| kanzure | heroku definitely sets some limits | 19:17 |
| kanzure | they want you to pay for more power | 19:18 |
| delinquentme | oh for sure | 19:18 |
| delinquentme | but like im SOOOO close | 19:18 |
| kanzure | since they sit on top of ec2 it's cheaper to just pay ec2 instead | 19:18 |
| delinquentme | the parser runs :D | 19:18 |
| delinquentme | might have to do that | 19:18 |
| kanzure | you should use delayed_job | 19:18 |
| delinquentme | O_o | 19:18 |
| delinquentme | java command? | 19:18 |
| kanzure | no. look it up.. | 19:19 |
| delinquentme | kk | 19:19 |
| delinquentme | github? | 19:19 |
| kanzure | no it's not github | 19:20 |
| kanzure | it's a gem | 19:20 |
| delinquentme | lol | 19:22 |
| delinquentme | i mean yeah its on github | 19:22 |
| delinquentme | reading | 19:22 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, but this seems to be something which reorders tasks | 19:23 |
| delinquentme | I've got a single task which is breaking things | 19:23 |
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| kanzure | delinquentme: it doesn't reorder them | 19:34 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: it just puts it in another process for you | 19:34 |
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